Green Bay Packers Training Camp: A Struggling Offense and Rising Stars
The Green Bay Packers’ offense is facing a challenging time during their training camp, losing consistently to the defense in competitive periods. The team’s new starting quarterback, Jordan Love, has had a particularly difficult time, with his passing accuracy hovering around 50 percent. Despite a promising start, Love’s performance in the red zone was disappointing, and a 2-minute drill ended with no progress.
However, the training camp has also seen some players shine. Devonte Wyatt, a former first-round pick, has been showing his potential on the defensive line, impressing with his strength and strategic play. Rookie running back Lew Nichols also had a notable day, demonstrating his running skills with a big gain and a stiff-arm for additional yards.
In terms of injuries, left tackle David Bakhtiari exited after the first play of a two-play, end-of-game sequence. His health will be closely monitored, as his presence significantly strengthens the team’s offense.
There were also some significant developments in the lineup. Zach Tom took some first-team snaps at center ahead of Josh Myers, and first-round pick Lukas Van Ness joined Preston Smith as the No. 1 pair of outside linebackers.
The Packers will take a break on Wednesday before resuming their training camp on Thursday. They will then hold their annual Family Night practice on Saturday night before heading to Cincinnati for a joint practice and preseason game against the Bengals.
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Yea…see….this is where people lose me.
Declaring how good players look in camp.
Much of it has been in shorts, no contact.
I mean..really?
They just recently put pads on and they are now allowed to have contact, albeit on a limited basis.
My point being, even with contact, it’s night and day from the regular games.
See…the regular games is where improvement is shown, not in shorts and no contact, not wearing a red shirt.
Optimism and HOPE….i get it.
Drink the kool aid, enjoy.
I’ll wait a month or so and see what’s happening at that point.
Training camp is kind of like pre draft for fans.
Concerning the draft…You can wish and hope they land a player, or trade up to get player X.
You can talk for hours, days or even weeks what you hope for from the draft.
Then the teams pick and that’s the reality set before you.
The same with training camp and playing real games.
What happens in training camp or pre-season (besides injuries), is mere fodder.
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It doesn’t take a genius to figure that first round pick Devonte Wyatt is going to get more snaps, Lowry, Reed, and Lancaster are gone.
Personally…I have more faith in Wyatt than i do in the Packers other first round pick In Walker.
I just hope between the two of them they can maybe have 1/2 a brain this season.
The DL is more physical than the mental aspect of linebacker where Walker was not instinctive at all and sometimes look lost.
What saves him a little is his speed to catch tacklers from behind or use the sideline to box them out…but usually not until some damage has been done.
BTW…Thanks for the Aaron Rodgers updates.
GPG!!
Congrats to Joe Thomas, newest member of the HOF.
Born and bred in Brookfield Wi. Somewhat right down the road from the Watt family in Pewaukee Wi. and a handful of miles from where i grew up.
A Badger alumni and stand out iron man left tackle for the Cleveland Browns who played 11 standout seasons earning 8 All-Pro honors and was voted to the Pro Bowl 10x plus many more awards and accomplishments to numerous to mention.
An icon on the NFL field and a stand up man off the field.
A man who decided that going fishing with his Dad and friends on Lake Michigan, was more important than the glitz of the draft.
Midwestern through and through.
Very proud.
Kevin, you used training camp to proclaim Tim Boyle and Kurt Benkert superior to Jordan Love. Benkert is out of the league and Boyle is just barely hanging on. You’re hardly above it all.
How you play in camp translates into how you play on Sunday. It matters and fans want to know. Flashes are fine but consistency is the key. It’s not surprising the defense is ahead of the offense right now as is usually the case at the beginning of camp and with a young offense. We’ll get a better gage of where we stand during Love’s extended playing time in the first couple of preseason games. That’ll be the real primer before September 10th against Chicago.
Why do you feel you have to bring up Boyle here in 2023, that was 2020 when i talked about him beating out Love (which he did).
Are you that hard up to post something?
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“How you play in camp translates into how you play on Sunday.”
LOL…yea….whatever you say buttercup…lol
Except on Sundays, in real games, where, when they go full speed, with full contact, no red skirts (oops) i meant no red shirts on.
Against other teams looking to take you out.
You watch camp right Princess, because it matters…right?
How’s Royce Newman doing…he starting yet?
Is he even competing for a starting position?
Has anyone even mentioned his name?
MORON 😮
“How you play in camp translates into how you play on Sunday.” – NFL Guru
Yea, it’s the same thing cheese tits.
Jordan Love is 0-5 against the defense in camp
“How you play in camp translates into how you play on Sunday.” – Princess
So tell me Goober….what is your prediction for Packer wins this season?
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” We’ll get a better gage of where…….” – Princess
Kids…Stay in School!!
SKOL!!
You can’t have it both ways Kevin. You can’t say anything positive coming out of camp is meaningless then point to the fact the offense is 0-5 against the defense as if that’s a harbinger of things to come. That’s called cherry picking but you do it with Erin’s stats constantly.
He’s what we know. The Kyle Shanahan/Sean McVey offense works. It made SB QB’s out of Jared Goff, Jimmy Garappolo, and Matthew Stafford. And it damn near made one out of Brock Purdy. Not what you would consider NFL elite. So tell me ladies, why can’t it make an NFL QB out of Jordan Love? It can’t because you don’t like him? Is that the answer? Because that’s bullshit. Or is it because the WR’s are too young? That’s also bullshit. Or the tired and true answer. We don’t like Gutekunst and Murphy because they finally had the balls to tell Rodgers enough already. None of you want this team to succeed cuz you’re still butt hurt your boy got traded. He needed to go. We needed a fresh start. It’s time to get behind the team of go be a Jet groupie. The choice is yours.
Jordan Love is 0-5 against the defense in camp
“How you play in camp translates into how you play on Sunday.” – Princess
So tell me Goober….what is your prediction for Packer wins this season?
What team do you want to be a fan of this year Barney?
You could be a viking fan again, or you could keep pretending you’re a Packer fan, or you could go back to being a Patriots fan, you have 32 choices Princess.
The choice is yours.
SKOL!!
In other news, Mark Murphy has been named as a defendant in the Northwestern lawsuit. Now, besides many Packer fans, Mark Murphy has attorneys advising him to keep his mouth shut and not talk to the press.
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I could just see Murphy opening his yap, “I didn’t know anything about a watermelon eating contest. I thought we were still doing that nookie cookie thing. Or was that just for the hockey program?”
Yea..lol, almost. If i may….
“I didn’t know anything about a watermelon eating contest. I thought we were still doing that nookie cookie thing. Or was that just for the hockey program?” (Chuckle chuckle)
Murphy is at it again….video followed by some tweet comments.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1687097195076685826
BaseballClick365
·Aug 3
Man Mark Murphy is cringey.
Travis
Aug 3
Can’t stand him.
Bakcountry
Aug 3
Can he just zip it when it comes to Rodgers? Hasn’t he done enough damage?
Jordan Grow
Aug 4
Murphy needs to retire and go sledding.
Cryptic
Aug 4
Packer fans hate this dude.
ZEUS
@zeusmarko
Sour Grapes…And Low Class…Sad.
JDub🧀🏈
Aug 3
I hate this mf.
Sal 🇺🇸
Aug 3
This geriatric needs to stop opening his mouth
So i’m watching Family night, and Larry Mcfinger tells us he’s been watching Love in camp, and Jordan Love has a complete tool set, that he lacks nothing, he can do it all.
I’m not real sure how he could say that not going against any competition.
Lets revisit this down the road sometime.
I see the team playing 11 on 11’s.
Are you joking me?
At the snap the lineman stand up instantly and almost shake each others hand.
The defensive backs just let the receivers run by.
Love “hits” Christian Watson for a TD pass, no def back is within 15 yards of him, and the crowd celebrates.
Really? That must be exciting to watch.
The defense plays like that, and most of them are wearing the foam shell on the outside for extra protection and i’m wondering…..why?
Now keep in mind, i used to watch this before the CBA’s mandated that players had to wear skirts from now on.
Larry McFinger got me. Lol.
Well there you have it ladies and gentlemen. We traded away “the best QB ever” and the offense is 0-5 against the defense to start training camp. There’s nothing left to do now but forfeit the season according to Kevin. Especially after his in-depth scouting report on family night. I saw a young talented QB moving around making plays. While Kevin will tell you he’s seen it all before and done better by Tim Boyle and Kurt Benkert. Sure you have sweetheart. It’s all about consistency with Jordan Love. The talent is obvious. Well, for most of us it is. After three years on the bench the only way you get consistent is by playing. The kid is working his ass off. I like his chances. Even if everyone else here is hoping he fails.
You were all collectively bitching about Andres Carlson because he missed a few kicks in camp. Didn’t miss many last night. But I’m sure he’s another wasted Brian Gutekunst draft pick. Luke Musgrave is going to be a matchup nightmare. He reminds me of Tony Gonzalez as far as size and athleticism. If he can stay healthy he’s going to be a big part of the offense even if it takes him a few games.
I was reading something about that hazing incident. My only question is if they’re going to complain about that, then what kind of hazing did they have to do to get into their college fraternity? That’s usually way more intense. But I didn’t play football in college. The lawsuit against Murphy will go nowhere. They have to prove that he knew it was going on and condoned it. That’s not happening. AD’s have more important things on their plate than childish pranks. But that won’t stops you girls from wanting Murphy’s head on a stick. Get comfortable ladies. Mark Murphy is five long years away from mandatory retirement.
“There’s nothing left to do now but forfeit the season according to Kevin” – Moron
Were those my twitter comments?….Moron
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“Luke Musgrave is “going to be” a matchup nightmare. He reminds me of Tony Gonzalez as far as size and athleticism” – Goober
Is this in the same way that Royce Newman is “going to be” a 10 year starter?
Jeff Janis reminded someone of Julio Jones.
We are officially full circle…back to the “nightmare matchup” talk…lol
What took so long? 😉
Tony Gonzalez?…lol
How about Musgrave plays his first snap in a NFL game first Barney.
YEA BABY!!
WOW
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“You were all collectively bitching about Andres Carlson” – Princess
I don’t recall anyone bitching about him in here.
But then again, as everyone knows, our Princess likes to tell his own fairy tales and wear pretty little dresses.
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” The lawsuit against Murphy will go nowhere. How do i know that? A) I’m an attorney and i’ve looked over the entire case….OR B)…i just talk through my ass. You make the call.” – Lead attorney Princess Patti
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“Get comfortable ladies. Mark Murphy is five long years away from mandatory retirement.” – Stanford Alumni
Grab a calculator Princess…Now, is the battery good? Ok then, lets try this little exercise shall we?
Today is Aug 6th 2023. Mark Murphy’s retirement date is July 13th 2025.
What option describes the difference in time more accurately between those two dates? (Take your time)
A) More than 1 year
B) More than 3 years
C) More than 4 years
D) Just under 2 years
E) 5 long years away
If you picked E….then lets have yet, another Public Service Announcement….
Stay in School Kids!!
If you picked D…then run upstairs and get a cookie.
It’s bad enough we have to suffer everyday fools.
But Tommi, you insist on taking it to the highest level almost everyday.
Try to do better Tommi, try to work your way up to…a little below average.
Thank you for trying to understand.
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Anything else….you’d like to ‘school’ all of us Ladies on Tom Moshier?
Poor Kevin. No more Aaron Rodgers stats to Jack off to so now he attacks me. Is there any draft pick Brian Gutekunst has made that you like? Or do you and your lady friends hate on everyone? Must everyone have a five year pro Bowl career before you deem them a success? We’ll revisit this draft class at mid season and see where everyone is headed. I know you’re not convinced Christian Watson and Romeo Doubs are players. But you and the girls are behind the curve on everything. Including when it was time to say goodbye to your boyfriend, little Erin.
You realize little Erin is so happy without you. Why he’s never had so much fun in his life. He loves New York! Rodgers is like that crazy girlfriend you breakup with. Then tells everyone that will listen how happy she is now that you dumped her. Sure she is. You two were meant for each other…..
It’s not an attack on you Princess. Don’t be so insecure.
It’s discovery in truth. Learn from it, don’t be embarrassed about it.
Tony Gonzalez
Matchup nightmare
5 long years
LOL….You kill me!!….keep entertaining me Goober
So, you admit i was right about those things i pointed out concerning your idiocy?
If so, congratulations.
So seriously, which did you pick?
A,B,C,D,E,?
TVOR
Live and let live i always say.
But i’m just curious Princess…..
Why is it whenever you bring up Rodgers (which is constantly, still.) That your thoughts you express contain the subjects of anal sex, oral sex, jacking off, etc.
Just wondering, why your mind thinks of those things all the time when your mind is consumed (owned) by Rodgers.
Is there something you’d like to tell us?
This is a safe place! 🤐
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I’ll believe this team’s success when I see it. Some of these reports from training camp remind me of last year though. For example, “The Green Bay Packers’ offense is facing a challenging time during their training camp, losing consistently to the defense in competitive periods.”
This report sounds like an inverse of the 2022 training camp reports that praised the defenses abilities to shut down the offense. But once the season began we learned that it wasn’t the amazing defense shutting down the offense, but rather the offense struggling to move the ball. So this 2023 report sounds to me like the 2023 season will unfold the same way as 2022.
Then there’s this report, “However, the training camp has also seen some players shine. Devonte Wyatt, a former first-round pick, has been showing his potential on the defensive line, impressing with his strength and strategic play.”
Yeah sure. Every year some player “shines.” And what does the rest of this report supposed to mean?
Looking at the roster itself, there’s no reason to expect improvement from 2022. The Packers will return most of the roster plus whatever rookies they acquired in the draft. I don’t believe Lukas Van Ness will receive any significant playing time this year, so his potential to improve the team is very low. And the reason I don’t believe he will play is due to the Packers handling of Rashan Gary, Wyatt, and even AJ Dillon. Gary had limited playing time during his rookie season and only had 2 sacks as a result. Wyatt also had limited playing time last year. Since Lukas Van Ness is also a lineman, and because there are already starters ahead of him, I don’t think the Packers will give him much playing time.
All of that’s well and good Joefan, but you failed to mention the horrendous QB play of Aaron Rodgers last season. He’s as much to blame for last season’s disaster as anyone. It all starts with having a young talented QB that actually wants to be here and participates in the offseason program. With every season comes challenges. It’s all about perspective. Is the glass half empty or half full?
Rashan Gary was an enormously talented, extremely raw 21 year old coming out of Michigan. He had newly signed ZaDarius and Preston ahead of him. It took time to develop his skill set. Not unlike 21 year old Jordan Love playing behind Rodgers. It’s called draft and develop and the best teams do it. How much Van Ness plays depends on his development. Wyatt shows signs of a second year jump which is encouraging. This is why you have talented players in the pipeline. While Wyatt potentially emerges, you develop Van Ness. But it you remain on the fence, that’s certainly your prerogative. Kevin and Cheese remain on the fence regarding Christian Watson and Romeo Doubs proclaiming, “we haven’t seen enough. Ok, but evidently they hadn’t seen enough to know Rodgers was down right awful last season either. It’s always everyone else’s fault.
These stories give us an indication of where certain players are in their development during camp. The signs are encouraging but if you prefer not to buy in, that’s fine. There’s certainly room in the we’re all doomed without Aaron Rodgers camp. Full of happy people.
Joefan….What Tommi is trying to say is that Rodgers had no receivers last year, not unlike Love this season, and we’re seeing the same results.
He’s so smart!! 🤣
He’s also trying to say, and proving that he can’t stop obsessing over Rodgers.
Maybe he hasn’t heard Rodgers is no longer a Green Bay Packer.
He probably has heard, but still can’t stop whining like a petulant child who refuses to get help.
MY translation…..If he wants to act like a little bitch, he’ll get treated like a little bitch (for as long as JP lets him stay here).
No matter how much he cries out….”they’re still picking on me Jason!!”
But as i predicted….Our adopted (courtesy of JP) Princess will still be crying and whining about Rodgers long after he’s gone. (Proven)
TVOR
If Love struggles and even fails, you can bet your ass it won’t be Gute’s fault, it will be Rodgers fault.
Ain’t that right Goober?
As far as the 13th overall draft pick Van Ness….he will probably be regulated to the same fate that 12th overall pick Rashan Gary got.
Becoming a bench player for 2 years.
The Packers like to make their first round picks useful by sitting them on the bench. See Devonte Wyatt, Jordan Love, Gary, Van Ness
It’s becoming quite the pattern under Gute.
Not quite sure how Walker got to start his rookie year……
Maybe they needed his intelligence out on the field to be the Mike.
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I’m thinking about doing a review of all the 1st and 2 round draft picks from 2011-2021.
Then maybe a review of Gute/Murphy draft picks from the 3-7th round.
(See if i can find any 4th or 5th round gems like Bakhtiari and Aaron Jones.)
I didn’t mention Rodgers because I don’t think he’s responsible for the Packers lack of success in 2022, although I’m well aware that you’re highly critical of him.
I remember the criticism last year regarding Rodgers skipping out on the voluntary workout programs and I still consider those criticisms baloney. In the sports world, people will find the tiniest slivers of anything and try to make up some claim that because X happened then Y happened as a result. Like how the Giants lost the wild card to the Packers in 2016 because OBJ and some guys went to Miami before the game. I don’t remember for sure but it was likely an off day for the players, so it would make no difference where they went.
Regarding Rodgers, I checked some time ago how voluntary off season programs actually work in practice. What I found is that they only allow physical practices for a couple hours per day of the program. The rest of the time the players spend in study groups or some other activity. What the NFL actually allows in these practices is very minimal. The quarterback and the receivers can run some easy drills without any contact. They can’t even wear pads or any gear except helmets. So what Rodgers skipped out on is throwing passes for a couple hours a day. And many people criticized him for skipping those camps as if those two hours a day for a week were the difference between losing and winning in the season. That’s absurd. People can criticize players for skipping those workouts, but that doesn’t mean they’re presenting a convincing argument.
I acknowledge that the “optics” of skipping off season work isn’t good. But I’m more interested in whether or not skipping some programs makes any difference between winning and losing. From what I see regarding these programs, they accomplish very little, so I’m not convinced the road to the superbowl relies on some players catching passes for two hours a day before summer.
Regarding your comments about drafting and developing. Yes, I’m glad that the Packers are forward thinking enough that they will draft guys high like Gary and Ven Ness even though they are already have starters there. In Gary’s case, he was raw too. My main point there wasn’t that the Packers were wrong to draft van ness but rather to say that I doubt he will have much impact this year due to how the Packers have been developing some of their defensive players in recent years.
1st mistake, trying to be logical with Tommi.
Tommi doesn’t live there.
Voluntary workouts are fine, the truth of the matter is Watson was injured anyway.
A season isn’t going to rise or fall on whether a QB played some catch with rookies before the season.
They have training camp and a 17 game season.
Most importantly…Rodgers didn’t let the pass catching room become void of talent. Why is that his problem?
Did someone else make that…his problem?
Last time i checked Gute is highly paid to do his job, his job being providing talent for Rodgers to work with on offense.
Look no further than Gutes failed draft picks at tight end and receivers. Not to mention the laughable jokes of signing Funchess and Watkins, or making a has been tight end the highest paid tight end in the league.
So Rodgers should alter his off season plans because Gute isn’t very good at his job?
I highly doubt it was in Rodgers contract, that he needs to help Gutekunst correct his incompetence.
It’s funny (pathetic)….the same person last season who spits on Rodgers for not working the off season with the rookie receivers, also said (repeatedly)….
“we don’t need receivers”.
Not with a top 5 elite defense….lol
Tommi logic.
So when it concerns anything Tommi says, consider the source before you attempt to engage.
(Although slapping him around is allowed…and justified).
Otherwise..it’s an exercise in futility.
The problem Joefan is Aaron Rodgers is never held accountable for anything. It’s everyone else’s fault. You’re enabling him as does everyone else here. You put Patrick Mahomes on those 13-3 teams Gutekunst built with Davante Adams and he wins you at least one SB. Ditto, Tom Brady. I understand that’s not popular but it’s true. Now on a far superior team with the “best QB ever” not one of you fanboys are boldly predicting a SB in NY. Why? Because we’ve all seen Rodgers play in the playoffs and it’s not pretty. It’s always who will be this year’s Kevin King? Who can we blame? They’ll be none of that in New York. Some guys win regular season games and other guys are just gamers and win in the playoffs. I’ll let you decide where Rodgers falls.
When you’re paid 150 million it can’t be all about ayahuasca and book clubs. It can’t be all about you. You’ve got to make more of an effort to work with your young guys and be a leader. Aaron Rodgers just wasn’t interested last year. You’ve got guys ready to “run thru walls” for Jordan Love. Why? Because he puts in the time, he puts in the work, and he doesn’t act like he’s better or smarter than everyone else.
These are my observations too. I was hoping Van Ness would flash something in preseason, but he was easily handled by 2nd and 3rd stringers. The safeties are a complete joke just like last year. I expect an uptick from Engabare, but not enough to make up for Gary’s torn ACL. So, no pass rush, receivers will be open all day down field. The Packers will like be playing from behind every game, especially given that Love, like Favre, doesn’t get his head in the game till after the first few drives fail.
So the answer is, no I’ve never liked any of Brian Gutekunst’s draft picks. And yes, little Erin can top me anytime! Got it!
TMI….
What position you prefer with Rodgers is your business.
Live and let live.
What do we hear about the development of Jordan Love Nationally?
We already heard from Mark Murphy…The defense will have to really step up this season.
Matt LaFleur….,Don’t have to high of expectations this season with Love…he’s till a work in progress, etc.
Now we’re hearing how the defense is shaming, trash talking and ridiculing Love during practices, Rasul Douglas and Jaire Alexander to name a couple.
Then there is this….
https://twitter.com/i/status/1687591893402558464
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Personally, i believe Love deserves a season (minimum) probably longer citing the fact that he has 3 2nd year receivers (still learning) and the rest are rookies at tight end and receiver. Nice work Gute/Murphy.
Not half a season like mouth breather Howdy Doody said.
Notice i didn’t include ‘veteran’ tight end Deguara?
The reason being is he doesn’t matter, he won’t get a 2nd contract (probably from anyone) because he never moves the needle.
If anyone thinks he does move the needle, i’m easy to find, let’s discuss it.
Deguara has 3 seasons of PFF grades in the mid to high 50’s
Translation = future lumber yard worker at Menards.
Sorry if that hurts anyone’s feelings. But he’s a 3rd round pick of Gutes, this shouldn’t be shocking news to anyone.
In defense of Gute, Deguara only had a 6.66 RAS. So ‘maybe’ he was a Murphy pick.
We’ll probably never know.
Tom M 2 days ago
Get comfortable ladies. Mark Murphy is five long years away from mandatory retirement.
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5 – 3 = 5
“MATH IS VERY VERY VERY HARD!!” – PRINCESS
Sink or swim, Jordan Love starts the entire season. The alternative is Sean Clifford. Most of us will know about eight games in if Love is an NFL QB. While Kevin and Cheese still struggle with determining if Christian Watson and Romeo Doubs are any good. They’re slow like that, special needs.
If Love can play, perhaps he plays to Aaron Rodgers high standard of 8-9 last year averaging a lofty 217 yards per game and looking absolutely awful against Detroit not once but twice! Dream big, right Kevin?
If Love isn’t the answer, then we’re in the Caleb Williams/ Drake Maye sweepstakes. Both QB’s rated higher than any college QB that came out last year. Both rated higher than Jordan Love coming out.
Either way this crumbles, management has this covered. The only thing we know with certainty is that Aaron Rodgers wasn’t the answer for the Packers. And he won’t be the answer for the Jets either. That road is a dead end. Not one of you ladies predicting great things with Rodgers and super ninja GM Joe Douglas. Did you hear Rodgers was happy in New York? Why that made Kevin as giddy as a school girl!
So you better get to work on that “review” before the season starts, Kevin. That way we’ll have plenty of reference material on how stupid you are as the season progresses. Ya know, never mind Kevin. It’s not necessary. Everyone knows you’re clueless….
“Sink or swim, Jordan Love starts the entire season.” – Gomer
“If Love can play…..” – Gomer
“If Love isn’t the answer….” – Gomer
Interesting…lol
This….coming from the guy who told us Love is our next franchise player.
This…coming from the guy who told us that Rodgers is scared that Love will take his starting job and Rodgers will be benched….lol
This…coming from the guy who told us that Love was breathing down Rodgers neck.
This…coming from the guy who told us we were set at QB for the next decade.
Now…that Rodgers is gone.
Oh…..how the story is changing.
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“Either way this crumbles, management has this covered.” – Gomer
Yes, they have this covered Gomer…i can’t wait to see our 1st round pick (7th overall pick) sit on the bench next year, he can join the others.
Yes, either way Tommi tells us….. if Love isn’t “the answer”, then the last 4 years of Packer ‘proven’ mismanagement has been a waste, a 2000 Packer throwaway team when Love was drafted for the future instead of getting a receiver to compete.
Then Gute/Murphy can start all over looking for another QB like (Tommi suggests) Caleb Williams/ Drake Maye . YAY!!
Funny how Tommi goes from telling us how great Love is, to handpicking Love’s replacement after Love plays one season. 😮
Yea Barney, management has this covered….lol……BRILLIANT!
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“That way we’ll have plenty of reference material on how stupid you are as the season progresses.”
Yes Princess, how stupid i am?
Tom M 2 days ago
Get comfortable ladies. Mark Murphy is five long years away from mandatory retirement.
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“So you better get to work on that “review” before the season starts, Kevin” – Barney
What’s your review Princess?
How will the Packer defense be?
Top 5 elite like last season?
What’s wrong Goober…the defense lose its swag with you this season so you go silent?
You were chirping loud and proud about the top 5 defense a year ago…weren’t you Nancy?
What happened?
How many games will the Packers win Princess?
Do you need time to check with your psychic?
Keep telling others how stupid they are Nancy, while your stupidity gets published everyday.
Now that’s impressive!!
Yes, ignore all the facts and your own blatant stupidity that you can’t deal with and a can only say in response…”umm, duh, ummm, your ahhh ummm…dumb kevin!!
You Princess…are the poster child for…You can’t fix stupid.
5 long years until Murphy retires?….lol
You kill me Princess.
JP…send this assclown a calendar and a calculator…i’m buying!! 🤪
It’s good to see Rashan Gary off the PUP and doing drills on the side. This is a contract year so I expect a big season. But wait! Have we determined whether or not Rashan Gary can play? Or do we need a “couple of more seasons” like we do with Christian Watson, Romeo Doubs, and Jordan Love? The evaluation process comes slow here at “Total Packers.”
Camp arm Danny Etling got cut after family night. It was Etling who beat out Kevin favorite, Kurt Benkert last year. Yet somehow Jordan Love still hangs on. Even after the offense went 0-5 against the defense to start camp. That’s got to mean something, right Kevin?
Fifth round draft pick Sean Clifford has been elevated to number two on the depth chart and so far has acquitted himself well in the backup roll. I’m anxious to see how he looks in preseason. It’d be nice if he could be the next Matt Flynn.
It appears Zach Tom, drafted in the 4th round, will be the starting RT. He’ll line up next to Jon Runyan, likewise drafted in the fifth round. But you know that Brian Gutekunst, he can’t draft worth a damn after the second round, right Kevin?
How’s your titillating expose on Packers drafts dating back to 2011 coming, Kevin? We all await your knowledge, wisdom, and biting commentary…
Oh my goodness!!
You sounds so angry Princess.
Is everything under control?
If someone on here has upset you Tommi, you just to me who and i’ll be sure to give them…what for.
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Those are a lot of technical questions you posed Goober.
Luckily Mark Murphy has 5 long years left until retirement to give you some answers.
Feel better!! 😘
Listen up Goober….
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Aaron Nagler had the best observation about the depth chart in his PackersDaily chat yesterday: It means nothing – it’s produced by the PR department for the press, not the coaching staff. Take absolutely nothing about this depth chart as relative to what will happen on the field.
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Yes, Z. Tom might win a starting spot, maybe RT, maybe Center, idk.
Yes, he’s a 4th round draft pick, so what does that prove Tommi, that Gute drafts well after the 2rd round simply because Tom is a starter? Which he may or may not be.
Seriously with this?
The Packers aren’t entirely happy with Meyers inconsistency, so they are giving Tom a lot of reps on the first team at center.
Now getting back to your contention of proof that Gute must draft well after the 2 round because Tom is listed as a starter before preseason on the depth chart is not only ludicrous, but to anyone of even average intelligence it’s just plain stupid.
Even if Runyan and Zach Tom start, that doesn’t prove/mean a damn thing in this league.
It just means they started
JaMarcus Russel started.
Tony Mandarich started.
Kevin King was a started at cornerback.
How did that work out, what’s he doing now, how many teams said thanks, but no thanks to a 27 year old 4 year starting cornerback in his prime…at any price?
31 teams said no, that’s how many.
Just because a player starts, means next to nothing
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Lets try this Nancy….because you brought up Z. Tom being drafted in the 4th round and Runyan the 5th round
Lets say they both start….Is Z. Tom and Runyan the same successful draft picks as say…..
Bakhtiari (4th round)
C. Linsley (5th round)
J.C. Tretter (4th round)
Josh Sitton (4th round)
T.J. Lang (4th round)
You get where i’m going with that cupcake?
Ok, didn’t think so.
Here…let me dumb it down so you can understand……
I said earlier, just because a player starts, that alone doesn’t make you him a good draft pick.
Or…how about we try this…..
What is the difference between Zach Tom and Jon Runyan, and all those 4th and 5th round draft picks i mentioned above?
What is the one big difference separating them?
Now, i’m not going to give you the answer because you have to start learning to figure this stuff out on your own, ok Princess?
So….take your time trying to figure out the answer, try not to over think it, it’s not that complicated.
Again, time is not an issue here.
What is an issue is me giving you the tools to learn, and you …learning.
See what you come up with and let me now.
No need to hurry….I’ll be here here for 5 more long years.
*know
Ted Thompson had a 12 year run as GM. Brian Gutekunst has been on the job half as long. Not the same sample size. Add in your complicated and unnecessary “evaluation process” where it takes years to determine if someone can play or not. That makes half of Gutekunst’s draft classes incomplete by your own high standard. Even though everyone else can see Romeo Doubs was a 4th round steal.
What you girls tell yourself over and over is that Gutekunst can’t draft past the 2nd round. The roster says otherwise. This roster is all Brian Gutekunst. And he doesn’t need Aaron Rodgers to be successful. And that’s what scares all of you.
“What you girls tell yourself over and over is that Gutekunst can’t draft past the 2nd round. The roster says otherwise.” – Nancy
The roster says otherwise? 🙄
So, according to Tommi logic….if ‘some’ (a few) of his 3-7th round players are on the roster, that proves them to be good picks? LOL…you kill me!! 🤣
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“This roster is all Brian Gutekunst. And he doesn’t need Aaron Rodgers to be successful. And that’s what scares all of you.” Lettucehead
And that was *PROVEN when….at this seasons training camp?
Damn lol…you are entertaining, a simpleton for sure, but that’s what makes you entertaining.
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Ok, next…..”Even though everyone else can see Romeo Doubs was a 4th round steal.” – Proven
So….Doubs has been *PROVEN?
425 career yards…3 TD’s…10.1 average per catch….*PROVEN!!
Interesting, he had 6 drops last season to almost lead the league, and he has more drops than that so for in training camp. But if you say he’s *PROVEN in your world of fairy tales…go with it. But a suggestion…learn something, before you speak.
(Tommi…have you not learned anything from me at all…why do you make me have to dumb down trying to teach you basic things?)
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Allright…anything else….?
“Tom M 56 mins ago
Ted Thompson had a 12 year run as GM. Brian Gutekunst has been on the job half as long. Not the same sample size.” Nancy
Ok, here is what you are missing Nancy. Grab some paper and a pen.
In Thompson’s 1st 6 seasons what did he do Nancy?
A) Had full control of football operations from day 1. No training wheels necessary.
B) Drafted a (*PROVEN) first Ballot HOF QB
C) He built a (*PROVEN) Championship roster
D) Drafted 2 Pro Bowl offensive lineman.
E) Built a (*PROVEN) top 5 defense
D) He watched that roster win a Super Bowl with a REAL (*PROVEN) franchise QB and a REAL (*PROVEN) top defense that only gave up 15 PPG
Entering Gute’s 6th season….
A) Built a roster with the help of NFL talent evaluator Guru Mark Murphy
B) Lost two NFCCG’s
C) Traded up for a QB for the future when the current team was one game away from the Super Bowl (twice)
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So what can we realistically look for in Gute’s 6th season?
The consensus is a team just hoping to make the playoffs
Vegas over/under odds of wins at 7.5.
Some improvement over average for a defense with 8 1st round picks.
Random: Could you imagine an offense run by Rodgers with…8 1st round picks on offense?
Holy shit right?
So compared to Thompson…what has Gute accomplished?
Below is a list of Gute’s accomplishments……
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*PROVEN
……Meaning of proven in English
Shown to be true: You have a proven work record
It took Ted Thompson all of 7 or 8 games with Aaron Rodgers as a starter to give him a 60 million dollar contract extension. He didn’t hide behind definitions of the word “proven.” He didn’t have to wait several years to let everyone else tell him Rodgers could play. He knew what he saw and he acted on it. It will be no different with Jordan Love. Those in the know will determine rather quickly if Love is the real deal or if they need to focus on next years QB draft class. So far, things look promising, but we’re still a month away from where the rubber meets the road.
When ask about Romeo Doubs, Matt LaFleur said his route running reminded him of Davante Adams. High praise indeed. And that begs the question. Should we listen to coaches and scouts evaluation of players? Or some yahoo who belches out stats and definitions? My money is always gonna be on those in the know. And not some hater with an agenda.
Whether it’s a handoff on an end around, a slant over the middle, or a deep route on the sideline. Christian Watson is a threat to score every time the ball is in his hands. We know this because we’ve seen it. Defenses will put their best corner on him and slide protection his way. This will provide multiple opportunities for the smooth rout running of Romeo Doubs. Add the matchup nightmare that Luke Musgrave offers over the middle and the quickness of Jayden Reed in the slot and you’ll have a defense stressed every time it takes the field. And I haven’t even mentioned the run game. Jordan Love has everything he needs. The players, the coaching, the talent. It’s time to put it all together and get this party started…
“When ask about Romeo Doubs, Matt LaFleur said his route running reminded him of Davante Adams. High praise indeed.”
So why don’t we do this…..
Lets give Doubs the “high praise ” trophy, and we’ll act like like Doubs doesn’t have a drop issues.
Would you like that Gomer?
Because, if he reminds Lafleur of someone, he must be their clone!!….PROVEN…lol
One of my old girlfriends ‘reminded’ me of a young Jasmine Bleeth.
Does that make her Jasmine Bleeth, Princess?
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“And not some hater with an agenda.” – Princess
Are you speaking of yourself concerning Aaron Rodgers, or something else.
Because that sounds exactly like you.
WTF…lol
Didn’t Davante Adams have drop issues? I am not personally comparing a likely HOFer and Doubs, but it’s worth pointing out DA had issues hanging on to the ball early too and the trolls on twitter were sending him death threats
“Christian Watson is a threat to score every time the ball is in his hands. We know this because we’ve seen it. Defenses will put their best corner on him and slide protection his way. This will provide multiple opportunities for the smooth rout running of Romeo Doubs. Add the matchup nightmare that Luke Musgrave offers over the middle and the quickness of Jayden Reed in the slot and you’ll have a defense stressed every time it takes the field. And I haven’t even mentioned the run game. Jordan Love has everything he needs” – Tom M.
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YEA BABY!! ….OMG!!…i just realized something. With all that offensive firepower, this team is going straight to the Super Bowl.
That offense sounds like it will be better than Rodgers 2011 and 2014 offense. Now if you couple that with another top 5 defense like last season, winning the Super Bowl is almost a certainty.
DAMN!!….I’m thinking Watson is good for 26 TD’s, Davante…oops…i meant Doubs with 17 TD’s (minimum), and our brand spanking new matchup nightmare kicking in another 14 TD’s.
That’s 57 TD passes for Jordan Love…Can you say MVP!?!?
And I haven’t even mentioned the run game
Thank you for your wisdom Princess and bless you for bringing another Super Bowl Lombardi trophy back home to Green Bay in 2023.
Everyone is young!!
I think we’re talking a dynasty here.
Maybe Super Bowls for 5 more long years!!
LET’S DO THIS!!
Man you got the boys down the hall stirred up PF4L. Tom M would fit right in there. Not agreeing that Packers are going to the Super Bowl this year and Gute isn’t the greatest GM in NFL history doesn’t sit well with them. Keep it up. Makes reading the comments more entertaining.
Yea Arch…i was on a bit of a roll 😉
I was going to come in here and simply say that…”i was making friends down the hall 😮
Take your time Kevin. Take 5 years to determine if Romeo Doubs, Christian Watson and Jordan Love can play. In the meantime everyone else will have moved on.
You live in denial and spend your time on Fantasy Island. Where Aaron Rodgers is the “best QB ever” and Brian Gutekunst can’t draft. We did it Aaron Rodgers way, money, play calling, personnel input, and it didn’t work. That’s on Rodgers as much as anyone. Time to move on. Time for a youth movement. Will it work? I for one am optimistic. We know had Rodgers stayed it would have been one more season much like the dozen before it. Ultimately disappointment and lots of finger pointing.
And don’t bother watching the preseason game tonight since this whole process is worthless by your estimation. The rest of us want to see how the kids are doing….
Rodgers Rodgers Rodgers….lol
Rodgers this, Rodgers that, …lol
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“Time to move on” – Princess says…lol
Go find a mirror Gomer, and repeat that 100 times.
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So entertaining Tommi.
You keep obsessing Little man.
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But Princess… i wanna watch Royce Newman tonight, the 10 year starter.
Maybe watch me some Tucker Kraft, who is 3rd string on the Packers depth chart.
I think he’ll get some action.
Plus i made a bet on the over and under of Doubs drops. It’s 2.5, so i took the over.
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“You live in denial and spend your time on Fantasy Island.” – Princess
That could be the island where Royce Newman is a 10 year starter.
Is that the island where Rodgers was afraid of Love beating him out in camp?….lol
Or is that the island where the Packers have a top 5 defense?
Maybe that’s the island where Kevin King is a perennial Pro Bowler.
Maybe that’s the island where Gute won NFL Executive of the Year.
That could be the island where Jordan Love is a franchise QB and where the Packers locked him up for 6 years at 275 million…guaranteed.
That…Fantasy Island Princess?
Sean Clifford is an NFL QB. At what capacity remains to be seen but he can play at this level. He’s 24 and actually a few months older than Jordan Love. The difference between 21 year old Jordan Love coming out of Utah State and Clifford being 24 and a 4 year starter at Penn State is night and day. Not a bad pick for the 5th round. Tay Wicks is another 5th round pick that makes this roster. Jordan Love looked decisive and got rid of the ball on time. He pick up where he left off in the Philly game. We’re gonna be just fine at QB. Romeo Doubs and Christian Watson can play. Kevin can sit around with his thumb up his ass and say he needs more time to know they’re “proven.” In the meantime, the rest of us have long since figured that one out. Caleb Jones is a mountain of a man and may actually be an NFL tackle. I’ll have to watch it again but it looked like Sean Rhyan played well. That Valentine kid is a 7th round steal. Overall a promising performance.
Sean Clifford…1 pre season game = Proven NFL QB
(i’m in the midst of genius here)
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Did you see Royce Newman last night Princess?
2 holding penalties, and getting knocked down on the ground ass backwards.
Signs of a 10 year starter.
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“Kevin can sit around with his thumb up his ass and say he needs more time to know they’re “proven.” In the meantime, i have long since figured out that Royce Newman is a 10 year starter because i know NFL football.” – Tom M.
What you put on the field means something Kevin. If it didn’t there would be no reason for camp or preseason games. Sean Clifford has looked good in camp and looked good in his first preseason game. He’ll be the Packers backup QB. If you can’t see that, or need more time then you don’t know what you’re seeing and I can’t help you. Is Clifford’s ceiling Matt Flynn or Brett Hundley? That remains to be seen but he’ll be QB #2 this year. What was most impressive was the two turnovers didn’t faze him. He didn’t throw his hands up in the air, pout on the sideline, or look to blame others. He overcame adversity. Something you have to be able to do if you want to play in the NFL.
Unfortunately Royce Newman never made a second year jump. He now looks no better than a journeyman guard. Such is life with most 4th round draft picks. But you know who did look good? Jordan Love, Romeo Doubs, and Christian Watson. If Aaron Rodgers completed 70% of his passes and had a passer rating of 112, you’d have to change your panties because they’d be soaked. But that’s ok, cuz your evaluation process takes years….
“Tom M 3 hours ago
What you put on the…….blah blah blah blah….”
Thank you for that Goober, i took notes.
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“Unfortunately Royce Newman never made a second year jump. He now looks no better than a journeyman guard.” – Princess
Sooo, you’re saying, what?
You were wrong again?
Journeyman guards are journeymen for a reason cupcake. They stuck around because they are either starters, or solid back ups.
Newman won’t get a second contract from the Packers.
Much like Kevin King.
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Yes, Jordan looked good in pre-season.
Dinking short passes to wide open receivers for a whopping 4.6 YPA.
Nice little short toss to Doubs, and Doubs even hung on to it for a TD.
Good sign.
Watson looked pretty good also, he caught two passes for 6 yards.
I think were ready for week 1, of real football
BTW…i didn’t catch it, how did matchup nightmare Musgrave do?
I saw one play, he was wide open running a cross and Love completely missed him high and right from 15 yards away.
I just looked it up, he caught 1 of 3 passes for 8 yards.
There is quite a bit to be exited about Princess, enjoy.
Lets do this!!
Jordan Love knows where he’s going with the ball. He knows this offense. Three step drop and the ball is out. Take what the defense gives you, then take your shots with Watson downfield to keep the defense honest. That’s a winning formula. Love is no DeShone Kizer or Tim Boyle. He’s athletic enough to make plays out of the pocket and he’ll run what his HC calls. No bullshit, no drama. I’m sure they’ll be bumps along the way but I like our chances.
Agreed, Tim Boyle is a poor mans Sean Clifford..
Boyle went 9/10 (90%) with 2 TD’s for a passer rating over 100.
Tim Boyle looked decisive and got rid of the ball on time and accurately.
What you put on the field means something.
For those unfamiliar, Undrafted Tim Boyle was Rodgers back up in the 2020 season after beating out Jordan Love who never dressed for a game that season.
Just came about this from the past about Hundley.
PF4L 6 years ago
I’m one of the few on record that didn’t walk around with a chubby over a guys pre-season numbers. I don’t wish bad things for Hundley, but, you watch him, and he just looks like he’s in over his head at this point.
I just don’t understand his cocky attitude, that’s a knife that will cut you deep in this league if you don’t perform. McCarthy will be learning that soon unless he can suddenly transform Hundley into a productive QB.
Tim Boyle, like Royce Newman has reached his peak as a professional football player. Can’t say for sure if this is the best it gets with Sean Clifford. Maybe this is his ceiling and maybe there’s room for growth. But more that his game, I like his presence, he has the “it” factor. He carries himself like a veteran. In that regard he reminds me a little of Don Majkowski. I can see why the Packers liked him.
Contrast that with 21 year old Jordan Love who looked like a deer caught in the headlights when he got here. Caught in the crossfire between management and its star player. It’s surprising he didn’t wind up in therapy. He appears to have risen above it all. And at the very least, if he can just drive the bus, which looks promising, we’ll win some games.
Brett Hundley had a nice rookie camp. Then every training camp thereafter played worse. That’s a huge red flag. Never saw the appeal. And never could Hundley had turn things around after throwing two picks early like Clifford did.
LOL Princess…Don’t you remember tens of thousands of Packer fans proclaiming Hundley had the “IT” factor after the 2015 pre-season when he had a passer rating of 129.9?
Sean Clifford has played 1 pre-season game, but that’s enough for you to crown him NFL worthy and having the “IT” factor in the NFL?
LOL…so entertaining 🙄
Following Hundley’s MVP Preseason award, Brett Hundley’s career stats in the NFL is as follows….59% completions, 9 TD’s against 13 picks with a passer rating of 67.6
That kind of success will land you a job with the highly successful XFL.
To Hundley’s credit, he is the XFL’s highest paid player at 200K/season.
If they’re still in business.
Never stop entertaining us Princess!
You are a treasure of bad (comical) information.
Never stop trying!!
“Funny how Tommi goes from telling us how great Love is, to handpicking Love’s replacement after Love plays one season.”
You sure hit the nail on the head there, PF4L. What a 🤡
“Get comfortable ladies. Mark Murphy is five long years away from mandatory retirement.”
LOL, I instantly knew this was a load of shit when I read it the first time but had zero desire to call him out on it. It’s not worth the time and energy. 🤡🤡🤡
I enjoy it 😉
When he comes here and masquerades as a Packer fan, acting like he knows all, i enjoy slapping him around after all his inane commentary.. 😏
Plus it provides some fodder for people to read while they wait for next months article.
I’m a giver 😁
Tommi’s proclaimed 10 year starter Royce Newman #70
https://twitter.com/i/status/1690446907280400384
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@AndrewBakkestu1
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70 was on his ass alot. He better not make the team.
He got man handled by backups.
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This next one could be Tommi. It sounds like Tommi anyway. Looks like Tommi logic.
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@BostCedric
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Both did they jobs what the problem??
Please excuse Tommi.
He will be back as soon as possible.
When he is done pouting (again).
While Tommi waits for the subject to change so you can show up again, we have this…..
Some voice of reason from down the hall concerning comparing Wolf,Thompson,Gute…….
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“There are many other differences, particularly with the structure of the organization at the top. You can’t have an apples for apples comparison, which is what you’re trying to do.” – Sic
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August 15, 2023 at 11:29 am
YES SIC!!!
One big difference…..
Our President changed the by laws back, to put himself in charge of all football operations. (where he had no experience whatsoever).
Putting training wheels on Gutekunst.
So…except for that fact, it is apples for apples.
If Gutekunst had a problem with Murphy’s new structure, he wouldn’t have taken the job.
Like Wolf wouldn’t have taken the job back in late Nov. of 1991.
If you recall, Wolf wouldn’t take the GM job unless he was 100% in charge of football operations, So Harlan changed the by laws to make that happen.
Which Ted Thompson also enjoyed.
Not coincidentally…it turned a losing franchise, into a winning franchise instantly.
They both built Super Bowl winning rosters by their 6th year as GM
So the powers were reversed back again by Murphy in 2018.
So here we are in their 6th season, Gute is looking at his and Murphy’s own team, just hoping to make the playoffs.
Jordan Love has been compared to Rodgers as far as sitting for 3 years behind a HOF’er. How it was a proven successful formula for a Championship.
So Gutekunst can’t be compared to Wolf or Thompson, or their success in a selected time frame?
Here is yet another nugget from down the hall form some jackass who thinks he knows a thing or two about Packer football 😎
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Anonymous
August 16, 2023 at 11:21 am
Some could learn from reading LP’s comments.
Wolf and TT enjoyed making 100% of the football operation decisions, both have a Super Bowl win to show for it.
So when it came time to hire a new GM, Old Mark Murphy thought it would be a better idea, to change back the bylaws that Robert Harlan changed for Ron Wolf.
I guess Murphy thought he should make 100% of the final decisions on football operations, not the new GM who was hired with a brand new set of training wheels courtesy of the Green Bay Packers..
I think were seeing a little bit how that is going to be working out, at least until 2025.
When everyone currently employed is moved out and the rest of this disease left in the building has been eradicated.
I don’t think “training wheels” is an accurate depiction. Training wheels implies they will be taken off once he learns how to be a GM. Better analogy would be MM handcuffed Gute, or in NASCAR parlance put a restrictor plate in place.
Damn…good to see you Empac.
Yea, i just thought training wheels best described it back in 2018, and i’ve gone this far with it that i figure i’ll stick with it until 2025, when the new President comes in takes out the trash.
I have the feeling (hoping) the training wheels will be a parting gift, besides the guaranteed income from Murphy’s gift of an extension to Gute. Like the extension that Murphy gifted secretly to McCarthy that no one knew about until the GM search.
Thompson also got paid 2 or 3 years after he moved back home to Texas after being ‘reassigned’.
The thing about having HOF QB’s for 30 years in Green Bay is ‘everybody eats’.
I’m thinking about calling into Tommi’s trailer park and have someone do a welfare check.
Better to be safe, because i got a bad feeling about this.
Why Cheese, it’s so good to hear from you. God knows Kevin could use the moral support. Whether Mark Murphy has three years or five years remaining, I don’t get invited to his birthday parties and I’m quite confident neither do the two of you. The point being is he will leave the organization at 70, like Bob Harlan before him, on his own terms. And there’s nothing you ladies can do about it. Unlike Aaron Rodgers, “the best QB ever” who was shown the door and told thanks, but no thanks.
Jordan Love had perhaps his best practice yesterday going against Bill Belichick’s defense. He moved the ball effectively, went thru his reads, didn’t force the ball, took what the defense gave him, and took some shots down field. All with “questionable WR talent” or so says Kevin. Stack that with his performance against the Bengals and the positive comments coming from the opposing team at joint practices last week, and things seem to be trending up for our young QB and that’s good news for all of us.
While in New York at their joint practice, Aaron Rodgers had six “sacks” with his horrendous OL yesterday. The old Aaron Rodgers would have thrown his teammates and coaches under the bus in Green Bay for such an unacceptable performance. The new and improved Aaron Rodgers will take a “wait and see” attitude in New York. Sure Aaron, we’ll see how long that lasts when you’re getting the shit kicked out of your 39 year old body week after week.
Jordan Love’s most worrisome throw was the wide open miss to Luke Musgrave on the crossing route against the Bengals. He simply has to make that throw. When you go back and look at the tape. The footwork is all wrong. His feet pointing to the right, while the throw was to his left. If Love takes a split second to reset his feet, that’s an easy throw and a big completion. And if I can see it, so can everyone else. With the exception of Kevin, of course. Someone will have to tell him.
“Whether Mark Murphy has three years or five years remaining, I don’t get invited to his birthday parties and I’m quite confident neither do the two of you.”
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😂🤣😂🤣
So that’s your excuse for being dead wrong about something that is public knowledge? I don’t need to go to Murphy’s birthday party to know that he is set to retire in July of 2025. Yet, you miss the mark by 3 years and still act like you know WTF you’re talking about. 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Wow, good to hear that Love is “out-practicing” Rodgers in training camp. Let me guess, you’re gonna tell us that Love looked better than Rodgers in last weeks preseason game as well. (SPOILER ALERT: Rodgers didn’t even play last week because he’s an egotistical diva who doesn’t think preseason games can garner him enough attention). Does that sound about right, Tom?
I get it Cheese. You and Kevin have to take your moral victories wherever you can find them. I guessed Murphy was 65 and he’s 68? Nail my ass to the cross! In the meantime you and Kevin spew the most rank horse shit known to man. “Aaron Rodgers is the best QB ever!” “Jordan Love can’t play QB!” “We have no good WR’s because they weren’t drafted in the first round!” “Brian Gutekunst can’t draft passed the second round!” “We can’t trade Aaron Rodgers because of his contract!” And the bullshit just keeps getting deeper and deeper. But we’ll over look all that because I was off by Murphy’s age by a couple of years. Got it girls…
So now the rumor is that new Jets GM Aaron Rodgers is in negotiations with Brian Gutekunst on a David Bakhtiari trade. If I’m Gutekunst I tell little Erin to fuck off. I tell him you wanted me fired and I want to see your 39 year old, sweet ass get beat to a pulp behind that joke of an OL in New York. And I’m going to savor every sack, every time you roll your eyes, every time you throw your arms up in the air, every time you throw your teammates and coaches under the bus. It’s gonna be glorious! The season can’t get here fast enough….
“I guessed Murphy was 65 and he’s 68? Nail my ass to the cross!”
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You were wrong. Now you’re complaining that you got called out on it? Was it your trusty eyesight that made you think that Murphy was only 65? Time for some new glasses. Here’s an idea, don’t argue based off of your guesses. A simple 5 second google search could have saved you from sounding like a buffoon.
“But we’ll over look all that because I was off by Murphy’s age by a couple of years.”
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It was more than a couple years. It was over double what the actual time remaining was. You’re like the weatherman. Wrong more often than not and you still expect people to take you seriously.
“Aaron Rodgers is the best QB ever!”
The only person I’ve seen post that in here is you so you can continue blathering about your deranged vendetta.
“Jordan Love can’t play QB!”
Says the guy who was telling all of us what top tier QB the Packers are going to pick in the draft after Love doesn’t pan out. This was of course after you told us about how Love was breathing down Rodgers neck for a starting position.
“We have no good WR’s because they weren’t drafted in the first round!”
The Packers have no proven WR’s because the whole roster is filled with rookies and second year guys that only played half the season last year. Meanwhile, the defense has 8 first round picks and is still middle of the road.
“Brian Gutekunst can’t draft passed the second round!”
😂 Passed? Well, right “passed” the second round is the third round. Tell me all of Gute’s 3rd round gems that he’s found over the “passed” six years.
Damn Tommi!…,..want me to send you some Neosporin?
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If i may…..
How many starters does Gute have to show from rounds 3-7 in his first 5 drafts?
2018….zero
2019….zero
2020….1…Jon Runyan…(with Royce Newman breathing down his neck?) 😁
2021…1 (i guess)..TJ Slayton…2 starts.
2022…1 ..Romeo Doubs….unless of course, he keeps leading the league in dropped passes
So there you have it, we have 3 starters with the highest PFF grade being 62.6, (the very, very low end of a starters grade).
3 starters of 36 players drafted.
TT had 8 starters
In Gute We Trust.
It’s a wonder other NFL teams aren’t trying to steal Gute away from the Packers.
This, and his handling of the Love situation, i can’t believe he’s still here.
Maybe….that’s why Murphy gave GUTE that extension!
SMART!!
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Tune in for next months article when we discuss how many lackluster 2nd round picks Gute has made.
With an added bonus of how many of our first round picks sit on the bench for 1,2 or 3 years.
“Whether Mark Murphy has three years or five years remaining, I don’t get invited to his birthday parties and I’m quite confident neither do the two of you. The point being is i can’t add worth a fuck. Math is hard” – Tom M.
“The point being is he will leave the organization at 70, like Bob Harlan before him, on his own terms. Murphy will leave the Packers, as awkward behind a microphone as he was the day he got hired” – Tom M
“Jordan Love had perhaps his best practice yesterday going against Bill Belichick’s defense in his red jersey, at practice. Chalk one up for our next franchise QB, stacking success’s!!.” – Tom M.
“While in New York at their joint practice, Aaron Rodgers is still living in my head as i still can’t stop obsessing over him” – Tom M.
“When you go back and look at the tape. The footwork is all wrong. His feet pointing to the right, while the throw was to his left. If Love continues at this pace, i may have to go to Green Bay and start working with him to straighten him out before week 1” – Tom M.
“You and Kevin have to take your moral victories wherever you can find them. I guessed Murphy was 65 and he’s 68, ok, i’m stupid i admit it, is that what you want to hear?
I told everyone Royce Newman is a 10 year starter, Ok, maybe i am a moron, you happy now?
How about the other 47 times i’ve been wrong, you going to throw that back in my face too?”
I do the best i can guys!! It wasn’t long ago i was a viking fan, and before that a Patriot fan. I’m one of you guys now, a cheesehead, how many years do i have to languish in here, hated and ridiculed, until you guys accept me?!?!” – Tom M.
OMG…Hi Tommi!!!
Welcome back 😉
“Jordan Love had perhaps his best practice yesterday going against Bill Belichick’s defense.” Tom M.
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Some excerpts on the Packers/Patriots practice……
Bill Huber on Jordan Love
“Jordan Love was 14-of-31 passing with two touchdowns and two interceptions. He should have had at least one more touchdown. He also could have finished with three or four interceptions.”
“During the next period, Love started 1-of-5 with the lone completion perhaps losing yards.”
“His 2-minute drill should have ended with a first-pass interception but the offense was given a mulligan. He went 5-of-12 on the next drive to at least get into scoring range, but Josiah Deguara lacked the vertical jump (and perhaps ball-judgment skills) to make a leaping catch in the end zone and Luke Musgrave dropped what should have been an 18-yard touchdown on the final play.”
“By our count, Love has completed 56.0 percent of his passes in camp.”
“The Patriots came to Green Bay and threw a block party against the Jordan Love-led #Packers offense. It only seemed like the Patriots had more deflections than Love had completions, and the 2-minute drill was awful.” via twitter
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I could go on and on and on with how bad the defense looked giving up multiple consecutive TD’s in the red zone drills.
Or how many passes most of the receivers dropped including Watson, Doubs, and Musgrave.
But i’d much rather keep it positive and discuss the Packers playoff outlook and the road to the Super Bowl under the team of roster builders, NFL football operations strategist Mark Murphy and Brian Gutekunst.
My early pick for co-winners of the 2023 NFL Executive of the Year award.
Here is an article for the top 10 projected edge rushers for 2023.
Who is missing from this list?
Hint for Tommi…it isn’t Brian Burns
Contrary to what i constantly read….
You aren’t one of the best edge rushers in the NFL, unless you are.
WARNING: This list doesn’t include excuses.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ranking-nfls-top-10-edge-rushers-of-2023-49ers-nick-bosa-no-1-but-theres-lots-of-competition-behind-him/
Ranking the NFL’s Best Pass-Rushing Duos Ahead of the 2023 Season…
Who is missing from this list?
Hint for Tommi…it isn’t 4th round pick, 3x Pro Bowler Z. Smith
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10078716-ranking-the-nfls-best-pass-rushing-duos-ahead-of-the-2023-season
You ladies take your time but 4th round WR Romeo Doubs is gonna be a star. How does UFA WR Malik Heath not make the 53? Those were big time catches and he blocks like a TE. Even 7th round WR Grant DuBose looked good. While 2nd round WR Jayden Reed reminds me of Amon Ra St Brown. I wise man once said you don’t have to draft a WR in the first round. Good wide receivers can be found anywhere. Who was that wise and sage man?
Another strong performance by Jordan Love. He keeps this up and he may be the next Brock Purdy. Still don’t know his ceiling but if he can just drive the bus, the Packers are gonna win a lot of games. That’s what happens when you’re surrounded by talent. And where did all this talent come from? The GM? But we can only be successful with Aaron Rodgers! He carries this team! Not anymore and not last year.
Will Levis transferred from Penn St to Kentucky because he couldn’t beat out Sean Clifford. Levis was drafted 33rd over all and is struggling in Tennessee while Clifford is looking like a 5th round steal in Green Bay. But Brian Gutekunst can’t draft past the second round, or so I’m told….
“Good wide receivers can be found anywhere. Who was that wise and sage man?”
Good wide receivers can be found anywhere.
Like Amari, MVS, Equanimeous St. Brown, J’mon Moore?
Who was that wise and sage man?
Can they be found (anywhere) like in free agency?
Maybe…Funchess? How about Watkins?
Anywhere!!….Except of course from the drafts of 2018 – 2023 (so far) and free agency.
Yes sweetheart, they aren’t proven yet
Have someone explain to you what a proven, consistent, receiver looks like.
It takes more than a good 4,5 game stretch in a rookie season.
If it’s so easy to find good receivers anywhere Tommi….
May i suggest you get a hold of the Packers front office and offer your tutoring services to Gutekunst for offensive roster building.
I mean…You nailed Royce Newman right?
Can you imagine what magic you could pull off with the receiving room?
Just explain to the Packers that you are both wise and sage.
That…should do it!!
What do you think cupcake, for the team?
Welp, this place is still the toxic hellscape that I left it in. Some things just never change.
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Actually looking forward to this season because it is sort of an unknown quantity. I have liked what I have seen out of Love, but he is going to have to do it consistently week in and week out. The biggest thing is week to week growth. It’s a very young offense besides the OL. I feel like the national media is confusing young inexperienced and mediocre. The pass catchers are very talented, it has been on display. It won’t be perfect, but they may surprise people this year. It’s been good watching Zach Tom become a really good player, however it just makes Gutes mistake of passing on Creed Humphrey all the more glaring, because a line of post-Bahk consisting of Tom, Jenkins, Humphrey, JRJ, Nijman sounds a hell of a lot better than Nijman, Jenkins, Tom, JRJ, someone (Rasheed Walker?) Or perhaps Rhyan mixed in there somewhere
Gutekunst hit on Zach Tom, Jon Runyan Jr, Elgton Jenkins, and Yosh Nijman. Josh Myers may never be Creed Humphrey but he’s not a bust either. Rasheed Walker was actually a pretty good tackle coming out of college. I believe he got the start last night at LT. Walker and Nijman will probably be your swing tackles this year with best one groomed to replace Bakhtiari next year. Or perhaps we use one of our two first round draft picks next year for a plug and play LT. They’ll be options. Josh Myers was picked over Humphrey because Myers could play guard and they like versatility along the line.
Actually Kato, the national media is, by and large, receptive to the idea that the Packers might actually be good this year. It’s the Brian Gutekunst haters and the Aaron Rodgers apologists who preach hell fire and damnation. They have an agenda and an axe to grind. But I’m with you, I’m encouraged by what I’m seeing….
“He’s not a bust”
What a glowing endorsement!!
So entertaining 🙄
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I love training camp and pre-seaon games, where players are proven.
Tell us more Tommi, i got a new pen 😊
Josh Myers is a bust. He has been below average. He is good in the run game assuming he is blocking a dude right in front of him. In space, he is a disaster. Pass protection is not good either. Have you watched the dude play? Have you not wondered why they have been playing other guys at center? Dudes job is in jeopardy. Besides, he was taken two rounds early, where Creed Humphrey was available, the consensus top center in the draft, and the Packers were looking to have an immediate starter at the position with the departure of Linsley, and they didn’t have another center on the roster at the time. I don’t pile on Gute like other people, but he absolutely fucked up, and people knew that even without the benefit of hindsight
That’s right Kevin. You knew from training camp and preseason games last year Romeo Doubs could play. At least most of us did. The rest were, and still are, in denial. Just like Malik Heath is showing you he belongs now.
Aaron Rodgers would give his left nut to have his OL back. And that includes Josh Myers at center. If that’s all you got, bitching about Josh Myers, then you don’t have much. Best you go back to telling each other Gutekunst can’t draft past the second round.
Patrick Mahomes won a SB with 5th round WR MVS. While 6th round WR EQ was WR #2 last year in Chicago. Sammy Watkins, like Jordy Nelson, is the poster boy on why you never sign veteran WR’s. You get more bang for your buck with a 6th round pick or UFA at WR than paying for a veteran for the same amount of production. Watkins served his purpose. Christian Watson’s hamstring injury in training camp stunted his growth out of the gate. Once he emerged Watkins became expendable and released. The Watkins signing was more to appease assistant GM Aaron Rodgers after losing Adams.
Yes!!….MVS was crucial in the Chiefs winning the Super Bowl.
MVS’s 0 catches in the Super Bowl for zero yards on 1 target put them over the top.
Tell us more Tommi.
Getting to the SB doesn’t happen without MVS right Tommi? His 2 regular season TD catches costing only 9 million, propelled the Chiefs.
Anything else Tommi? lol
Oh yea…EQ with the Bears, lets get at it 😮….
While 6th round WR EQ was the #2 receiver on a 3-14 team, helping them acquire the #1 pick in the draft.
His 323 yards and 1 TD was impressive Tommi, as is your entertaining commentary.
You’ll say something intelligent someday.
Don’t give up Sparky!!
Brilliant!!
Let me put it this way Kevin. MVS and EQ were 5th and 6th round draft picks 5 years ago and they’re still in the league. Both got second contracts. MVS signed to the tune of 10 million per season. I know you expect every draft pick to be an immediate starter and all pro but it doesn’t work that way. It didn’t for Ted. It didn’t for Ron Wolf. It doesn’t work that way for anyone. Ever.
You and the girls can debate the virtues of Creed Humphrey over Josh Myers all you like. For me, I’ll take Josh Myers any day of the week over Humphrey. As long as I get Jordan Love, Christian Watson, Romeo Doubs, Luke Musgrave, Jayden Reed, and Sean Clifford. That’s the core of your offensive skilled players and the future looks very bright. And you can thank Brian Gutekunst for that. But none of you will.
” Both got second contracts” – Nancy
So did Kevin King.
2nd contracts..lol…Is this your ‘A’ game Sparky?
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“Let me put it this way Kevin. MVS and EQ were 5th and 6th round draft picks 5 years ago and they’re still in the league, proof that you can find good receivers…anywhere” – Tom M.
So via ‘Tommi logic’, if they’re still in the league, they must be good!?!? 😮
Brett Hundley (5th round) was in the league 8 years.
Oren Burks is entering his 6th season.
Want more?
So yea…you got anything else Gomer?
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” I know you expect every draft pick to be an immediate starter and all pro but it doesn’t work that way. It didn’t for Ted. It didn’t for Ron Wolf. It doesn’t work that way for anyone. Granted, it is more excusable when those two GM’s overcame, and built Championship roster’s anyway and proved it by winning Super Bowls.
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/c97647cb-23aa-42c9-9c1d-c7a61445d5ec
Plus Thompson finding 5 Pro Bowl, and All Pro lineman in the 4th and 5th rounds is pretty impressive.” – The Sports Babe
I agree 100% Sweet tits.
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So easy\ 😉
Don’t be a stranger Goober 🥱
“For me, I’ll take Josh Myers any day of the week over Humphrey.”
Are you fucking retarded?
“Another strong performance by Jordan Love. He keeps this up and he may be the next Brock Purdy.” – Tom M
Oh man!!…how cool would that be?
Do you mean to tell me that maybe Gute’s 1st round pick Jordan Love can someday be as good as the 49ers 7th round pick?
WOW….NICE!!
From down the hall, where some are projecting NFL MVP awards for the 2023 pre-season, while losing touch with reality.
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Anonymous
August 21, 2023 at 06:12 pm
I’m always entertained, one way or another, even in the pre-season.
What is the pre-season about, anyone remember?
What’s it’s purpose?
EVALUATION to see who makes (fills) the roster.
Now, more than ever with the reduced practice time negotiated by the NFLPA in it’s last two contracts.
To me….pre season games are merely an extension of training camp to evaluate players on the fence
It’s not an indication on how the 1st team offense will do in real games against another teams first team defense.
That isn’t determined….until they play in real games.
Almost half of teams players who play in the pre-season, will soon be finding real jobs, or trying to get signed to someone’s practice squad.
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I can remember, back in 2015 so many Packer fans crowning Brett Hundley based on his pre season performance.
I remember it like it was yesterday. Some fans even wanted Hundley to start over Rodgers.
Hundley was the “MVP of the Pre Season for some Packer fans.
There was a lot of kool aid drinking going on.
Was Hundley’s performance and his 129.7 pre season passer rating indicative of his future playing career?
NOT IN THE LEAST.
I don’t want to rain on Jordan Love’s parade, but some common sense, critical thinking, and voice of reason has to enter the room occasionally.
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Root for the Packers, Jordan Love, drink the kool aid, Carry the G…..
I get it, but lets not sound like we’re living in Fantasy Land.
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As in the business world….
Under promise, and over deliver.
Not the other way around.
I found some intelligence down the hall.
I like to acknowledge intelligence.
Someday i’d like to acknowledge Tommi.
But anyway, here…..
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Anonymous
August 21, 2023 at 06:23 pm
Ahhh…can’t wait to see what these forums sound like by Week 8 or 9. Will it be…”see, I told you that our front office are a bunch of morons and we suck!!” or “see, I told you that we had the right pieces in place and GPG!!”
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Anonymous
August 22, 2023 at 09:35 am
Reagan nailed it, great vision.
Personally, if i’m wrong, i’ll admit it and give credit when it’s due.
Am i wrong sometimes, unfortunately yea, i’m human.
But it isn’t very often. I don’t say that to sound arrogant. I say it because it’s the truth.
TVOR
*Caveat….
There is at least a fair chance the Packers have a better record at week 8, then the Jets.
Before the Packers bye week, they have 5 winnable cupcakes (teams) vs what the Jets have. Plus the Packers have a far superior off. line.
Concerning Murphy and how he said the Packers would know what they had in Love at week 8.
I don’t buy that, not one bit. You give Love the season, maybe even into next season based on 2 solid reasons.
1) It is Loves 1st year starting.
2) Gute didn’t exactly give him experienced productive proven weapons sans Aaron Jones.
It’s one thing to be a first year starting QB, but most of his pass catching weapons are rookies, sans 2 sophomore receivers who are not yet fully proven themselves.
Kevin King was drafted by Ted. Are you trying to bash Gutekunst or Ted? Because the corner position has been completely rebuilt by Gutekunst and is the strength of the defense. Just like he’s rebuilt every other position group on this team.
Jordan Love put together an impressive 93 yard TD drive against a Bill Belichick defense who played many starters. Stack that with his outing against Cincinnati the week before and the game against Philadelphia and you’re starting to see the game slow down for him. The physical talent has always been there. It’s always been about can he process the game from the neck up. Jordan Love is showing signs of putting it all together. And for Packer fans that’s exciting. Well, for most of us it is.
Before you compare Gutekunst to Ted and Ron, give him a decade on the job. That’s how long they were on the job. If Jordan Love is the real deal then Gutekunst will be a SB winning GM. Something Aaron Rodgers couldn’t deliver with Gutekunst running the show.
LOL…i love you man!! 😎
Never stop trying, keep swinging!!
Tom M 2 hours ago
“Kevin King was drafted by Ted.”
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It’s fairly well known that in the 2017 draft, they shut Ted down for obvious reasons.
There are reports that Russ Ball, or Gute and Wolf made the 2017 picks. I hardly doubt it was Ball alone as his job wasn’t evaluating talent.
What’s more believable is that Gute and Elliott picked Kevin King.
Or one did, with the endorsement of the other.
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Do what you do best Princess, keep rooting for your vikings to win a Super Bowl.
SKOL!!
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Damn..where does it end with you?…lol
“Jordan Love put together an impressive 93 yard TD drive against a Bill Belichick defense who played many starters.” – Lettuce head
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CONGRATULATIONS……PROVEN!!! TOMMI LOGIC!!
I don’t care if they had 1 starter, or 11, it’s still PRE-SEASON.
What is it you don’t understand between a pre-season game and a regular season game?
What confuses you so easily?
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“Before you compare Gutekunst to Ted and Ron, give him a decade on the job……….” – Radish Head
Ted and Ron won a Super in their 5th and 6th year, respectively.
But Gute gets an extra 4 or 5 years or we can’t compare their level of success?
Is that somehow more ‘Tommi logic’?
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So in your mind…Gute gets a special handicap because…?
A) You are just a raging alcoholic who can’t process information like someone sober?
B) Maybe you are a heavy drug user looking for his next daily fix?
C) Or….are you just ‘special’?
D) A,B and C
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Now listen closely Tigger, the game has probably slowed down for Love.
You could be right on that!! YAY!!!
The game damn well better had slowed down for Love from his rookie season, he’s had 3 friggin years to learn something. DUH!!
Nobody ever said Love doesn’t have physical skills. No one has disputed that. There you go again, arguing with yourself.
As i have written far too many times over the years, even back when you were ‘Killer’….Playing QB from college to the Pro’s is 90% mental.
That is why there are so many failed #1 draft picks at QB.
It’s not because they can’t throw a spiral on a rope.
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Crown Love if you want, throw a ‘I Love Jordan Love’ kool aid party in your Trailer Park, idc.
Hell, rub one out if you want while watching Loves 93 yard drive aided by penalties.
Have at it. But…for the 89th time….
Players don’t prove themselves in pre season.
Evidently players don’t prove themselves during the regular season either because you’ve yet to acknowledge that Christian Watson and Romeo Doubs are NFL WR’s. You need more time. No hurry Kevin, the rest of us have moved on.
You said Jordan Love didn’t have the physical skills because Tim Boyle beat him out without a preseason. You told us camp arm Tim Boyle, then Kurt Benkert, were superior QB’s. So now you knew all along Love was talented 4 years later but you compare him now to Brett Hundley? Wait, what?
And now you claim it was Brian Gutekunst, not Ted Thompson who drafted the destroyer of franchises, Kevin King. Based on what exactly? How do we know it wasn’t Ted? For all we know it could have been Eliot Wolf. But no, you just know it was Gutekunst and the organization has gone to shit ever since. There’s Kevin crazy and then there’s bat shit crazy and you’ve crossed the like my friend….
“There’s Kevin crazy and then there’s bat shit crazy and you’ve crossed the like my friend….” Princess in a dress
Stay in school kids!!!
” How do we know it wasn’t Ted? ” Goober
Gee…i don’t know Nancy…maybe stop painting your nails, put away your Ragnar bobblehead and read something.
Like way back, when Tommi started talking about Cheese and MMSUCKS mother and sisters in sexual content, that wasn’t enough for this place to draw the line?
Now, this is the result. Enjoy, not that the owner gives a fuck.
So then, is Jordan Love talented? Or is he Brett Hundley? Because they’re not the same. And how can you render a judgment on Jordan Love when the sample size of our young QB is so much smaller than that of Christian Watson and Romeo Doubs who you claim you need to see more? All the while it’s obvious to everyone else they’re both emerging playmakers.
You go and tell those 90 guys in camp that preseason games don’t mean anything. Go tell Malik Heath he’s wasting his time chasing his dream. They’re all fighting for a job. Collectively it all means something Kevin regardless whether you think so or not. The games, practice, OTA’s. Has there been indication that Jordan Love, Christian Watson, and Romeo Doubs won’t continue playing like they did last season? No, there isn’t, and that’s encouraging and something to get excited about.
Try this Kevin. Look at players based on their talent and not who drafted them. I get it, you don’t like Brian Gutekunst and therefore refuse to acknowledge anything positive he’s done. But trying to convince yourself Gutekunst drafted Kevin King when Ted was GM is just beyond delusional. You need help my friend…
That’s right MMSUCKS. I’m a spy sent by Packer management to infiltrate this shitty little site to prevent you, Cheese, and Kevin from speaking “the truth.” Two words. GET HELP!
I don’t know exactly what PF4L means, but I am assuming you are misrepresenting what he is saying. I don’t think he said it is meaningless to guys trying to make the final five spots of a roster. I think he meant that preseason is meaningless as far as predicting future success at the pro level. Which, he is right if that’s what he is saying. I don’t think its totally meaningless, guys have to show certain things in preseason usually in order to be successful in the regular season, obviously. But how many guys have we seen be bosses in the preseason and be total nonfactors once the games that count occur? And sometimes they are out of the league before the end of the year. There is a lot to like about Love, and I think he will be at least league average. But he has to prove it, until then he is a chump.
Thanks to Kevin’s insight, I no longer believe Brian Gutekunst drafted Jordan Love. For all we know it was his henchman Jon Eric-Sullivan. For all we know Brian Gutekunst was delirious with COVID 19 at the time of 2020 draft and couldn’t make the call. Of course, this assumption has no basis in reality but neither does this notion that Gutekunst picked Kevin King when Ted was GM.
Look guys, if you want to tell each other Jordan Love can’t play, that Brian Gutekunst can’t draft, and that Aaron Rodgers is the best QB ever, knock yourself out. Ignore what you see on the field and be angry. The rest of us are getting excited. We see a team that doesn’t need Aaron Rodgers to to be successful. A team built by Brian Gutekunst. And that’s great to see for Packer fans everywhere. Not so much for the rest of you.
I’ve been wondering why we haven’t heard anything about the D line concerning Wyatt, Clark, Slayton.
Then i ran into this. Not sure how to read into it, but we don’t hear shit about the D line…..
“The Packers’ biggest question mark on defense is their line. Those questions run past whether Devonte Wyatt and TJ Slaton are ready to be starters or if there’s any proven depth on a second unit in which T.J. Ford and rookies Colby Wooden and Karl Brooks haven’t played in a regular-season game. Former Pro Bowler Kenny Clark is coming off a down season by his standards.” – Bill Huber
Such salty language Kevin. You keep this up and you’ll offend my delicate sensibilities.
Don’t know where you’ve been, but by all accounts Devante Wyatt is poised for a second year jump. While Brooks and Wooden have both flashed in camp and preseason games providing depth along the DL. Kenny Clark has been limited with back spasms. Since such reports coming from camp are beneath you, it’s unlikely you’d know.
As training camp comes to a close, the national media is all aboard the Jordan Love hype train. That’s what happens when you put together a solid camp and a couple of impressive preseason games. Not to mention a talented roster. Not hearing anyone else say we need years to know Christian Watson and Romeo Doubs can play.
Meanwhile, three of the four horsemen of the apocalypse, Kevin, Cheese, and MMSUCKS, without their beloved Aaron Rodgers and an organization run by fools and charlatans, are soothsaying that a return to the 70’s and 80’s is unavoidable. A bleak future indeed. They scoff at the notion you can glean any appreciable information from camp. “That’s just team propaganda,” they claim, come to us for the “real” story! Not based on facts of course, but their own personal preferences and prejudices.
^Pathetic P O S^
There’s a fact.
Here is another fact, from the NATIONAL MEDIA….
https://twitter.com/i/status/1687591893402558464
This is Adam Shein’s opinion, not my own.
Just so there isn’t any gray area and misinformation (lies) form the galactically stupid.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1687591893402558464
Lets not forget…..
“When Love threw a boneheaded interception during a Packers training camp practice to start the week, the team’s Pro Bowl CB delivered a message that he seemingly wanted the quarterback, the entire offense, and even the media to hear.
Jaire Alexander tells the QB to wake up, loud enough for everyone to hear.” – Tim Crean.
All aboard the Jordan Love hype train!!
Jordan Love does have at least 1 or 2 things going for him playing in the NFC North.
1) The Bears, vikings, and Detroit have a ‘combined’ 1 Super Bowl win.
The same as Aaron Rodgers
Not exactly a history of winning franchises.
2) What do the Bears, vikings, and Lions all have in common, besides being run badly?
Their defenses…SUCK
Perfect for a 1st year QB
2022 Defense rankings….
Bears (27th)
vikings (31st)
Lions (32nd)
Quick question now that we’re in the final preseason game and have had NOTHING of interest leading up to the season; Are we going to get some fucking writers around here or is the next visit my last as well?
The San Francisco 49ers gave up three number one picks and one third round pick to draft Trey Lance.
He just got traded to the Dallas Cowboys for a 4th round pick.
Had John Lynch drafted Jordan Love the year before he’d still have all those picks and what’s looking like a franchise QB. Now that would have been scary. Instead, after losing the SB, Lynch convinced himself he was just a WR away from winning it all. Not unlike many clueless Packer fans. Yet it was painfully obvious Jimmy Garappolo was never going to beat Patrick Mahomes in a repeat SB. And neither was Aaron Rodgers. Brian Gutekunst made the right call drafting Jordan Love. Even though some fans will never admin it.
^Pathetic P O S^
Are we doing the ‘ Had’s, If’s,Shoulda, Coulda’s’ again..lol?
Had the Packers traded with San Fran when they called for Rodgers, they could have had all those draft picks, plus.
Had i got the 6 numbers in Powerball correct last night, i’d be a rich, rich man today.
Anything else galactically stupid we should discuss?
“Even though some fans will never admin it.”
Stay in school kids!!
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Did anyone see Jordan Love today?
OMFG!!
Tell me this guy isn’t the Packers next franchise QB..I dare you!!
I understand it’s just pre season, but i’m seeing greatness in front of my very own eyes.
Usually i like to see a QB prove himself in the regular season, ya know…maybe more than 3 minutes in the 4th quarter in a decided game.
But i watch Jlo….and i’m watching, dare i say….a future living legend?
I believe so people.
Get ready for Love.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqMCZfyDLO8
The point being Kevin, like the Chicago Bears trading up to take Justin Fields, the 49ers gave up a king’s ransom to move up to take Trey Lance. With neither prospect appreciably better than Jordan Love. Who cost Gutekunst just a 4th rounder to move up to get him. It’s called value Kevin. Whether Jordan Love is the next franchise QB or a bust he doesn’t set the organization back 5 years or more like the 49ers and the Chicago trade if they miss. It’s just sheer luck that Brock Purdy worked out for San Francisco.
Meanwhile, Denzel Mims was cut by the Lions last week. Denzel Mims along with head case Chase Claypool, the very average DJ Hamler, and Tee Higgins were the pick of the WR litter when the Packers were on the clock with the 26th pick in the first round of the 2020 draft. Higgins is by far and away the best of the lot, but not exactly a difference maker either. Jordan Love was always a risk worth taking at the end of the first round even if it wasn’t popular at the time. Now it’s looking like a shrewd move.
^Pathetic P O S^
Ok, i’m sorry, but i just can’t help it….Saturdays, wtf moment
I’m watching Larry McCarren interview Rashan Gary at halftime.
McCarren: The game was taken away from you, do you find that you appreciate it even more now?
Gary: Absolutely. It is crazy, everyone sayin enjoy it while you in it and don’t take advantage of it.
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So, i’m thinking, was he trying to say ‘don’t take it for granted’ ?
Kids…Don’t under estimate the value of a college education.
Holy shit.
My annual inquiry of Rashan Gary’s sports agency.
rahgary.com/sports-agency
Oops..right?
Using your NFL money to start up a agency and giving your Mom a job is easy.
Keeping it profitable and afloat, paying the overhead and your employee’s salaries and benefits out of your NFL checks is another story.
Getting clients and being successful is what it takes. It takes a staff with experience, knowledge, vision, and seriously good people skills to put that all together.
I can recall a person 4 years ago, predicting this.
Dream big i guess, but………..
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Now, if Rashan Gary could complete a whole season on the field as a starter with double digit sacks, then he might crack the top 10 in best edge rushers.
I will say Gary was at least on pace for 11 sacks last season.
But being ‘on pace’ is kind of like being paid for ‘potential’.
I hope his future on field performance is more successful than his sports agency was.
Maybe the 5th years a charm.
In other NFL News:
Rodgers throws a TD pass for the Jets….shocking
Meanwhile, in the same game, Tim Boyle goes 9/11 for 107 yards, 9.7 YPA , 2 TD’s and a 146.8 passer rating.
Obvious pre season MVP numbers.
For those wondering who Tim Boyle is. He was the undrafted QB who beat out 1st round draft pick Jordan Love for the #2 back up spot in 2020.
Not unlike what under achieving Sam Darnold did to 1st round pick Trey Lance recently.
Lets try this again, for at least the 3rd or 4th time.
How many more times with this shit Princess?
Who cares who the pick of the litter was at the 26th pick.
The Packers traded up for Love.
They couldn’t have traded up for a receiver?
Was it against the law, a new NFL rule?
Is this another case of Tommi logic?
It’s not who was available at 26, they didn’t care.
They had their sights on Love before the draft started.
Fuck….read and learn before you speak.
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Let me (try to) educate you short bus.
It isn’t sheer luck that Brock Purdy worked out for San Francisco.
Brock Purdy didn’t propel the 49ers to a 13-4 record.
Brock Purdy didn’t propel the 49ers into the NFCCG.
The team did.
The GM did with building a strong roster.
The defense did, the 49ers had the #1 defense in the league and…only gave up 16.3 PPG
Here’s the funny part…they did it without needing 8 #1 draft picks.
They ranked 7th in rushing.
They were 13th in passing offense (the weakest part of their team.
But you claim…..
“It’s just sheer luck that Brock Purdy worked out for San Francisco” – Short bus
Yes Gomer…it was just sheer luck and Brock Purdy that made the 49ers successful!!
Lets all thank the galactically stupid for his contribution today….lol
Making friends, down the hall…….😉
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“Or, of forcing a hopeless throw to a blanketed, double-covered “trusted” receiver on third or fourth down…” – CentralPA
That trusted receiver is one of the best, if not the best.
What are you saying CentralPA, A NFL QB doesn’t need to trust his receivers? Is that it?
How long have you been watching NFL football, a week?
Brady, Manning, Favre…they didn’t need to trust their pass catchers to run the right route, have the right speed, timing?
I learn something everyday….i guess….lol
That ‘trusted receiver’, helped secure two MVP’s for Rodgers.
When he threw 85TD’s against 9 interceptions in those two seasons.
Maybe that doesn’t impress you CentralPA?
Should he have been…better?
I have to wonder….could Aaron Rodgers possibly know more than you CentalPA, about being a successful QB in the NFL?
Is that possible, could it be?…..lol
It’s a pity you couldn’t have gone to Green Bay last season and ‘coached up’ Rodgers.
Ya know…showing him how to do his job, showing him the error of his ways.
I LOVE YOU GUYS….Never change!! 🙄