Now that the Packers version of Punxsutawney Phil has emerged from his cave and told us he did not see his shadow and his winter home in Green Bay may be moving on to the fast moving and high scrutiny of the Big Apple, fans should ask themselvesâŠwill we miss him?
Aaron Rogers brought a Lombardi Trophy back to Green Bay and was a four time MVP. Playoffs, until 2022, were a given. Beating the Bears and Detroit a yearly tradition. The transition from Favre to Rodgers produced for the most part 20+ years of winning seasons. Rodgers got Ted Thompson into the Packer Hall of Fame and maybe, someday, his bust enshrined in Canton.
Brian Gutekunstâs chance to be immortalized by the Green Bay faithful will now be driven by Jordan Love. After three years with only a learnerâs permit, Love now gets the keys to the yellow and green Camaro with the big âGâ logo.
But a lingering question is, will we miss Aaron Rodgers? When Favre made sufficient retirement gestures coupled with complaints about training camp and preseason reps to draw the ire of the Packer front office, the fans still wanted more. As training camp began and Favre changed his mind, again, fans spat insults and saliva towards Rodgers, blaming him for the loss of a Lambeau legend. Favreâs trade only fueled the animosity toward Rodgers and led to game by game comparisons. When Rodgers gives his fair well, it is doubtful that fans will blame Love. It is unlikely that many will vocalize any longing to have Rodgers back in earshot of Love. Perhaps we could chalk that up to lessons learned. Fans that spewed harsh words and worse in Rodgers direction should be ashamed of their actions. No excuses, no attempts to deflect responsibility. A sad sliver of Packer fandom history.
But a true reason there will be a quiet response has more to do with Rodgers and the 2022 season. The power negotiations after his MVP year combined with his lack of participation in the off season program would have been washed away with another winning season. But 2022 was not a winning season. A home loss to Detroit to end the season summed up the Packer woes. Fans walked out of Lambeau that Sunday knowing Rodgers could not save this Packer team. He is 40 years old. He is almost one dimensional, his running ability has evaporated the last few years. And he is only getting older. And then there is his off field personality.
I for one will miss the off the field Aaron Rodgers. In a day when athletes are pressured to conform so that they can âmaximize their brandâ Rodgers was a breath of fresh air. He spoke his mind whether it improved his image or not. Just being willing to throw out his recent four day hibernation is an example of his candid nature. While some may criticize him for not disclosing his vaccination status, he clearly knew that his stance had the potential for team distraction and he tried to answer the question without creating an uproar. When the truth hit the fan, it would have been easy for him to acquiesce, to retract, to apologize, basicallyâŠto lie. He did not, and he was roasted by many. But now from the lens of 2023, I donât care what his stance was and I think those that pointed fingers at the unvaccinated and labeled them killers, may have had more political motives than health concerns. Say what you will, Aaron Rodgers is/was a unique player and unique person. His passing skills as a Packer were a thing of beauty. In his younger days he could run and he did with great anticipation. He was Green Bayâs leader and he was a winner. I will miss his passes. I will miss his running. I will miss his competitive nature . And I will miss the man, the quotes, the little smile when he knew he was ruffling a reporterâs feathers. I hope I do not miss the winning tradition that he was handed by Brett Favre and carried as well as any quarterback wearing green and gold since Bart Starr. Good luck to you Mr. Rodgers. I will miss your neighborhood.
I agree and Rodgers was vlllfied for being himself.
Meanwhile it gave the talking heads plenty of fodder.
Actually Bill he did lie. Or if you prefer âmisleadâ the public on being âimmunized â over COVID. Then played the victim when he got caught ânot telling the truth.â Itâs a free country, get vaccinated or donât, I donât care either way. There were many who did not and said so. I can respect that. But if you donât get vaccinated, or get caught in a lie about it, then donât cry because youâre treated differently. And donât compare it to the holocaust. He was never persecuted or the victim. Aaron Rodgers was never as smart as he believed himself to be. That smugness rubbed many the wrong way. You had to tolerate his antics as long as he was winning 13 games a season. The minute that stopped he had to go. Imagine having a QB thatâs all about football. Instead of one that constantly brow beats you into convincing you how smart he is. Itâll be a refreshing change.
Tom M 3 days ago
Itâs a free country, get vaccinated or donât, I donât care either way.
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You tell them Tommi!!
You don’t care do you?!?!
That must explain why you’re still crying and whining about it and bringing it up in March 2023.
Packers made their big FA move. Signed new long snapper to $1.4 mil contract. Gute’s big FA move. Definitely Super Bowl bound now.
YEA!!!!
Good write up Paul.
Where to begin….
Lets address the 2022 season…winning, and why they didn’t.
First, we got to see a O line getting beat back 8 yards.
Couple that with an empty wide receiver room.
Still no tight end.
Extending training camp throughout the regular season because we needed to develop rookie receivers (in season). Not ideal, even though Tommi would describe it as, draft and develop….lmao. Always entertaining đ€
Rodgers didn’t help himself much not playing up to Rodgers standards.
But to a wise person, his injuries and the topics above have to be taken into account.
I’ll save my farewells when he is a New York Jet. Will he be?..probably.
But stranger things have happened in the NFL.
I mean….keep in mind, this is Gute and Murphy.
Today, as i write this, Rodgers is a Green Bay Packer.
I would have thought these trade compensation details would have been agreed upon weeks before when the Packers said they were talking to teams about a trade.
Again…Gute/Murphy
Mr. training wheels, and Mr. in over my head and socially awkward.
Once again Kevin, you have no idea what youâre talking about. The Packers arenât in any hurry to get a trade done. They donât have to pay Rodgers until September. This contract was structured for someone else to pay him. Which was smart considering how all you idiots bitched about Rodgers contract. Itâs actually a non issue. They now hold all the leverage. Rodgers sounded more like a woman scorned yesterday on Pat McAfee. Heâs done with the Packers and the Packers are gladly done with him. The Packers could wait and trade him after June 1st. They have their starter in Jordan Love while the Jets lost their starter to Miami and all the big name FA QBâs are gone. Joe Douglas will have to come to terms with whatever Brian Gutekunst wants. Make the Jets come to you, the deadline isnât until September.
Holy fuck balls Batman! Tom used the proper form of YOU’RE!
If it isnât the little apostrophe queen himself. Where have you been Ferris? Youâve left Kevin and Cheese all alone to defend Erinâs honor. They need all the help they can get.
Tom M 23 hours ago
Once again Kevin, you have no idea what youâre talking about.
This contract was structured for someone else to pay him.
They now hold all the leverage.
So entertaining….
So they guaranteed Rodgers 101million dollars, thinking someone else will pay 60% of it?….lol
The Packers hold all the leverage? Until….
A) The Jets say no thanks, and walk away.
B) The Packers think they have all the time in the world, until the Jets draft a QB in the first round because the Packers are dicking them around.
Leaving Gute and Murphy caught with each others dick in their hands.
Then San Fran comes to the rescue and gives them a 3rd round pick for Rodgers.
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Tom M 23 hours ago
Once again Kevin, you have no idea what youâre talking about.
This contract was structured for someone else to pay him.
That is just hilarious…from someone telling someone else they don’t know what they’re are talking about.
Structured for someone else to pay it…lmao
Will I miss Aaron Rodgers? You’re damn right I will.
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Sixty is right around the corner for me and I’ve been watching Packer football since the late 60s. About as long as I can remember. So for being able to watch two back to back hall of famers play as QB here for decades, yes I will indeed miss the play of Aaron Rodgers. I remember all too well what the 70s and 80s were like.
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To Aaron Rodgers I would say thanks. Thanks for those many many enjoyable performances and thanks for being a great Green Bay Packer. I’d wish him well in life and hope for the best for him with the Jets. I don’t have any worries about him and the supposedly vaunted Big Apple media. He’s no babe in the woods rookie. He’s an intelligent man who is probably much smarter than most of those who choose journalism as a vocation. It could be fun to watch.
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I’ve always loved the play of Aaron Rodgers and yes, I was disappointed a few times as well. But in the aggregate he was the best this team had for an awful long time. I never got into and never cared about who he was and what he was apart from football. I never understood why any of us should have given two shits about how he wanted to spend his time and who he wanted to spend it with. All the articles and posts in the past about different girlfriends and other rumors never mattered at all. The preoccupation that some had over matters of his family relationships was really none of our business. Probably the one and only time I ever got critical of him in this regard was when he allowed that piece of garbage Marty Bennett to invade his head. I thought that made him look a bit foolish but it passed about as fast as, Marty’s time in Green Bay.
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Yes, he had opinions on matters that most in football don’t have the brain time or interest for and he shared those. When he had something to say about something he didn’t shy away from it and that caused him to defy a bunch of labels people would try to pin on him. He is basically his own man and he’d let you know about, conformity be damned.
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For all the talk of being a diva, I just didn’t see it comparison to the guy that came before him. Off the field he wasn’t she-banging coeds down the road in Oshkosh while a family was home in Green Bay. There was never any talk about alcohol or drugs making his life difficult. He didn’t require a personal locker room. He just chose to be his own man. I still laugh when people bring up the OTA nonsense of this last year. With one receiver on a hold out, another rehabbing a knee, a rookie coming in and requiring surgery – he was supposed to come play catch and share stuff with a few later round guys who may or may not be assured of playing.
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For those still twirling in the wake of the immunization/vaccination thing you are the idiots. Time is showing more and more each day that young and healthy people like kids and athletes in supreme physical condition did not really need a questionable jab. He is being proven more correct on this and those who still cling to the original controversy are showing themselves to be the easy fodder for the gaslighting crowd. In retrospect I’m glad he took his stand on the issue and had the guts to stay with it.
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I wish him well with the Jets and I’ll be rooting for him. I hope they do reach high places in this shrinking window of time he has available. I wish the man well in life in general. Football is a tough sport and hurts bodies and shortens life spans for many. He gave everything and paid for it several times. Many years of a good life ahead is what I would wish him.
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Now we shall see. Most all of what we will have to deal with is a creation of the front office in Green Bay. Remember, they wanted this. Aaron Rodgers wanted to stay in Green Bay and retire in Green Bay. Yes, I am in the crowd of those who believe this team could have made better personnel moves in several drafts and we would have seen much different outcomes. That’s history and those arguments have been hashed over many many times here. That being said, I wish all the best to Jordan Love.
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We were really blessed and lucky to have one of the all time great quarterbacks of football here in Green Bay for 18 years. Good luck Aaron Rodgers and from the bottom of my heart as a Packer fan – thank you!
To each their own ladies. I prefer Patrick Mahomes. All about football and just wins championships. Over Aaron Rodgers, the pseudo intellectual, drama queen who could never win the big game or take responsibility when he played small in those big games. Theyâll be no Kevin or Cheese in New York making excuses for him. And make no mistake, heâs going to face adversity in the AFC. Rodgers never does well when challenged, this could get ugly. To your point about COVID Mitch, Iâll say this. It was never about his health, but rather those he came in contact with. The elderly, those immunosuppressed, those with co morbidities. Sometimes you have to be considerate of others and not make it all about yourself. Kirk Cousins refused to get vaccinated and had to followed strict NFL guidelines because of it. He didnât complain and followed the rules. Delvin Funchess took the NFL season off because of COVID and it cost him his career. Those are two extremes but those players were willing to make a stand and tell us what they believed in. While Aaron Rodgers ambiguity put others health at risk. Shame on him.
“Kirk Cousins refused to get vaccinated and had to followed strict NFL guidelines because of it.”.
(Stay in school kids)
” Delvin Funchess took the NFL season off because of COVID and it cost him his career.”
DEVIN’S career was over, because he took off a year for covid?
Is that why?
San Francisco 49ers
On November 24, 2021, Funchess was signed to the San Francisco 49ers practice squad.[70] He was released on December 6
Funchess said that as his football career options were dwindling, he was switching his focus and training to basketball so that he can fulfill his childhood dream of playing in the NBA.[74]
Funchess got paid 10 million in 2019 from the Colts and caught 3 passes.
Funchess was under contract with the Packers for 2 seasons and never played.
Then the Packers released him after his chinky/chinkie slurs.
What cost Funchess his career wasn’t a year off, it was because nobody wanted him.
Funchess NFL career is over at 28 years old because the 49ers and the Lions didn’t think he was worth having around, and nobody else was calling
Tom, think for once in your life.
“Over Aaron Rodgers, who could never win the big game.” – Princess
Except…..when he did win the big game.
You’ll have to excuse Tommi, he’s not real big on the truth or accuracy
Tom M 6 hours ago
To each their own ladies. I prefer Patrick Mahomes.
Then go be a Chiefs fan, it’s not like your loyal to one team.
Do some traveling Tommi, hop on some more bandwagons. See the World!!
” It was never about his health, but rather those he came in contact with. The elderly, those immunosuppressed, those with co morbidities. Sometimes you have to be considerate of others and not make it all about yourself.”
“While Aaron Rodgers ambiguity put others health at risk. Shame on him.”
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Oh shut up with your romantic shaming. You whine more than a newborn. Rodgers knew what his COVID status was more than anyone he came in contact with because he was tested every morning. Then, the reason he got COVID was because he contracted it from a teammate that had been vaccinated. Gee, how did that happen?
Romantic shaming? Is that even a thing? How about Rodgers just tells the truth and is subject to the NFL strict COVID protocols like everyone else, Cheese. Or do we just trust Aaron Rodgers to do the right thing with his head full of internet conspiracy theories? His body, his choice but the rules are to protect all of us. He doesnât get to make his own rules because heâs Aaron Rodgers. Stop your childish hero worship. He lied and he got caught in a lie. You canât justify or romanticize that. No matter how hard you try. Next youâll be crying he was the victim. Pack your bags and head to New York with Kevin. The three of you are meant to be together.
Tom M 5 hours ago
To each their own ladies. I prefer Patrick Mahomes. That sexy grin he always flashes, like it was meant for just me alone. What i wouldn’t give to run my fingers through that mans sexy curly black hair. I could do that for hours, or the rest of my life.
Saying Delvin Funchess has an NFL career is like saying Aaron Rodgers is the GOAT. Itâs like saying Tim Boyle is better than Jordan Love. Itâs like saying Kurt Benkert is an NFL QB. Itâs like saying Rashan Gary is a bust. Do I continue Kevin? Delvin Funchess did his career no favors by not playing in his prime over COVID. His career, if you want to call it that, suffered tremendously. Would it have turned out this way anyway? Perhaps, but it sure didnât help to step away from the game at 27 for a year in his athletic prime. As for Patrick Mahomes, at 27, his legacy has already surpassed anything Aaron Rodgers has done at 39, and without all the horseshit. We donât have to look thru the lens of decades old history to tell us this. Present day tells us this and the gap between Mahomes and Rodgers only widens with time. Now start working on your massage skills, Kevin. Youâre needed in New York.
Please, continue…
Continue misspelling Funchess name like a moron because you don’t know any better.
Funchess was 26, when he “stepped away”. But why would you be interested in truth and accuracy.
Or spelling someone’s name right, putting that GED to good use.
On Wednesdayâs installment of ESPNâs âGet Up,â Schefter said the Packers want two first-round picks for Rodgers â similar to what the Rams gave up to acquire Matthew Stafford from the Lions in January 2021.
Hours later, NFL Networkâs Tom Pelissero reported that Green Bay is not seeking multiple first-round picks âlike other QBs (Russell Wilson, Matthew Stafford) have commanded in recent years.â
For maybe a 1 year player?
If i’m the Jets, i’m telling the Packers to kick rocks.
nypost.com/2023/03/16/jets-packers-far-apart-on-aaron-rodgers-trade/
Why trade parameters weren’t discussed, before the Jets flew out to see Rodgers is beyond me.
Joe Douglass has pulled of some decent trades for the Jets. He should know better.
Maybe the Jets are as stupid as the Browns…idk.
What i want to know also, is how much of the 59 million are the Packers asking the Jets to pay.
I’d give the Packers a 2nd round, and pay half his guarantee, or i walk and wait for the Packers to blink, because i think the Packers know Rodgers will not go anywhere else.
Again, the 2nd round pick (or a first if they’re willing) and half (30 million) should have been discussed before the Rodgers trip. The Jets fumbled on this also.
It’s amazing how inept some of these people are in negotiation skills.
Mark Murphy vs Woody Johnson….
What could go wrong right? đ€
That…or they can keep him or just release him and move on with Love. Tell me how that works out.
This situation was a Packers problem, not a Jets problem.
It is not just here, it is on many other sites. The reason(s) people are trying to justify a hatred for a QB who delivered a Super Bowl and so many other things while playing for 15 years. The petty, childish, and stupid ass things I’m reading has me just puzzled and so many not even related to the records and the on field performances.
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Look, I’m not happy at the man Brett Favre has become in regards to his scandal in Mississippi, but I’m damn glad I got to watch Brett Favre as the QB of the Packers. I can appreciate what Green Bay had with Aaron Rodgers and still completely understand and be fine with the trade. I get it, it’s a business, it’s the money/contract/cap, and yes – it is also the age factor. So be it. It is the NFL and every player becomes surplus at some point in time. But to read some of this nonsense that some folks post up I just shake my head. I can think of another franchise where they absolutely worship a guy who was involved in a murder for crissakes! That goes way beyond someone’s cocky attitude or supposed smarminess rubbing you the wrong way folks.
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Hey Packer fans, you were lucky. You were damn lucky and I say it even probably got started with Don Majkowski. If and when this trade deal is done it is when the rubber will really meet the road. Mark Murphy might get off/out easy since he is such a short timer and retirement is right around the corner for him. This team moving onto to the Jordan Love era is moving into somewhat of a rebuild or re-calibration. You guys trust Murphy to shepherd the football side of this? Gute maybe, just maybe, could have kinda sorta – sorta kinda finally got a draft mostly right after how many? Think he can do it again? As a fan, I hope so, but based on what I seen the first few years I’ll still be a bit skeptical. He better hit on the draft since he has little money to play with for free agency because of the cap situation he and the front office put this team into. Now we shall really see if Matt LaFleur is indeed some new age coaching genius since he will have his QB – calling his plays – without question or audible or dirty look or eye roll. Let’s just see how this all works out.
If Iâm Gutekunst, I hold out for a one and a two. Not necessarily in the same draft. The Jets, like Kevin, are delusional. They think Rodgers will take them to the SB. While Kevin lives in a world where Delvin Funchess catches TD passes from Kurt Benkert and Rodgers reins supreme as the GOAT. Gutekunst has to do whatâs best for the Green Bay Packers NOT Aaron Rodgers. Time is on the Packers side. The first deadline is April 27th, the draft. If a deal isnât done by then, then thereâs no need for one until June 2nd when Rodgers cap hit it cut in half. In the meantime the natives are getting restless in New York demanding a resolution. Rodgers, who now acts like a woman scorned, will not return to the Packers with his buddies gone and Jordan Love the starter. Thatâs not even a threat. I expect a deal before the draft. After making the Packers wait in the off season these past couple of years, itâs Rodgers turn to get a taste of his own medicine.
Tom M 4 hours ago
If Iâm Gutekunst, i’d have a life.
Making friends….down the hall đ
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March 18, 2023 at 01:28 pm
10 thumbs down!!
YEA BABY!! đ
Living in reality isn’t it all its cracked up to be …i guess.
Maybe i need to chug some lemon lime kool aid with gold sprinkles đ
LOL! Your buds down the hall are more delusional than certain posters here. Rodgers sucks so bad we can’t wait to get rid of him but my god the Packers have to get at least two first rounders in 2023, 2024 and maybe 2025. The Jets will give anything for one year of AR. My god people, stop talking so stupid.
“But a lingering question is, will we miss Aaron Rodgers?”
I was wondering exactly how to put that question in perspective, because frankly, if you think about the question, it just seems silly to me.
What if we asked the Lions if they miss their HOF QB’s. Or perhaps ask the Bears that same question.
If an older vikings fan were asked that question they might bring up Fran Tarkenton i’d imagine.
So i guess my point is, are us Packer fans that spoiled, that we wonder if we’ll miss a GBP HOF QB, a QB whose peers have spoken about him as one of the best.
Some teams never even had a HOF QB, we had 3 of them, 2 the last 30 years.
If you’re a Packer fan, do you realize how rare that is and how lucky we are to claim that?
So now the question is….will we miss him.
HELL NO!!….we’ll just pluck another one off the tree….lol
I’m going to guess that Mr. Edwards is somewhere under 45 years old, and may not know what this team even looks like w/o a HOF QB.
No matter how you feel about Favre, or Rodgers, i think that question is ridiculous on it’s face.
But that’s just me and my .02
What say you Rob Born?
“Some teams never even had a HOF QB, we had 3 of them, 2 the last 30 years.”
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Not to play devils advocate, but the Packers have actually had 4 HOF QB’s including Arnie Herber who played in Green Bay from 1930-1940.
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Arnie was a 4x NFL Champion who had a list of achievements such as-
First-team All-Pro (1932)
2Ă Second-team All-Pro (1935, 1936)
NFL All-Star (1939)
3Ă NFL passing yards leader (1932, 1934, 1936)
3Ă NFL passing touchdowns leader (1932, 1934, 1936)
NFL passer rating leader (1936)
NFL completion percentage leader (1936)
NFL 1930s All-Decade Team
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That’s a pretty stellar resume. I remember seeing a recent article that ranked teams based off of how many years of HOF QB play they had. The Packers were first just with the years from Starr, Favre, and Rodgers. I knew about Herber so I felt the article was lacking. I’m sure they’ll use some BS about how it doesn’t count because it wasn’t “modern era football” or that it was easy to win back then. If it was so easy why wasn’t everyone doing it?
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Just because QB’s weren’t putting up Drew Brees style stats in the 1930’s doesn’t mean it wasn’t impressive. Herber and Don Hutson revolutionized the passing game. I think that’s worth mentioning.
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Regardless, Packer fans have definitely been spoiled with HOF QB play and that’s even the case when they only count three QB’s. Counting the years from all 4 QB’s it’s around 50 years of HOF QB play. The Packers just had their 100th season not long ago. Almost half the existence of the organization has been HOF QB play. Spoiled is an understatement.
Well, look whoâs doing the âromanticizingâ now, Cheese. So what youâre saying is weâve had great players in the past and we will have them in the future? Is your theme donât worry, be happy? Then youâre ready for the next chapter in the Packers long line of success with Jordan Love? Or are we headed into the pits of hell fire and damnation at the hands of the evil Brian Gutekunst? You sound conflicted Cheese. You and Kevin seem so lost without your hero. What I want to know is what you guys are going to do if Jordan Love actually turns out to be good. After all the bitching and bashing youâll both be eating crow. Canât wait to see that dumpster fire.
Did you even read my post? Stating facts is not romanticizing, dumb ass. Arnie Herber is a HOF quarterback who has 4 NFL championships and is a member of the 1930’s All-Decade team. FACT. The Packers can say that they have had a HOF quarterback under center for almost 50% of their existance. FACT. I never said âdon’t worry, be happyâ or that because Green Bay has had HOF QB’s in the past that another HOF QB was guaranteed in the future. How the flying fuck did you come to that conclusion from my post? It was meant to show that the Packers have been VERY fortunate when it comes to quarteback play.
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Romanticizing is when you sensationalize a âheroic game winning driveâ by Patrick Mahomes that consisted of zero completed passes, and 11 rushing yards that were split between the QB and RB. Forget about the kick returner and the field goal kicker. Mahomes worked his unparalelled magic with that 5 yard scramble. Absolutely dreamy.
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Romanticizing is when you brag about Tom Brady LOSING a game because he ârallied the troopsâ while having to play behind a second string left tackle and having to throw the ball to (gasp) a second string WR. Dreamboat city!
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âThen youâre ready for the next chapter in the Packers long line of success with Jordan Love? Or are we headed into the pits of hell fire and damnation at the hands of the evil Brian Gutekunst? â
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My post had nothing to do with Jordan Love or Gutekunst. Nice try though. What I do know is that if Love doesn’t turn out to be a good QB you’re going to disappear and not respond to anyone like you always do when you get called out. And if he does turn out to be a decent QB you’re going to run your mouth up and down about how you knew it all along. So either way, all of us here at TotalPackers lose because 1.) the Packers either end up with a shitty QB, or 2.) we all have to listen to you talk out of your ass. That’s if you haven’t run everyone off the site by then.
Damn!!
It’s not that often that an adult gets exposed as having the mentality of an 8 year old, and worse yet…..
Can’t defend himself.
Because listening to you and Kevin talk out your ass is so much better. Taking us on a trip down memory lane sure sounds romanticizing to me, Cheese. Maybe you and Kevin can hook up for a little âromantic shaming.â In the privacy of your momâs double wide of course. What happens in your mobile home stays in your mobile home! I just come here for the belly laughs, and you two never disappoint!
So angry Tom Moshier…..
Kids, lesson of the day.
DANGER: You make the viking fan angry, at your own peril.
SKOL!!
Now, for more important things to discuss than Tommi’s chronic anger issues.
What’s going on with this trade? This over the hill 39 year old player for a draft pick…how hard can that be?
Surprising….with all the NFL trading experience of team Murphy/Gutee
How about….get it done already, how hard can it be?
Jets, give the Packers your 43rd overall pick. Split Rodgers fully guaranteed money…done.
That took me less than 30 seconds
I don’t know why Murphy/Gutee are stalling.
Are they….
A) Trying to figure out how to do an NFL trade.
B) Trying to get advice from Giselle’s psychic.
C) Still reading..Dummies Guide to NFL Trades.
D) Did they read an article from some gutterball who said the Packers held the leverage.
Get this done so i don’t have to come back in here and say…..
http://www.google.com/search?q=well+we%27re+waiting&gs_ivs=1#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:7c979c57,vid:Z0YIJQ1jgEI
Man, if Tom had the capacity for reading comprehension that would be scathing. You and P4FL should really follow my example on this one. He’s to damn dumb for logic. Don’t waste your time engaging because he inserts his own thoughts as facts. If you don’t agree with one thing, you believe everything he’s against, even things you’ve never commented about.
What say you Tommi…
Is this true, are you too damn dumb to be logical?
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Lol, Tom has nothing of value to respond with so his rebuttal is literally the equivalent of âI know you are but what am I?â
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âNo, YOUâRE the one talking out of YOUR ass! No, YOUâRE the one romanticizing!â
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Then he has to follow up with some lame ass sexual insult like heâs still in second grade. How riveting.
Apparently my last post didn’t go through?
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Lol, Tom has nothing of value to respond with nor can he deny anything I said, so his rebuttal is literally the equivalent of “I know you are but what am I?”
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“No, YOU’RE the one talking out of YOUR ass! No, YOU’RE the one who is romanticizing!”
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Then he has to follow up with some sort of lame ass sexual insult as if he was still in the second grade. Riveting stuff here folks.
This fucking site….
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Sorry for the double post.
Amen Cheese!
Thirty two year old WR Adam Thielen signed with Carolina over the weekend. The former Minnesota Viking was released. He was the Vikings version of the Packers Jordy Nelson who was also released at 32. I find this significant. It was the Vikings who traded their high second round pick that allowed Gutekunst to select Christian Watson. Now imagine if the Vikings had kept that pick and took Watson. Christian Watson and Justin Jefferson would have given the Vikings the best WR duo in all of football. Knowing Thielen was near the end of the line shows lack of self awareness from the Viking GM. I donât know who or what the Viking GM used those two second round picks on he got from the Packers. But if it was used for defense it didnât help.
This…straight from Corn Cob University.
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Tom M 1 week ago
Itâs unlikely that trade compensation is holding things up.
Let me explain how this works Kevin, and to the rest of you ladies who are clueless regarding this trade. There are two main factors why Aaron Rodgers played like shit last year. Number one, heâs old, his skill set has greatly deteriorated with age. He is no longer the player he once was. Number two, he couldnât be bothered to participate in any offseason programs to work with his new receivers. It showed on the field to the detriment of the team. Evidently a 150 million dollar contract extension wasnât sufficient motivation for Aaron Rodgers. This season, Rodgers with Jets will look a lot like last season with the Packers for the same two reasons. First, heâs still old and washed up. And secondly, Brian Gutekunst is under no obligation to get a motivated, revengeful Aaron Rodgers to New York to begin working with his new team. Gutekunst doesnât work for the Jets, he isnât Rodgers agent. In short, the longer this goes on, the more it greatly hampers the Jets and Aaron Rodgers. Unless he gets the draft picks he wants, Gutekunst doesnât make this trade doesnât go thru until after June 2nd for cap considerations. Thereâs more at play here than a simple trade. But of course, you simpletons canât see it.
This place has turned into a Packers blog equivalent of intemperate four-year old’s running a bad day care center. No one’s minding the kids as they turn the place into an interpretation of Lord Of The Flies.
As accurate as that may be. It’s about 2 years too late đ
Woody Johnson and Jets fans truly believe theyâre just a QB away from being a SB team and that Aaron Rodgers is their man. If thatâs the case, then Rodgers is worth the asking price. What I find interesting is not you, Savage 57, or Kevin, or Cheese, or Ferris, or anyone else that posts here believes Aaron Rodgers will get the Jets to a SB. Why? Because like me, youâve seen Rodgers play in the playoffs over the last decade. Rodgers himself doesnât believe heâs a SB QB but rather talks in terms of winning another MVP. What Rodgers provides is making the Jets relevant. Theyâll be talked about endlessly on podcasts and sports shows. Theyâll get a bunch of prime time games. And under the best case scenario theyâre a one and done wild card team. So how much is that worth? Evidently itâs yet to be determined. But whatâs just as likely is Rodgers crashes and burns in New York and they run him out of town like Favre. Because the Jets fan base will be in no mood for the endless excuses on why he couldnât win the big game that so many of you here so creatively express.
You sure know a lot…mad props.
Have you been talking to Giselle’s psychic again?
The Jets and their fan base haven’t seen a SuperBowl game since 1969.
The Jets and their fan base haven’t seen a playoff game since Jan. 2011.
Tommi tells us……
“But whatâs just as likely is Rodgers crashes and burns in New York and they run him out of town like Favre. Because the Jets fan base will be in no mood for the endless excuses on why he couldnât win the big game” – Gutterball Tommi
(Apparently… Tommi assumes a SB appearance with Rodgers)
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Lol…YEP….The Jets, one of the NFL’s great winning franchises.
If Rodgers doesn’t win a Super Bowl for the Jets. According to Tommi, the fan base will run Rodgers out of town!!
Just like Favre!!
Because……the Jets fanbase will be in NO MOOD why Rodgers couldn’t win the Big game!!
LOL….They’ll be in NO MOOD people!!….because the Jets fan base are accustomed to winning Tommi?
The Jets fan base will NOT put up with Rodgers shenanigans!! đ
That was well stated Savage57. It brought a smile to my face. Thanks!
Tom M 3 hours ago
Let me explain how this works Kevin, and to the rest of you ladies who are clueless regarding this trade.
There are two main factors why Aaron Rodgers played like shit last year.
Number one, heâs old, his skill set has greatly deteriorated with age. He is no longer the player he once was 12 months ago when he won back to back MVP’s.
For those of you Ladies who are confused, MVP stands for Most valuable Player…in the entire league.
Old players can play to the highest level in the NFL at 37 and 38 years old, but once you turn 39 like Rodgers, THEN…you’re too old. Take notes people
So yea…Rodgers fault.
Number two, he couldnât be bothered to participate in any offseason programs to work with his new receivers.
The reason that was important is because the receiver room was emptied out (Rodgers fault).
For you Ladies, that means depleted of talent to the point where the Packers had to rely on a rookie draft class for offensive production.
That’s HOW the Championship teams do it. Holding training camp during the season for the newbies.
I accurately call that….draft and develop.
Lets be honest, if Rodgers worked in the off season with the new receivers (on his time), then of course, both receivers would have been fully up to speed by week 1. Gaining 1,300 yards each, with 28 TD’s between them with no drops, easily.
Again, Rodgers fault.
I’m sure a couple of you Ladies will bring up the fact that the O line was a sieve, that Rodgers played with a broken thumb and sore ribs, that Doubs almost led the league in drops.
That the defense, full of #1 picks and high priced free agent talent, can’t get it done.
Some of you Ladies might even bring up Brian Gutekunst and Mark Murphy.
Well i have news for you.
None of that matters!!
Those things have nothing to do with wins and loses.
The only person responsible for wins and losses is one Erin Charles Rodgers.
What the rest of the team, or the GM does has no bearing on success or failure, wins or losses
I’ve been telling you Ladies this for years.
It’s all Rodgers fault.
There you have it, praise God if you must, but…
You have been educated by Tom M.
You’re welcome.
Thanks Tom….
That was so informative, i took notes.
How old were you when you realized you were so gifted intellectually?
Just curious….you brought up the trade in your first sentence.
What about it?
Was their a point to be made?
Kevin, you can talk about those MVP years all you want, but how did Rodgers look last year? How did he play against the Lions? He wins either game and your boy is in the playoffs. Heâs no longer the player he once was. Come to terms with it. Lashing out at me or throwing a tantrum because the trade is taking longer than you would like doesnât change the fact the Rodgers best days are behind him.
Just curiousâŠ.you brought up the trade in your first sentence.
What about it?
Was their a point to be made?
Tom M 20 hours ago
Woody Johnson and Jets fans truly believe theyâre just a QB away from being a SB team and that Aaron Rodgers is their man. If thatâs the case, then Rodgers is worth the asking price.
What’s Rodgers worth in this league in your opinion Princess.
Your views on Rodgers are well known.
You’re the expert on all that is Aaron Rodgers.
What’s he worth to you?
A snickers bar?
A box of ice cream sandwiches?
A frozen Home Run pizza?
A T-shirt from the clearance rack at Walmart?
BTW….to claim Rodgers is worth the asking price, wouldn’t you first need to know….the asking price?
Are you sitting in on negotiations?
Did you read a magic 8 ball?
When you woke up this morning, did your sister roll over and tell you?
Maybe Gute/Murphy told you, or you got it from your psychic.
Or is this just another day we’ve grown accustomed to in Tom Moshiers make believe world.
The Elijah Moore trade now gives the Jets the 11th and 12th pick in the second round. Those two picks packaged together gives a trade value of a lower 1st round pick. This would be acceptable trade value for Rodgers with a conditional future pick in next years draft depending on how Rodgers plays and if he plays for another year after the coming season. For the Packers, that would give them 4 picks in the top 45. They could address pass rusher, TE, safety, and WR all by the middle of round two. Then go for depth on rounds 3-7. For the Jets, they keep the 13 pick to draft a LT with the OL being the weakest link on the team. It would be a win/win for all involved. Itâs sounds like the Jets have been shopping Moore since his altercation with Mike LaFleur. Iâd bet the Jets offered Moore and their second round pick for Rodgers and Mike told his brother Matt, âyou donât want this guy, heâll be trouble.â But thatâs just a guess. Iâm sure Gutekunst prefers picks over players. This is all going to work out. Both sides are motivated. Itâs been in the Packers best interest to wait. Everyone gets excited over nothing.