THE FIRST HALF
And when the headline says, “fall”, we are talking about a steep cliff. The Packers had a chance to walk out of Lambeau Field as sole leaders of their division. Instead, they handed the baton to the NFC North to Detroit in an embarrassing first half home effort.
The offensive line could not win the line of scrimmage. Love, pressured constantly for the first time, could not make accurate passes consistently. The lowlights included an interception that was tipped, but he was throwing to a covered receiver. A left-handed throw out of the end zone to save a sack.
Not counting the final drive that ended the first half with a sack of Love and no points, the best drive was 5 plays with the Packers only first down, coming off a neutral zone infraction penalty by Detroit. A total offensive first half output of 22 yards on 20 offensive plays. That includes 17 yards on the final drive of the half.
These are the Packer drives of the first half:
Four plays- zero yards. Field goal gift by the defensive interception
Three plays- negative 11 yards. Punt
Three plays- seven yards. Punt
One play- interception
Three plays- three yards. Punt
Five plays- fifteen yards. Punt
Four plays- seventeen yards. End of half -last play sack of Love
The defense, gashed by the run for 121 yards at the half, were also touched by big pass plays. Rasul Douglass gave the Lions two huge plays, the Lions first touchdown and another big pass.
He also seemed to be watching on other plays. The difference in effort level from Detroit’s secondary and the Packers secondary was obvious and disappointing.
After praising Quay Walker on opening night, his slow reads and inability to take on and shed any lineman’s block led to long runs and a Detroit touchdown allowing David Montgomery to waltz into the end zone untouched after Walker vacated his gap.
Last year Green Bay’s defense was unable to stop the run with De’Vondre Campbell sidelined and Walker running the defense. The first half Thursday was a repeat performance. And then there was the boneheaded play on the 4th quarter field goal by Detroit.
THE SECOND HALF
Give it to Jordan Love. He didn’t quit. He made some plays in the third quarter and the Packers anemic offense showed signs of life. Two good drives, capped off by Love’s first accurately thrown deep ball connecting with Jayden Reed for 44 yards brought some fan noise back into Lambeau.
The defense stopped Detroit on their first possession of the third quarter. They held the Lions to a field goal on their second drive until Quay Walker pulled the boneheaded card out of his arse …again. Jumping over the center on the attempt, giving Detroit a first and goal.
Walker ended the drive meeting Detroit’s running back one yard in the end zone on the touchdown. That was the end of the game. Love’s subsequent pick just started the Lion’s celebration early.
This was an ugly loss sprinkled with a few plays that gives you hope for the future. We knew this young team would struggle. Few teams lose two All Pro lineman and protect their quarterback.
Royce Newman and Wallace struggled. Center Josh Meyers still seems passive, easily knocked around. Zach Tom played on an injured knee. The best you can say is the team did not quit. They now have 10 days to heal from this. Let’s see how they come out against the Raiders on Monday night.
Start the Caleb Williams watch? Love isnt the answer & POOR drafts by Ted AHOLE Thompson & Gutekunst have derailed this team for years to come.
Lmfao after a bad start you are ready to declare Love a bust? Dumb motherf*****. Aaron Rodgers in his 4th start completed less than 50% of passes for 150 yards, 2tds and 3ints. Thank god we didn’t just give up on him and go on Matt Stafford watch you complete buffoon.
FIRE LaFluer NOW!! I’ve seen enough of his piss poor coaching, if they extend this asswipe? Packer Org is as dumb as they look. W/O Rodgers watch that W-L rec plummet
Ah yes, the retarded fan that goes on a “fire everybody”, “Packers organization as bad as they come” rant after a single loss. They went 8-9 last year with Rodgers genius. They are 2-2 this year. So far very similar winning %. They are a very young team missing basically its top 3 best players (Bahktiari, Jaire, Jenkins) and Gary and Aaron Jones on limited snap counts. They have the youngest roster in the league, and Aaron Jones was easily the oldest guy that played offense for them. Stop being a crybaby entitled fan, and enjoy this season. Anyone that wasn’t expecting a youth fueled Rollercoaster of high highs and low lows had very unrealistic expectations.
You are a TYPICAL A who knows nothing, exce3pt happy hour at nearest club!!! You Fmatter!!
Yikes!
It was a fun game to watch… as long as you aren’t a Packers fan. What a beat down. Short week with the usual home advantage for Packers. They almost always get home field on Thursday nights. A favoring by the NFL schedule makers to help try to prop up the Packers. Just like they were last to play in England and have played there once, other teams five or more times (Jaguars 9 times!). But the schedule makers, and crooked refs, can only do just so much for the Packers. Even with the home site on a short week and a bonus ref-awarded TD drive… the Packers were still blown out.
Wow! Fun times!
Where’s Piffle? Step up and blame the franchise for not licking harder at Aaron’s cleats.
AWE 😃
Tommi’s alter ego misses misses me.
SKOL!!
Yup. Could be worse. Could be a Vikings fan.
Aren’t the vikings 0-3, with a very good possibility of winning 4 games at most? Glass houses
Observations…..
1) WOW
2) With Rodgers gone, is this the MLF’s offense the way it should be run?
3) Although missing starting safeties, Detroit is still a work in progress. Can Watson get anymore open for a TD?
4) Who runs 4 plays, gains 0 yards and scores points? The Packers. Thanks Rudy
5) Credit Love on a 44 yard dime to Reed. It’s a shame the Packers can’t run more plays after time expires.
6) Preston Smith played exactly like, well….Preston Smith.
7) Two nice sacks by Clark and Wyatt. Love some DL penetration.
8) Ryan Fitzpatrick is a tool.
9) The Packers should have traded Bakh to the Jets. Hindsight right?.
10) Props for Doubs production. Nothing long, but consistently helped moved the chains. Nice job, credit due.
11) 211 rushing yards….Joe Barry has a plan. We’re waiting Joe.
12) Quadzilla?
13) Royce ‘Godzilla’ Newman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muUZjovOFRg
I’ve been thinking the same thing. Maybe AR wasn’t the problem with this offense.
Minus a few quirks, i never thought he was the problem.
Matter of fact, he was mostly the solution for the Packers shortcomings his whole career.
Not to mention the job security he helped to provide for a lot of people.
Matter of fact….My guess is he might have a better football mind than Gute and MLF combined.
Like the announcer said last night, having Rodgers under center is like also having a offensive coordinator under center.
It’s a pity the Packers didn’t take the team seriously when they were only one game away from a Super Bowl…two years in a row.
Drafting two bench guys in Love and Dillon.
Gee, nothing like giving up on your team.
Then simple minds, wonder why Rodgers was pissed?
We’re one game away from SB…..So lets draft two bench players while giving up the 1st, 2nd, and 4th round pick of the draft.
BRILLIANT!!
This 100 percent
Royce Newman reminds me of Josh Sitton. Errrrr Allen Barbre
From down the hall for your reading entertainment…..
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Before the Lions game, i commented (down the hall) that a pattern is developing concerning the success of this Packers offense.
The Packers played the Bears and Atlanta who last year ranked 29th and 27th, worse yet, 32nd and 31st in defensive scoring, and the offense basically was humming, sans the 1st 3 quarters against the Falcons, but at least scoring enough to win.
Then they played last seasons 5th ranked defense in the Saints. We saw what happened.
So logic would say that we’d have success against last years 32nd ranked defense of the Lions.
But….Not so fast!!
Die hard fans know that Detroit’s defense turned it on the last 6 games of the 2022 season. In those 6 games, the defense only gave up 19.5 PPG. Very good for them.
Especially considering they gave up 27 PPG in their first 11 games.
So far this season they are at 19.25 PPG. I believe a defensive scoring average of 19 PPG in this league is not elite, but it’s still getting it done.
The Lions aren’t quite there yet, considering how wide open Watson was on that 1 yard TD catch. Though they had their safeties out.
Like it or not, this Lions defense is for real and it’s probably going to get better.
This author mentioned the Packers are now a mid tier team, and i agree.
I think the best case scenario at this point is to be a mid tier team at seasons end while they continue to grow. They certainly have the schedule to do that.
I disagree on Walker to a point,, he gets inside fairly well and tackles for loss because of his quickness, but otherwise allows too many yards before the tackle.
He is maddening to watch sometimes for his lack of play recognition, the same things scouts said about him in their draft reports.
We saw again on Walkers penalty jumping over the line, that some of his problems are upstairs.
The 44 yard pass to Reed looked really good, Love threw a perfect dime to him, and Reed kept great focus bringing the ball in.
Since the regulation clock clearly went down to zero’s before the ball was snapped, the refs were either incompetent, or they decided to give the Packers some mercy yardage.
It is what it is, but regardless, it was a beautiful pass/catch.
I’ll try this again.
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Any hope that fans had of a semi-decent season with watching fun games with young players sometimes making splash plays has pretty much evaporated with the news about Bahk. Love really needs good protection at this point of development, especially with the new(ish) receivers. Not having a Bahk and Jenkins for protection was very apparent, especially with Hutchinson across the line. It looked horrible.
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Get used to horrible. For a while anyway.
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I had some decent points in the one the censors ate. I can’t remember it anymore.
Poor offensive line play has been a thing across the NFL for those watching other games than the Packers. Anyone that knows anything about football, and especially offensive line play, knows that chemistry and communication passing off stunts and identifying blitzers is a huge part of success. The moves in recent years by the NFLPA declining the number of padded practices, and now fewer preseason games, along with fewer snaps by starters, has really hurt the product on the field. We have seen it now with teams we have played. Chicago’s is God awful, Atlantas isn’t very good, neither is NO. Detroit is easily the best we have seen. In fact the only OLs in the NFL that I think are good when healthy are GB, KC, PHI, MIA, DET. An argument can be made for DAL and CLE
With Jordan Love it’s about consistency. We’ve seen him make plays off script. We’ve seen him make plays in context of the offense. But he expects to have a long NFL career he’s going to have to do it consistently for 4 quarters. It was a tale of two half’s for the second week in a row. He had pressure in his face all night but he had open receivers in the first half. He’s got to make those throws. Young QB’s are going to have games like these. I want to see how he responds in Vegas next week…
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The Packers don’t play the Raiders next week. They play them on Mon. night the following week.
You’re welcome.
Jordan love isn’t the major problem on this team.
The defense held the almighty Kittens (no relation to Tommi) to…..
Under 450 yards
They held the kittens to under 35 points
Didn’t allow more than 25 first downs
They even held them to under 220 yards rushing.
But hey, at least the Lions fans had a good time.
It’s a new day in Green Bay.
So normally someone would just write this off as a bad day.
Here is why this is THEE major problem…….
Eleven 1st round picks spent on defensive players the last 12 years.
PLUS….In 2019, spending 182 million on defensive players, sans Billy Turner.
Three questions….
1) When do we start to see a return on investment?
2) When is somebody going to be held accountable?
3) If the defense is not where we want it at seasons end, do we…..
A) Continue to spend more 1st round picks on defense, it’s seems to be working so far, right Gute?
B) Fire another Defensive Coordinator and pretend it’s his fault
C) Make a change at GM (roster building)
D) A and B
My guess is it would be A and B
It’s just like the way it was under Ted, no accountability.
Hell….i know!!…Lets give the man responsible an extension. YES, that’s the answer.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
The Packers opponents all can’t be Chicago and Atlanta.
Because it’s slow…….
Tom M 4 days ago
The rest of you ladies can go jerk each other off and badmouth AJ Dillion. This year’s Kevin King.
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Kitty….
1) Define bad mouthing, is bad mouthing describing a players performance on the field, or is bad mouthing what you do concerning Rodgers?
Through 4 games, Dillon has 44 carries for 118 yards giving him a 2.7 yard average with 0 TD’s.
We can’t discuss this, or bring this up?
Why?…because stats are bs? Or…because he’s a Gute pick, so it isn’t ….nice?
Or….you don’t allow it?…..lol
2) “Not once did Jordan Love utter the words that his WR’s needed to develop and earn his “trust.” The biggest bunch of utter nonsense in all of professional sports.” – Kitty
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LMAO…you nailed it again Princess! You tell em Kitty!!!
Because in the NFL, QB’s DON’T need to have any trust in their receivers.
Because according to Princess, that is “UTTER NONESENSE”
So…lol….
Wide receivers don’t need to develop and earn trust from an NFL QB.
By God!!
That sounds exactly like….TOMMI LOGIC
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In unrelated….
Tommi…again, i gotta ask.
Why does your mind always think of men gratifying each other orally, or men jerking each other off?
Then always putting those thoughts in a football forum.
Is there something you want to tell us?
If not, then it has to be asked, exactly what is wrong with you?
Somewhat in AJs defense, the run blocking has been shit. The Packers offensive line is a more athletic, zone blocking scheme unit, which does not suit AJ Dillons running style. Which, begs the question: why draft AJ Dillon in the 2nd round?
I hear that, but i remember Eddie Lacy busting through when there weren’t holes, he made his own sometimes.
And he didn’t have thighs as big as Dillon.
A lot of folks throughout the comment boards have made the comment about this team should be – fun to watch. Maybe based on the youth of the team and all the new players getting their chances.
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When does – fun to watch – become, frustrating to watch? Because it is already creeping in.
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A few weeks ago they had a game in hand that by all accounts they should have won and they wound up losing. Two weeks ago they had a game that they should have lost. For three quarters every facet of their game – offense, defense, and special teams took turns looking ugly. Then they won that game, by luck. Yes, they mounted a thrilling comeback but they got the win on a missed field goal. The other team missing a field goal was the “dagger”.
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After that Saints game my wish was that they could put four quarters of good football together – in the same game. That sure went out the window with the Lions. Four quarters of good football in the same game is still a worthy goal. Let’s hope.
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What is the better equation here? Does a good running back make an average line look better, or does a good offensive line make an average running back look better? I think it is more the first. GB only has on decent back with Aaron Jones and the line looks quite “offensive”. Even with keeping Jones on a snap count they really waited too long to try and get him into the mess and pretty quickly it was too late. What happened to the new toy from pre-season, Wilson? The Dillon issue is just maddening.
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Sean Rhyan made such strides in camp and pre-season that he just had to be kept. Is he still that bad that he isn’t playing instead of Newman? Bahk is gone for year, maybe forever, this line needs help.
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I thought Quay Walker had improved greatly over year one. He is very fast and he does tackle. But Walker reminds me of something I learned in my last career when I had to train and supervise people. Everyone, and I mean everyone, has an inner idiot and every once in a while our inner idiot likes to come out and play. Often times when the inner idiot comes out is when a stupid thing will happen. In football that would be a boneheaded penalty. He is still susceptible to inner idiot moments and that is something he needs to come to grips with, recognize, and say – not now. He is a bit of a bright spot but still a work in progress.
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One thing that was maddening in the Detroit game was the kickoff returns. At what point do you just say take the dang touchback and start at the 25? Constantly trying to run it out, not working, and then getting a stupid penalty and starting with your back to the end zone. Nixon ran one back, last year, I get it. It was rather apparent it wasn’t going to happen in the Lions game. Starting field position was no favor to the offense in this game.
So, a couple things. Yeah watching the packets blow out bad teams with AR had a certain level of fun, especially when it was the bears or vikings. Losing typically isn’t fun. I say this year is fun because it is a young team that I would love nothing more than to watch them grow before our eyes. It’s like watching your kid grow up, particularly a boy. Boys tend to dumb shit. They are going to do dumb shit like try and do “stunts” on bikes or something, skin their knees, maybe have an injury that results in an ER visit. Perhaps talk back and get into arguments. But, hopefully, they grow up and become an outstanding kid, get a good education and are more successful than you. That’s my take on this team. If the team does become a playoff, or even super bowl contender in the next few years, it will make me really reflect on this year’s team and think of it fondly. If it fails, and the kid becomes a dropout meth head, then we know what is going to happen lol.
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Completely agree on the Sean Rhyan thing. He literally can’t be worse than Royce Newman. We already know what he is. I hope they give Anthony Johnson Jr some playing time at safety later this year and see what he can do. This year should be about evaluating young guys and giving them something to build off of for next season. Bruises and triumphs be damned
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Mitch, i value your comments, and i know you take time, to gather and write your thoughts.
After reading your comments, i wanted to read it again because i knew i wanted to comment back and i wanted to make sure i got the jist on what you’re trying to convey.
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Don’t fall into all that “fun to watch” bul sheetski.
That is hooligan speak for putting the best spin on a team that relies on rookies and 2nd year players for success.
I’m calling the 2022-2023 season(s) one long training camp for all the newer guys.
With that said….there is always something to keep me entertained with every game.
I watch each week with amusement until this team is serious again about being competitive.
When my ‘waiting period’ is over (started 2016)
Waiting period = until all the disease is out of the building
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I have written on occasion in the off season that i don’t doubt Loves skillset physically, he can spin the ball on a rope, he has the arm strength.
You don’t get drafted in the first round without some throwing skills.
But he had two flaws (so far)
1) Accuracy
2) Handling the pressure
The first two games to me anyway, were the winnable games, Bottom ranked teams in overall defense, and in scoring defense. It was almost like Green Bay got to hand pick their first two opponents.
So when i see his passer rating over 100 in both those games, i wasn’t shocked, that was great for his confidence.
But he still wasn’t tested because he had clean pockets overall, for both games.
Then they played two teams that are capable of providing some pressure, then the line, and Love are going to be tested.
Well, we saw what happened to the line with our left side out, and the last two games Loves passer rating were in the 60’s
So as predicted, he didn’t handle pressure well, as we saw against the Chiefs in 2021 when he again, had a passer rating in the 60’s. He was only sacked once in that game, but he was hit 7 times, and hurried more than that.
This is why i said, we won’t know about Love until after a full season, maybe even into next season depending on his development and intangibles.
Not 8 games as lettuce head Murphy told us.
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Concerning Ryhan….
ANYTHING, that is said, players that are crowned, praised, whatever……in the off season, or in pre-season should be taken with a grain of salt. It’s 95% off season hope/fan hype usually.
Which is fine if people want to drink the kool aid and feel all warm and fuzzy, that’s cool.
But for me, i know better.
I know there is a huge difference between practicing in shorts, 11 on 11’s, even pre-season…..they are not remotely close to replicating real game action, where then, and only then, can you judge a players progress, potential, and skillset.
Always enjoy reading your comments Mitch.
We appreciate you.
PF4L
I know you referenced Mitch, but it feels like you were more referencing my comment. I am not crowning Rhyan. Maybe he is worse than Newman, which is honestly hard to believe. But what do they have to lose in a season they have no chance to win anything meaningful? They need to know if he is worth rostering next year.
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Love, has similar WR talent to last year as Rodgers did. If not less because Lazard isn’t there (it is fair to question if Lazard is as talented physically as a rookie they have playing major snaps). I don’t think Rodgers played better in any meaningful way than Love this year as of now. Just my opinion and eye test though.
Mitch, i value your comments, and i know you take time, to gather and write your thoughts.
After reading your comments, i wanted to read it again because i knew i wanted to comment back and i wanted to make sure i got the jist on what you’re trying to convey.
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Don’t fall into all that “fun to watch” bs.
That is hooligan speak for putting the best spin on a team that relies on rookies and 2nd year players for success.
I’m calling the 2022-2023 season(s) one long training camp for all the newer guys.
With that said….there is always something to keep me entertained with every game.
I watch each week with amusement until this team is serious again about being competitive.
When my ‘waiting period’ is over (started 2016)
Waiting period = until all the disease is out of the building
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I have written on occasion in the off season that i don’t doubt Loves skillset physically, he can spin the ball on a rope, he has the arm strength.
You don’t get drafted in the first round without some throwing skills.
But he had two flaws (so far)
1) Accuracy
2) Handling the pressure
The first two games to me anyway, were the winnable games, Bottom ranked teams in overall defense, and in scoring defense. It was almost like Green Bay got to hand pick their first two opponents.
So when i see his passer rating over 100 in both those games, i wasn’t shocked, that was great for his confidence.
But he still wasn’t tested because he had clean pockets overall, for both games.
Then they played two teams that are capable of providing some pressure, then the line, and Love are going to be tested.
Well, we saw what happened to the line with our left side out, and the last two games Loves passer rating were in the 60’s
So as predicted, he didn’t handle pressure well, as we saw against the Chiefs in 2021 when he again, had a passer rating in the 60’s. He was only sacked once in that game, but he was hit 7 times, and hurried more than that.
This is why i said, we won’t know about Love until after a full season, maybe even into next season depending on his development and intangibles.
Not 8 games as lettuce head Murphy told us.
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Concerning Ryhan….
ANYTHING, that is said, players that are crowned, praised, whatever……in the off season, or in pre-season should be taken with a grain of salt. It’s 95% off season hope/fan hype usually.
Which is fine if people want to drink the kool aid and feel all warm and fuzzy, that’s cool.
But for me, i know better.
I know there is a huge difference between practicing in shorts, 11 on 11’s, even pre-season…..they are not remotely close to replicating real game action, where then, and only then, can you judge a players progress, potential, and skillset.
Always enjoy reading your comments Mitch.
We appreciate you.
PF4L
I just posted a comment .now its awaiting moderation
Because i wrote b and s….together….lol
Are you f ling kidding me? lol
I can write worse than that down the hall without moderation.
What happened to this place?
George Carlin’s 7 words (and then some) you can’t use on Total Packers?
Fire everyone and gut the roster over one game! No over reaction there. But tell us what you really think ladies!
This season has always been about Jordan Love and if he’s he the answer going forward. If the answer is yes, then everything else takes care of itself.
Here’s what we know about Jordan Love after 4 games. He can make plays and he can read defenses. Which is more than you can say for Justin Fields, Zach Wilson, and Trey Lance. He likes to throw the deep ball and intermediate routes. Which he’s actually pretty good at but tend to have lower completion percentages. Right now, at the start of games he looks like a QB that hasn’t played in three years. Once he gets going he plays much better.
Matt LaFleur needs to do a better job scripting plays to start the game. Short drops, quick throws, easy completions to help get his young QB in a groove early. Get his young offense’s confidence up. Then he can take his shots down field. This is fixable. We’ve seen him do it. He just has to get going faster.
This game reminded me of the opener against the Saints down in Jacksonville a couple of years ago when no one showed up for that one. Everyone was talking the same nonsense then. Drama, drama, drama.
Love is a big part of this season, but it isn’t just about him. There are 21 other starting positions, plus core special teamers. I think we can say Rashan Gary, Kenny Clark, Jaire, Elgton Jenkins are the only guys that have solidly written themselves in as long term (4+ year)starters/contributors going forward. Other guys that are close to that would Jon Runyon, Zach Tom, Rasul Douglas, Romeo Doubs, maybe Chriatian Watson if he cam stay healthy. Then as far as I am concerned, none of the other players have shown themselves to be bona-fide long term guys on the team. Sure other guys have flashed, I feel good about guys like Jayden Reed, but I want to see more production than just during a rookie year, and being able to avoid a sophomore slump
“This season has always been about Jordan Love and if he’s he the answer going forward. If the answer is yes, then everything else takes care of itself.”
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So as long as Love is a decent QB everything will take care of itself? The O-line will magically get fixed, rookie pass catchers are guaranteed to be the second coming of whatever all pro WR, and the defense will finally start to reflect the resources that have been dumped into it all because of Jordan Love? I guess Matt Ryan, Phillip Rivers, and Dan Marino didn’t get that memo. As long as the QB does well everything takes care of itself.
“Matt LaFleur needs to do a better job scripting plays to start the game.”
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LOL, if only Matt LaFleur would run Matt LaFleur’s offense! Doesn’t he know that Matt LaFleur’s offense is the answer to everything! Maybe Rodgers is hijacking Jordan Love’s earpiece and calling audibles so no one will ever truly know the magnificence of Matt LaFleur’s offense.
“This game reminded me of the opener against the Saints down in Jacksonville a couple of years ago when no one showed up for that one. Everyone was talking the same nonsense then. Drama, drama, drama.”
By everyone, do you mean how YOU were talking nonsense about how it was all Rodgers fault and that he was washed up despite going on to win the MVP. Meanwhile, Brady and the Buc’s lost to the same Saints team by the SAME EXACT score and you found it a complete non-issue for your lover boy. Now the Packers have a bad game with Love and you call people’s reaction to it nonsense and drama. You’re such a Flip Flop 🤡
First two paragraphs can be summed up in two words.
‘Tommi Logic’
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As far as the rest of Cheese comments. LOL 🤪
What is wrong with the offensive line? Relative to league average, they are better. They are out their two best OL, and the next best was playing with an injury. They weren’t perfect when healthy, I am not a fan of Meyers, but the rest of the line is above league average, at least the preferred starters.
Kato, you just answered your own question.
“What is wrong with the offensive line?”
“They are out their two best OL, and the next best was playing with an injury. They weren’t perfect when healthy”
When 3 out of 5 lineman are playing injured or can’t even get on the field you have a problem. They looked like hot garbage on Thursday. Dillon was getting tackled the second he got the ball.
Matt Ryan and Dan Marino went to a SB and were perineal playoff contenders for their respective teams. Philip Rivers always had the Chargers in playoff contention. That’s what a franchise QB can do for your organization.
Did you watch the game last night Cheese? The New York Jets had the better roster. The Kansas City Chiefs had the better QB. The better QB almost always trumps everything else.
When your OL is devastated by injuries your play calling must adapt accordingly. Brock Purdy is making a career out of short quick throws. Matt LaFleur would be wise to do the same to prevent a slow start for his young QB and take some pressure off his banged up OL. You don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. You do have to adjust on the fly. It’s called coaching.
The squeeze was no longer worth the juice with Aaron Rodgers. If he could just play QB, but it was the ensuing dog and pony show that became a part of every season and it became a distraction. It was time to move on.
Oooo, three “perineal” (lol) playoff contenders but not a single Super Bowl victory. I guess everything didn’t just take care of itself. There’s more to football than just the QB.
No I didn’t watch the Jets game because I’m not a Jets fan. Let me guess, you heard Rodgers was gonna be in New York and you wanted something to whine about. I also heard that there was several bogus calls on part of the refs and the Chiefs only beat Zach Wilson by 3 points.
“Matt LaFleur would be wise to do the same to prevent a slow start for his young QB and take some pressure off his banged up OL.” “It’s called coaching.”
Maybe you should call Matt LaFleur up and tell him how to run the Matt LaFleur offense. I hear there are no flaws in it whatsoever and clearly you know how to run it better than he does. In fact, you know it so well that you can decipher what plays are specifically from the LaFleur offense and what plays are audibles made by litte Erin. Here’s the formula: if it is successful it is part of the LaFleur offense. If it is not successful it is because Erin selfishly audibled into a terrible play.
Who created that distraction, Tom? If Gute didn’t like it he should have traded Rodgers when he traded up to draft a back up QB to sit the bench for three years. Or before he gave him the biggest contract in the league.
So now it’s Brian Gutekunst’s fault for Aaron Rodgers bad behavior? That’s like saying it’s my fault because you and Kevin say stupid things.
There’s nothing wrong with this team that getting healthy and getting Jordan Love to play consistently won’t fix. Nothing! So save your Dan Marino/Matt Ryan analogies.
“Maybe you should call Matt LaFleur up and tell him how to run the Matt LaFleur offense” – YES
I swear to flipping God, i thought the same thing when i read his dribble…lmao
Just like i used to tell him to go to Green Bay and work with Rodgers and show him how to be a better NFL QB!!
Bwhahahahahaha
“perineal”
Perineal tears during childbirth
Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists
Your perineum is the area between your vaginal opening and back passage (anus).
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There is a constant stream of entertainment in here, we appreciate your contributions Princess.
But not to worry Tommi, rest assured…we are laughing at you, not with you.
Your perineum is the area between your kitty opening and back passage
Keep up the good work my friend.
Again?
F U
Glad your here Flip Flop.
So….Which one are you going with these days?
1) Fields is a franchise QB
2) Fields isn’t a very good QB
Pick one and stick with it Flip Flop.
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The season isn’t just about Jordan Love, Flip Flop.
It’s also about how the defense looks with 8 1st round picks
It’s also about running MLF’s offense, without some idiot that whips him the bird and runs the offense his way. What say you Flip Flop?
Just curious about something else Flip Flop….
How come if Rodgers misses an open receiver, he’s a POS you can’t stop obsessing over, but when Love misses open receivers you don’t bring it up at all?
This is Loves 4th season, the honeymoon is over, it’s judgement time this season.
“Here’s what we know about Jordan Love after 4 games. He can make plays and he can read defenses” – Flip Flop
Excuse me…..
Here’s what we know about Jordan Love after his 5 starts.
If he plays teams with no pass rush, he’s fine.
Still off target passes, but he’s fine.
When he plays teams with a pass rush, he’s not fine and in each of those 3 games had a passer rating in the 60’s.
What say you Flip Flop?
(Just for clarification, if you didn’t know Flip Flop, 60’s….ain’t good.
And please, for the love of God… don’t respond to that question by deflecting, and telling us that Royce Newman is a 10 year starter.
BRILLIANT!!
Sooo smart 🤣
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Ok..what’s next?
“Matt LaFleur needs to do a better job scripting plays to start the game.” Flip Flop
It’s Matt’s fault!!
Fix it Matt!!
Where is McCarthy when you need him!!??
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Lastly…i notice you mentioned Zach Wilson as if he has no skills….
So i just wanted to clarify……
In a few weeks, you aren’t going to tell us Ladies that Zach Wilson is a franchise QB are you?
Or that the Jets are a “team on the rise”.
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Bwahahahaha……..
Just because….
Since Flip Flip mentioned that Fields was a franchise QB and the bears team was “on the rise”…….
The Bears have since lost, 13 games in a row.
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Nothing beats this place for free entertainment 😜
Thanks for all that you do Flip Flop 😏
Tune in tomorrow as we discuss how Royce Newman, could still be….a 10 year starter!! 👍
Screw it…lets discuss it now…..
Flip Flip….do you think Newman could still be a 10 year starter despite his PFF grade this season of 46.1?
His grade is that high? Must be halfway decent run blocker because his pass block grade has to be below 30
Run blockers are easier to find than pass pro guys.
It’s the ones who can do both well that teams covet.
I don’t know who put together the offensive game plan, but it sucked. You have a young QB. You have a injured and depleted offensive line. Your QB is young and appears to start out more hyped at home than away. The first thought is you drop back and pass with no sign of trying to run against a fairly good front 4? Crazy. The lions held the chiefs in check in the opener, and the Chiefs have a very good offensive line.
Some say you can pass to set up the run. I believe you run to set up the pass. Draw up the defense and then go over the top. In addition if you show you are going to run the ball even if you only gain 1,2,3 or 4 yards a carry it helps the offensive line in pass pro.
The Packers need to be running the ball around 30 carries a game to help in pass protection. In the two losses the Packers didn’t come close. I don’t care if the team gains 100 yards or less on 30 carries. It helps the offensive line in their pass protection.
The defensive game plan usually always sucks when the opponent has a competent QB and a solid run game. It won’t change until the D coordinator is gone and a base 4-3 defense can be installed.
Also…sometimes having the youngest tight ends and wr’s in the league doesn’t help the situation.
But apparently, that was ‘the plan’.
Spot on Howard. Early on we saw empty backfields. Although I give great credit to Love for going through his reads, LaFleur wasn’t doing him any favors by making him read 3 routes before taking the check down at which point he was in duress. LaFleur just doesn’t seem to scheme well against teams with a lot of pressure and he’s very slow to adjust.
Is that why Rodgers refused to run MLF’s offense?
I don’t know 😃, i’m just spitballing here because it’s fun!! 😜
Remember when the Packers didn’t run the ball as much as they should have last year because Rodgers deviously audibled out of all of Matt LaFleur’s game winning play calls? Good thing that is over. Without Rodgers’ selfish pass play audibles Jones and Dillon stampeded to a combined 10 carries for 29 yards last week. Five carries apiece! This run game is really roaring without Rodgers hanging around to mess it all up.
I don’t know how this current team isn’t 4-0 right now. I was told that they were going to be way better when they had a QB who would truly run Matt LaFleur’s offense the way it was meant to be run.
I don’t know everything, but i know why this team isn’t 1-3 right now, a missed field goal.
But they are 2-2, against teams with a combined winning percentage of .400
8 first round draft picks on defense. Jordan Love, Aaron Jones, Quadzilla, Luke Musgrave (Travis Kelsey) Christian Watson (Randy Moss) Romeo Doubs (Jerry Rice).
Expert play caller running his own show…finally
.500….Not bad.
Again, as i’ve said for years, decades….this game is won or lost usually at the line of scrimmage.
See Packers/Bucs NFCCG.
With assists from King and Amos.
The last 2 days of comments might be the most entertaining stuff i’ve read in a here in a long time.
Thank you 😉
My post responding to mitch a day ago is still under moderation review, for combining the letters b and s.
I’m a baaaaad man!! 😁
I doubt that it is coming back. It’s floating around out in the ether along with mine from over a week ago never to be seen again.
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Might be best to just try again.
I just got cracked again for combining he and ll.
Really JP?
We went from freedom of speech to, you have to be a born again church choir boy in here.
MONTY!!!!!!!!!
Tommi….what did you do?
For the NFL purist..,…
Random….
Josh Allen had a perfect passer rating, laying the wood down against Miami…impressive.
The defense having 4 sacks and 9 QB hits didn’t hurt either.
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Justin Fields had a very respectable game.
The Bears now lost 14 in a row.
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Packers/Lions Tilt…
Wait…whut?
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Ravens/Browns Tilt…
Don’t much care other than to say it doesn’t look like OBJ is giving a great return on investment. Who could have seen that coming?
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Vikings/Panthers, again, who cares.
SKOL!
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Bucs/Saints…
Mayfield, still trying to get somebody to believe he belongs in the NFL.
Bucs roll, Mayfield looks competent.
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Bengals/Titans…
What the hell happened to Cincy?
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Redskins/Eagles….
Eagles keep flying
Moderation…AGAIN?
For writing he ll?
wtf is going on here???????
F this place, i’ll come back when you fix this sh……………….it.
Wasting my f….ing time here
See ya down the hall 😬
It would be nice if the Packer offense was better in the first half of games. This year so far they are 27-10 in point differential in the first quarter, and 32-13 in the second quarter. It doesn’t help that Love has been 9-27 completion in the first quarter, pretty hard to score points when the qb only completes 37% of his passes, no other qb is below 50% in the first quarter. Defenses are going to stack the box and dare Love to beat them, and more often than not he most likely won’t be able to do that, as he has accuracy issues, which was the knock on him coming out of college.
math error 9-27 is 33.7%
Try and expand your feeble little minds. This goes well beyond this season. I’d gladly go 7-10 this year to know we have a franchise QB going forward. We’re going to need one if we’re to remain competitive for the next decade and beyond. The Lions are for real and the Bears are ahead of the class in the Caleb Williams sweepstakes. The NFC north won’t be the pushover division it was for Aaron Rodgers. We need a young franchise QB and we need one now. Not when some old, one legged, washed up, diva decides to walk away. Things change very quickly in the NFL. That’s why you need a GM with vision. But you girls wouldn’t know anything about that.
I don’t know what you ladies see. But I see a young, talented, QB that makes plays. His only knock, and it’s a significant one, is consistency. He’s got 13 games to figure it all out or the team goes in another direction. I’m confident he will. This team plays better when the QB plays better. AJ Dillion, Royce Newman, Kevin King or any other player doesn’t move the needle as much as the QB. He leads. He makes plays. Get that fixed and everything else will take care of itself. What you ladies are doing is just making noise. Telling each other the sky is falling while clutching your pearls.
PF4L 21 hours ago
I just got cracked again for combining he and ll.
Really JP?
We went from freedom of speech to, you have to be a born again church choir boy in here.
MONTY!!!!!!!!!
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PF4L 21 hours ago
Tommi….what did you do?
https://twitter.com/kent_swanson/status/1708879575252455797?t=s0O_YRm7pKSUQrALtShonw&s=19
This is chiefs Twitter in response to Mahomes having some issues. Just saying, it might be ok to have some patience with Love. But, I think it might have been PF4L previously, I don’t save everyone’s replies, at all actually. But the Packers probably didn’t put Love in the best position to succeed. It also goes to show that having a consistent winning team is hard, even with an all world QB. The chiefs have been successful and have one of the best coaches out there. These guys also get paid millions of dollars to build and coach teams, and also players are millionaires on other teams. The league is built for parity.
Like I predicted prior to the season, both the offensive line and defense would look much worse with Love. Offensive lines perform well when they’re protecting some dude they respect and while they respect Love, it’s not to extent they respected Rodgers. I wonder too if Love should have changed some of those early plays to runs, helping out his offensive line. As for defense, when your offense can’t get anything going, every defense is going to look bad. You can’t do absolutely nothing for half a game and thing your defense will bail you out.
I’ll respond in the most G rated fashion i can muster…..
Kato..,…
It’s true that the league is built for parity.
But parity doesn’t guarantee a team a winning franchise in itself.
Any NFL team has a chance to succeed when compared to MLB, and the NBA, generally speaking. Especially MLB
With that said, you always have the same common denominator when it comes to losing teams.
They are not well run, whether it’s the Davis’s, the Haslett’s, the McCaskey’s, the Ford’s, the 70 and 80’s Packers, etc.
THANK GOD for Bob Harlan hiring Ron Wolf.
Imagine if you will, that Wolf never got hired in ’91, it’s hard to imagine or think about what would have became of the Packers in subsequent decades after the 80’s.
This is in part, why i have so much respect for Ron Wolf.
Some say that Favre, and/or Reggie revived the Packers, i absolutely cringe when i hear that nonsense.
Favre/White was a part of it for sure, but without Wolf, there is no Favre or White, or a complete changing of the losing culture that enveloped the Green Bay Packers.
Ron Wolf re-built that NFL franchise, from the ground up.
Some history of the NFL may not have come to fruition without Wolfs hand.
Favre may never have been Favre, as we know him.
He could have partied his way out of the league in Atlanta, you never know.
Rodgers might have slid to the beginning of the 2nd round to some bottom feeder team.
I’m just saying, you never know what might have happened to those two HOF’ers.
Just not sure they are HOF QB’s in different situations.
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Deep….
I’d like to think an offensive line would play the same no matter who is the QB at this level.
They don’t want to look bad, or exposed that they are the weal link.
I have no idea what’s going on with Bakhtiari’s knee, but plenty of players come back and play just fine after a torn ACL, Like AP, like when Jordy came back and led the NFL in TD catches the season after his surgery.
I understand he had another surgery, but i can’t help but think there is some drama going on between Bakh and Packer brass.
It’s just my guess and i’m wrong sometimes, just not very often.
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The Packers tried to get Wolf when Parins was running the show prior to Harlan. Wolf asked Parins “who is in charge” and Parins, who was a judge, said “Me”. Wolf declined. Harlan specifically told Wolf that he is in charge. But the more I think about it, you also have to include other factors for the Packers success, the Bears and Giants allowing revenue sharing, huge TV contracts after the 87 strike, etc. After the NFL settled the labor disputes, the Packers could afford to hire more professionals.
I meant Parins told Wolf he was in charge.
Judge Parins was more the problem than the solution. after he retired he admitted he didn’t know a thing about NFL football.
Strikes, Bears, Giants aside, is not the point i was making…….
Ron Wolf was the catalyst and the engineer of change in Green Bay.
BTW…Wolf told Harlan he wouldn’t accept the job unless he had full authority over football operations.
My best guess is Wolf knew the shortcomings of Packer Management and he wasn’t going to play that losing game.
Read…The Packer Way…by Ron Wolf.
If this is the way you girls are going to react after every loss, it’s going to be a long season. The Detroit Lions are farther along in their roster development, have a veteran QB, are are relatively healthy. Good for them. Things can change rather quickly in the NFL. We’ll get another shot at them on thanksgiving. We out scored Detroit 17-7 in the second half. Why? Because Jordan Love played significantly better in the second half. It’s all about the QB. We get Jordan Love going early, and for four quarters, this team can play with anyone.
We’re still 2-2 after four games. This was always going to be a process with Jordan Love and a young team. But if it makes you ladies feel better blaming Sean Rhyan, then panic. It’s what you idiots do best. That and quote Aaron Rodgers stats.
This season is like all the others season to me since 2015…entertaining in it’s own way
Things can change quickly in the NFL.
Well, i’ve been waiting for change for 8 seasons.
Not quite as long as you’ve been looking for the vikings to win a Super Bowl.
So we’re both here, waiting out yet another losing year.
SKOL!!
” We out scored Detroit 17-7 in the second half” – lettuce head
YAY…17-7 in the 2nd half you say?
Nice!!…..Where’s our trophy!?!?
Just because……it’s fun
ESPN Fantasy Projection: Marquez Valdes-Scantling is back with the Chiefs after a modest first season with the club. Since he was drafted in 2008, “MVS” has the highest aDOT (15.4) and lowest catch rate (50.8%) among 140 players with 200-plus targets.
Somebody needs to tell ESPN that real men don’t use stats.
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Not to disappoint, after 4 games this season, MVS is paying off again for the Chiefs.
His 26 yards a game and 0 TD’s are keeping Def. Coordinators up at night.
Like last season, when his 2 TD passes helped catapult the Chiefs to the SB.
Quite the bargain…what say you Flip Flop?
Seriously, again?
What word was off limits JP?
‘helped’ ‘Quite’ ‘keeping’ ‘season’?
What’s the bad word?
Who did you cry to Tommi?
Kevin, if you weren’t constantly quoting me you’d have nothing to say! With no Aaron Rodgers stats to dazzle the masses, I’ve become your new hero. Let’s not make Cheese jealous. You two were made for each other….
22 hours ago
Who did you cry to Tommi?
Chase Claypool is about to be released by Chicago. Claypool along with other such luminaries as Denzel Mims, DJ Hamler, and Patrick Queen were available to Brian Gutekunst with the 26th pick in the 2020 draft. Realizing there was nothing special about any of these remaining players. Brian Gutekunst decided to draft a developmental QB who might one day be special himself. Jordan Love. And while it’s yet to be determined if Love is special. Gutekunst has already shown us he was a risk worth taking. He didn’t pass on any player that would have been a real difference maker. And he may have found his QB of the future.
That’s what I want from my GM. Know when to take risks. Even when it’s unpopular with a bunch of clueless, no nothing, fanboys who worship a fading diva.
Yes, give up on a team that was one game away from the Super Bowl, draft a QB to sit on the bench for 3 years and give up the $ value of having a first round rookie QB. Then handing over an absurd amount of money to a veteran QB who you wanted to get rid of. Gee, I guess that’s what we all should want in our GM.
Live the fantasy Arch. And just who was that one player? Name him. Tell me right now. Who was the mythical player YOU would have drafted that would have won the SB. No such player existed with the 26th pick in the 2020 draft. The blue chip players were all gone.
This is the problem with you ladies and you’re one player away nonsense. You can never name the player. You’re sure it’s a WR and that was all we needed but you can’t name him.
The other retarded argument is we paid Rodgers too much money. If you don’t draft Jordan Love, who’s your QB right now? Danny Etling? Please. You don’t have money to pay for a backup and drafting a QB is going to upset Rodgers. And you girls don’t want to upset Rodgers. You all worship him. With you ladies running the team, after the Achilles injury, we’ve now got Danny Etling throwing passes to Chase Claypool. Let that sink in. And don’t kid yourself. You’re all Aaron Rodgers fanboys. You’d have given Rodgers whatever he wanted so he would stay. Money didn’t stop Gutekunst from trading Rodgers. That’s no argument.
Aaron Rodgers is no Tom Brady. He isn’t playing until he’s 45. He’s an old man with a major injury just waiting to happen. It did. We’re fortunate we have a GM that doesn’t think like the rest of you idiots. Otherwise we’d be screwed right now.
In the 2017 draft, Ted (RIP), while busy mouth breathing and gazing intently up into the ceiling tiles.
Gute, in all of wisdom, decided to trade out of the first round of the 2017 draft figuring that T.J. Watt picked 30th and Ryan Ramczyk picked 32nd were hardly worth noticing, they weren’t even worth looking at citing the fact he wouldn’t drive to Madison to go scout them.
I mean, that’s almost 2 hours away, Gute, i’m sure had better things to do than scout talent that far away.
I mean…..who knew. right?
Disregard all the awards, Pro Bowl acknowledgements and ALL PRO votes those two players got.
Don’t read anything into that, they give those things out to anyone.
In the end…it paid off big dividends for Gute, with the 33rd pick of the draft, he hand selected Kevin King.
Is that all?
OH NOOOOOOOOO!!!!
By trading down 4 spots, he got an additional 4th round pick, where he wasted no time adding the talents of Vince Biegel.
Talk about stackin a roster!!!
Currently, King and Biegel are penning their business plan on opening their own Tire and Auto Center.
Crazy right?
I don’t think so….Gute has a plan
” Gutekunst has already shown us he was a risk worth taking. He didn’t pass on any player that would have been a real difference maker.” – Barney
Gute is too smart to pass on difference makers, or to trade up for one of the many difference making wr’s.
When you can spend 2 draft choices to draft a guy to sit on the bench for 3 years, you go for it!!!
Who knows, maybe that 1st round draft pick you had sit on the bench for 3 years, may someday in his 4th year or more, turn into the next Brock Purdy, the 7th round pick, who played well his rookie season.
What say you Tommi?
How many SB’s did TJ Watt and Big Ben go to Kevin? How about Justin Jefferson and Kirk Cousins? Oh, but they didn’t have the “best QB ever!” Big Ben went to more SB’s than Aaron Rodgers. While Rodgers is no better than .500 against Kirk Cousins. There’s absolutely no evidence they would have been enough to make a difference when your star QB habitually chokes in the playoffs…..
Who knows, maybe that 1st round draft pick you had sit on the bench for 3 years, may someday in his 4th year or more, turn into the next Brock Purdy, the 7th round pick, who played well his rookie season.
What say you Tommi?
Tom M 2 months ago
Another strong performance by Jordan Love. He keeps this up and he may be the next Brock Purdy.
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PF4L 2 months ago
Oh man!!…how cool would that be?
Do you mean to tell me that maybe Gute’s 1st round pick Jordan Love can someday be as good as the 49ers 7th round pick?
WOW….NICE!!
Tommi’s right…you don’t win Super Bowls choking in big games.
I remember when Big Ben was in his first Super Bowl….
He went 9/21 for 123 yards, with 0 TD’s, and 2 interceptions.
With an outstanding passer rating of 22.6
Big Ben WON that Super Bowl.
Because QB’s win Super Bowls, not teams.
TOMMI LOGIC
BLAST FROM THE PASS…
In a article titled ‘Maybe it’s Time The Packers Unleash Jeff Janis’
PF4L 6 years ago
I’ve seen Hundley play. Sure, he could end up playing a little better, probably will, maybe even doubling his passer rating to possibly 80, who knows. With this defense, where does that get you? We just gave up 485 yards of offense, and Capers spin is that the defense played fairly well. Stop this insanity.
Is this the same QB that the Packers turned down a 2nd or 3rd round pick for? When i read that i laughed and laughed and laughed.
PF4L
04/30/2017 at 7:11 pm
If a team is going to give up a 2nd or 3rd for Hundley, take it before they change their mind.
If Rodgers gets hurt and is out for a long time, or the season, it will make no difference if we have Hundley or the Easter Bunny. Without Rodgers, the Packers go nowhere.
And yes, i know Hundley is a pre-season Hall of Famer. But if the other 31 teams thought that’s how he’d play in real games, he’d be gone already.
All this, favorite receiver stuff and he’s more comfy with the less skilled guys, etc. Means…at the end of the day, absolutely nothing. Don’t get me wrong, watching this version of the Packers without Rodgers has it’s own sick satisfaction for me. I watch these games and think about quotes McCarthy has proclaimed about himself, then i laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh, waiting for this circus to end.
Good luck with your career kid.
For the love of God….fix this f…..in place!!!
Who did you cry to Tommi?
Because stupid….can still be funny…..
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Tom M 2 months ago
Get comfortable ladies. Mark Murphy is five long years away from mandatory retirement.
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“Luke Musgrave is “going to be” a matchup nightmare. He reminds me of Tony Gonzalez as far as size and athleticism” – Goober
Is this in the same way that Royce Newman is “going to be” a 10 year starter?
Jeff Janis reminded someone of Julio Jones.
We are officially full circle…back to the “nightmare matchup” talk…lol
What took so long? 😉
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Tom M
Ted Thompson had a 12 year run as GM. Brian Gutekunst has been on the job half as long. Not the same sample size.
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Ok, here is what you are missing Nancy. Grab some paper and a pen.
In Thompson’s 1st 6 seasons what did he do Nancy?
A) Had full control of football operations from day 1. No training wheels necessary.
B) Drafted a (*PROVEN) first Ballot HOF QB
C) He built a (*PROVEN) Championship roster
D) Drafted 2 Pro Bowl offensive lineman.
E) Built a (*PROVEN) top 5 defense
D) He watched that roster win a Super Bowl with a REAL (*PROVEN) franchise QB and a REAL (*PROVEN) top defense that only gave up 15 PPG
Entering Gute’s 6th season….
A) Built a roster with the help of NFL talent evaluator Guru Mark Murphy
B) Lost two NFCCG’s
C) Traded up for a QB for the future when the current team was one game away from the Super Bowl (twice)
“Unfortunately Royce Newman never made a second year jump. He now looks no better than a journeyman guard.” – Scooter
So first, we’re told Newman is a 10 year starter (WRONG)
Then…we’re told he looks (no better) than a journeyman guard (WRONG).
It begs the question….
In whose world does Newman look like a journeyman guard?
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He looks like a 3rd stringer barely holding on to a roster spot.
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In real NFL news………..
What just happened……?
Did the Chicago Bears actually win a game??
He**s Bell’s!!….
Was Tommi right, are the Bears on the rise?
I guess winning 1 of 14, is better than being 0-15.
So in Tommi logic, yes, the bears team is on the rise.
Is Justin Fields a franchise QB, afterall?
Well…for one game, he had 4 TD passes, 0 picks, and a passer rating of 125.
So one could argue (in Tommi logic) that Fields is indeed a franchise QB.
Boy…what a difference a game makes!!
TOM M. = VINDICATED!!
Wait just a g.. d… minute here.
Does this mean that Jordan Love is now a proven franchise QB?
He had passer ratings of 123 and 113 against the powerhouse defenses of Chicago and Atlanta.
If that isn’t Tommi logic proof of a franchise QB, i don’t know what is.
TOM M. = Vindicated!!
I’ll ask you Kevin the same question I asked Arch who had no answer. Name me the WR we should have drafted at 26 in the first round of the 2020 draft that magically puts us in the SB in 2021. You can’t name that player because that player doesn’t exist. Yet not drafting a WR in the first round as reason Aaron Rodgers can’t win a SB is the nonsense that gets past around here by you idiots faster than Kevin’s sister on a Saturday night. Drafting Jordan Love was absolutely the right call.
And cut the crap. Every one of you are Aaron Rodgers fanboys. The thought of Rodgers playing elsewhere was terrifying to all of you. You’d have paid him anything, you’d have done anything to get him to stay. That means you’d have over-drafted WR’s in the first round. Because as you all like to tell each other “you can only find good WR’s in the first round!” Which is total BS. And you would have paid Rodgers whatever he wanted because of the other myth you all love to tell each other “Rodgers is the best QB ever!”
If anyone of you fine “football minds” were running the show we’d have no QB right now with the Rodgers injury. And no, camp arms Kurt Benkert and Danny Etling are not NFL QB’s. And neither is Tim Boyle. But that would be all you could afford for a back up QB because of the 60 million per season you’d have to pay Rodgers. And not one of you would have the balls to draft a QB for fear of upsetting the lady.
There’d be no Rashan Gary, Jaire Alexander, Quay Walker, or Davante Wyatt because you’d all be obsessed with drafting players to pad Rodgers absolutely meaningless stats. We’d have Chase Claypool and Denzel Mims at WR instead of Christian Watson and Romeo Doubs at WR. With none of you willing to admit Watson and Doubs are the real deal. But you girls know football. Sure you do….
Tom M 6 hours ago
I’ll ask you Kevin…….
Why is it Tommi, that you ignore and don’t answer 99 out of 100 questions posed to you in here?
But you want others to engage to your questions?
Now Tommi, have you ever found yourself wondering why people in here refer to you as the totalpacker…..C ?
HINT: There are multiple reasons
That was 3 questions Scooter.
BONUS QUESTION……
This forum will never be the same….
Who did you cry to?
Yes Goober,, Doubs is currently the real deal 38th leading receiver in the NFL
Yes, Christian Watson is currently the real deal, tied for 233rd in the NFL.
*Tied with AJ Dillon.
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Oh, i’m sorry Scooter, has Watson missed games?
Gee, i remember you telling all of us that Aaron Rodgers was “oft injured” but, I haven’t heard a peep from you about Watson.
Are you racist Tommi?
Will that word fall under moderation?…lol
(who did you cry to?)
Rodgers missed 2 games (non injury) his first 5 years starting.
Watson has missed 6 games in almost a season and a quarter.
Hmmm……
LMAO…..
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Tom M 10 hours ago
I’ll ask you Kevin the same question I asked Arch who had no answer. Name me the WR we should have drafted at 26 in the first round of the 2020 draft that magically puts us in the SB in 2021.
Sure he could have traded up for a wr like you told me he could have done, time and time again, just like he did for Love. But, the NFL didn’t allow trading up for wr’s in the 2020 draft!!
It was against the law i believe.
Did you want Gute to get arrested, do jail time?
It was against the law!!!
I just watched the beating of the drum in the chili dome against the Chiefs.
Accompanied by the Skol chant!!!….lmao
(Morons, all of them)
Sorry Tommi ☹
Then…the vikings return the opening kick off, and fumble it over to the Chiefs.
SKOL!!!
Hey Kevin! Tell us again how missing out on TJ Watt cost us a SB. That’s my favorite fairy tale told by my favorite fairy!
LOL…here’s my (all time) favorite…..
It doesn’t get any better than this Scooter…
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Tom M 2 months ago
Another strong performance by Jordan Love. He keeps this up and he may be the next Brock Purdy.
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For those not familiar, Brock Purdy was the 7th round, and last draft pick of the 2022 draft.
Starting in his rookie season, Purdy is currently 10-0 as a starting QB
Because not all 7th round draft picks need to sit 3 years to gain some confidence..
Oh shoot, i’m sorry Tommi.
Missing out on T.J.Watt cost us a 3x first team ALL PRO playmaker, but……..on the other hand, we did get Kevin King, so there is that.
I think i might have seen him today working at Menards.
Tune in tomorrow folks when we get educated and entertained on how successful McCarthy is without Rodgers. 👍🤪
I’m still waiting for you and Arch to tell me who the WR in the 2020 draft Brian Gutekunst passed on that prevented Aaron Rodgers from winning a SB. At least Arch has the good sense to keep quiet while your diarrhea of the mouth never stops.
You give Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady Davante Adams, Aaron Jones and a top ten OL and they win you a SB. We know this because they’ve won the big game with a lot less. With Aaron Rodgers you get a multitude of constant, ridiculous excuses. Each one more outrageous than the last.
Kevin currently is peddling the TJ Watt excuse because he can’t name the WR that was the difference maker at pick 26 in the 2020 draft. TJ Watt didn’t win a SB for Big Ben and he wouldn’t for Aaron Rodgers. Gutekunst went out and signed ZaDarius Smith and Preston Smith who had stats equal to or better than TJ Watt and it still didn’t prevent Rodgers from choking in the playoffs.
As far as McCarthy, I’ll say this. Mike Holmgren never beat Dallas. It took Carolina to knock them off in the playoffs for us to get us to the SB. That doesn’t take away anything that Mike Holmgren accomplished in the time he was HC of the Packers. The 49ers match up extremely well against the Cowboys and are one of the top three teams in the NFL. That doesn’t take away from McCarthy turning that organization around. You’ll always have limitations with Zack Prescott at QB. Just as any coach would have limitations with Aaron Rodgers in the playoffs.
LOL,so entertaining….you get comfortable waiting lettuce head, it will be awhile.🙄
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WOW..LOL
It’s Dak Prescott , not Zack Prescott,
It’s understandable Goober, not much difference between Zach Wilson and Dak Prescott…lol
^This is your brain on drugs^
JUST SAY NO!!
STAY IN SCHOOL KIDS!!
SKOL!!
“Gutekunst went out and signed ZaDarius Smith and Preston Smith who had stats equal to or better than TJ Watt” – Bwhahahahaha
“As far as McCarthy, I’ll say this. Mike Holmgren never beat Dallas.” – peanut brain
As if Holmgren has anything to do with this….lol
Yes, Holmgren lost to Dallas in the early 90’s when the Packers were just starting to build a Championship roster while changing the culture in Green Bay, when Dallas ready to win, already having a Championship roster.
This proves what with McCarthy?
That’s right Scooter….it proves nothing.
What do we know about McCarthy?
We know he never beat Dallas….without Aaron Rodgers.
You keep on, keeping on poindexter.
Keep on entertaining us.
I find it funny that Tom tries to reason that because the Steelers never won a Super Bowl with TJ Watt that somehow justifies the Packers not selecting him in the draft. As if arguably the best defensive player in the league couldn’t have helped this team do better. That’s like saying because Reggie White never won a Super Bowl in Philly there’s no way he could have made a difference and helped GB win a Super Bowl. Imagine picking up the equivalent of Kevin King in 1993 instead of Reggie White. Imagine where this team would be right now…
Dat dare is what we’s calls ‘Tommi Logic’
Dats like sayins…..Why not spend 2 draft choices, so Jordan Love can sit on the bench for 3 years, it’s not like anyone you drafted with those two picks could have helped the team on the field. DERP
Plus, as a bonus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!……
You can then say (later during Loves 4th season)….”IF Jordan Love becomes a franchise QB someday, it was worth it!!!”
TRANSLATION…..
TOMMI LOGIC ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
SKOL!!
“Another strong performance by Jordan Love. He keeps this up and he may be the next Brock Purdy.” – Lettuce head
Translation….
TOMMI LOGIC ¯\_(ツ)_/¯