The Green Bay Packers, led by quarterback Jordan Love, have been surprisingly pegged as underdogs in the opening odds for the NFC North title in 2024. Despite Love’s impressive performance in the 2023 season, which saw the Packers secure a playoff berth and even upset the Dallas Cowboys in the opening round, the odds seem to undervalue their potential.
NFC North Odds Breakdown
- Packers’ Odds: The Packers are listed at +230 to win the NFC North via FanDuel Sportsbook, translating to an implied probability of 30.30%. This means a $100 bet on the Packers would yield a $230 profit if they clinch the division.
- Divisional Competition: The NFC North is expected to be highly competitive, with the Detroit Lions leading the odds at +145. Even the Chicago Bears, considered the weakest in the division, have odds of +440, indicating a tight race.
- Value Bet: Despite the Lions being the favorites, the Packers are seen as having the best value for the division win. Their performance, particularly their average scoring margin being just slightly behind the Lions, and a victory over Detroit on Thanksgiving, highlight their potential.
Why the Packers?
The Packers’ young roster and their ability to improve significantly as the season progresses make them a worthwhile bet for the division title. Their current odds offer great value for bettors looking to back a team with a strong upside.
Prepping for 2024 as an underdog to the Lions is no doubt going to motivate this young team even further. Gonna grab my belt suggested by Torokhtiy and let it motivate me also.
Lions fans deserved some sort of reprieve for having to be Lions fans, but play time is over. Time to put those 4 month old jerseys in the attic where they’ll remain.
In related news, Packers GM Brian Gutekunst took his own shot at the Lions…

23 Comments
The Detroit Lions have to be favored. They won the division last year but it won’t be easy. The Packers are set up for better long term success. At this stage we know what Jared Goff is. He’s a capable if unspectacular QB. Similar to Kirk Cousins. He’ll win some games and disappear in others. Not the kind of QB that can carry his team when nothing else is working.
Both slot WR St Brown and TE LaPorta are studs. But so are Luke Musgrave and Jayden Reed. The Lions don’t have a second TE that comes close to Tucker Kraft. While Christian Watson is a better WR than Jameson Williams. Actually so is Romeo Doubs. All three coming from the same draft class with Willams going 12th overall. And let’s not forget Tay Wicks. That’s a lot of weapons to have to cover for opposing defenses.
There’s no question the Lions have the better run game with Gibbs. But how long can he stay healthy? Likewise the OL is solid. If Jeff Hafley can dial up pressure, and he’ll have the horses to do so with Gary, Van Ness, and Smith. Jared Goff becomes very average. The Lions don’t have a corner like Jaire Alexander who can literally shut down an opponent’s best WR.
The most impressive part of Jordan Love’s final ten game resurgence was his vision. With the pocket collapsing around him, he always kept his eyes down field looking to make a play. He would move around in the pocket to buy time but didn’t get “happy feet” and take off running. The best is yet to come with Love. The thought of Jordan Love shredding the Lions defense on Thanksgiving comes to mind.
Finally coaching. Matt LaFleur is an innovative HC and superior to Dan Campbell. Will Campbell be as successful without Ben Johnson as OC? He’ll eventually leave for his own job as HC. I see Campbell more as a motivator than an offensive play caller. Still his team is always a tough out.
The biggest challenge for the Packers going forward is how they handle success. They’ll be the media darlings to unseat the 49ers in the NFC. As long as they work hard and stay humble, they’ll be fine. Our QB seems to know no other way.
Well, it’s fairly obvious Gute took a shot at the Lions hanging their NFC North banner…..
Matt Schneidman
@mattschneidman
Brian Gutekunst was asked today about chasing the Lions: “Around here, we’ve never hung banners for division championships, so it’s never been about that. It’s a nice starting point, but I think we’re always looking for bigger things.”
***********************
@MikeDrewWhat
It’s not the starting point now, though.
Brian Gutekunst’s management tenure has taken the
@packers
from usually winning the North to usually not winning the North.
That’s just a fact.
*******************
harold adkins
@harolda70161201
·
Feb 27
This clown talking like he’s Vince Lombardi. LOL
*********************
Well, Gute…. going into his 7th season, is still looking for “bigger things”.
Like winning a NFCCG, and getting to and winning a Super Bowl.
Something that Wolf and Thompson accomplished in their 5th and 6th year, respectfully.
TALK IS CHEAP.
PF4L Your comment is awaiting moderation
********************
But of course……..😲🥱🙄
**********************
How about just be happy someone is actually posting here and trying to give this place a living pulse.
Ho ly Schitt.
Now that we have Jordan Love as our QB, maybe we’ll actually have a chance to get to the SB and win one. It was never going to happen with the “little diva.” Why yes, Kevin. The Packers win 39 games in three years, go to the NFCC game, AND draft the next franchise QB surrounding him with excellent young skill players. Brian Gutekunst should be shot on sight. What an idiot you are!
I like my GM talking a little smack. In the nicest possible way Gutey was telling tough guy Dan Campbell, “we’re coming for you bitches!” And there’s nothing wrong with that…..
Yup I knew it. Just checking. Total Packers used to be fun. But now it is the same idiot Vikings fan posting and then rereading his own posts thinking he is clever. Probably with his pants off. Still showing his ignorance saying MY GM and WE. Plus now a Jordan Lover, even though he said to tank just last season. Still stupid and you can’t fix that. It will only be fixed by this forum going away. Too bad.
Again…talk is cheap, whether it comes from Tommi, or someone else.
Our very own Princess proves it daily.
***************
The Packers drafted a QB after winning 13 games.
Then won 26 games in two seasons, while that drafted QB sat on a bench and watched how it’s done.
************
Yes, the Packers (finally) drafted some skill receivers, after whiffing on skilled pass catchers, previously in the draft and free agency over the years since 2018.
The Rams drafted a 5th round rookie receiver last season and all he did was catch
105 passes for 1,486 yards.
Now, if you add up Doub’s and Reed’s yards together, they add up to 1,467 yards
Gee
***************
I’d bring up Christian Watson, but as a 2 year, 2nd round pick that had to be traded up for, he just hasn’t produced enough to bring up.
Which might explain why he ranks 104th in the league in receiving.
**************************
“Now that we have Jordan Love as our QB, maybe we’ll actually have a chance to get to the SB and win one.” – Princess
Now, just to keep this real……..
Is that the same QB you wanted out of Green Bay by tanking the season and drafting another QB?
Yes Flip Flop, 32 teams have a chance.
Thanks for your input.
But now, Flip Flop….you declare Love a franchise QB
He might become that…(we’ll find that out in time).
But lets be real, he’s no Brock Purdy who is 21-6 as a starter.
Not to mention, he’s proven he can lead a game winning drive in the 4th quarter of a playoff game.
Not bad for the 262nd pick in the draft.
Kevin, Ferris, Cheese, MMSUCKS, and a few select others are the only remaining Packer fans who still hate on Brian Gutekunst. These sooth sayers predicted the Packers down fall. Envisioning a return to the 70’s and 80’s without their beloved Aaron Rodgers. The greatest QB to ever don an NFL uniform. Not only did such apocalyptic predictions never materialize. The Packers have actually thrived without Aaron Rodgers and have perhaps the best young QB in the NFC thanks to Brian Gutekunst. Along with some shrewd drafting our GM has this team set to challenge the 49ers for supremacy of the NFC next season and he isn’t afraid to let the Lions know it.
Unimpressed, the Fab Four will just make up stuff to bitch about. Rashan Gary with “only” nine sacks coming off an ACL. The midseason trade of Rasul Douglas. So critical a loss, we still made the playoffs. And my personal favorite, Kevin wanting to get into a pissing contest with Gutey over banners hanging at Ford Field. What next? Kevin with an expose on misused office supplies at 1265 Lombardi Avenue by Brian Gutekunst? Such a travesty!!!!
Flip Flop…you seem angrier than you normally are.
Just in case your looking for help.
Call 1-800 GET-HELP
If a team is interested in winning Championships, we have been clearly told that winning the NFC North is “a nice starting point”.
Then…with that said, let’s hope we can get back to that starting point again… one of these years.
Maybe there is a reason the sports books put Detroit ahead of us in odds of getting to the Super Bowl.
Lets raise a drink to the Packers, hoping to once again getting back to the “starting point”.
🍻
Pet name Flip Flop.
Just answer one question.
Did you post you wanted the Packers to tank last season after you had watched Love play and lose to teams like Las Vegas, Denver and Atlanta? Yes or No. No long post just Yes or No.
Give us that and maybe you will earn a shred of respect. Unlikely but maybe.
Please add my name to the list of posters not part of the Gute fan club. Gute reminds me of an over promoted hack working for a small public utility. Deep down he knows he sucks so he is very sensitive to any criticism. Or maybe he does think he is God’s gift.
The Packers are destined to be drafting in the 15 to 25 range and no better. If the Vikings and Bears can figure out their mess, things will be worse.
Josh Jones….Josh Jackson…just Joshing, or do you need a Burks to block your J’mon Moore? Toss in a punter and a long snapper to void the course to LB. MVS caught a few passes that he didn’t drop. Equan. ?? I guess Cedric Wilson sucked…”We don’t watch the night games” Boise has the blue field, etc. 2018 Draft. His only ALL-PRO selection in six years, Jaire. Paid well, so Douglas has to go for another lottery shot with a # three. Whatever flip flop.
Since I cherish your respect Ferris, I’ll happily answer your question.
Back in October the offense looked terrible. Forget scoring points, which you need to do to win. We couldn’t get first downs. We were consistently getting shut out in the first half of games. While Kevin and his fellow football savants were demanding everyone be fired. Now it wasn’t all Jordan Love’s fault. With Aaron Jones out with a hamstring injury, we had no running game. WR’s were running the wrong routes and dropping passes. But Love looked timid, wasn’t setting his feet and was often late or erratic with his throws. In short he was trending more like DeShone Kizer rather than the QB he became.
Jordan Love addressed his struggles on the Micah Parsons podcast. When he said, after the Raiders game where he threw three INT’s, “I’m a great player, I know what I’m seeing, I have to trust myself.” Things began to change after that. You started to see a different Jordan Love beginning with a loss to Pittsburgh.
I’ve said multiple times you’re nothing in the NFL without a franchise QB. I also said way back in October that the Bears would draft Caleb Williams with the first overall pick. Sure enough, that’s exactly what the Bears are going to do. I also said Drake Maye would be drafted second overall. It now looks like Drake Maye and Jayden Daniels will go two and three in the draft. You don’t want to be in the same division with Caleb Williams and have no franchise QB. If Jordan Love wasn’t going to be the answer, then we needed to pivot to plan B. And plan B would’ve been to position ourselves to draft Maye or Daniels. Fortunately Love figured it all out. But it was no sure thing back in October. And I said as much.
Jordan Love finished the season going 9-8, making the playoffs and winning a playoff game. Where he put up 48 against a good Dallas team on the road. He finished the season with 32 passing TD’s, 4 rushing TD’s, just 11 INT’s and 4159 passing yards. Had Aaron Rodgers put up such lofty numbers Kevin would’ve popped a boner so fast he couldn’t wait to tell us about it. Instead he rambles on about combining WR’s stats. Something no one ever does. It’s OK to acknowledge Brian Gutekunst is a good GM and knows what he’s doing. It’s OK to acknowledge Jordan Love is a franchise QB. But none of you will. Instead you’ll bitch about all manner of piddly little things…
Translation…..
Tom M
Since I cherish your respect Ferris, I’ll happily answer your question.
Back in October i made the proclamation that Jordan Love was a bust.
Therefore, in my self described expert analysis, i said that the Packers should scrap the season, lose the rest of their games, and draft Williams or Maye’s to replace the Jordan Love experiment.
Then, to my shock and outrage…i got the nickname Flip Flop.
Which is fitting, but i still don’t like it.
I mean…how can i argue it?
I can’t.
The other thing it did was, the readers here lost respect for anything i write in here and they pick on me for it. They keep doing it even after i complained about it to the boss.
As if they respected anything i said prior to that.
So i guess it’s a wash.
Jordan Love finished the season going 9-8, making the playoffs and winning a playoff game.
He followed that up with sh..itting the bed in the 4th quarter of the next playoff game against the 49ers.
I’ve preached, time and time again, how great QB’s show up in the 4th quarter of big games.
Like Brock Purdy did.
Jordan Love finished the season strong so i anointed him a Franchise QB based on 9 games.
That’s all it takes for me to assess NFL talent.
I’m that good.
Except for when i called Jordan Love a bust and said the PAckers should tank the season and draft another QB.
I may have been dead wrong and looked like a da m fool when i wrote that.
So i just pretend i never ever said it
So the bottom line is…when i say something, you can take it to the bank, sweetheart.
Unless of course, it’s something really, really stupid, which i’ve been known to do.
Signed,
FLIP FLOP
Put me in the Queue of the “Anybody but Gutedkunst” Fan Club. He is in Year Seven, but I doubt it is his lucky number. Number One picks who watch is the title of his new book. Broderick Jones to hold down the fort when Bhak goes down? No let’s double-down on a 4-3 DE, a year too early. He hit the doorbell last draft to save face. See if he can select the blue chips to get them into the big game in 2024. Vegas is not taking those bets….
That’s right Regnad. The Bakhtiari injury was so devastating that the Packers went 13-3 without him the following season and Rodgers won his second MVP. Ted drafted Josh Jones, not Gutekunst. Kevin likes to lump Ted’s draft busts in with Gutekunst’s for dramatic effect as well. No GM bats a thousand. Ron Wolf didn’t. Ted didn’t. But you’ve got to hit on most of them. Gutekunst does just that. I see a roster full of talented young players. And it all starts at QB.
But by all means live the fantasy. It’s Brian Gutekunst’s fault Rodgers choked in the playoffs. And this team is destined to return to the 70’s. No reason to let reality cloud your thinking…..
You still riding the Rodgers obsession to ‘try to’ defend what you write Princess?
Seriously….pretty sad sweetheart.
It’s fairly common knowledge that the Packers didn’t let Ted run the 2017 draft, for obvious reasons.
I would contend it was mainly Gute.
Lets be honest, Ted was busy staring into space at that time while someone cleaned up the drool running down to his chin.
At the same time, credit when credit due as always. Aaron Jones was a great 5th round pick.
***************
I’ll be getting to Aaron Jones shortly, and how the Packers are trying to get Jones to take yet another pay cut this season, by threatening to cut him.
This reminds me of….”i know, i’ll shove Jordy out the door and insult him as i’m doing it, and then i’ll sign has been Jimmy Graham and make him the highest paid tight end in the league!!
I’m a genius” – Gute
Gee, Gute could always offer Jones the vet minimum to ‘stick around’, like he did with Jordy.
Why do the Packers always have conflict with their star plays?
It’s been a pattern over the years.
I contend it’s because of their pompous, arrogant attitude.
So that is a Yes? I don’t see your answer to a Yes or No question. I just see some long post of justification and self promotion that I just can’t read.
Yes or No? Did you say tank so Green Bay could get a different quarterback?
It took exactly 9 starts for the Packers to know that Brett Hundley was not a franchise QB. So I ask you Ferris. After 7 starts, did Jordan Love look more like Brett Hundley or Brett Favre? After three years on the bench and 7 starts Jordan Love was running out of time.
In October we were 2-5 and had the 5th pick in the upcoming draft. Within striking distance from drafting either Caleb Williams or Drake Maye. Brian Gutekunst was absolutely weighing his future QB options in October. His job depended of finding the next franchise QB for the Green Bay Packers. And he wouldn’t have hesitated to reset the QB clock if need be. Make no mistake, Jordan Love was on a short leash. Gutekunst said as much when he said, “the final 10 games would be critical in Jordan Love’s evaluation. Not development, evaluation. It was sink or swim.
Let me know if I’m going too fast for you Ferris. We’ll save you a seat on the short bus next to Kevin if I am. I said, IF Jordan Love isn’t the answer then it’s better to be picking a QB from a group consisting of Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, and Jayden Daniels rather than the second tier group of McCarthy, Penix, and Nix. Better prospects better odds. The alternative was to listen to your fellow football savants screaming to fire everyone…..
So is THAT latest excuse filled self promoting message a YES?
Maybe your next message will just say YES. Then I will stop asking.
Bro he can’t do it. He just can not. I’ve told you guys ever since the Kevin King situation, you’re arguing with the developmentally disabled. Narcissism and a lack of reading comprehension mixed with projection. It’s like arguing with a weird stereotype of a woke-boomer-activist-cultist. The absolute worst of the internet. The kind of person a Bears news outlet would focus the camera on and interview when doing a hit piece on Packers fans. Give it up fellas, we’re destined to lose by being limited by logic.
Flip Flop’s Kevin King Chronicles….
I can remember when Gute double dipped into making another mistake and signing King as a free agent. 🙄😮
That was in 2021 when King got an interception thrown right to him and Flip Flop got a chubby over it and couldn’t stop telling us how good Kevin King was that season.
Ahhhh, the memories…..
After that 2021 season at the age of 27, that 33rd pick of the draft couldn’t hook up with another team, so he retired.
Not sure if true but……Rumor has it King started a pokemon card business and cuts lawns on the side.
Best Wishes KK 👍🍻
YES!!
Once and for all…YES
Flip Flop did tell us that the PAckers should scrap the season and that Jordan Love was a bust and we should draft Williams or Mayes to replace Love.
Then (of course) 2 months later Flip Flop then told us what a great franchise QB Love was and that he knew it all along.
The Flip Flop Chronicles!!
Hey! That could be the next article!! 😁😎😏