A game Green Bay never should have had a chance to win, and yet, Jordan Love was presented multiple opportunities to pull a win out of the hat. But alas, this Packer offense cannot get out of its own way. Down at halftime by only seven points.
The task seemed possible by the point margin but improbable due to the offense’s failings in the first half. It easily could have been another goose egg score for the first half after Anders Carlson clanked his field goal off the post. But, thanks to a Viking offside penalty, Carlson was given a reprieve, and he took advantage, making the halftime score 10-3.
Optimistic Packer fans thought they saw a glimmer of hope when the defense had the Vikings at 3rd and 9 on the opening series of the second half. But the zone defense blew a coverage and gave up a huge catch and run to Osborn. The Vikings then marched down the field for an easy touchdown. Love and the offense responded with a quick interception and one offensive pass play later, it was 24-3 Vikings.
The Green and Gold faithful kept watching and had a couple of plays to cheer about. But the overwhelming theme of the second half was wasted opportunities. The Packers scored to make it 24-10. Then special teams blocked a field goal.
The Packer offense… one good 17-yard pass to Christian Watson and then a third down pass conversion to Wicks. Then a first down 10-yard pass to Reed and the Packers and Love seem to be rolling. Love brings the Packers down to the Minnesota 10 on second and 5 and then Wicks drops a pass.
Then two more incompletions. Turnover on downs. Kirk Cousins injures his Achilles and is replaced by Rookie 5th round pick Jaren Hall who promptly fumbles after being hit by Preston Smith and the Packers recover. First down on the Minnesota 10. Four plays later the Packers turn it over on downs at the Viking 6. The Packers force another punt, but again the offense cannot produce points.
At some point fans must question the coaching of this Packer team.
The most polite word you can use for the 2023 Packers is undisciplined. Yes, the team is young, but the number of mental mistakes, blown assignments and coverages is inexcusable.
Coaches are tasked with getting a team ready to play. This team hasn’t been ready the last four weeks as the offensive statistics, mounting penalties, and four game losing streak demonstrate. If the offensive coordinator is drawing up the game plan it’s time for LaFleur to step in. If LaFleur is game planning, the Packers are in trouble.
This team is also lacking in leadership. Aaron Jones starts the game with a dropped pass and a fumble. Jaire Alexander got torched for a touchdown and Josh Meyers, Jon Runyan, and Elgton Jenkins can’t move anyone off the line of scrimmage in red zone run plays.
This team needs their quarterback and receivers to learn quickly, but their problems run much deeper. This was the easy part of the schedule Packer fans. Upcoming are the Los Angeles Rams followed by Pittsburgh, the Chargers and Detroit. Let’s hope some lessons pay dividends in points scored next week. Or winter is coming early in Northern Wisconsin.
We’re waiting patiently Flip Flop, when you’re done pouting….
Let it rip!!
Matter of fact….I’m a wee bit confused understanding ‘Gutes Plan’ that i kept hearing about from you.
Since i’m not the brightest candle in the room and you know everything, can you please tell us Ladies more about Gute’s plan that you always told us about.
Teach us, ole wise sage.
I wonder, if, in 5 years, we hear from a fired Gutekunst that Murphy was micromanaging the draft or putting pressure on Gutekunst to find the next Rodgers before he (both he and Rodgers) retires.
The Board of directors have meddled before. Murphy certainly set up the management structure to be able to do so.
At least the Pack locked Gary up on a 4 year $96 million contract. Money well spent. Not.
Correction, sounds like it’s a $107.5 million contract. Ouch.
I got into that a bit….down the hall.
Just one example of MANY….of people stating things in present day, that some of us have been saying for years.
Anonymous
October 30, 2023 at 06:26 am
I would like to give a big shout out to Mark Murphy and Brian Gutekunst. You two have assembled the worst combination of players and coaches in the league. The decisions you two have made the past 5 years have destroyed this team. What we see is not growing pains of a young team, it’s lack of talent and poor coaching.
On why the offense is struggling…..according to some fool down the hall….
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I like Petek’s viewpoint, there is some voice of reason in it.
A small percentage of wr’s have immediate impact, they might show flashes, but there aren’t many Justin Jeffersons out there.
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The difference with the Packers vs years past and now is…
In the past, they usually had a stable of veteran receivers. The rookies could come in and learn at their own pace and yes, the good ones always showed flashes. But they were allowed to develop.
See Jordy, JJ, Adams
Today, in Gute’s world, the Packers need rookie and 2nd year wr’s and tight ends, to become highly productive right away.
Because….they’ve given themselves no other choice.
If you think todays Packers adhere to draft and develop principles, you are sadly mistaken, or you just don’t understand the concept of D and D.
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So the question then is….why are the Packers in this position that the success of our offense is dependent on rookie draft picks and 2nd year hopefuls?
1) Failed previous draft picks at these positions
2) High value draft picks resourced to the defense for a long period of time. Our ONLY first round pick on offense the last 12 years was on the bench for 3 years, costing us 2 draft picks.
3) Failed (weak) free agent signings (Band aids)
See Watkins and Funchess.
4) Looking towards the future….there was no urgency until Adams was gone.
Obviously Gute was drafting for the future starting with Love, drafting Dillon, and all those defensive players.
He wanted a strong running game, strong defense, and his hand picked QB
5) Obvious neglect. This wasn’t by accident, i believe Gute knew what he was doing (or…not doing).
Did he let the wr and tight end talent deplete to spite Rodgers?
I’m not sure about that, but it makes sense.
Bottom line…….
An unproven pass catching offense, is no way to try to develop a 1st year starting QB.
Why do i say that?
Have you watched these games?
TVOR
I have to push back against you a bit. I don’t think it was “on purpose to spite Rodgers” because that obviously would, and has backfired on his handpicked QB. I think it was a change in strategy, he wanted to build a strong defense, and draft guys that can be plugged into an offensive system and flourish under the QB. That, obviously hasnt worked out. There was a period of time under Thompson, when we perennially had one of the most expensive WR rooms in the league. It was a huge deal when we had two $10M WRs (at the time toward the high end of market for WR, and would almost be like paying two WRs $20M today). I have been on the record saying Gute has done some great things with player acquisition via draft and FA. I think everything he has done was in an attempt to bring a championship to GB. Unfortunately, as I believe you have said, he tried to hedge between the end of the Rodgers era and the Love era, and passed up potentially putting the team in Rodgers final few years over the top and royally screwing over any chance that Love had at succeeding. Couple that with a couple of terrible drafts that set them back, bad luck with injuries to key players, not investing top 100 picks into the OL and WR, and we have what we have. I honestly just feel bad for Jordan Love right now, at least he is making some decent coin. Maybe he is Jimmy Garapolo, maybe he is Zach Wilson, but we will never know in this mess of an offense that is even worse than last year, even making an assumption Love is as good as Rodgers (not saying he is, chill). The OL is worse, the WR and TE aren’t as experienced and we are seeing even more mistakes from that group than we saw last year, and the running game which was sort of a crutch last year has been a flaming bag of dog poop
Kato…i mentioned the depleted talent to spite Rodgers saying….
“I’m not sure about that, but it makes sense.”
I don’t think were foolish enough to think there wasn’t animosity between Rodgers and Gute.
When emotions become involved, people do stupid things.
All that i said was that it was possible. because at a certain level, it made sense.
Yes, if Gute did that, it would backfire.
Where are we at today?
So the other contention (possibility) is that Gute isn’t very good at his job.
!) You have a HOF QB who succeeds with his arm
2) You are trying to groom a new starting QB for 3 years.
So you what?…..Ignore skill positions on offense, and concentrate most of your resources on defense?
Doesn’t sound all that smart, does it?
We can probably agree he gave up on the 2020 team when Love was traded up for.
We can also probably agree that he wanted a new look team..strong defense, running game, and maybe a game managing QB.
Which i’ve said the same in the past.
Now if you think Gute has done great things in the draft and free agency,
We’d be sitting at a bar all day disagreeing about that.
I don’t think anyone is calling the Love move…..3 years later.
Not that he didn’t hit on 2 1st round picks, Alexander and maybe Gary.
Or 2nd round pick Jenkins.
Dillion is just a guy, Meyers is just a guy, lets face it.
Wyatt and Musgrave (right now) are just guys.
Quay Walker is fast, he’ll make a play here and there (like Preston) but neither are “The guy”
Runyan was ok, but he’s kind of slipping.
While currently, Zach Tom is maybe the one constant you have on the line.
Yes, He got a good year from Campbell, Douglas, and maybe i’m forgetting someone.
But GREAT?
Keep in mind Kato…..
Gute had any opportunity he wanted to make sure he had receiver talent. Beyond, late draft picks, and (very) sad free agency wr signings.
BTW, my friend…Gute got rid of one $10 million dollar wr while he was still very productive (with Rodgers)
Then signed a has been Tight end 4 years out of his prime for $10 million.
Graham then gave the Packers 2 TD’s in 2018.
Jordy Nelson may have had 2 TD’s in his first game or two with Rodgers in 2018…in his sleep
Jimmy Graham signing….not GREAT
And puleeze….don’t come at me with Preston Smith, he’s been overpaid since day one.
He gave us 12 sacks that 2019 season, that’s great. But he shows up about every 3rd or 4th game, if that.
Rashan Gary….he’s had 9 solo tackles and 4.5 sacks, 0 forced fumbles.
Gary is now tied for 29th in sacks.
Yet he just got a contract that makes him the 5th highest paid edge rusher in the NFL.
Say what you want about Gute, it’s a free Country.
But i go by 2 things, what i see, and….results.
Right now…this team is, under Gute’s watch what’s it’s been….
BROKEN
What would be Gutekunst’s reason to spite Rodgers? It’s more likely they thought he was in decline and wanted a QB ready to go in the event the decline became rapid, like it does with most QBs. It’s wasn’t a bad plan, the larger problem is that I question the Packers ability to evaluate college prospects.
Well…maybe your right Deep.
Maybe Packer upper management…thought wrong.
GO FIGURE.
A big part of the Packers draft and develop philosophy is it doesn’t fit in the modern NFL with it’s salary cap. You can’t wait three years for a 1st round draft pick to start contributing to the team. They need to start from day one. You draft Jordan Love he can sit on the bench for one year but he needs to be starting in year two at the latest. If you are drafting players that take three years to develop you are drafting the wrong players. The Packers management needs to change the way they evaluate and draft players or move on from the current management and hire one that understands this.
I see what you’re saying in regards to QB’s and i agree with you.
Everyone wants that diamond in the rough rookie QB who plays well right away.
It’s possible, but rare.
Other positions don’t have much draft and develop in Green Bay, other than the edge rushers.
Center, guard, cornerback, WR’s and tight ends shouldn’t be expected to start right away, AND be vital cogs determining success or failure.
That is not, draft and develop.
If that’s the case, you already lost, as i’ve stated before.
Once again, there is too much for these rookies that need to be learned before they are put in the fire.
I would argue that edge rushers and lineman, are simpler to learn than those other positions
College ball is checkers, the NFL is chess.
Just because the 3 year wait worked for Rodgers, doesn’t automatically mean it works for anyone.
It also doesn’t mean Rodgers needed 3 years.
Rodgers was an outlier in that situation from a situational standpoint.
Rodgers didn’t need 3 years as a project, like Love was.
I thought Love was a reach in the draft.
Rodgers had far more upside, but he slipped down the board.
But you could clearly see how much more NFL ready Rodgers was compared to what we see now.
Gute was hired by Murphy as kind of a ‘draft and develop GM.
Maybe more like a ‘promote and develop GM’.
He could still be trying to develop, idk.
But i judge Gute against Wolf and Thompson in their timelines, and Gute isn’t in their class.
Jordan Love had the benefit of a lot of time to watch, practice, and learn behind one of the best ever. That much was done right for him. Now whether he’ll make it or not is a lot yet on him but this management group did him no favors. I’ve said before, I think he’s been a model employee the last few years awaiting his chance and he seems like a good dude. I’ve always wished the best for him.
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But.
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Setting him up to go out this year with such an inexperienced group of players expected to be on the receiving end of passes in an NFL offense is just plain negligent. This,….this is our GB Packers brain trust, management team, star chamber in action. Add in the current offensive line and this is why I still give JLo just a little leeway. But not much.
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I’m not sure if the confidence has been lost from MLF to JLo but it is seeming that way just by the play calls. There is not a lot of confidence in Love baked into the cake of the scheme. The short dinks and dunks and easy completions ain’t fooling anyone and it makes it easy to defense. JLo will have his eyes follow a target all the way on the longer designed throws and makes those much easier to defense as well. Looking off a defender is not yet a developed skill. The young receivers are another discussion. Some are getting it, others have yet to refine it. The fastest man in the world is just, frail and often unavailable. Others have to learn to hands catch and come back to the ball when the play is breaking up and the QB is in trouble.
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The O-line and the O penalties are just killing any chance this offense has at a minimal amount of forward momentum. They can’t run block, they can’t pass block, and when they are in third and short they’ll give you a false start or some other great holding penalty to knock you back into third and long. This we can pretty much count on.
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The coaching stinks. They are delivering the same product every week and using the same tired lines after the game to try and explain what happened. Lack of discipline happened. Look at all the damn penalties! That’s on coaching.
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People are dreaming of a high draft pick now. Seriously?! Look who will be making the selections. Warms the heart, don’t it? The man with the plan.
Remember girls, Kevin told us he needs at least two years to make a decision on Jordan Love. The rest of us have seen enough. I said we’d know by thanksgiving. It’s November 1st and we have our answer. We currently hold the 6th overall pick in next years draft. Chicago 2nd & 3rd, Arizona first overall. Tank the rest of the season, which won’t be hard to do, and hope for the best.
Indianapolis went 1-15 after the Peyton Manning injury then drafted Andrew Luck and were competitive right away. You don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. As much as I love Aaron Jones, like Jordy Nelson before him, he’s reached the end of the line. By hook or crook we get our QB in the draft next year. Draft a RB and safety and we’re back in business. As painful as this is, it’ll pass. I’d rather go 2-15 and get the QB we want in the draft. Than go 8-9 with a 40 year old has been.
Damn it Tom, you made one half assed decent post and now we’re right back to this. I don’t know how else to tell you how wrong you constantly are or how terrible your reading comprehension is so I’m just going to continue treating you as if you don’t exist after this. Try again next year when there’s a new list of shit you’re wrong about that you can learn from.
Well…look whose done pouting!!
Welcome back Scooter!! 🥱
Remember girls…this is all about Kevin.
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TANK THE SEASON!!
“By hook or crook we get our QB in the draft next year and Gute is just the man who can get that job done!!”
Gute has a plan Ladies
“Remember girls…Gute has a plan!!” – Gomer
Face it this team is better losing out (as if that couldn’t Happen) get 1 Pick get a QB.
Only possible (stress possible) wins I see is Carolina, Chicago. Thats 4 wins.
Dont kid yourself LaPew is on HOT seat, Fat boy Gutty will try and save his own A$$ & he should be out the door also. This team is ATROCIOUS reminds me of Randy Wright days
I suspect because LaFleur and Gutekunst report directly to Murphy that if he does anything he will clean house. The GM can’t fire the coach in this arrangement, so Gutekunst doesn’t have a scapegoat, so he’s a target too. I don’t think Murphy will actually do anything, he’ll let this go one more year, then after the 2024 season if things aren’t looking good, he’ll name a successor and let that person set up the management structure, hopefully with a GM who is a football guy with scouting track record like Wolf.
Murphy won’t fire anyone, unless he’s forced to, he won’t fire Gute or MLF.
Especially not after giving them both extensions.
Be careful what you wish for (See Aaron Rodgers)
Murphy could easily recommend Ball or Policy to the Presidents seat.
Then, who knows, maybe changes come, maybe not.
If not, i might start to get volatile, and if that happens, i won’t be the kind, nice, gentle, charming person you’ve enjoyed here through these years 🤨
Hardly wait for the Thanksgiving massacre/Bloodbath. Lions play tough rugged style, Lapew has turned Pack into 11 My Pillows! Find 5 Fat Beer Drinkers to play O-Line, can’t be worse that the 5 turnstiles we have now
I’d like to hear from Murphy and Gute sometime.
Whether that ever happens or not, i’ll guess we’ll see.
But yea, i want to hear from Gute…The man with the plan.
The man who builds this team and makes strategic team moves that are in the “best interest of the future of the Green Bay Packers”.
(Famous last words?)
Or from my man Murphy……..
This team is broken he told us, he “discovered” silo’s in the building after 11 years that he’s been there!! (imagine that, it only took him 11 years)
The man who put himself in charge of everything and told us he is the boss, everyone answers to him, and he has final say, on everything.
To get this team back on the right track.
They will have Dept. head meetings once a week to open up the lines of communication we were told (cough)
Yes, that Mark Murphy…
Of the “Ted will let me know when he wants to retire” fame.
(Wrong again Mark..the BOD’s will tell you when Ted retires, and they did, when you didn’t.
Is it any wonder under Murphy, then Murphy/Gute, why i’ve proclaimed the Green Bay Packers “BROKEN” the last 7, 8 years?
What a f….. disaster this is turning out to be, just like some of us proclaimed, years ago.
We can complain about MLF till the cows come home, justified as it may be.
But the problems are higher than that.
What else have i been saying for years and years and…..?
Championship are won from the top down.
Ron, Ted (RIP)….thank you for those two Championships.
Thanks for reading…..
TVOR
I’d rather see MLF hear next year than have Murphy pick his replacement. That would extend the pain another 4 or 5 years.
Rasul Douglas gets dealt to the Bills (with a 5th round pick) for,…..get this. A 3rd round pick! A 3rd rounder. What could go wrong? BG is golden with 3rd rounders.
You talkin about Raaaasuuul Douglas! lol
Um, and really that value comes out to a low 4th for Sul. A dude that just this past weekend, guys were going to in the locker room for advice, and was universally respect by people on the team, and in the Packers media. They are giving up a good player on a bargain contract, that has emerged as a leader. And at this point, I don’t believe in Gute’s process. Like wtf is this draft pick going to do to improve this team?
Douglass was a nice find for Gute, he seemed to have “winners passion”
Which leaders have.
But if Rasul’s history repeats itself, Douglass will be on yet another team or two before his career is over.
The PAckers are a better team with Douglass than without him, but he’s still not a game changer.
I’m indifferent about it. But i get Mitch’s 3rd round humor about it 😏
Douglas and a fifth for a 3rd. If Gute makes the pick it’s a loss for the Packers.
A backup TE from Vanderbilt with huge upside will be the pick no doubt.
Douglas had attitude & one of few who always played tough, gotta get him out !!!
We only want choirboys & I agree with Arch, Fatboy Gutty will blow picks. See Eric Stokes
I think Douglas has provided more value than all of Gute’s third round picks combined.
^THAT^
Rasul got sent because he wasn’t a good loser, he was vocal after the viking game.
He had a problem with losing, he wasn’t Carrying The G.
I read that too. Apparently one has to be on board with the suck. Now the poor guy gets to go play for an AFC contender and maybe see the playoffs. I thought he was one of the better players of the last few years. From where he started to where he ended up was a good story and he played decent football for Green Bay. All the best the Rasul Douglas.
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This is one of those indicators of players maybe “giving up” so to speak and management thought they’d send a message. A leadership type vet getting pissy about the situation doesn’t play well in the locker room and it frees up a minor amount of cap. So the higher ups wanted to send a message and tighten up the crew. As much as the defense and secondary needs help, Douglas wasn’t high enough on the list of those not so expendable. Gary just got a big raise, think he wants to chime in on the situation? Nope, I think he’s happy.
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Watch in the weeks ahead. Teams that go into these skids will often suffer from players doing stupid ass stuff off the field as well. When players could care less and not take their situation and team serious, they’ll do something dumb. It is just something that is indicative of bad morale. Management sensed it when Douglas mouthed off and that’s why he’s headed out of town.
Give Raiders credit for cutting bait and moving on from bad coach, what other team should follow suit HMMMMMMM PACKERS!!!!
I always liked Rasul D. He was hard nosed, played tough & only one on D had attitude & hated losing. FB Gutty let him go for nothing cuz he wasn’t on board with this Dumpster Fire of a team & Front Office. We need 22 more like him, help out FILTHY UNWASHED Bills, wtg Gute!!!
A 3rd round pick isn’t nothing!!!
Unless of course…Gut is picking it!!! 🤣
I wish someone would clarify what Gutes plan actually was….
Was it…..
1) Give up on a near SB team in 2020.
2) Push a bunch of money down the road to deal with, in Loves 1st 2 or 3 seasons.
3) Try to rank last in the NFL in offense?
4) Draft, develop and groom a QB for 4 years.
5) Then tank the season and draft another QB
6) Be next to horrible in 6 drafts
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What exactly…is Gutes plan? (i wonder)
Gutes plan has always been to just win enough games preferably towards the end of the season for him and his guys to all get extensions.
Yea, i’ve mentioned that also.
What say you Princess?
Anyone remember the first two games, against the leagues worst defenses?
Remember how much fun it was watching someone bragging about Jordan Love?
About how ‘right’ someone was about Jordan Love?
About how stupid all us Ladies were and how Jordan Love was forced in our face by a gleeful viking?
What happened to those good times?
Scooter?
I just watched Gute’s interview. I was going to take some notes on what I found interesting, but half way through I realized you really just can not trust anything coming out of this dude’s mouth. Is he focused on the future? Not for this question, now he’s focused on the Rams! How are you focused on the Rams when trading away our current best secondary player? Well, we had to look at the big picture and focus on the future!
We have faith in our players to get this going right! Oh? Well if it’s the same defensive players and same coach as last year, what makes you think it will change for the better? Well there’s ebs and flows and you know how it goes!
Veteran leadership is important! But if it’s missing? Well being young is no excuse!
I felt the same exact way when I was watching him speak, Packtat. I remember thinking “I don’t believe a word this guy says and I have zero confidence in this team getting better with him as GM because he is the reason they are the way they are.”
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I even wrote on another sight saying “This dude dodges questions like a politician. Instead of a straight answer we get a word salad of vague BS that downplays the fact that this team hasn’t played this bad since the 80’s.”
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With the things he has said over the years that are the complete opposite of what his actions were I can’t take him seriously.
“Jordan Love fell to us.” No, you used a 4th round pick to trade up for him after you flew out to go visit him.
“We are in win now mode.” No, you are not. Teams that are in win now mode don’t punt their first and fourth round picks four years into the future when you are one game from the Super Bowl.
“This was in the best interest of the Green Bay Packers.” Drafting a bunch of players to sit the bench for years on end is in the best interest of the team?
“This is not a rebuild.” Is he blind or does he think we are all dumb enough to believe him?
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It’s been six years and Gute hasn’t done much of anything to help this offense. Even after running Rodgers and Adams out the door the best offensive weapon is still Aaron Jones. The defense has eight first round picks but they are ran by a guy who went 0-16 and it shows. I’m sick of hearing LaFleur and Gutekunst answer reporters that ask them “why is the team in this position?” by saying “durrr… if I knew we wouldn’t be in this position right now.” Well tweedle-dee and tweedle-dumb, if you don’t have the answers then maybe they need to find someone who does. When you say you’re having a hard time evaluating Jordan Love because everyone around him is playing so poorly, who’s fault is that? Holy crap.
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Gute said that he traded Rasul Douglas because the offer was “too good to pass up.” Turning a 5th round pick into a 3rd round pick isn’t that big of a deal, especially the way Gute drafts in the 3rd round. You might as well say he gave up a defensive veteran for next to nothing. At a time when the secondary is littered with injuries. Head scratching, isn’t it? Gute said they are always looking to get younger. Does this guy want to put together an entire team of rookies? Like WTF dude. He’s almost there with the offense.
” Well, we had to look at the big picture and focus on the future!”
Yes!!….Because it’s worked so well for him in the past….lol
This nugget from down the hall made me chuckle….
Anonymous
“If they’re tanking, what will they do with their early picks? Worrisome. Trade back? Jump on the long snapper from South San Deago Tech?
They need to get this right.
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I found this nugget on the web, not sure if true or not but…..
Reporter: Jordan, thanks for joining us.
Love: Anytime, i’m the face of the Green Bay Packers now.
Reporter: Jordan, what would you tell all the Packer fans disgruntled with this team, some telling the team to tank the season to draft a blue chip QB.
Love: I’d tell them to R-E-L-A-X
Reporter : Is that it?
Love: Hey, it’s worked before right?
Reporter, Ok but, how do you feel about fans wanting a new QB, do you feel they lost faith in your talents?
Love: My work speaks for itself. I can make all the throws, read defenses, go through my progressions, i’m mobile and dangerous, and my teammates have faith in me. They said so last off season.
Reporter: What is the one thing you are capable of doing that could alleviate the concerns of Packer fans.
Love: That’s simple, how does run the table grab you?
Reporter: Thank you for your time Jordan, it’s been enlightening.
Love: Thanks, i’ll probably run into you again soon at the Pro Bowl, or the MVP award ceremony, maybe both.
Some real Packer fan down the hall thought Rashan Gary should have gotten more money.
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Then some fool decided to open up his pizza gullet……
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“Being a game changer, is Rashan Gary then under payed?” – Real Packer fan
Lets see here JDH…
Max Crosby-2019 4th round pick #106…
44 career sacks..8 forced fumbles…60 run stuffs
23.5 mill/year
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Rashan Gary, 2019 1st round pick #12….
27 sacks..3 forced fumbles….15 run stuffs
24 mill/year
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So what should happen here JDH……?
Should Crosby take a pay cut, or should Gary get a raise?