If Green Bay fans weren’t biting their nails during this one, they were outside wearing mittens. The Packers gave their fans every reason to scream disparagements during the first three quarters of Sunday’s game at Soldier Field, but, in the end, this game will be remembered by Packer fans as one of the great 4th quarter comebacks in Packer-Bear history. Aaron Rodgers on the sideline firing up his offensive line set a tone for the team that rallied Green Bay to a win that for three quarters they did not deserve. This 4th quarter comeback and Chicago meltdown likely crushed Bears fans who were seeing blood after last week’s Packer loss to the Eagles. But Bear fans left Soldier Field broken with Packer fan chants of, “Go Pack Go!” in their ears and a smug Aaron Rodgers as the Ghost of Christmas Past and Present in their holiday nightmares.
The Packers were down two scores three different times in the game. In the first quarter, they were down 10-0. In the second they were down 16-3. As the third quarter was winding down, the Packers were down 19-10. The comeback required special plays from the offense, defense and special teams. The team shrugged off some early poor play to make turnovers, stops and touchdowns with the game on the line. The offense, defense and special teams played with urgency in the second half. It led to 18 unanswered fourth quarter points. Christian Watson was the hero with two touchdowns on three catches and one incredible run. A.J. Dillion had to take more snaps with Aaron Jones nursing a shin injury and Quadzilla impressed. Eighteen runs for 93 yards and three catches for 26 more showed the tools he posses when given an opportunity. The Bears were so focused on trying to stop Dillon that Rodgers fake to him pulled the defense away, allowing Watson to play the hero.
If you recorded the game, Packer fans might be tempted to skip to the 4th quarter but you would miss the agony that made this victory so sweet. The Packer defense looked shaky from the opening snap. After being throttled by the Eagles running quarterback, the defense looked like it had learned nothing from the Philly beat down. The Bears marched 53 yards in 11 plays settling for a field goal that felt like a relief to Packer fans. The Bears converted two third and one plays for first downs, also giving up runs of 8 and 3 yards to RB Montgomery and 9 and 6 yards to QB Fields. After the Bears field goal, the Packers punted after a curious run call on third and 12 failed to convert. The Bears then took advantage of Quay Walker, who got lost in diagnosing the Bears motion and left Justin Fields a running lane for a 55 yard touchdown run. Keisean Nixon missed a tackle attempt on the play, but Walker’s failed reaction was the key to the long gain.
The Green Bay offense then showed some life on a 13 play drive that stalled on the Bear six yard line. Crosby’s kick put three on the board for the Packers. Next, a possible turning point for the Packers, a forced fumble recovery by Rudy Ford, was wasted by the offense. They gave the ball back on downs after five plays. The Bears then broke the game open when Jaire Alexander was beaten deep by Equanimeous St. Brown, followed up by a run to daylight by Montgomery. That Bear’s score made it 16-3. The 23rd ranked NFL offense was rolling the Packer defense and the Green Bay offense looked suspect. Give the defense credit for never letting the score get to more than 13 while the offense struggled. The defense made enough plays to hold the Bears to 3 points in the second half after giving up big plays in both the run and the pass. Their three takeaways turned the game and helped Bears fans to the worst taste their mouths could swallow: another Rodgers led win over the home team.
Rodgers and the offense rallied with their backs against the wall on a 13 play drive as the half wound down. A.J. Dillon and Aaron Jones combined on seven touches (6 run/1pass) for 44 of the seventy five yard drive. The highlight was Christian Watson’s 14 yard touchdown grab on 4th down. That closed the score to 16-10 Bears at halftime. LaFleur deserves credit for going for the touchdown on fourth and four. Many coaches would have taken three points and hoped for better results in the second half. The pass to Watson was perfect from Rodgers and Watson made a nice adjustment to get a step on his defender, then covered up, taking a hit while securing the catch.
Any Packer momentum was extinguished by the offense going three and out to start the third quarter and Innis Gaines’ 15-yard penalty on the subsequent punt when the Bear returner had signaled a fair catch. Chicago started their drive on the 42 yard line. But Alexander came up big on 3rd down, stuffing the Bears run, forcing a punt.
Again, the offense sputtered. A penalty. A dropped pass. A pass thrown short of Josiah Deguara. When Chicago got the ball back, they went back to the run and found success and a first down. When the Packers stopped the run, Fields found K’Neal Harry for a first down. Time and again the Packers had the Bears in third and long or second and more than 10, only to give up a big play. The defense finally rallied after Chicago was flagged for a hold and was able to settle for a field goal giving the Bears the 19-10 edge.
As the 4th quarter started, the Packers offense got going thanks to two huge pass interference penalties on Chicago. The drive was capped off by a 21 yard touchdown run by A.J Dillon. The score was 19-17 and the Bears defense was looking tired. That’s when Jaire Alexander picked a bad time to gamble, getting burned on a bomb from Fields to K’Neal Harry. This type of letdown has happened so many times in the Packer losses in 2022 that many fans were anticipating the worst. But the Packers defense made a stand, culminating with a block of the Chicago field goal.
The offense then made a valiant attempt to score a touchdown before settling for a field goal and a one point 20-19 lead. Fair to bet that Packer fans who felt confident with that one point lead and 4:49 to play were few and far between. Chicago rushed the ball and gained two good chunks of eight and five yards. Then Justin Fields tried to pick on Alexander for a third time. His first two attempts struck gold for the Bears; two receptions for 105 yards that led to one touchdown. But Field’s 4th quarter pass turned into the charm for the Packers as Alexander made the interception. Christian Watson then blew the game open with a 46 yard end around touchdown dash. The 19-10 Bears lead had swung to 28-19 Packers in just over ten minutes.
The Bears last second attempt to avert this disaster of a melt down would end in another interception of Fields by Nixon at the Green Bay 25 to seal the game. This win gives the Packers the most wins of any franchise in NFL history. Beating the Bears is always reason to celebrate, but taking that historic title is a reason to be thankful you cheer for the Green and Gold. Enjoy the bye week everyone.
Tom M 2 weeks ago
The Bears finally have a young, talented, franchise QB with a team on the rise. They hate Aaron Rodgers and they smell blood.
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They smell blood?
Well, maybe it’s just some Chicago style pan pizza with extra sauce.
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Congrats to Justin Fields, the bears franchise rushing leader today, and this season.
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The bears, 3-10, are not only on the rise, they are still mathematically in the running for the first pick of the 2023 draft.
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Excitement abounds.
Rodgers was out played by Fields until the very end of the game. Up until Fields threw those two picks, his QB rating was about 110 to Rodgers 87. And, of course, QB rating does not include the long run for TD. The defense and Christian Watson saved Rodgers who was once again throwing up hero balls all game and ended up with at 58% completion percentage vs Fields 80% completion percentage. I am happy that Rodgers was able to contain his disdain for all things Packers for one game, long enough so that the Bears fans wouldn’t taunt him. I’m sure next game we’ll see Rodgers go back to making it all about Aaron Rodgers.
Good points
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Justin Fields is my hero also.
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Don’t tell anyone, but i root against Rodgers every week.
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I often write post in here ripping Rodgers up every week, so when he plays average or worse, i can come in here and write about Rodgers in disgust, and gloat about the other teams QB.
(Can you relate Deepsky?)
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I’m with you, i hate when bear fans taunt Rodgers.
When that happens, i have trouble sleeping that night.
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I’m with you. I’m hoping Rodgers retires or gets hit by a bus or something terrible.
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Maybe the Packers could trade Rodgers and two 1st round picks for Justin Fields. An up n coming franchise QB.
That boy can run!!
Oh wow, good one Mike. Let me know when you post anything of anything actually valuable footballwise punk ass bitch. Go play in an active volcano poindexter
What strikes me the most was Roders looking relaxed and confident that he would will win this game all from the beginning. This win was as nice as the one against the fat MFO.
I’m thinking about posting the top 500 dumbest things Tommi ever wrote….
So far i have these nuggets.
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Tom M
“Payback is a bitch and Big Mike is gonna give it to little Erin in spades next week. Bend over Erin and don’t bother with the lube. Big Mike’s your daddy now…..”
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Tom M
“And speaking of Jordan Love, I thought he’d be starting in December. It now looks like he could start as soon as the game after Dallas. Big Mike raw doggin’ little Erin looks to be the final insult before Jordan Love gets his shot. It’s coming girls and you can’t stop it.”
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Tom M
“How to be a Submissive Bitch and the Virtues of the West Coast Offense.” By Big Dom Daddy, Mike McCarthy! It’s ok if you don’t have time to pick up a copy. They’ll be a public display on Sunday at Lambeau. You won’t want to miss it!”
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Tom M 1 week ago
“Just a reminder, keep the sharp objects away from MMSUCKS next week when Big Mike McCarthy makes Erin his bitch. It’s coming and you can’t stop it…”
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NO SIR…YOU CAN’T STOP IT!!….lol
Football wisdom, according to Tom M
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What’s next….Justin Fields is a franchise QB and the bears are on the rise?
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Keep nailin it Princess!!!! 😲
You just can’t make this shit up . . . Tom M is without question, a cognitively challenged troll. Most definitely a candidate for the poster boy of; ” If you were stupid, would you know it?”
I here you, plaster a picture of Tom M on ass-end of Donkey “ASSHOLE of ALLTIME.
Surprised Tom M & Kato have time to post here, with all the Naked Twister they play together in moms basement.
Mike Klocek, the articulate intellectual out of the group. So nice to hear from you. MMSUCKS, you keep being you. How’s Big Mike doing in Dallas? Oh that’s right, he’s winning! Little Erin on the other hand isn’t. But it’s not his fault. It’s never his fault when we lose. And he’s always the reason why we win. Except when we run the ball and get the ball to Christian Watson. A marginal player at best. Just ask Kevin. He knows talent when he sees it. He’s already passed judgement on Watson and it wasn’t pretty. Kevin wrote an open letter to the Bears GM telling him to trade Justin Fields immediately for a 7th round draft pick. Running and throwing TD’s. Completing 80% of his passes. That’s no sign of a franchise QB! He’s had a year and a half, Kevin has seen enough! It’s time to move on and start newly signed Tim Boyle. Now there’s a franchise QB! He just needs a chance, says Kevin! I know what everyone is asking themselves. Why doesn’t the shrewd talent evaluator Kevin run his own team? Yeah, I can’t explain it either. But look for Justin Fields to go to the bench. What a wasted draft pick! Bring on the Tim Boyle dynasty!
Easy there Tommi
Try to get it under control.
You know what happened last time.
Nobody wants to see you go through another 5150.
That would be 3 this year.
Tom M. The Buffoon is winning BECAUSE he has a much better GM (which isn’t saying much) choosing coordinators for him, and getting the requisite talent NEEDED to win. But you already knew this. I wonder how many 3rd round busts Dallas has had since Green Bay’s 11 consecutive (soon to be 12) years of every 3rd round draft choice NOT making it past their rookie contracts???? The last one for Green Bay to get a 2nd contract was Morgan Burnett in 2010 . . . Let that sink in for a while.
The recent comments plugin was causing issues so I removed it for now. Should be able to just see the comment numbers now on each post on the main page.
When you go back and watch the game. Until the end of the first half, Rodgers virtually ignored Christian Watson. Throwing instead to his buddy Randall Cobb, Robert Tonyan, and Allan Lazard. After the 4th down TD pass to Watson at the end of the half, Rodgers made a conscious effort to get his young playmaker the ball. That was the difference in the game. That and being able to run the ball. AJ Dillion’s TD run was set up by a 30 yard PI call against a Chicago DB who was trying to cover Watson. I’ve been saying for weeks Christian Watson has some Randy Moss in him. Sure enough, the last rookie to score 8 TD’s in 4 games like Watson was Randy Moss. Watson and Dillion were the difference. Not Rodgers and his 180 yards passing. What was most impressive about Rodgers wasn’t his meager stats. But the fact there was no posturing, pouting, or eye rolling. It’s ok to get frustrated, it’s ok to get upset when things don’t go your way. But to be a diva and point the finger at others and act like your above it all is not acceptable. Rodgers can no longer deny he’s been a huge part of the problem here. He’s softened his tone considerably. Almost humbled. This would be a good strategy going forward for him. A way to win back fans that are becoming more vocal about criticizing him. We should get Romeo Doubs back after the bye. I’d go exclusively with Watson and Doubs out wide and Lazard in the slot. Teams want to load the box to stop the run? Fine, that puts Christian Watson one on one on the outside. I’ll take that all day. Teams want to double up Watson? That leave Doubs and his smooth route running one on one with your 2nd or 3rd best DB. Another match up I’ll take all day. You want play an extra DB to stop the pass? I’ll run the ball with Dillion and Jones. Whoever is QB next year. This offense will be dynamic and fun to watch.
I’m very happy that Watson has scored 9 TD’s.
Yes Tommi (9). Math is hard, i get it 😕
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I’m just as happy Rodgers made most of that possible.
But i guess that’s what HOF QB’s do, make others look good.
I’m very happy that Watson has scored 9 TD’s.
Yes Tommi (9). Math is hard, i get it 😕
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I’m just as happy Rodgers made most of that possible.
But i guess that’s what HOF QB’s do, make others look good.
This is the shit that honestly annoys me with you PF4L. You literally never give credit where it is due to anyone but Rodgers. There is the old saying where QBs get too much of the credit and too much of the blame.
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Take for example: Loves TD pass to Watson. According to you, Watson did all of the work there. Yet, whenever Rodgers throws a TD to Watson, Rodgers made it possible?!?!?!?
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I could hurl juvenile insults like you do, Tom M does, or Mike Klocek. But honestly, I am tired. Tired of the juvenile shit on this site. It’s why I mostly stayed away because literally no one is capable of being an adult. It’s probably why Rob left. Why most people have said fuck it. I don’t have patience for this shit anymore. 80% of the comments here anymore are pure garbage and insults, and very little actual nuanced, intelligent football discussion.
Kato, Kato, Kato….
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If i’m pushing somebody’s buttons, try not to have a an emotional panic attack.
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The post Kato…was worded that way on purpose. Just relax and have a nice journey.
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There is a good site down the hall where i go when there are no articles here.
Go down there and Carry The G, i’m sure you’ll be very happy.
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They cater to whiners
Kato 20 hours ago
This is the shit that honestly annoys me with you PF4L. You literally never give credit where it is due to anyone but Rodgers
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PF4L 3 days ago
Watson gets credit Kato…no doubt,
He’s making plays, credit due.
Especially the end around!!
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Kato 3 days ago
Right. Which is why I am not wanting to get too hyped up right now. Defenses are going to start gameplanning around the guy.
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Yea Kato….
I literally never give credit where it is due to anyone but Rodgers.
Except of course, when i do.
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Any other lies you want to spew before you leave this site for the 6th time?
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Good riddance
No one gives a Flying Fuck what you say about anything. You’re a Pontificating Dingleberry. Do us all Favor & Stay AWAY.
Who is ‘us all’? Three people?
That’s 8TD’s in 4 games Kevin. I didn’t mention his season total which is 9. I specifically said over the last 4 games. Two of his TD’s were hand offs on an end around. You’re saying he has to have a HOFer to hand off the ball? Sure sweetheart. The other was a thrown, by your astute talent evaluation, draft bust Jordan Love. Perhaps you can enlighten us on who’s the bigger draft bust. Jordan Love or Justin Fields? In the meantime 39 year old Aaron Rodgers has turned into the next Kirk Cousins. As long as he’s got perfect WR’s, a perfect running game, and a perfect OL, he might throw for 200 yards. Maybe. No guarantees. See Rodgers piss poor game against Chicago. But he’s the reason we won! Right girls?
^Buttons pushed^……so easy 😲
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Yes Princess, the Packers had 3 scoring drives in the 4th quarter which gained 204 yards and scored 18 unanswered points.
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Rodgers had something to do with that, as did the defense, Crosby, Watson, Dillon, Lewis, and the rest of the team.
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Thanks for participating Kato and Tommi.
That’s two melt downs in the last day…..anyone else want to spring a leak?
Want to make amends Kato?
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Take Tommi with you.
Tom M 20 hours ago
Perhaps you can enlighten us on who’s the bigger draft bust. Jordan Love or Justin Fields?
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Well..lol
I’d need the help of Gisele’s psychic for that one sweetheart.
But i know who wasn’t a bust, Aaron fucking Rodgers.
According to a recent survey 80% of Packer fans said they’d like to see Jordan Love start games at some point this season. While Brian Gutekunst in his presser said he doesn’t need to see Jordan Love start to make a decision on Love going forward. Although he did say Love would benefit from the reps. All the while telling everyone who would listen how much he wanted Rodgers back next season. Maybe. Aaron Rodgers has looked average at best this season. And that’s before the thumb and rib injuries. In fact, he look horrendous in the playoff lose to the 49ers. He hasn’t had a game up to his standards since the early part of December last year. And there’s no guarantee he returns to MVP form next year. This maybe is as good as it gets for 39 year old Rodgers going forward. And if it is, how long can he play like this before fans demand a change at QB? They’re already getting restless now wanting to see what we have with Love. Rodgers may very well walk away as a starter after this season rather than jeopardize finishing next season on the bench. He gets paid regardless. He may decide not to risk tarnishing his legacy and retire.
According to a recent survey, 99.999% of Packer fans said they wished Gute drafted a receiver in the 1st round of the 2020 draft. A player who could have added much needed talent (on the field these past 3 seasons.
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In other news, stop by at 7pm CT tonight as we discuss Preston Smith’s Pro Bowl season, and his double digit sack total, as was predicted pre-season by our resident viking fan.
If time allows, we can discuss the genius of the Packers signing Preston Smith to an additional 4 year contract this year, over his original bloated 2019 contract, both contracts totaling 104 million dollars.
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Don’t underestimate what that kind of money can buy folks.
A 30 year old non Pro Bowl “playmaker” with 5.5 sacks already, coupled with zero forced fumbles in only 13 games so far.
All for the bargain basement price of only 13.9 million.
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Brian Gutekunst folks, or as i call him, Mr. Wisdom.
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You have to get up pretty early in the morning to make Brian Gutekunst look like a putz.
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I’d say…about 10:30am or so?
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Mr Gutekunst will join us next week for his new book launch.
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“Moving on from a HOF QB….for Dummies.”
How to piss away 101 million dollars, while pissing off two QB’s
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Forward written by Mark “i’m the boss” Murphy.
Who would that WR have been Kevin if Jordan Love was not drafted? The three top remaining WR’s left on the board with the 26th pick in the first round of the 2020 draft were Chase Claypool, Denzel Mims, and Tee Higgins. Chase Claypool has been so impressive, Pittsburgh traded him to Chicago and EQ out played him last week against the Packers. Denzel Mims has done virtually nothing with the Jets. Tee Higgins, the best out of the lot isn’t exactly setting the league on fire and isn’t a difference maker. Every draft, college football produces 20 to 25 WR’s of varying abilities. This notion you have to draft a WR in the first round is a silly one. Case in point. There were 5 WR drafted in the first round in the 2022 draft. Christian Watson is better than all of them. While Romeo Doubs will be better than a third to a half of them. I’ve been saying this for a while now. You can find WR’s anywhere in the draft. Franchise QB’s not so much. When Gutekunst said Love fell to him he was right. You have to take potential franchise QB when you get the chance because they don’t come along every draft. And some teams take decades to find one. A decent WR? They’re a dime a dozen. Aaron Rodgers may very well retire after this season. He doesn’t have to play to get his money. The organization is not held hostage to what the temperamental diva decides. The Jordan Love pick gives the team flexibility. And that’s a good thing….
It’s a pity MMSUCKS you couldn’t have passed on your insider information on the Dallas Cowboys organization before Aaron Rodgers signed his contract extension. Perhaps he could have facilitated a trade to the Cowboys where Dallas could be 5-8 right now instead of the Packers. So we’re now blaming Preston Smith because Aaron Rodgers can’t throw for more than 180 yards a game? What’s next? We gonna blame Zac Tom when little Erin can’t come within 5 yards of Romeo Doubs or Christian Watson on a crossing route? Live the fantasy ladies. Where Erin gazes lovingly into Jordy’s blue eyes as he throws the perfect pass in the back of the end zone for the game winning TD…..
Tom M 56
“Who would that WR have been Kevin if Jordan Love was not drafted? The three top remaining WR’s left on the board, blah,blah,blah,blah…………”
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Tommi, listen close, stop eating your lucky charms and just listen……i’d expect that kind of question by a 2nd grader whose brain has yet to be developed.
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The Packers traded up for Love right? Was there some new rule in the 2020 NFL draft that said the Packers couldn’t have traded up for a receiver?
Let’s let that sink in for a moment.
Moment of silence please.
God (allegedly) gave you a brain, at least attempt to try and use it.
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Stop wasting my time Tommi.
Think….before you post.
Or…have somebody smarter than you in your trailer park, review your post before sending
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Christian Watson had 6 forgettable games, then he made flash plays (credit due)
in the next 4 games.
So now he’s a made man in the NFL?
He’s a better receiver than anyone in the 2022 draft based on 4 rookie games?…before anyone’s rookie season is over?
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Is that something like Jordan Love proved he’s a starting NFL QB because he had 6 pass completions in his 3rd season?
Is that how this all works Princess?
One game of 3 minutes, and/or 4 games to prove yourself superior over all others?
That’s all it takes in the NFL Princess?
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Killer….if your family still speaks to you, do they make fun of you because your slow and mentally challenged?
If so, i think that’s cruel.
Righteous, but still cruel.
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I get that i pick on you…but for the love of God Tommi.
I’m starting to feel somewhat guilty about it.
Like i’m humiliating somebody performing in the Special Olympics.
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Finally, you keep repeating to us….
” I’ve been saying this for a while now. You can find WR’s anywhere in the draft.”
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Well, we’ve had this discussion killer.
Why then, has it been so hard for Brian Gutekunst since 2018?
Doesn’t he know he can find wide receivers anywhere?
Do you need to teach him that?
Is he just that bad of a GM?
Would we be knee deep in talented receivers if YOU, Tom M, had been running the draft room since 2018?
Or does it take 5 draft classes to find anyone of potential, like it’s taken Gute?
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Take some time off Tommi, rest your head. I’ll talk to JP and see if we can send you some sort of participation ribbon, maybe even a banner.
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SKOL!
You got nothing as usual Tommi?
Shocking 😯
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Take your time.
Nobody expects anything from you.
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We know what your wheel house is, one sided conversations concerning….Rodgers, Rodgers, Rodgers, Rodgers, Rodgers, Rodgers, Rodgers, Rodgers…….
(short intermission)
then more Rodgers, Rodgers, Rodgers, Rodgers, Rodgers, Rodgers,……….
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I understand (we all understand) your Rodgers obsession Tommi, but how bout your 10-2 vikings?
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SKOL!!
Did Chase Claypool put Big Ben and the Steelers, a perennial playoff team, over the top and propel them to the Super Bowl? No. So what makes you think Kevin that Chase Claypool would have been the difference maker for the Packers? Here’s a news flash, he would not have been. Likewise it wasn’t Tee Higgins that got Cincinnati to the SB last year. It was Joe Burrow, JaMarr Chase, and Joe Mixon that were the difference makers for the Bengals. Tee Higgins, a nice player to be sure, was just along for the ride. The 49ers jumped the Packers to take Brandon Ayiuk. Has he put San Francisco in the SB? No. If they get there this year it will be because of Deebo Samuel and the defense. Brandon Ayiuk will be just an afterthought. You can’t say Kevin, “the Packers should have drafted a WR instead of Jordan Love” without naming that receiver. We’re now three years removed from the 2020 draft to get some sense on what Brian Gutekunst passed on to take Jordan Love. The answer, not much. Which makes rolling the dice on Jordan Love the right call. Now, if Gutekunst had passed on a Christian Watson type player to draft Love, or even a Romeo Doubs, then you’ve got an argument. Chase Claypool or Tee Higgins not so much.
Again……The Packers traded up for Love right?
Was there some new rule in the 2020 NFL draft that said the Packers couldn’t have traded up for a receiver?
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You mention a lot of 2nd round receivers.
We’re talking about the 1st round, did i mention 2nd round receivers?
Newsflash for the hell of it, those 2nd round receivers would have given us far more productivity than Love.
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“The 49ers jumped the Packers to take Brandon Ayiuk. Has he put San Francisco in the SB?” <—– that's your reasoning that taking Love was the right move?
REALLY?
You're dumber than i even thought.
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"We’re now three years removed from the 2020 draft to get some sense on what Brian Gutekunst passed on to take Jordan Love. The answer, not much." -Tommi
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Not much?…And Jordan Love and that 4th round pick traded for him has given the Packers what the last 3 years?
WHAT TOMMI?
It's given us this ..
1) The strong indication the team was working Rodgers out of Green Bay
2) A 1st round player and a draft pick, that sat on a bench offering no productivity for years.
3) A 180 in a change in plans (AWAY) from Love.
4) 3 year 150 million to keep Rodgers around
5) 20 million dollar decision on Love to keep him a 5th year.
While he continues to offer nothing sitting on the bench his 4th year.
NO….Rodgers isn't going to retire.
6) 3 TD's and 3 interceptions….YAY!
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So no receiver could have given us more than that Tommi?
Is that what your brain came up with Tommi?
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Gute rolled the dice on Love…and he was right Tommi?
That's comical and pathetic for you to say that.
You really………believe that?
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Gute rolled the dice Tommi, and so far looks like a fool for doing it.
The Packers own actions, tell you that.
The production any those receivers had with their team is (irrelevant) to the Packers, the team and the dynamics would have been different, not to mention playing with the best QB in the league those first two years.
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Go ahead and finish those lucky charms Tommi, you're lost and well, you'll always be lost.
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Now i can see why you ignore comments and questions, and can't debate intelligently.
Because your not capable.
You can not say, “we’ll just trade up to take a WR” without a trade partner. It takes two to tango Kevin. According to Chris Spielman, then Minnesota Vikings GM, Brian Gutekunst called and offered such a trade for the Vikings 20th pick to take Justin Jefferson. Spielman rightfully said no taking Jefferson himself. And if Gutekunst had called a division rival, then he called other teams drafting in the teens as well looking to trade up. The problem becomes a drop off in talent. You still get a blue chip prospect drafting in the teens. When you draft 29th, like the Packers and would have offered the pick in trade, you’re really getting a second round talent on a first round contract. That 29th pick isn’t very desirable therefore facilitating a trade more difficult. The true first round, blue chip prospects are gone by then. It’s why it’s far easier and the price less steep going from the 29th pick to the 26th. Likewise the 49ers trading up 28th to 25th to take Brandon Aiyuk. The players drafted at the back end of round one virtually grade out the same as second round talent. By the 25th pick, Aiyuk, Higgins, Claypool, Mims, DJ Hamler, all graded out the same as second round talent. It then becomes which WR best fits your offense. And therefore an easier trade to make. There was no Justin Jefferson or Cee Dee Lamb in that second tier of WR’s. Understanding this, Gutekunst elected to draft Jordan Love. A QB with first round talent but incredibly raw. A gifted player, but a developmental project that wasn’t going to still be around when the Packers were to draft again at the bottom of the second round. Bottom line Kevin, after being unable to trade up 10 or 12 spots to procure a top tier WR, Gutekunst elected to draft Jordan Love and passing on the very average Tee Higgins/Chase Claypool/Denzel Mims WR group. A calculated risk worth taking considering Love’s current development and Rodgers fading status. We have a fading franchise QB and we’ll need another one going forward. Gutekunst had the vision to see this day coming and to be prepared. All for the price of an average WR in the back end of the first round of the 2020 draft. That’s smart Kevin, whether you want to admit it or not.
OHHHH!!…i see….lol
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A trade up wasn’t possible…gotchya!! 🙄
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You know all, sitting on your futon, exactly how details of the 2020 first round went down between teams. ….gotchya!! 🙄
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“….. considering Love’s current development and Rodgers fading status…..”
Ah…this based on Loves 6 completions?….gotchya!! 🙄
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“We have a fading franchise QB and we’ll need another one going forward.” – Tommi
Ah…this based on Loves 6 completions?….gotchya!! 🙄
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Or these gold nuggets….
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“We don’t need receivers, not with our top 5 defense” – Tommi
Ah….gotchya!! 🙄
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“Royce Newman is a 10 year starter” – Tommi
You are a shrewd talent evaluator Tommi….gotchya!! 🙄
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“Gute guaranteed Love’s 5th year option after the draft, before he even got to Green Bay” – Tommi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqh1EFJy_WU
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“Preston Smith will make the Pro Bowl and get double digit sacks and his contract will be a bargain” – Tommi
So smart you are Tommi.
A virtual NFL God..ALL KNOWING, so smart 🙄
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Tommi……try this one, just for kicks.
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Ever wonder…..why Murphy, Gute,and Ball, gave Rodgers a 3 year 150 million dollar deal 9 months ago…for (in your words) a fading franchise QB?
Ever wonder why that happened?
Please spare us that..Rodgers made them do it somehow. 🙄
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Teach us ladies, show us how smart you are 🙄
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EXTRA CREDIT!!!!
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Baker Mayfield did more than complete 6 passes Thur. night against the Raiders.
He drove the Rams 98 yards in 1:35 seconds and threw a game winning 23 yard TD pass to Van Jefferson to beat the Raiders with 10 seconds left on the clock.
Based on that one game, because we know how you like to anoint, based on a part of 1 game.
Would you call Canton to reserve a spot for Baker?
Or just tell everyone, he is now the Rams franchise QB?
How does that all work in your world?
🙄
Candidate for top 5 dumbest things i’ve ever read in here.
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“We’re now three years removed from the 2020 draft to get some sense on what Brian Gutekunst passed on to take Jordan Love. The answer, not much. Which makes rolling the dice on Jordan Love the right call.” – Tommi
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You can’t fix stupid.
You want to talk Preston Smith’s contract? Let’s talk little Erin’s contract. At 5-8 is he earning his money? Let me help you. No. We can move off Smith after this season. Not so much with Erin. I was ready to trade Rodgers two years ago. I’ve been saying, you’ll never win a SB with this clown and neither will anyone else. I don’t care who his WR’s are. He plays small in big games. Trading up in the draft is like you getting laid Kevin. You have to have a willing partner. Your mom and sister don’t count. And to further the analogy, no woman in their right mind would bang you without some sort financial compensation. So that begs the question, how much money would it take? For most women Kevin, more than you’ve got. It’s the same with moving up in the draft. The price becomes too prohibitive to move up. You can trade away the future for the hope of landing a franchise QB because they’re so hard to find. You’re foolish to do so for a WR. Especially for one that first has to earn Rodgers trust and then has to play second fiddle to Davante Adams and take less touches. Just like it’s cheaper for you to beat off than pay to get laid. It wasn’t financially feasible for Gutekunst to trade up for a WR in the first round. Assuming he could find a trade partner. And if Jordan Love turns out to be the real deal, then it’s a good thing for Packer fans that he didn’t trade up for a WR. For Aaron Rodgers fans, like yourself, not so much. Christian Watson looks to be every bit as good as Justin Jefferson. While JaMarr Chase taken in last years draft also looks as good as Jefferson. Watson could actually be better than both. Once again, it’s easier to find WR’s than franchise QB’s. It took exactly one draft for Minnesota to replace Stefon Diggs with Justin Jefferson. It took exactly one draft for the Packers to replace Davante Adams with Christian Watson. While QB’s taken in the first round struggle and are no sure thing. Nevertheless your nothing without one. It’s why Jordan Love was worth the risk. Playing fantasy football with your draft capital to appease your diva QB is a dangerous game.
OHHHH!!…i see….lol
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A trade up wasn’t possible…gotchya!! 🙄
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You know all, sitting on your futon, exactly how details of the 2020 first round went down between teams. ….gotchya!! 🙄
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“….. considering Love’s current development and Rodgers fading status…..”
Ah…this based on Loves 6 completions?….gotchya!! 🙄
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“We have a fading franchise QB and we’ll need another one going forward.” – Tommi
Ah…this based on Loves 6 completions?….gotchya!! 🙄
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Or these gold nuggets….
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“We don’t need receivers, not with our top 5 defense” – Tommi
Ah….gotchya!! 🙄
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“Royce Newman is a 10 year starter” – Tommi
You are a shrewd talent evaluator Tommi….gotchya!! 🙄
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“Gute guaranteed Love’s 5th year option after the draft, before he even got to Green Bay” – Tommi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqh1EFJy_WU
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“Preston Smith will make the Pro Bowl and get double digit sacks and his contract will be a bargain” – Tommi
So smart you are Tommi.
A virtual NFL God..ALL KNOWING, so smart 🙄
.
Tommi……try this one, just for kicks.
.
Ever wonder…..why Murphy, Gute,and Ball, gave Rodgers a 3 year 150 million dollar deal 9 months ago…for (in your words) a fading franchise QB?
Ever wonder why that happened?
Please spare us that..Rodgers made them do it somehow. 🙄
.
Teach us ladies, show us how smart you are 🙄
.
EXTRA CREDIT!!!!
.
Baker Mayfield did more than complete 6 passes Thur. night against the Raiders.
He drove the Rams 98 yards in 1:35 seconds and threw a game winning 23 yard TD pass to Van Jefferson to beat the Raiders with 10 seconds left on the clock.
Based on that one game, because we know how you like to anoint, based on a part of 1 game.
Would you call Canton to reserve a spot for Baker?
Or just tell everyone, he is now the Rams franchise QB?
How does that all work in your world?
I see that we have a biased moderator in here. Someone that SUPPORTS tom m.
That was made evident almost two years ago when she brought up the sexual prowess of other readers Mothers and sisters.
That gave her the green light to be a twat….full time.
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For all we know, TOM M is somebody on this websites staff.
(That would explain some things)
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Just sayin.