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Is Quay Walker a Coach Killer?

Paul EdwardsBy Paul EdwardsDecember 20, 2023Updated:December 20, 20239 Comments8 Mins Read
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Matt LaFleur with Quay Walker
Sep 10, 2023; Chicago, Illinois, USA; Green Bay Packers head coach Matt LaFleur celebrates with linebacker Quay Walker (7) after he intercepted the ball and ran it back for a touchdown against the Chicago Bears in the fourth quarter at Soldier Field. Mandatory Credit: Dan Powers-USA TODAY Sports
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Week 15 of the 2023 season is staring the Green Bay Packers in the face and their defensive ranking is in the bottom third of the league. Their run defense is even worse. Only the Broncos and Cardinals have given up more rushing yards than the Packers.

In an article this week [paywall] in, “The Milwaukee Journal”, co-authored by Pete Dougherty and former player and analyst Eric Baranczyk, the focus is on coach Joe Barry’s failure to get solid production out of his talent. The article focuses on the use of linebackers Quay Walker and De’Vondre Campbell. The authors correctly acknowledge that Campbell is slowing down, not making plays he used to make.

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Sep 10, 2023; Chicago, Illinois, USA; Green Bay Packers head coach Matt LaFleur celebrates with linebacker Quay Walker (7) after he intercepted the ball and ran it back for a touchdown against the Chicago Bears in the fourth quarter at Soldier Field. Mandatory Credit: Dan Powers-USA TODAY Sports

Quay Walker as a Liability

In an interesting admission, the authors acknowledge that Walker is a liability on runs between the tackles. Walker was the appointed savior draft pick for the run defense in 2022.

He was the first inside linebacker taken in that draft. In 2021 the Packers defense ranked in the top 15 overall but was next to last in rushing yards allowed per attempt, giving up 4.7 yards per carry according to Pro Football Reference. In 2022, Walker started, and struggled from the opening snap.

The defense gave up 520 additional rushing yards on the season in 2022 compared to 2021 and averaged a whopping 5.0 yards per run. While there were other problems with the defense last year, it was clear Walker was not making a significant impact.

His one knock in college, his ability to quickly diagnose and attack, haunts him to this day. Walker is a big athlete with elite size and speed for his position, but on too many plays he sits in place watching the play develop and by the time he begins to move an opposing offensive lineman has him walled off.

There are also plays where Walker seems satisfied to be blocked, by lineman or tight ends, giving little resistance. So far in 2023 the Packers are giving up 4.6 yards a carry, that lands them in the top three for rushing yards allowed.

Dougherty and Baranczyk go further to ding Barry for using De’Vondre Campbell instead of Walker as a pass defender. On many plays against Tampa Bay, Barry used Campbell as the primary linebacker in coverage, making Walker the primary run defender. Campbell was burned repeatedly in coverage and their suggestion was that Barry failed by not switching the younger healthier Walker with Campbell in coverage.

But they fail to mention the first explosive pass play where Walker had coverage. On the Buccaneers third play from scrimmage, Walker was assigned to cover running back Rachaad White out of the backfield. Walker could not stay with White, giving up a catch and run of 24 yards that resulted in the winning game strategy for Tampa Bay; throw to the receiver being covered by either Packer linebacker.

Walker had another chance to show his coverage skills but again, failed. In the 4th quarter, the Packers had allowed Tampa Bay into the red zone once again. The Buccaneers sent Ko Kieft, a 265-pound backup tight end, into the flat. Kieft ran the 40-yard dash in 4.98 seconds in his pro day workout.

2023 Packers defense against the Chicago Bears in Week 1
Sep 10, 2023; Chicago, Illinois, USA; Chicago Bears running back Roschon Johnson (23) runs for a gain against Green Bay Packers linebacker Quay Walker (7) and linebacker Preston Smith (91) at Soldier Field. Dan Powers-USA TODAY Sports

Walker was drafted in the first round in part because of his impressive 4.52 forty. On Sunday, Walker, with all that impressive speed, was slow to diagnose the play, came over late, and although he hit Kieft on the one-yard line, could not keep him out of the end zone.

Dougherty and Baranczyk note on another play that Walker seemed to commit an error by not shifting over, even though Campbell was emphatically waving to him to shift. In his Monday press conference Coach LaFleur emphasized the breakdowns in the defense, focusing his critique on players not communicating and misalignments that were fundamental basic breakdowns. LaFleur was quoted as saying,

“Basic install, like Day 1 install and we have self-inflicted communication errors and guys quite frankly not in the right spot,”

Walker had one of the lowest reported Wonderlic scores in the draft, a score of 9. Devin Lloyd, the next inside linebacker off the board in the 2022 draft scored a 20. Lloyd’s Jaguars defense has problems of their own but a 4.2 yard per run average and nearly 900 fewer total rushing yards sounds like it would be welcome in Green Bay.

Joe Barry’s Future

Joe Barry could call the greatest game in the history of the NFL, but if you have players who can’t diagnose a play unfolding in front of them, they will fail. Coaches must teach players their defensive strategy in a way that is easy to understand and communicate both at practice and during a game.

Clearly, Barry’s defensive coaches failed to do that on Sunday. But if Barry deserves all the blame for the Tampa Bay loss, then he deserves credit for holding a defensive unit together while most of their starting secondary was sitting on the sidelines against the Chiefs, Lions and Chargers.

It is no coincidence that the defense’s best day was the second game against Detroit where Isaiah McDuffie had 11 tackles starting for Campbell. If Barry was able to slow quarterbacks like Mahoney, Goff, and Herbert, can we really pin all the blame on him for these last two losses?

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Green Bay Packers defensive coordinator Joe Barry is shown during the fourth quarter of their game Monday, September 20, 2021 at Lambeau Field in Green Bay, Wis. The Green Bay Packers beat the Detroit Lions 35-17. Packers21 22

Two frustrations obvious to most fans is Barry’s failure to change or mix schemes. Against New York, their rookie quarterback was escaping the four-man rush.

A spy or mixed blitz package never appeared on the field. Corey Ballentine has proven to be a solid tackler. He has never been sent on a blitz. Nor has Walker or Campbell.

If you are predictable in the NFL, you will get beat. The Packers have proven that two weeks in a row. The pass rushers led them to victory in three straight games. But teams have been scheming the Packers four man pass rush and have done enough to keep them from winning the last two games.

Throw in players coming back from injury, Campbell, Stokes, and Ford, and you add breakdowns. Perhaps the short week contributed, but players have to know their assignments.

Some players are drafted and make their coaches look good. Others play poorly and get coaches fired. Joe Barry’s defense gave up three straight touchdowns in the second half. Tampa had three scoring drives in the second half against Atlanta the week before, two touchdowns and a field goal.

They also had three scoring drives in the second half against Tennessee and four against Houston. Three against New Orleans. The Buc’s offensive coordinator is good at making second half adjustments. The problem for Packer fans is it didn’t look like Tampa Bay had to adjust at halftime.

More of the same. Don’t fix what’s not broke. The simplest of strategies courtesy of Joe Barry. So yes, there are legitimate gripes to be made about the defensive calls on Sunday.

But for a team that is playing with multiple starters out of their secondary, and multiple starters blowing basic assignments, don’t make the mistake in thinking that firing Barry is a solution. The Packers have been shuffling defensive coordinators searching for another Fritz Shurmur for decades.

But whoever runs the defense in 2024 still has the current roster to contend with. Campbell is probably in his last year. The secondary that had hoped to rely on injury riddled Eric Stokes, Jaire Alexander and Darnell Savage needs a complete overhaul. The Packers may have struck copper, if not silver or gold, in Owens, Ballentine and Valentine.

But a shutdown corner and a safety may be a draft day focus. The real question for 2024 will be Walker. Will the next coach see him as a savior, or a coach killer?

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Paul Edwards

Paul Edwards is a lawyer, victim advocate, writer, and long term Packer fan and Packer history enthusiast.

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9 Comments

  1. Tom M on December 20, 2023 8:29 am

    Balentine, Valentine, and Nixion start for no one in the NFL. Campbell hasn’t been the same player since he signed his contract and will be a cap casualty at the end of the season. As for Walker, if he can’t read and react that’s a problem. I get the whole fire Joe Barry thing. Just remember, you fire him, you have to find a replacement. The biggest fallacy Packer fans have is they think coaches would just love to work for the Packers. They would be wrong. One of the biggest complaints I hear about Mike McCarthy is he has a better coaching staff in Dallas than he ever did in GB. That’s because Dallas is far more appealing to coaching candidates than GB. Dan Quinn never would have been Big Mike’s DC in GB.

    After spending the last two drafts on offensive skill players like Watson, Doubs, Musgrave, Reed, Kraft, and Wicks. Hitting on all of them, Gutekunst will have 5 picks in the drafts top three rounds. You can find LB’s, CB’s and safeties easy enough. I’d much rather have this conversation than what are we going to do about QB.

  2. Arch Stanton on December 21, 2023 10:40 am

    Excellent article on FanSided by Austin Krueger. Read it. Does a great job of explaining the Packers current and past management situation leading to the problems you see now.

    • Cheese on December 23, 2023 7:50 pm

      Arch, while I want to say it is a good article, because it is, there is nothing new from what a few of us have been saying here for years.

  3. Tom M on December 22, 2023 11:38 am

    When we were 2-5, it was fire everyone. Then at 6-6, this is a playoff team. Now at 6-8 the organization is in shambles. That’s Packer hyperbole for you. Look, we always knew this was a transition year. Jordan Love continues to look like a franchise QB and we’re going to end up with 7 or 8 wins. I’ll take it. The rest they can fix in the offseason

    • Jason Parker on December 22, 2023 5:37 pm

      Well said

    • Cheese on December 23, 2023 7:38 pm

      Lol, ok there Flip Flop. Tell us more about how the Packers should tank the rest of the season for Caleb Williams.

      Tom M
      October 22, 2023
      But midterms are in and Love is failing. You can’t play football in the NFL like this. Time to start scouting college QB’s.

  4. Tom M on December 24, 2023 9:04 am

    Cheese, thanks for pointing out how right I was back in October. I also said if we don’t draft Caleb Williams the Bears will. And they are. Not even the Bears can screw this up. Jordan Love’s career was bordering on obscurity. Much like Brett Hundley and DeShone Kizer. While you and the girls were in the throws of emotional panic, wanting to fire everyone yet offering no real solution to the problem at hand. I offered a path in which to procure the next generational college QB.

    Then something amazing happened. In the face of adversity, with his career hanging in the balance. Jordan Love showed maturity beyond his years. He didn’t point fingers. Didn’t blame coaches, didn’t call out his teammates. He worked his way thru his problems. The sign of a young man with character. We can all be happy about that. He’s now done more in 14 starts than Zach Wilson, Justin Fields, Trey Lance, Mac Jones, have in the three years they’ve been in the league. While not prefect, his best football is still in front of him. But by all means, tell us the sky is falling….

    • packtat87 on December 24, 2023 2:03 pm

      What’s amazing is how you end this reply. I know I keep saying I won’t reply to you but then you do something so stupid I just can’t help myself. “Tell us the sky is falling” that is exactly what you were doing…in October…you daft coont.

      • Cheese on December 25, 2023 7:53 pm

        That is why he has earned the name Flip Flop
        .
        Isn’t it strange how he starts out by thanking me for “pointing out how he was right” for acting like the sky was falling, and then ends by pretending it was everyone else who was acting like the sky was falling.
        .
        “While you and the girls were in the throws of emotional panic, wanting to fire everyone yet offering no real solution to the problem at hand. I offered a path in which to procure the next generational college QB.”
        .
        Because saying that a team should tank the rest of the season and give up on a 1st round draft pick, who they have been developing for the past three years, half way through the season is somehow a “REAL SOLUTION?” Claiming that a team should tank the rest of the season isn’t acting like the sky is falling? Your “path” to procure the next “generational QB” would not only get any coach fired by a real NFL owner, it would also get them fined by the NFL for being so stupid. It’s no wonder this message board is a ghost town these days.

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