Now that the Packers version of Punxsutawney Phil has emerged from his cave and told us he did not see his shadow and his winter home in Green Bay may be moving on to the fast moving and high scrutiny of the Big Apple, fans should ask themselves…will we miss him?
Aaron Rogers brought a Lombardi Trophy back to Green Bay and was a four time MVP. Playoffs, until 2022, were a given. Beating the Bears and Detroit a yearly tradition. The transition from Favre to Rodgers produced for the most part 20+ years of winning seasons. Rodgers got Ted Thompson into the Packer Hall of Fame and maybe, someday, his bust enshrined in Canton.
Brian Gutekunst’s chance to be immortalized by the Green Bay faithful will now be driven by Jordan Love. After three years with only a learner’s permit, Love now gets the keys to the yellow and green Camaro with the big “G” logo.
But a lingering question is, will we miss Aaron Rodgers? When Favre made sufficient retirement gestures coupled with complaints about training camp and preseason reps to draw the ire of the Packer front office, the fans still wanted more. As training camp began and Favre changed his mind, again, fans spat insults and saliva towards Rodgers, blaming him for the loss of a Lambeau legend. Favre’s trade only fueled the animosity toward Rodgers and led to game by game comparisons. When Rodgers gives his fair well, it is doubtful that fans will blame Love. It is unlikely that many will vocalize any longing to have Rodgers back in earshot of Love. Perhaps we could chalk that up to lessons learned. Fans that spewed harsh words and worse in Rodgers direction should be ashamed of their actions. No excuses, no attempts to deflect responsibility. A sad sliver of Packer fandom history.
But a true reason there will be a quiet response has more to do with Rodgers and the 2022 season. The power negotiations after his MVP year combined with his lack of participation in the off season program would have been washed away with another winning season. But 2022 was not a winning season. A home loss to Detroit to end the season summed up the Packer woes. Fans walked out of Lambeau that Sunday knowing Rodgers could not save this Packer team. He is 40 years old. He is almost one dimensional, his running ability has evaporated the last few years. And he is only getting older. And then there is his off field personality.
I for one will miss the off the field Aaron Rodgers. In a day when athletes are pressured to conform so that they can “maximize their brand” Rodgers was a breath of fresh air. He spoke his mind whether it improved his image or not. Just being willing to throw out his recent four day hibernation is an example of his candid nature. While some may criticize him for not disclosing his vaccination status, he clearly knew that his stance had the potential for team distraction and he tried to answer the question without creating an uproar. When the truth hit the fan, it would have been easy for him to acquiesce, to retract, to apologize, basically…to lie. He did not, and he was roasted by many. But now from the lens of 2023, I don’t care what his stance was and I think those that pointed fingers at the unvaccinated and labeled them killers, may have had more political motives than health concerns. Say what you will, Aaron Rodgers is/was a unique player and unique person. His passing skills as a Packer were a thing of beauty. In his younger days he could run and he did with great anticipation. He was Green Bay’s leader and he was a winner. I will miss his passes. I will miss his running. I will miss his competitive nature . And I will miss the man, the quotes, the little smile when he knew he was ruffling a reporter’s feathers. I hope I do not miss the winning tradition that he was handed by Brett Favre and carried as well as any quarterback wearing green and gold since Bart Starr. Good luck to you Mr. Rodgers. I will miss your neighborhood.
I agree and Rodgers was vlllfied for being himself.
Meanwhile it gave the talking heads plenty of fodder.
Actually Bill he did lie. Or if you prefer “mislead” the public on being “immunized “ over COVID. Then played the victim when he got caught “not telling the truth.” It’s a free country, get vaccinated or don’t, I don’t care either way. There were many who did not and said so. I can respect that. But if you don’t get vaccinated, or get caught in a lie about it, then don’t cry because you’re treated differently. And don’t compare it to the holocaust. He was never persecuted or the victim. Aaron Rodgers was never as smart as he believed himself to be. That smugness rubbed many the wrong way. You had to tolerate his antics as long as he was winning 13 games a season. The minute that stopped he had to go. Imagine having a QB that’s all about football. Instead of one that constantly brow beats you into convincing you how smart he is. It’ll be a refreshing change.
Tom M 3 days ago
It’s a free country, get vaccinated or don’t, I don’t care either way.
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You tell them Tommi!!
You don’t care do you?!?!
That must explain why you’re still crying and whining about it and bringing it up in March 2023.
You’re still alive? Damn.
Packers made their big FA move. Signed new long snapper to $1.4 mil contract. Gute’s big FA move. Definitely Super Bowl bound now.
YEA!!!!
Good write up Paul.
Where to begin….
Lets address the 2022 season…winning, and why they didn’t.
First, we got to see a O line getting beat back 8 yards.
Couple that with an empty wide receiver room.
Still no tight end.
Extending training camp throughout the regular season because we needed to develop rookie receivers (in season). Not ideal, even though Tommi would describe it as, draft and develop….lmao. Always entertaining 🤗
Rodgers didn’t help himself much not playing up to Rodgers standards.
But to a wise person, his injuries and the topics above have to be taken into account.
I’ll save my farewells when he is a New York Jet. Will he be?..probably.
But stranger things have happened in the NFL.
I mean….keep in mind, this is Gute and Murphy.
Today, as i write this, Rodgers is a Green Bay Packer.
I would have thought these trade compensation details would have been agreed upon weeks before when the Packers said they were talking to teams about a trade.
Again…Gute/Murphy
Mr. training wheels, and Mr. in over my head and socially awkward.
Once again Kevin, you have no idea what you’re talking about. The Packers aren’t in any hurry to get a trade done. They don’t have to pay Rodgers until September. This contract was structured for someone else to pay him. Which was smart considering how all you idiots bitched about Rodgers contract. It’s actually a non issue. They now hold all the leverage. Rodgers sounded more like a woman scorned yesterday on Pat McAfee. He’s done with the Packers and the Packers are gladly done with him. The Packers could wait and trade him after June 1st. They have their starter in Jordan Love while the Jets lost their starter to Miami and all the big name FA QB’s are gone. Joe Douglas will have to come to terms with whatever Brian Gutekunst wants. Make the Jets come to you, the deadline isn’t until September.
Holy fuck balls Batman! Tom used the proper form of YOU’RE!
If it isn’t the little apostrophe queen himself. Where have you been Ferris? You’ve left Kevin and Cheese all alone to defend Erin’s honor. They need all the help they can get.
Tom M 23 hours ago
Once again Kevin, you have no idea what you’re talking about.
This contract was structured for someone else to pay him.
They now hold all the leverage.
So entertaining….
So they guaranteed Rodgers 101million dollars, thinking someone else will pay 60% of it?….lol
The Packers hold all the leverage? Until….
A) The Jets say no thanks, and walk away.
B) The Packers think they have all the time in the world, until the Jets draft a QB in the first round because the Packers are dicking them around.
Leaving Gute and Murphy caught with each others dick in their hands.
Then San Fran comes to the rescue and gives them a 3rd round pick for Rodgers.
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Tom M 23 hours ago
Once again Kevin, you have no idea what you’re talking about.
This contract was structured for someone else to pay him.
That is just hilarious…from someone telling someone else they don’t know what they’re are talking about.
Structured for someone else to pay it…lmao
You’re an idiot. Better?
Remember me? I know you do.
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I predicted many, many years ago you’re turn on Gute.
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Can you hear it? It’s coming.
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fire gute
Fire Gute!
FIRE GUTE!!
Will I miss Aaron Rodgers? You’re damn right I will.
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Sixty is right around the corner for me and I’ve been watching Packer football since the late 60s. About as long as I can remember. So for being able to watch two back to back hall of famers play as QB here for decades, yes I will indeed miss the play of Aaron Rodgers. I remember all too well what the 70s and 80s were like.
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To Aaron Rodgers I would say thanks. Thanks for those many many enjoyable performances and thanks for being a great Green Bay Packer. I’d wish him well in life and hope for the best for him with the Jets. I don’t have any worries about him and the supposedly vaunted Big Apple media. He’s no babe in the woods rookie. He’s an intelligent man who is probably much smarter than most of those who choose journalism as a vocation. It could be fun to watch.
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I’ve always loved the play of Aaron Rodgers and yes, I was disappointed a few times as well. But in the aggregate he was the best this team had for an awful long time. I never got into and never cared about who he was and what he was apart from football. I never understood why any of us should have given two shits about how he wanted to spend his time and who he wanted to spend it with. All the articles and posts in the past about different girlfriends and other rumors never mattered at all. The preoccupation that some had over matters of his family relationships was really none of our business. Probably the one and only time I ever got critical of him in this regard was when he allowed that piece of garbage Marty Bennett to invade his head. I thought that made him look a bit foolish but it passed about as fast as, Marty’s time in Green Bay.
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Yes, he had opinions on matters that most in football don’t have the brain time or interest for and he shared those. When he had something to say about something he didn’t shy away from it and that caused him to defy a bunch of labels people would try to pin on him. He is basically his own man and he’d let you know about, conformity be damned.
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For all the talk of being a diva, I just didn’t see it comparison to the guy that came before him. Off the field he wasn’t she-banging coeds down the road in Oshkosh while a family was home in Green Bay. There was never any talk about alcohol or drugs making his life difficult. He didn’t require a personal locker room. He just chose to be his own man. I still laugh when people bring up the OTA nonsense of this last year. With one receiver on a hold out, another rehabbing a knee, a rookie coming in and requiring surgery – he was supposed to come play catch and share stuff with a few later round guys who may or may not be assured of playing.
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For those still twirling in the wake of the immunization/vaccination thing you are the idiots. Time is showing more and more each day that young and healthy people like kids and athletes in supreme physical condition did not really need a questionable jab. He is being proven more correct on this and those who still cling to the original controversy are showing themselves to be the easy fodder for the gaslighting crowd. In retrospect I’m glad he took his stand on the issue and had the guts to stay with it.
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I wish him well with the Jets and I’ll be rooting for him. I hope they do reach high places in this shrinking window of time he has available. I wish the man well in life in general. Football is a tough sport and hurts bodies and shortens life spans for many. He gave everything and paid for it several times. Many years of a good life ahead is what I would wish him.
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Now we shall see. Most all of what we will have to deal with is a creation of the front office in Green Bay. Remember, they wanted this. Aaron Rodgers wanted to stay in Green Bay and retire in Green Bay. Yes, I am in the crowd of those who believe this team could have made better personnel moves in several drafts and we would have seen much different outcomes. That’s history and those arguments have been hashed over many many times here. That being said, I wish all the best to Jordan Love.
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We were really blessed and lucky to have one of the all time great quarterbacks of football here in Green Bay for 18 years. Good luck Aaron Rodgers and from the bottom of my heart as a Packer fan – thank you!
To each their own ladies. I prefer Patrick Mahomes. All about football and just wins championships. Over Aaron Rodgers, the pseudo intellectual, drama queen who could never win the big game or take responsibility when he played small in those big games. They’ll be no Kevin or Cheese in New York making excuses for him. And make no mistake, he’s going to face adversity in the AFC. Rodgers never does well when challenged, this could get ugly. To your point about COVID Mitch, I’ll say this. It was never about his health, but rather those he came in contact with. The elderly, those immunosuppressed, those with co morbidities. Sometimes you have to be considerate of others and not make it all about yourself. Kirk Cousins refused to get vaccinated and had to followed strict NFL guidelines because of it. He didn’t complain and followed the rules. Delvin Funchess took the NFL season off because of COVID and it cost him his career. Those are two extremes but those players were willing to make a stand and tell us what they believed in. While Aaron Rodgers ambiguity put others health at risk. Shame on him.
“Kirk Cousins refused to get vaccinated and had to followed strict NFL guidelines because of it.”.
(Stay in school kids)
” Delvin Funchess took the NFL season off because of COVID and it cost him his career.”
DEVIN’S career was over, because he took off a year for covid?
Is that why?
San Francisco 49ers
On November 24, 2021, Funchess was signed to the San Francisco 49ers practice squad.[70] He was released on December 6
Funchess said that as his football career options were dwindling, he was switching his focus and training to basketball so that he can fulfill his childhood dream of playing in the NBA.[74]
Funchess got paid 10 million in 2019 from the Colts and caught 3 passes.
Funchess was under contract with the Packers for 2 seasons and never played.
Then the Packers released him after his chinky/chinkie slurs.
What cost Funchess his career wasn’t a year off, it was because nobody wanted him.
Funchess NFL career is over at 28 years old because the 49ers and the Lions didn’t think he was worth having around, and nobody else was calling
Tom, think for once in your life.
“Over Aaron Rodgers, who could never win the big game.” – Princess
Except…..when he did win the big game.
You’ll have to excuse Tommi, he’s not real big on the truth or accuracy
Tom M 6 hours ago
To each their own ladies. I prefer Patrick Mahomes.
Then go be a Chiefs fan, it’s not like your loyal to one team.
Do some traveling Tommi, hop on some more bandwagons. See the World!!
How many Superbowls did he win? I’ll wait while you count.
How many Superbowls did he win? I’ll wait while you count.
” It was never about his health, but rather those he came in contact with. The elderly, those immunosuppressed, those with co morbidities. Sometimes you have to be considerate of others and not make it all about yourself.”
“While Aaron Rodgers ambiguity put others health at risk. Shame on him.”
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Oh shut up with your romantic shaming. You whine more than a newborn. Rodgers knew what his COVID status was more than anyone he came in contact with because he was tested every morning. Then, the reason he got COVID was because he contracted it from a teammate that had been vaccinated. Gee, how did that happen?
Romantic shaming? Is that even a thing? How about Rodgers just tells the truth and is subject to the NFL strict COVID protocols like everyone else, Cheese. Or do we just trust Aaron Rodgers to do the right thing with his head full of internet conspiracy theories? His body, his choice but the rules are to protect all of us. He doesn’t get to make his own rules because he’s Aaron Rodgers. Stop your childish hero worship. He lied and he got caught in a lie. You can’t justify or romanticize that. No matter how hard you try. Next you’ll be crying he was the victim. Pack your bags and head to New York with Kevin. The three of you are meant to be together.
Tom M 5 hours ago
To each their own ladies. I prefer Patrick Mahomes. That sexy grin he always flashes, like it was meant for just me alone. What i wouldn’t give to run my fingers through that mans sexy curly black hair. I could do that for hours, or the rest of my life.
Saying Delvin Funchess has an NFL career is like saying Aaron Rodgers is the GOAT. It’s like saying Tim Boyle is better than Jordan Love. It’s like saying Kurt Benkert is an NFL QB. It’s like saying Rashan Gary is a bust. Do I continue Kevin? Delvin Funchess did his career no favors by not playing in his prime over COVID. His career, if you want to call it that, suffered tremendously. Would it have turned out this way anyway? Perhaps, but it sure didn’t help to step away from the game at 27 for a year in his athletic prime. As for Patrick Mahomes, at 27, his legacy has already surpassed anything Aaron Rodgers has done at 39, and without all the horseshit. We don’t have to look thru the lens of decades old history to tell us this. Present day tells us this and the gap between Mahomes and Rodgers only widens with time. Now start working on your massage skills, Kevin. You’re needed in New York.
Please, continue…
Continue misspelling Funchess name like a moron because you don’t know any better.
Funchess was 26, when he “stepped away”. But why would you be interested in truth and accuracy.
Or spelling someone’s name right, putting that GED to good use.
Wow, you ignore this site for a for years …..
Didn’t realize how much I missed PF4L still dispelling fake-isms in the way only he can…..
Personally, I believe it’s been a great run after the dark days of the 80’s that we must attribute to GB having had #4 and #12. Sadly, both will have departed in anger which will overshadow their fantastic athletic careers with the team in the memories of many fans. I wonder how I would feel in #12’s shoes, especially if I possessed his high level ego.
Bottom line – it’s been a great run. Time to kick the tires on Jordan Love and hope they can at least “own” the Bears for a few more years…..
On Wednesday’s installment of ESPN’s “Get Up,” Schefter said the Packers want two first-round picks for Rodgers — similar to what the Rams gave up to acquire Matthew Stafford from the Lions in January 2021.
Hours later, NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero reported that Green Bay is not seeking multiple first-round picks “like other QBs (Russell Wilson, Matthew Stafford) have commanded in recent years.”
For maybe a 1 year player?
If i’m the Jets, i’m telling the Packers to kick rocks.
nypost.com/2023/03/16/jets-packers-far-apart-on-aaron-rodgers-trade/
Why trade parameters weren’t discussed, before the Jets flew out to see Rodgers is beyond me.
Joe Douglass has pulled of some decent trades for the Jets. He should know better.
Maybe the Jets are as stupid as the Browns…idk.
What i want to know also, is how much of the 59 million are the Packers asking the Jets to pay.
I’d give the Packers a 2nd round, and pay half his guarantee, or i walk and wait for the Packers to blink, because i think the Packers know Rodgers will not go anywhere else.
Again, the 2nd round pick (or a first if they’re willing) and half (30 million) should have been discussed before the Rodgers trip. The Jets fumbled on this also.
It’s amazing how inept some of these people are in negotiation skills.
Mark Murphy vs Woody Johnson….
What could go wrong right? 🤔
That…or they can keep him or just release him and move on with Love. Tell me how that works out.
This situation was a Packers problem, not a Jets problem.
It is not just here, it is on many other sites. The reason(s) people are trying to justify a hatred for a QB who delivered a Super Bowl and so many other things while playing for 15 years. The petty, childish, and stupid ass things I’m reading has me just puzzled and so many not even related to the records and the on field performances.
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Look, I’m not happy at the man Brett Favre has become in regards to his scandal in Mississippi, but I’m damn glad I got to watch Brett Favre as the QB of the Packers. I can appreciate what Green Bay had with Aaron Rodgers and still completely understand and be fine with the trade. I get it, it’s a business, it’s the money/contract/cap, and yes – it is also the age factor. So be it. It is the NFL and every player becomes surplus at some point in time. But to read some of this nonsense that some folks post up I just shake my head. I can think of another franchise where they absolutely worship a guy who was involved in a murder for crissakes! That goes way beyond someone’s cocky attitude or supposed smarminess rubbing you the wrong way folks.
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Hey Packer fans, you were lucky. You were damn lucky and I say it even probably got started with Don Majkowski. If and when this trade deal is done it is when the rubber will really meet the road. Mark Murphy might get off/out easy since he is such a short timer and retirement is right around the corner for him. This team moving onto to the Jordan Love era is moving into somewhat of a rebuild or re-calibration. You guys trust Murphy to shepherd the football side of this? Gute maybe, just maybe, could have kinda sorta – sorta kinda finally got a draft mostly right after how many? Think he can do it again? As a fan, I hope so, but based on what I seen the first few years I’ll still be a bit skeptical. He better hit on the draft since he has little money to play with for free agency because of the cap situation he and the front office put this team into. Now we shall really see if Matt LaFleur is indeed some new age coaching genius since he will have his QB – calling his plays – without question or audible or dirty look or eye roll. Let’s just see how this all works out.
If I’m Gutekunst, I hold out for a one and a two. Not necessarily in the same draft. The Jets, like Kevin, are delusional. They think Rodgers will take them to the SB. While Kevin lives in a world where Delvin Funchess catches TD passes from Kurt Benkert and Rodgers reins supreme as the GOAT. Gutekunst has to do what’s best for the Green Bay Packers NOT Aaron Rodgers. Time is on the Packers side. The first deadline is April 27th, the draft. If a deal isn’t done by then, then there’s no need for one until June 2nd when Rodgers cap hit it cut in half. In the meantime the natives are getting restless in New York demanding a resolution. Rodgers, who now acts like a woman scorned, will not return to the Packers with his buddies gone and Jordan Love the starter. That’s not even a threat. I expect a deal before the draft. After making the Packers wait in the off season these past couple of years, it’s Rodgers turn to get a taste of his own medicine.
Tom M 4 hours ago
If I’m Gutekunst, i’d have a life.
Making friends….down the hall 😎
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March 18, 2023 at 01:28 pm
10 thumbs down!!
YEA BABY!! 😊
Living in reality isn’t it all its cracked up to be …i guess.
Maybe i need to chug some lemon lime kool aid with gold sprinkles 😉
LOL! Your buds down the hall are more delusional than certain posters here. Rodgers sucks so bad we can’t wait to get rid of him but my god the Packers have to get at least two first rounders in 2023, 2024 and maybe 2025. The Jets will give anything for one year of AR. My god people, stop talking so stupid.
“But a lingering question is, will we miss Aaron Rodgers?”
I was wondering exactly how to put that question in perspective, because frankly, if you think about the question, it just seems silly to me.
What if we asked the Lions if they miss their HOF QB’s. Or perhaps ask the Bears that same question.
If an older vikings fan were asked that question they might bring up Fran Tarkenton i’d imagine.
So i guess my point is, are us Packer fans that spoiled, that we wonder if we’ll miss a GBP HOF QB, a QB whose peers have spoken about him as one of the best.
Some teams never even had a HOF QB, we had 3 of them, 2 the last 30 years.
If you’re a Packer fan, do you realize how rare that is and how lucky we are to claim that?
So now the question is….will we miss him.
HELL NO!!….we’ll just pluck another one off the tree….lol
I’m going to guess that Mr. Edwards is somewhere under 45 years old, and may not know what this team even looks like w/o a HOF QB.
No matter how you feel about Favre, or Rodgers, i think that question is ridiculous on it’s face.
But that’s just me and my .02
What say you Rob Born?
“Some teams never even had a HOF QB, we had 3 of them, 2 the last 30 years.”
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Not to play devils advocate, but the Packers have actually had 4 HOF QB’s including Arnie Herber who played in Green Bay from 1930-1940.
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Arnie was a 4x NFL Champion who had a list of achievements such as-
First-team All-Pro (1932)
2× Second-team All-Pro (1935, 1936)
NFL All-Star (1939)
3× NFL passing yards leader (1932, 1934, 1936)
3× NFL passing touchdowns leader (1932, 1934, 1936)
NFL passer rating leader (1936)
NFL completion percentage leader (1936)
NFL 1930s All-Decade Team
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That’s a pretty stellar resume. I remember seeing a recent article that ranked teams based off of how many years of HOF QB play they had. The Packers were first just with the years from Starr, Favre, and Rodgers. I knew about Herber so I felt the article was lacking. I’m sure they’ll use some BS about how it doesn’t count because it wasn’t “modern era football” or that it was easy to win back then. If it was so easy why wasn’t everyone doing it?
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Just because QB’s weren’t putting up Drew Brees style stats in the 1930’s doesn’t mean it wasn’t impressive. Herber and Don Hutson revolutionized the passing game. I think that’s worth mentioning.
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Regardless, Packer fans have definitely been spoiled with HOF QB play and that’s even the case when they only count three QB’s. Counting the years from all 4 QB’s it’s around 50 years of HOF QB play. The Packers just had their 100th season not long ago. Almost half the existence of the organization has been HOF QB play. Spoiled is an understatement.
Well, look who’s doing the “romanticizing” now, Cheese. So what you’re saying is we’ve had great players in the past and we will have them in the future? Is your theme don’t worry, be happy? Then you’re ready for the next chapter in the Packers long line of success with Jordan Love? Or are we headed into the pits of hell fire and damnation at the hands of the evil Brian Gutekunst? You sound conflicted Cheese. You and Kevin seem so lost without your hero. What I want to know is what you guys are going to do if Jordan Love actually turns out to be good. After all the bitching and bashing you’ll both be eating crow. Can’t wait to see that dumpster fire.
Did you even read my post? Stating facts is not romanticizing, dumb ass. Arnie Herber is a HOF quarterback who has 4 NFL championships and is a member of the 1930’s All-Decade team. FACT. The Packers can say that they have had a HOF quarterback under center for almost 50% of their existance. FACT. I never said “don’t worry, be happy” or that because Green Bay has had HOF QB’s in the past that another HOF QB was guaranteed in the future. How the flying fuck did you come to that conclusion from my post? It was meant to show that the Packers have been VERY fortunate when it comes to quarteback play.
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Romanticizing is when you sensationalize a “heroic game winning drive” by Patrick Mahomes that consisted of zero completed passes, and 11 rushing yards that were split between the QB and RB. Forget about the kick returner and the field goal kicker. Mahomes worked his unparalelled magic with that 5 yard scramble. Absolutely dreamy.
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Romanticizing is when you brag about Tom Brady LOSING a game because he “rallied the troops” while having to play behind a second string left tackle and having to throw the ball to (gasp) a second string WR. Dreamboat city!
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“Then you’re ready for the next chapter in the Packers long line of success with Jordan Love? Or are we headed into the pits of hell fire and damnation at the hands of the evil Brian Gutekunst? ”
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My post had nothing to do with Jordan Love or Gutekunst. Nice try though. What I do know is that if Love doesn’t turn out to be a good QB you’re going to disappear and not respond to anyone like you always do when you get called out. And if he does turn out to be a decent QB you’re going to run your mouth up and down about how you knew it all along. So either way, all of us here at TotalPackers lose because 1.) the Packers either end up with a shitty QB, or 2.) we all have to listen to you talk out of your ass. That’s if you haven’t run everyone off the site by then.
Damn!!
It’s not that often that an adult gets exposed as having the mentality of an 8 year old, and worse yet…..
Can’t defend himself.
Because listening to you and Kevin talk out your ass is so much better. Taking us on a trip down memory lane sure sounds romanticizing to me, Cheese. Maybe you and Kevin can hook up for a little “romantic shaming.” In the privacy of your mom’s double wide of course. What happens in your mobile home stays in your mobile home! I just come here for the belly laughs, and you two never disappoint!
So angry Tom Moshier…..
Kids, lesson of the day.
DANGER: You make the viking fan angry, at your own peril.
SKOL!!
Now, for more important things to discuss than Tommi’s chronic anger issues.
What’s going on with this trade? This over the hill 39 year old player for a draft pick…how hard can that be?
Surprising….with all the NFL trading experience of team Murphy/Gutee
How about….get it done already, how hard can it be?
Jets, give the Packers your 43rd overall pick. Split Rodgers fully guaranteed money…done.
That took me less than 30 seconds
I don’t know why Murphy/Gutee are stalling.
Are they….
A) Trying to figure out how to do an NFL trade.
B) Trying to get advice from Giselle’s psychic.
C) Still reading..Dummies Guide to NFL Trades.
D) Did they read an article from some gutterball who said the Packers held the leverage.
Get this done so i don’t have to come back in here and say…..
http://www.google.com/search?q=well+we%27re+waiting&gs_ivs=1#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:7c979c57,vid:Z0YIJQ1jgEI
Man, if Tom had the capacity for reading comprehension that would be scathing. You and P4FL should really follow my example on this one. He’s to damn dumb for logic. Don’t waste your time engaging because he inserts his own thoughts as facts. If you don’t agree with one thing, you believe everything he’s against, even things you’ve never commented about.
What say you Tommi…
Is this true, are you too damn dumb to be logical?
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Lol, Tom has nothing of value to respond with so his rebuttal is literally the equivalent of “I know you are but what am I?”
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“No, YOU’RE the one talking out of YOUR ass! No, YOU’RE the one romanticizing!”
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Then he has to follow up with some lame ass sexual insult like he’s still in second grade. How riveting.
Apparently my last post didn’t go through?
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Lol, Tom has nothing of value to respond with nor can he deny anything I said, so his rebuttal is literally the equivalent of “I know you are but what am I?”
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“No, YOU’RE the one talking out of YOUR ass! No, YOU’RE the one who is romanticizing!”
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Then he has to follow up with some sort of lame ass sexual insult as if he was still in the second grade. Riveting stuff here folks.
This fucking site….
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Sorry for the double post.
Amen Cheese!
Thirty two year old WR Adam Thielen signed with Carolina over the weekend. The former Minnesota Viking was released. He was the Vikings version of the Packers Jordy Nelson who was also released at 32. I find this significant. It was the Vikings who traded their high second round pick that allowed Gutekunst to select Christian Watson. Now imagine if the Vikings had kept that pick and took Watson. Christian Watson and Justin Jefferson would have given the Vikings the best WR duo in all of football. Knowing Thielen was near the end of the line shows lack of self awareness from the Viking GM. I don’t know who or what the Viking GM used those two second round picks on he got from the Packers. But if it was used for defense it didn’t help.
This…straight from Corn Cob University.
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Tom M 1 week ago
It’s unlikely that trade compensation is holding things up.
Let me explain how this works Kevin, and to the rest of you ladies who are clueless regarding this trade. There are two main factors why Aaron Rodgers played like shit last year. Number one, he’s old, his skill set has greatly deteriorated with age. He is no longer the player he once was. Number two, he couldn’t be bothered to participate in any offseason programs to work with his new receivers. It showed on the field to the detriment of the team. Evidently a 150 million dollar contract extension wasn’t sufficient motivation for Aaron Rodgers. This season, Rodgers with Jets will look a lot like last season with the Packers for the same two reasons. First, he’s still old and washed up. And secondly, Brian Gutekunst is under no obligation to get a motivated, revengeful Aaron Rodgers to New York to begin working with his new team. Gutekunst doesn’t work for the Jets, he isn’t Rodgers agent. In short, the longer this goes on, the more it greatly hampers the Jets and Aaron Rodgers. Unless he gets the draft picks he wants, Gutekunst doesn’t make this trade doesn’t go thru until after June 2nd for cap considerations. There’s more at play here than a simple trade. But of course, you simpletons can’t see it.
This place has turned into a Packers blog equivalent of intemperate four-year old’s running a bad day care center. No one’s minding the kids as they turn the place into an interpretation of Lord Of The Flies.
As accurate as that may be. It’s about 2 years too late 🙃
Woody Johnson and Jets fans truly believe they’re just a QB away from being a SB team and that Aaron Rodgers is their man. If that’s the case, then Rodgers is worth the asking price. What I find interesting is not you, Savage 57, or Kevin, or Cheese, or Ferris, or anyone else that posts here believes Aaron Rodgers will get the Jets to a SB. Why? Because like me, you’ve seen Rodgers play in the playoffs over the last decade. Rodgers himself doesn’t believe he’s a SB QB but rather talks in terms of winning another MVP. What Rodgers provides is making the Jets relevant. They’ll be talked about endlessly on podcasts and sports shows. They’ll get a bunch of prime time games. And under the best case scenario they’re a one and done wild card team. So how much is that worth? Evidently it’s yet to be determined. But what’s just as likely is Rodgers crashes and burns in New York and they run him out of town like Favre. Because the Jets fan base will be in no mood for the endless excuses on why he couldn’t win the big game that so many of you here so creatively express.
You sure know a lot…mad props.
Have you been talking to Giselle’s psychic again?
The Jets and their fan base haven’t seen a SuperBowl game since 1969.
The Jets and their fan base haven’t seen a playoff game since Jan. 2011.
Tommi tells us……
“But what’s just as likely is Rodgers crashes and burns in New York and they run him out of town like Favre. Because the Jets fan base will be in no mood for the endless excuses on why he couldn’t win the big game” – Gutterball Tommi
(Apparently… Tommi assumes a SB appearance with Rodgers)
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Lol…YEP….The Jets, one of the NFL’s great winning franchises.
If Rodgers doesn’t win a Super Bowl for the Jets. According to Tommi, the fan base will run Rodgers out of town!!
Just like Favre!!
Because……the Jets fanbase will be in NO MOOD why Rodgers couldn’t win the Big game!!
LOL….They’ll be in NO MOOD people!!….because the Jets fan base are accustomed to winning Tommi?
The Jets fan base will NOT put up with Rodgers shenanigans!! 😠
That was well stated Savage57. It brought a smile to my face. Thanks!
Tom M 3 hours ago
Let me explain how this works Kevin, and to the rest of you ladies who are clueless regarding this trade.
There are two main factors why Aaron Rodgers played like shit last year.
Number one, he’s old, his skill set has greatly deteriorated with age. He is no longer the player he once was 12 months ago when he won back to back MVP’s.
For those of you Ladies who are confused, MVP stands for Most valuable Player…in the entire league.
Old players can play to the highest level in the NFL at 37 and 38 years old, but once you turn 39 like Rodgers, THEN…you’re too old. Take notes people
So yea…Rodgers fault.
Number two, he couldn’t be bothered to participate in any offseason programs to work with his new receivers.
The reason that was important is because the receiver room was emptied out (Rodgers fault).
For you Ladies, that means depleted of talent to the point where the Packers had to rely on a rookie draft class for offensive production.
That’s HOW the Championship teams do it. Holding training camp during the season for the newbies.
I accurately call that….draft and develop.
Lets be honest, if Rodgers worked in the off season with the new receivers (on his time), then of course, both receivers would have been fully up to speed by week 1. Gaining 1,300 yards each, with 28 TD’s between them with no drops, easily.
Again, Rodgers fault.
I’m sure a couple of you Ladies will bring up the fact that the O line was a sieve, that Rodgers played with a broken thumb and sore ribs, that Doubs almost led the league in drops.
That the defense, full of #1 picks and high priced free agent talent, can’t get it done.
Some of you Ladies might even bring up Brian Gutekunst and Mark Murphy.
Well i have news for you.
None of that matters!!
Those things have nothing to do with wins and loses.
The only person responsible for wins and losses is one Erin Charles Rodgers.
What the rest of the team, or the GM does has no bearing on success or failure, wins or losses
I’ve been telling you Ladies this for years.
It’s all Rodgers fault.
There you have it, praise God if you must, but…
You have been educated by Tom M.
You’re welcome.
Thanks Tom….
That was so informative, i took notes.
How old were you when you realized you were so gifted intellectually?
Just curious….you brought up the trade in your first sentence.
What about it?
Was their a point to be made?
Kevin, you can talk about those MVP years all you want, but how did Rodgers look last year? How did he play against the Lions? He wins either game and your boy is in the playoffs. He’s no longer the player he once was. Come to terms with it. Lashing out at me or throwing a tantrum because the trade is taking longer than you would like doesn’t change the fact the Rodgers best days are behind him.
Just curious….you brought up the trade in your first sentence.
What about it?
Was their a point to be made?
Tom M 20 hours ago
Woody Johnson and Jets fans truly believe they’re just a QB away from being a SB team and that Aaron Rodgers is their man. If that’s the case, then Rodgers is worth the asking price.
What’s Rodgers worth in this league in your opinion Princess.
Your views on Rodgers are well known.
You’re the expert on all that is Aaron Rodgers.
What’s he worth to you?
A snickers bar?
A box of ice cream sandwiches?
A frozen Home Run pizza?
A T-shirt from the clearance rack at Walmart?
BTW….to claim Rodgers is worth the asking price, wouldn’t you first need to know….the asking price?
Are you sitting in on negotiations?
Did you read a magic 8 ball?
When you woke up this morning, did your sister roll over and tell you?
Maybe Gute/Murphy told you, or you got it from your psychic.
Or is this just another day we’ve grown accustomed to in Tom Moshiers make believe world.
Your problem Kevin is you never offer anything interesting to the conversation. You just react to what I say. Or you quote your stupid stats. In the NFL, you’re only as good as your last game. Aaron Rodgers played like shit his last game against a very average at best Detroit Lions team. Much like he did all season. Now, how did Patrick Mahomes play his last game? A come from behind SB win against the best team in the NFC. All with a high ankle sprain and inferior WR’s. When you look at the New York Jets, Kevin, what do you see? I see a team very much like the Packers. A talented team with many young ascending players. If Rodgers couldn’t get the Packers to a SB. Then what makes you or anyone else think he’ll be the Jets savior? I say he won’t. You don’t have to be a psychic to apply critical thinking. A concept you seem to fail to understand. As far as Rodgers draft value, the Jets have backed themselves into a corner. It’s Rodgers or bust. You are nothing in the NFL without a QB. And right now the Jets don’t have one and there’s none to be had in FA. It’s simple supply and demand. Joe Douglas and Robert Saleh are nearing the end of the line. They have to make the playoffs next year or one or both lose their jobs. The pressure is on them. Let them sweat in order to sweeten the trade pot. There’s no immediate deadline for the Packers and Gutekunst knows it.
The Elijah Moore trade now gives the Jets the 11th and 12th pick in the second round. Those two picks packaged together gives a trade value of a lower 1st round pick. This would be acceptable trade value for Rodgers with a conditional future pick in next years draft depending on how Rodgers plays and if he plays for another year after the coming season. For the Packers, that would give them 4 picks in the top 45. They could address pass rusher, TE, safety, and WR all by the middle of round two. Then go for depth on rounds 3-7. For the Jets, they keep the 13 pick to draft a LT with the OL being the weakest link on the team. It would be a win/win for all involved. It’s sounds like the Jets have been shopping Moore since his altercation with Mike LaFleur. I’d bet the Jets offered Moore and their second round pick for Rodgers and Mike told his brother Matt, “you don’t want this guy, he’ll be trouble.” But that’s just a guess. I’m sure Gutekunst prefers picks over players. This is all going to work out. Both sides are motivated. It’s been in the Packers best interest to wait. Everyone gets excited over nothing.
If you’ve been paying attention, and evidently no one who posts here has the mental capacity to do so, the Packers want a first round pick and change for Aaron Rodgers. While the Jets think he’s only worth a second round pick and change. Thus, the impasse. Kevin tells us you must be a psychic to come to such far fetched conclusions. Then comes the issue of leverage and who has it. Both teams do to an extent. But the Packers don’t have pay to Rodgers until September and it’s more advantageous cap wise to make the trade after June 2nd. Time is currently on the Packers side. Meanwhile the Jets are balls deep into Aaron Rodgers. Just the way he likes it. They signed his buddy Allen Lazard, they’re in negotiations with OBJ like Rodgers wanted, and they traded Elijah Moore for an additional second round pick presumably to throw in as trade bate. The Jets need to get this done now and get Rodgers working with his new set of WR’s asap. Why? Because not working with his WR’s in the offseason last year along with his poor play greatly contributed to an 8-9 season. Again, you don’t have to be Nostradamus to know the Jets are expecting MVP Rodgers, not old man Rodgers of last year. The odds are no better than 50/50 they get the Aaron Rodgers they want. Nevertheless, they’ll try and give him everything he wants to hopefully succeed. This whole trade by the Jets reeks of desperation. Both the Jets HC and GM need to make the playoffs to save their jobs. While LaFleur and Gutekunst are at least a year away from being on the hot seat. Again time favors the Packers. The problem with the Jets now pursuing Lamar Jackson as a negotiating ploy, is they risk offending Aaron Rodgers after they’ve spent all this time kissing his ass and telling him how special he is. And we all know how sensitive he can be. You don’t want to upset the lady. As far as when do you want your draft compensation, this draft or next. You could make the argument either way. But the main advantage to having additional picks next year is they’ll be at least two sure fire, blue chip QB prospects in next years draft. Unlike the flawed group of QB prospects this year. Should Jordan Love fail, you would have additional picks to potentially move up to take one. But my guess would be Gutekunst prefers picks this year in order to help his QB Jordan Love be successful.
Adam Schefter is reporting the Packers are holding firm on a first round pick for Rodgers. While the Jets continue to hold firm on a second round pick. The available veteran FA QB’s are Teddy Bridgewater, Carson Wentz, and Matt Ryan. Good luck selling your fan base on one of those losers after you’ve teased your fans with Aaron Rodgers for three months. And you can forget the playoffs. Is Joe Douglas really going to risk losing his job for a draft pick? If I’m Gutekunst, and a second round pick is all I can get for Rodgers, then I offer him up to the Tennessee Titans, or better yet, Bill Belichick and the Patriots for a second round pick. Bill Belichick would take Rodgers just to keep him away from New York. And before you ladies start crying Aaron Rodgers has all the power! He doesn’t. He either gets traded now or retires. He isn’t coming back to be Jordan Love’s backup. That decision was made months ago. Yeah, if I’m the Packer GM, I tell Joe Douglas give me what I want or I’ll send Rodgers to New England and I’ll even pay his contract just so you don’t get him. Old Joe will be unemployed before he knows it. Gutekunst is playing hardball here. Good for him.
Tom M 1 day ago
If you’ve been paying attention, it would seem i’m talking to myself in here, again.
Ever since i lost my pet rock, i’ve been going crazy with loneliness.
It’s been a bad year so far for me, first, my turtle died, (Tommy Turtle).
I called him Sir Tom, he had such a great personality, i think he got it from me.
So bear with me, maybe contribute to my Gofundme page for funeral expenses.
My Goal is $16,000.00
I can’t believe the price of turtle caskets these days, but i guess, everything is going up.
What are the odds #12 pulls a Carr and retires to sign as FA with the Jets or Raiders ??
PF4L 6 days ago
This…straight from Corn Cob University.
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Tom M 1 week ago
It’s unlikely that trade compensation is holding things up.
In order for Joe Douglas and Woody Johnson to fly out to Malibu and publicly worship at the feet of Aaron Rodgers. The Jets would have had to been given permission from the Packers otherwise it’s called tampering. Ask the Dolphins owner what happened to him when he tampered with Tom Brady who was under contract with the Bucs last year. His team was fined and lost a draft pick. I contend that when Douglas contacted Gutekunst some loose framework for a trade was put in place otherwise you’re wasting the time of everyone involved. Emboldened by the fact the Rodgers wants to be a Jet, it could be Douglas thinks he’s got more leverage and wants to back pedal on trade specifics. Douglas doesn’t have leverage regardless of what the New York media thinks. Talking with the media at the owners meeting, Brian Gutekunst is confident this deal will get done. Likewise, Joe Douglas refused to use Lamar Jackson as leverage in trade negotiations stating it would be “disingenuous.” There’s simply no hard deadline before the draft. Gutekunst called negotiations cordial between the two men. The Jets cannot sell their fans on Teddy Bridgewater after getting this close to landing Aaron Rodgers. While the Packers wanted Rodgers gone either by retirement or trade. They’ve already got what the wanted out of the deal. Rodgers isn’t coming back. Draft picks are just a bonus. Don’t you worry Kevin, you’ll be wearing that Jets jersey soon enough….
PF4L 6 days ago
This…straight from Corn Cob University.
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Tom M 1 week ago
It’s unlikely that trade compensation is holding things up.
Wile E. Coyote…Genius.
From Corn Cob University Trailer Park….
Tom M 4 days ago
If you’ve been paying attention, and evidently no one who posts here has the mental capacity to do so, the Packers want a first round pick and change for Aaron Rodgers.
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New York Post: Packers’ Brian Gutekunst says first-rounder not ‘necessary’ for Aaron Rodgers trade
By Joseph Staszewski
As usual, you give Tom Dingleberry enough rope, and the chance of him hanging himself soar to 99.9%.
The chance of of him sounding like the damn fool he is…100%
In his final act of being a little bitch. Aaron Rodgers ghosted Brian Gutekunst at the end of the season for 8 weeks, goes into his “darkness retreat” 90 percent sure he’s going to retire, then gets all butt hurt and offended when he finds that Gutekunst was looking into trading him. What a dick! That’s your hero ladies and gentlemen. But then, I’m sure I’m just “romantic shaming” Rodgers again…
Atta girl…let it all out. 👶🏻
While I believe Rodgers was the greatest pure quarterback in Packers history, there’s just not enough drive coming from him anymore. The injury limited his ability last year, but honestly, when it comes to the Packers, he just not that into us. Favre, Brady, Montana, Manning, Unitas, Warner, its common for great QBs and their teams to go their separate ways. Again, too bad this didn’t happen last year when the Packers could have gotten a couple first round picks for him. I think now that it appears neither the Packers nor any other NFL thinks he’s worth more than about a second round pick, I he’s going to just retire and this will be a $40 million cap hit for the Packers which means the Packers may have trouble even signing rookies.