So much for 2023 articles comparing Jordan Love’s stats with Aaron Rodgers in 2023. Rodgers finished his first and only game as a Jet in 4 snaps. His game stats went 0-1 with a sack.
His QBR: 2.6. For that contribution to the Jets’ season the Packers will accumulate a Jets second-round draft pick next year, a two-position (15 to 13) draft pick trade up that ended up as Lucas Van Ness, Second round pick Luke Musgrave, and sixth round pick kicker Anders Carlson. If Rodgers does not come back next year for the Jets and play at a Super Bowl caliber level, his name could become the trivia answer for who was involved in the worst trade in Jet history.
Dark room meditation sessions and Ayahuasca tea drinking parties never saw this coming. The “beautiful dream” that Rodgers called his Jets experience was lacking two important pieces. A pass blocking scheme that recognized his penchant for holding onto the ball a bit longer than many QB’s in the league, and offensive tackles that were the caliber of Green Bay’s.
The blocking scheme used by the Jets required tackles to cut block outside pass rushers on three step drop pass attempts. The technique was used in all three attempts by Rodgers in his 2023 campaign. In all three pass attempts Rodgers was hit. The first attempt he had to run for his life and was nearly sacked. The pass was a throw-away to save himself. Three drop backs. Three significant QB hits. One season ending injury.
Perhaps the nay-sayers who rip Mr. Gutekunst over on Lombardi Avenue should give him a pass on this trade and his focus on drafting offensive lineman. He has drafted for defense with his first pick in every draft except the Jordan Love draft of 2020. His drafting of Elgton Jenkins in second round and Jon Runyan in the sixth the following year has helped solidify the offensive line. Add on Zach Tom and Rasheed Walker and you may have future book end tackles drafted in the fourth and seventh round respectively.
Josh Meyers seems to be struggling but is still a starting center drafted by Gutekunst. While fans and critics will point to busts like Cole Madison and Simon Stepaniak, the method employed by Gutekunst, multiple picks on offensive lineman often in the same draft, recognizes the nature of draft picks and their failure rate. He keeps drafting them even when he seems to have a full roster. Competition creates success.
The Packers had a great first game against Chicago, but this is the youngest team in the NFL, burdened by a 50 million dollar dead cap hit. If they win this year, it will just add to the experience and confidence for next year.
Their former Star quarterback left them with, then promptly reworked and lowered for his new team, a fifty million dead cap gift. For the last three years it has felt like Rodgers did not appreciate the Green Bay organization, specifically their GM and President. Will he have time this year to ponder the results of that use of his energy? For the Packers, all of that is water under the bridge.
The trade of a future hall of farmer who is the oldest player in the NFL looks pretty good on Tuesday Sept. 12, 2023. Now Packer fans no longer need to root for the Jets to win this season. They can focus on the Green and Gold for better or worse. Gutekunst made a trade that could have haunted him for the rest of what could have been a shortened career. He made a tough decision on a great player that did not seem fully committed to the Green Bay Packers.
He got a good package in trade. Will he lose sleep over Rodger’s injury? Oddsmakers would not take that bet. As any GM will tell you…After all, it’s a business.
Just imagine Paul. What if Brian Gutekunst didn’t draft Jordan Love and took the highest rated WR on the board in the 2020 draft. That would have been either Chase Claypool, Denzel Mims, DJ Hamler, or Tee Higgins. Subsequently Aaron Rodgers doesn’t get all butt hurt and doesn’t get into a pissing contest with management and is never traded. Therefore when the 39 year old Aaron Rodgers has a season ending injury in the first game of the 2023 season. You’re fucked because you’ve got camp arms Tim Boyle, Kurt Benkert, Danny Etling, or someone like them as your backup QB. Remember that calf injury Rodgers had in training camp? This was gonna happen. It was only question of when.
Old NFL QB’s are a lot like Supreme Court justices. They’re all gonna die in office. The only question is when. Some have the good sense to retire when their party is in office and can be replaced by a younger like minded justice. Most let their ego get in the way and hang on to the bitter end.
And so it is with old NFL QB’s. If they play long enough, their skill set either diminishes or they suffer catastrophic injuries and teams spend decades trying to pick up the pieces. Very few know when to walk away.
Fortunately for us, we have a GM who understood all of this and prepared accordingly. Drafting Jordan Love didn’t make Rodgers happy. And it didn’t make a lot of fans happy. But it needed to be done. This is a better football team now because of it. The best GM’s don’t let fans or players dictate policy. They have a vision as stick to their convictions. Even if that makes them unpopular.
Hell yea!! The Packers are undefeated!!
I learned so much about old QB’s and Supreme Court Justices.
Great post!!
The Tim Boyle, that Tom M. is referring to is currently the Jets #2 QB.
For those of you not familiar with Tim Boyle, let me help out. He was the undrafted QB who beat out 1st rounder Jordan Love for the back up job to Rodgers in 2020.
If your wondering why you didn’t see Love, it was because he was never activated for a game, therefore never dressed for a game.
As always, you’re welcome.
Since when does getting hurt on one team mean you would get hurt for sure on another team in another timeline? Like just because he got hurt on the jets doesn’t mean he would have had the same fate in the Packers this year
Yeah, it doesn’t make any sense to me either Kato. Then again, nothing this guy says makes sense.
It wasn’t about comparing stats with Love and Rodgers for 2023, never was.
That mattered….in no way at all.
What matter’s is watching Jordan Love perform over a 17 game season on his own talent and merits, not based, or compared to what Rodgers does…C’mon man!
The merits of drafting and trading up for Love no longer has anything to do with Rodgers, whether Rodgers got injured or not.
Jordan Love is now center stage and has to perform over time. Whether Rodgers is playing for the Jets, or he’s working at Burger King, it doesn’t matter.
Love had a nice game against the Bears…Kudos.
But one game against the NFL’s bottom feeder team does not a career make.
For some simple minds, this game seems to be proof that Love is now proven and therefore the Love pick is now justified. (whatever makes you sleep well).
That might be the simpletons conclusion. But NFL fans with an average IQ, know better.
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Case in point….
“Gutekunst made a trade that could have haunted him for the rest of what could have been a shortened career.”
Could have?
I guess it can’t haunt him, now that Loves ‘proven’.?
Wowzer.
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But that was probably not as ludicrous as someone saying the Bears were a “team on the rise” and that “Justin Field was a franchise QB”.
After the Bear game, and lets be honest…did anyone think…gee, this Bear team is going places….lol
Or….Geez, that Justin Fields, he sure looks like a franchise QB to me!!
Yea…lol
I doubt anyone watching that game, thought of anything that stupid, or was that drunk.
Just curious….
Goff beat Mahomes.
Does this now mean that Jared Goff is a better QB than Patrick Mahomes?
Looking through my notes, that’s how it works, i guess.
Some fans may not like it, but the Packers have an advantage that a lot of pro sports teams don’t have, in that they don’t have to manage the team according to the whims of some billionaire owner who inherited their wealth and basically has gotten whatever they want their whole lives. For them, a guy like Aaron Rodgers is just another Lamborghini to add to their collection to show off to other billionaires. When the NFL TV contracts allowed the Packers to have enough money to be run like a business, one that doesn’t have to report profits on a quarterly basis, they began to think long term. This gives the Packers an advantage.
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That being said, we still don’t know how good the Packers and Love really are. The Bears are a historically bad team both on offense and defense. There were plenty of times I saw the Packers and Love make mistakes that would cost them dearly against a team that had decent players and were coached better. I still think they are going to have a losing season, maybe not 3-14 like I thought originally, but more like 6-11.
You are correct Deep, the Packer structure has some advantages, but it’s a two way sword, it has it’s share of disadvantages as well.
The difference is, who is running the team.
One of the problems was/is accountability.
I’d go through more issues, but it would turn into a novel and frankly, i’m not that interested in putting in the time. Or reading some borish, false and ludicrous
response.
I’m fairly certain now that Rodgers is gone, all the problems the Packers had are gone also.
Now we can get back to winning Championships !!
I know you’re being sarcastic with the Rodgers comment and the Packers problems being gone, but I think in the NFL with parity and salary cap, teams with young, good QBs have advantages over teams with aging, high paid QBs. Salary, ability to run, motivation, coachability, injury risk, these are just some of the reasons why a good young QB gives a team a better chance than a equally talented old QB. And I’m not saying that Love is comparable to Rodgers, but I don’t think Rodgers was going to win a Super Bowl again. It was time to move on.
Those young good inexpensive QB’s are on their rookie deals. They become expensive when they sign their next contract. If Love turns out to be an average or better QB the Packers will be paying him big $’s in a year. That’s why you can’t let a 1st round QB sit on the bench for three years while he learns the professional game. The Packers needed to move on from Rodgers 2 years ago when they probably could have gotten a kings ransom for him.
Based on what i saw with the Jets defense. With a good offensive line, i think they had as good a chance as any team to win a SB.
In the Packers last two SB wins, what did they have in common besides a HOF QB?
They had top 5 defenses, that gave up 16 PPG (or less). which might be what the Jets have now if they can keep their offense on the field.
If we had a top 5 defense, would we have beaten the Bucs in the NFCCG?
Most likely, especially the way Rodgers outperformed Brady in that game.
Go back to the Seattle NFCCG, i can probably give you ten reasons why the Packers lost that game, and none of them involve Rodgers.
And i can give you 1 reason why McCarthy and Capers should have been let go after that game.
I honestly feel terrible for Rodgers and I feel terrible for the Jets fans who had their optimism destroyed. I was watching the game with some friends and after the first couple snaps the remark was made – he’s going to get killed out there. It was obvious that the old habit of holding the ball too long and that gawd awful terrible offensive line was just not going to cut it.
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I don’t feel as bad for the Jets organization. They knew what they had and they knew what they should have done to protect an investment such as the one they made. They didn’t.
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Going down a rabbit hole of “what ifs” is just plain stupid when looking back. Choices made change other factors going forward and all we do is guess pointlessly at what shoulda, coulda and woulda happened if different deals, drafts, or trades were made at different moments over the last several seasons. GB is here and the Jets are there and what’s done is done.
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I feel terrible about that injury for a couple reasons. A good friend of mine is currently nursing the very same injury that he received from playing (of all things),….pickleball. He said it is one of the more painful things he’s ever been through and he’s had the surgery and is now laid up for months. I don’t wish that on anyone.
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The other thing is that I’ve watched other former Packer players through the years who have gone on to other NFL teams and most often I still cheered on their efforts and wanted good things for them if they were good players in GB. I still like Micah Hyde in Buffalo. I was still was happy for Jamall Williams when he did well in Detroit. NFL is a business and if the business decisions meant that players went elsewhere I still wanted good things for players who played well for the Packers. Injuries suck, but it is also part of that business but I would never engage some kind of glee in that it becomes some sort of karma to fit a spiteful narrative. Some do I guess.
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Well, maybe now that the book on this individual is closed for the year, this site and those who comment on it can now finally focus on – the Green Bay Packers. There should be plenty to talk about with this team, and these players, this season. Here’s hoping the GBP stay healthy and uninjured.
Lol…there is nothing like comments in here by some know it all expert that are filled with “IF’S.
Coming in a close second are the entertaining “hypotheticals”.
There are many ways to have your “optimism destroyed.” It could happen in the blink of an eye, such as an injury, or it could be a slow burn over the course of the season. There’s absolutely no indication that 39 year old Aaron Rodgers would have been any better than 38 year old Aaron Rodgers last year. And 38 year old Aaron Rodgers wasn’t good enough. And this is where the excuses start. “If Aaron Rodgers doesn’t get hurt he would have been the Jets savior.” Not likely. I would have much preferred he played his usual average self and had to finally have to take responsibility when his play fell short. Now we get more excuses. Aaron Rodgers the patron saint of excuses….
Rodgers, Rodgers, Rodgers, Rodgers, and the beat goes on, and on, and on, and on, and……
“ There’s absolutely no indication that 39 year old Aaron Rodgers would have been any better than 38 year old Aaron Rodgers last year. And 38 year old Aaron Rodgers wasn’t good enough.”
So with Tom logic, because Rodgers didn’t win the MVP in 2019 there is absolutely no indication that he should have won the MVP in 2020 and 2021. It is impossible for players to play better than they did the year before. It’s all down hill after your rookie year. Those MVP’s from 20’ and 21’ never happened. It was all a conspiracy.
Meanwhile, back at the Supreme Court…..
Lol
Cheer up Mitch. Rodgers will be back next year. Unless Zach Wilson follows Jordan Love and takes the next step. Then Uncle Woody pulls a Mark Murphy and tells the media, “will take him back if we have to, but we don’t really want him.” Don’t these people understand he’s “the best QB ever!” Apparently not.
Zach Wilson was breathing down Aaron Rodgers neck for his starting job.
I gotta get, the Easter Bunny is coming over for dinner.
It’s ok Mitch, not many are as smart as Tommi.
I’m just grateful he’s around to learn from.
How else would we know that the Bear team is on the rise, or that Justin Fields is a franchise QB?
I’d love to hear more about that.
Could you enlighten us Ladies Tommi?
“Give me your timetables, give me your doubts…and then watch what I do.” –
@AaronRodgers12
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Kind of like when the Packers braintrust thought that the 2018 season was the end of the road for Rodgers career.
But what happened?
The Packers went 39-10 during the next 3 seasons, while winning two MVP’s
That lasted of course, until Murphy/Gute stripped Rodgers of all of his pass catching talent in 2022.
Which also now effects Jordan Love.
Is it any wonder, or shock to anyone, why Aaon Jones is currently the #1 receiver in Green Bay?
OMG! You’re still obsessed with licking Aaron’s treads!
I have to admit, I thought you’d give up your misguided unhealthy Aaron crush once Aaron was no longer a Packer. Guess not. I overestimated you.
I overestimated your Mother.
Once she got out of rehab, i thought this time around i’d get my moneys worth.
Piss way $5, shame on her, piss away another $5, shame on me.
That’s what i get for giving the bitch a 2nd chance.
“Dark room meditation sessions and Ayahuasca tea drinking parties never saw this coming.”
Great stuff! Yeah, Aaron is full of it. Yes, the Packers “won” that trade. I knew it the second I heard the deets. That much for an aged-out druggie selfish distracted locker room cancer? The Packers should have had to pay to get rid of him.
So funny, as soon as I heard he was hurt — that part was not funny but this part was — I said, “What will it be now? Let me guess: the defensive player cheated or some damn thing.” Just like with Anthony Barr and that injury. A completely legal and honorable hit, just football, and Rodgers went on a talk show tour whining and playing the victim, his favorite pass time just like with all the other MAGA whackadoodles.
First Bahktiari claimed it was the turf. Nope. Wrong. Turf and grass are statistically the same. Dobbins got the same injury that week on grass. Sooooo… we need to ban both turf AND grass? Oops, people won’t believe that one.
Try again. OK, here was another one: Shame on the Jets for not having a better o-line! Well, it is better than most and they could not get the LT they wanted because of the Rodgers trade. Also, he knew what he was getting into. Guess that one doesn’t get traction either.
Okay, try again! Rodgers came up with the cut block scheme. Yes, blame it on the coaches! It is hard to believe but they coach what many other coaches coach. Those bastards! Blame them! Not chance! Not fate! Rodgers is a special snowflake and fate would never do him wrong so it must be a coaching conspiracy!
To be fair, that one got a little traction — with the above writer.
You guys must be so damn glad Rodgers is no longer on the team.
^ Lmao ^
So angry.
I guess it was time to wipe the dust off of the other viking fan username 😉
Rodgers, Rodgers, Rodgers, Rodgers, and the beat goes on, and on, and on, and on, and…….