For Dan Campbell, it was the type of Sunday that may save his job. For Packer fans, if they had a glimmer of hope that their team would start a run toward credibility, water was poured over that smoldering hope like Niagara Falls after a hard rain with each Aaron Rodgers interception at Ford Field Sunday. Rodgers was saved from having a stat of two picks in the first quarter by a couple ticks of the clock. His second happened on the first play of the second quarter on a pass that looked so bad the statistician said it was intended for David Bakhtiari. That had to be a mistake, right? If it truly was, Bakhtiari was eligible on the play, the Packers were resorting to desperation gadget plays against the Lions, and failing miserably.
LaFleur has had great success over his first three years in Green Bay, but that call was a WTF moment for Packer fans. Many will remember Bakhtiari being interviewed by Wilde & Taucsh in 2019 talking about his desire to score a TD. In the interview the new Packer go-to gadget man stated point blank. “If I touch a football in a game something terrible has happened.” Turns out even an attempt to get him the ball spells disaster for this Packer team. The best argument you could make for drawing that play up, if it was really going to Bakhtiari, is nobody on the face of the planet would expect the Packers to draw up a play to a limping offensive tackle who has never caught a pass in his ten year career. Why would you risk further injury to his knee? As a fan I am going to refuse to listen to the post game interviews and just convince myself that the play must have been a blown assignment, by QB or receiver or perhaps both. That sports fans is satire giving way to the protection of my sanity.
In a story recap that repeats weekly like an old vinyl Three Dog Night record with a skip in it, the Packers had opportunities to win this game. At times the offense looked like they could slice through the Lions defense. Allen Lazard made a number of tough catches to keep drives alive. He averaged over 20 yards on his four catches, contributing 87 yards for the offense. But then he let one graze the ground and what would have been his fifth catch was overruled. At the end of the half there were no points for the offense. When they had opportunities, they failed to execute. Key players went down to injury. When the opponent scored just before the half they were helped by a Packer defensive 15 yard Unnecessary Roughness penalty. On the final touchdown play of that drive rookie linebacker Quay Walker had the tight end run right across his face and he did not react, leaving the Lions Jared Goff his easiest touchdown throw of his career. The defense created a big interception only to have Rodgers turn the ball over immediately. This vinyl record keeps repeating the same bad tune week after week. One carved out of GBP history, circa 1969.
What was new was the three interceptions by Rodgers. You can’t blame young receivers when you bounce passes off of helmets at the line of scrimmage. On the final drive Rodgers had four chances from the 17 yard line. Four incompletions. The last pass to no one and Rodgers reaction summed up the season. WTF is going on? The Packers have not faced this type of crossroads in decades. Even the 2017 McCarthy era meltdown had a silver lining, Rodgers was still in his prime. This game makes it easy to start picking apart Packer GM moves. Sammy Watkins had one catch on 9 targets. Last week he had one catch for three yards. He’s missed multiple games to injury. But the real focus for bad decisions rests on Rodgers and LaFleur. Rodgers for missing workouts in the off-season and not demanding playing time in the preseason when the receivers were struggling in practice. He signed a 150 million contract and quickly set a tone for the season by no showing for off-season non mandatory workouts and then acquiescing to LaFleur’s fear of preseason injury.
Clearly working with Jordan Love is insufficient to prepare Rodgers with new receivers. Ironically, after this string of losses the Packers are still in playoff contention. At least statistically. Old friend Mike McCarthy is coming back to town next week and his team sees a chance to win more than a game for their coach.. McCarthy’s Cowboys lost their starting QB, but McCarthy is credited with holding the team together and Dallas is now in the playoff conversation. A loss to McCarthy would, as Wayne Larrivee loves to say, be the final dagger in the side of this 2022 Packer team. LaFleur was supposed to be the answer to the problem that was Super Bowl winning McCarthy in 2017. So you think the Packers have hit rock bottom? Ask Davante Adams how it feels to be on the second worst team in the NFL at 2-7, a team that has tied an NFL record losing three games after leading by 17 points. The Raiders are one of five teams with a record worse than the Packers. No team is awarded sympathy points in the NFL. Raider coach Josh McDaniel is on the block in Vegas. Next week could start the same conversations in Green Bay.
START THE CONVERSATION… NOW… INCLUDING THE FO AND THE DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR!!!!!!!
Your takeaway from this game is the defensive coordinator needs to be gone? After giving up 15 points to an offense that has been pretty good this year. That’s, um, interesting
I’m with you here. Kind of hard to bag on Barry when they held them to 15 points. About the only thing I would rag on would be the discipline of some of those players in his unit getting stupid ass undisciplined penalties in some of the recent games. Bad calls are one thing but bad judgement pushing and shoving out of bounds and getting 15 yards tacked on and negating good plays is another. Inexcusable.
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But yes, overall the defense did their job here.
Agreed. The defense hasn’t exactly been disciplined, and I have definitely had issues with the strategies employed, like not having Jaire follow the best WR, the corners playing so soft, overall lack of aggressiveness. And the defense has certainly underperformed considering the resources that have been poured into that side of the ball. None of that can be denied. But anyone that has watched these games would say the offense has been the crux of the issues. Firing Barry at this point fixes nothing and is nothing more than a fall man for the biggest issues plaguing this team
It’s actually easy to bag on Joe Barry. He will be forever associated with the 2008 Detroit Lions. People associated with losers like that should have never been hired in the first place
It’s part of the current philosophy in Green Bay to tolerate losing as long as the money from the fans keeps coming in
Start the countdown on LaFluer. INDY & Carolina in HC search, we should be right behind them.
Why should MLF be fired? His QB is playing poorly, and he wasn’t given enough talent in the WR room to make it happen.
We finish 3-14 someones got to go. Nature of the business. I would prefer they shitcan both LaFluer & Gutekunst, hire competent GM and go from there. This isn’t working. I never liked hire & who the hell ever heard of Matt LaFluer?? Even Mike Vrabel said he was shocked he was hired as a HC & thats who he worked under. NUFF said
Firing MLF would be the most retarded, knee-jerk reaction ever
stefsandwich or whatever his name is, would be let go before LeFleur.
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Just like how it went down last time before Gravy Boat got fired.
There’s a pecking order of fall guys
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While Rodgers just sits behind a 3 story stack of $100 bills thinking…..”i’m good” 😁
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Money he’s earned over the last decade plus, of carrying this team on his shoulders, not to mention all the job security he provided.
Then factor in all the revenue Rodgers has brought in over the tears…i mean fuck, the Packers probably still owe him money.
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Ask Killer…this is one area where Tommi and i agree.
There are going to have to be some tough conversations in that building. Obviously the decision to not trade Rodgers has gone horribly wrong. At this point, it is a lost season. You have lost Gary, and likely Stokes for the season. Your top rookie WR has now suffered two concussions, which is alarming. Can he even play the rest of the season safely or will he just be shutdown. Your other rookie has a high ankle sprain and will be out at least a month. Cobb is still out a couple weeks, Sammy Watkins is straight awful, and really shouldn’t be on the roster, but only will be because they need a warm body out there. Rodgers just looks old, and has a broken thumb and sub par receivers on top of it. At what point do you do the sensible thing and shut him down, and have what is probably an inevitable surgery on the thumb? The Packers need to evaluate Jordan Love and make a determination whether he is the guy going forward, or if they need to go another direction, since they will probably have a top 5 draft pick and be in position to take one of the top QB prospects. The window is shut, and the Packers will have to have a conversation with Aaron in the off-season whether he wants to be on a rebuild team in 2023, because that’s exactly what it is going to be. They went all in since 2019 maxing out credit cards in FA, and then trying to keep the team together after 2020 and 2021 by kicking money into future years making this year do or die. Sure, there are some things they can do next year to create cap space and try to retool the roster. But at what cost? And is it worth it for a QB that doesn’t look like he even wants to be out there and turns 40 next season. It sucks, because this team was so close in 2020 and 2021. A lot of bad breaks along the way like losing the best LT in the league for the pivotal playoff games those two years, a loss that is irreplaceable in the NFL where there are a lot of great edge rushers that only a handful of players can subdue.
“Your top rookie WR has now suffered two concussions”
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Top rookie wr?….I’ll admit, i’m lost and confused….i don’t remember our top rookie receiver suffering 2 concussions…but then, what do i know. 😯
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I’ll have my thoughts on the Packers options…with Rodgers.
Mixing it with the original plans of Gute/Murphy moving on from Rodgers and how their strategy turned out to be a cluster fuck that bred other cluster fuck moments.
Which brings us to the cluster fuck we have today.
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But it will have to be sometime after my tutorial on starting Jordan Love.(coming soon)
Our highest picked rookie WR? Sorry, bad wording
As i was forgiven the other day…..
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No worries.
The Packers don’t have that many options. In case you’re unaware (and I don’t mean this in a condescending way), the Packers can’t really trade Rodgers in 2023, due to the dead cap issues. If they traded Rodgers after June 1 2023, they would have a $40 million dead cap, whereas Rodgers cap hit playing on the team is $31 million. I think even if they didn’t care about the dead cap, it’s not really possible to have $40 million dead for one guy and actually have a full roster. The only way to lower the dead cap is if Rodgers retires, and then there is some complicated process which allows the Packers to redo the contract. Sorry, not the best explanation, but one I remember reading. So they kind of are stuck with Rodgers for 2023 at least unless he retires. I’m also not sure if he will want to retire after a losing season that the Packers will probably have.
I’m not sure if there there will be a great QB class for 2023. If the Packers lose enough games they could be picking in the top 10 and would have a shot at the best available. But then imagine how awkward that would be. They would have Rodgers, Love and then some other guy on the team.
Where do i start?
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C’mon, lets keep this 💯….the reason the Cowboys survived Prescott being out is the Cowboys defense, and not the defense run by McCarthy’s hand picked Mike Nolan 32nd ranked defense.
But the defense brought to you by Jones hiring of Dan Quinn.
Per Jerry Jones orders when McCarthy was hired.
Kellen Moore calls the plays…what does McCarthy actually do?
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After going 13-3 for the last 3 seasons, MLF is in no danger of being on the chopping block by any stretch of the imagination not under Murphy’s watch. Hell, he might get a 5 year extension.
Look at how Gutee drove this team into the ground, then “earning” himself a fat extension.
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Word from the streets in Dallas……
Apparently there is real talk about Jones making Dan Quinn the head coach. I could see that, if promises were made.
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Game observation……
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For as bad as Rodgers played, for as bad as the defense had in their occasional lapse’s, for as bad as the rushing offense was, for as many injuries as the Packers suffered,….the Packers were still in this game until the end.
What does that say about the Detroit Lions.
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Join me later for my tutorial on why the Packers won’t start Jordan Love, despite what our resident Princess viking fan may tell you… over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and……..
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Can someone borrow Princess Tommi a pen to take notes…..?
It’s lurn’n time Tommi 😏
I guess I am legitimately curious as to why you think they won’t? It doesn’t really make sense to not get a couple starts out of Love, at least to try and salvage something out of this season and figure out which direction to go in the off-season at the position, assuming Rodgers retires, or maybe they go the trade route if Rodgers wants off of a rebuilding team and to a contender for his last season or two. Especially if they are picking in the top 5 of the draft. Looking at the schedule, their last two games are home games. Now, I do feel like the organization does owe it to their fans to have Rodgers out there one last time at home. Juggling that and an evaluation of Love will be tough, I will admit, but they have to make it happen
Well, i honestly was going to do that, and then i also was going to post about how Tommi thinks McCarthy is coming for revenge and how misguided that concept is…. i was going to go into some detail explaining all that, and how i saw the last 4 years or so go for the Packers/McCarthy..
You know me, you know i’m fully capable of doing all that and then some.
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But it dawned on me the time i would spend doing it, and frankly, i’m tired of feeling like i’m losing brain cells trying to voice my opinions/explain things.
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A lot of times i feel like i’m trying to have a conversation with a head of lettuce.
I’m probably going to continue posting more down the hall, this shit in here is getting old..rinse,repeat,rinse,repeat………..
I’ll still post in here, but just tongue in cheek, sarcastic, dry smart ass stuff, ya know…the usual light stuff.
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Plus the articles get old, because they aren’t replaced….so the comments often repeat themselves, get stale and ugly.
I mean…there wasn’t even a Game Day article for Sunday’s Packer/Lion tilt.
That tells me that JP barely gives a shit about this place,
That’s why the comment count gets as high as it does, because the articles don’t get replaced.
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Once we saw that Rob wasn’t coming back, that was trouble.
He did the heavy lifting for JP, and was the integrity factor in here, as far as i’m concerned.
I shouldn’t have said “won’t” start Love. More why they “shouldn’t”
Hell… who knows, i’ve seen some bad juju with Team Murphy/Gute.
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Nutshell Kato…..i don’t think there is much upside in putting Love in, for a good number of reasons.
As for the David Bahktiari play, that has Aaron Rodgers fingerprints all over it. Bahk is one of Aaron’s best friends on the team. Just doesn’t seem like a MLF designed play. Although fwiw, he was open, Aaron just decided to fling it off his back foot when he had plenty of time to set his feet and attempt an accurate throw.
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There is a disconnect in the way Rodgers wants to play offense and the way MLF wants to play. MLF wants more motion, Rodgers doesn’t. MLF wants more under center play, Rodgers doesn’t (maybe because of his thumb, idk). In a season that doesn’t particularly matter anymore, I am legitimately curious to watch Love run the offense the way MLF wants to run it, although at this point given the injuries to the WR position, it makes that more difficult to do
Pssttt, yes…Rodgers had a shitty game, bad throws….there, the secret is out.
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If you want to voice your opinion…have at it, we’ll all read it and maybe have decent debate/conversation about it.
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But don’t talk like…Rodgers wants that, but MLF wants this, and MLF wants Rodgers under center, but Rodgers doesn’t……Did these guys phone you and tell you this?
To me…i always thought they favored the shotgun because it gives the QB more time to assess and watch plays unfold and step up, roll out if needed. It also works better i’m guessing with a leaking O line.
Let’s say Rodgers does prefer to work under the shotgun, he can’t have a preference, it’s not allowed? Does that make him Satan?
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Nothing wrong with telling us what you think, your opinions, but please… don’t word it as fact, like you have first hand knowledge, isn’t that Tommi’s job.
Say what you want about the trick play to Bakhtiari. He was wide open. It’s not LaFleur’s fault his QB can’t throw the ball beyond the line of scrimmage. All of Rodgers throws were either short or behind his WR’s. Samori Toure made an impossible catch on 4th down on a ball that wasn’t even close to being a completion. The throw to Amari Rodgers on the goal line on the last series was also behind him. If Rodgers leads him with the throw that’s an easy TD. And who the hell knows what Rodgers was thinking on that last play. I understand denial is a powerful thing, but how much more do you have to see before you realize Aaron Rodgers is a big part of the problem here? Just stop with the defense. They gave up 15 points. If you can’t score 16 against the Lions you don’t deserve to win. Payback is a bitch and Big Mike is gonna give it to little Erin in spades next week. Bend over Erin and don’t bother with the lube. Big Mike’s your daddy now…..
Tom M 3 hours ago
Say what you want about the trick play to Bakhtiari. He was wide open.
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Wait just one G D fricken minute here….he was open, Bakhtiari? Really?
Hell….i missed that, are you serious?
I got to go back and watch that again!!.
A NFL QB threw a ball short?
Get the F out town!!
How does that even happen in the modern day NFL?
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Tommi…can you tell me the quarter and what time of the game that happened, i need to re-watch it.
I can’t believe he was wide open, hell, i can’t believe i missed that!!….I gotta see this for myself.
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Thanks for the help Tom M….appreciate it.
Read the article, Piffle. With reading comprehension comes reaction understanding.
Hey, how about this 2022 year? Pretty fun!
I hear ya Tommi….i didn’t really read the article.
I didn’t know he was G D wide open.
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Apparently i don’t pay much attention watching the game either.
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I’m just happy you guys are here to help me understand what i watched.
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THANK YOU
2022 is a beginning to an end Tommi. The last 30 years have been either fun or entertaining.
2 HOF QB’s, 2 Super Bowl wins, a shipload of Pro Bowl seasons, a boatload of MVP’s.
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How about you Tommie, you viking fans still enjoying that NFC North Banner you guys like to hang?
LMAO…..
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” Big Mike’s your daddy now…..”
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I’ll come back to this when time always…lol
*allows
As for everyone wanting Rodgers out or they should have traded him DON’t remember Packers with QBs, Randy Wright, Blair Kiel, Vince Ferragamo, Mike Tomczak, Don Majikowski, John Hadl etc…Finding a Superstar QB doesnt happen overnight Nim-Rods. Hear your crying when Rodgers is gone and every season is like this one. Doormats of NFC, like 1973-1991
Lmfao so because you are scared of the prospects of having bad QB, which we are already having, you would rather keep Aaron Rodgers, even through his 40s out of nostalgia, because at least he isn’t some unknown quantity at QB? You do realize that the eagles drafted Wentz 3rd overall, got one great season out of him, he got hurt, they won the super bowl with Nick Foles. Fast forward a few years after some bad seasons, the eagles draft Jalen Hurts in the 2nd round, and now they have the best record in the NFL. You can’t be afraid of change in the NFL. Change is necessary sometimes. Counting on a 40 year old qb to win you a super bowl is a stupid strategy. I swear Packers fans might be the dumbest group of fans in the nfl
LMFAO at your BS. who gives a rats ass how things worked in Philly. Their GM also is aggressive and makes trades, brings in FA. Our GM sits around with thumb up ass, prob like you.
Um, they did. He literally maxed the credit cards in FA, attempted to trade for Darren Waller, Moore from Carolina, and Chase Claypool.
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So again, you believe we should just keep Rodgers forever? Because Rodgers at 50 years old is a better option than trying to get young at the position? I will bet you were the guy pissed at the Packers for moving on from Bert Favre
No your wrong I hated Favre. Cost us to many games and that he was a reckless QB.
They always try?? Thats what they say. They never land anyone. Looks to me like they kept the wrong Smith too.
Peter King noted in his column, if Packers would have thrown in a 5th or 6th. Would’a had Claypool. Like last year OBJ would have helped & GM low balled him with offer of NFL min & wanted him to return punts. No kidding he chose Rams
“Their GM is aggressive and makes trades”
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You mean like when they traded their 8th overall pick, their 3rd round pick, 4th round picks in 2016, their 2017 1st round pick, and 2018 2nd round pick to the browns for the 2nd pick so they could draft Carson Wentz, and then gave him a 4 year, $128 million contract? All for one great season, in which he didn’t even play in the super bowl that they won? Despite that insane draft capital investment, and terrible contract, they are leading the NFC with a QB that wasn’t on the roster when the Eagles signed Wentz to the extension.
Got AJ Brown, Robert Quinn
So the Eagles won a Super Bowl then…and are looking to win one this year?
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Yea, the Eagles don’t know shit.
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But apparently i heard they had a pretty damn good 2022 draft.
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Probably not as good as Green Bays draft.
You honestly think Claypool would have made this a playoff team? Holy shit. You aren’t watching the same games I am. It’s over dude. The window is closed. Rodgers days as an elite qb are over. Paying him the money they did was a huge mistake. The team doesn’t have any cap space the next two years. This isn’t fantasy football you fucking retard.
” Paying him the money GUTE did was a huge mistake. The team doesn’t have any cap space the next two years. This isn’t fantasy football you fucking retard.
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You talking to Mike, or Gute?
“Rodgers days as an elite qb are over.”
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Flashes of 2015!!…lol
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Ok, Kato….your going to double up again?
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So should we bench Rodgers put Love in, instead of Hundley this time around, like the last time you said Rodgers was finished
Why dont you go take it up ass. You FKG asswipe kato kalin
Kato…in all fairness…isn’t this question below, a question you should be asking Team Murphy/Gutee?
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Kato 3 days ago
Lmfao so because you are scared of the prospects of having bad QB, which we are already having, you would rather keep Aaron Rodgers, even through his 40s out of nostalgia….?
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They paid him to stick around, not Mike.
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” I swear Packers fans might be the dumbest group of fans in the nfl” – Kato
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You’re a Packer fan Kato…is that correct?
Mike, you can’t fix old. You’re suggesting we don’t even try to find a QB because of what happened 30-40 years ago? There, there, Mikey, come curl up in a ball and sleep in my sock drawer and dream of TD passes from Erin to Jordy! If Jordan Love had played the game Rodgers did yesterday, he’d have been tarred and feathered by now. Instead, it’s everyone else’s fault and Rodgers hasn’t lost a step. Your right about one thing Mike, it’s hard to find a franchise QB. That’s why you start looking before you actually need one. See the Jordan Love pick. And speaking of Jordan Love, I thought he’d be starting in December. It now looks like he could start as soon as the game after Dallas. Big Mike raw doggin’ little Erin looks to be the final insult before Jordan Love gets his shot. It’s coming girls and you can’t stop it.
Tom M 7 mins ago
Mike, you can’t fix old. Just like people tell me, you can’t fix stupid.
I bet you are old it often!
Say what Tommi?
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Try again Princess
TOM M = ANAL SPHINCTER
Majkowski was pretty good until Freddie Joe Nunn ripped his arm out the socket. Majkowski beat the 49ers in San Francisco the year the 49ers won the Super Bowl. He was done after his throwing arm was shot. And like today, the Packers kept saying he’s fine and will get back to his previous self. The Packers didn’t want to go back to Randy Wright or Blair Kiel or Anthony Dilweg. But he never came back because his arm was never the same. It’s hard to admit that a quarterback might be finished.
I was at that game – it was gruesome !!
Loved Majik, he had some great games !
My favorite – the time he beat da Bears by throwing TD w no time left and his left heal on the line of scrimmage…. Bears wouldn’t leave the field – demanding Zebras overturn the call….
The “asterisk” game…..lol
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The bears should put an asterisk after every game since the 2006 season.
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The vikings and Lions since the Super Bowl era began.
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Who is tied with Aaron Rodgers for the most SB wins in the last 56 years?
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The bears, vikings, and Lions….combined!!
Damn icebowl, you were in Phoenix for that game too? I was living in San Diego at that time. Remember how Freddy Joe Nunn ripped Majik’s arm off and beat him to death with it?? And we got to witness Anthony “Just call me the Wizard” Dilweg bring the Pack back for the win! Fun times, fun times. We may be on the cusp of more great memories just likes those in the near future. The rare win in a sea of futility!
This loss was 90 percent Rodgers fault. Neither Rodgers nor his cult followers are ever going to admit this. Now it’s very possible his thumb is way worse than he’s admitting. Or it could just be that he’s just physically unable to throw an accurate pass anymore. Or he’s quiet quitting – except not so quiet as he always blames his receivers for his off target passes. Rodgers has been off all season, even before his injury. Jordan Love is terrible, but I bet he would have scored more points than Rodgers against the Lions defense that averages giving up 33 points a game. I blame Gutenkunst for not trading Rodgers for a couple first round picks, because whether Jordan Love was starting or $50 million dollar a year Aaron Rodgers, the Packers are only going to win 4 or 5 games this season.
I personally think the thumb injury is probably affecting him quite a bit. He definitely was off before the injury, but now he looks like a bottom 5 QB in the NFL I think at this point there is nothing gained by him continuing to play.
I think the loss was more like 94.13% Rodgers fault, but i don’t want to quibble over it.
Lets call it 92%.
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You good with that Tommi?
Aaron Rodgers just announced his latest book club offering! It’s called “The Art of Relationships:” “How to be a Submissive Bitch and the Virtues of the West Coast Offense.” By Big Dom Daddy, Mike McCarthy! It’s ok if you don’t have time to pick up a copy. They’ll be a public display on Sunday at Lambeau. You won’t want to miss it!
The problem with the Packers is theres no owner to kick some ass. Nobody to put anybody on notice for this shit. Everybody just looks at each other in these times and goes, well its not my fault! Well its not my fault either! Well what are we gonna do! Well, i dont know! Then a couple days past and everybody is calmed down and they play another game and the cycle repeats itself again and again.
Reminds me of T Willy.
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He would point to other players on the field signalling whose fault it was, instead of taking blame.
One of the most fucked up things on the field i saw.
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His teammates must have loved him.
If the Packers had an owner, they would have moved to Milwaukee or St. Louis or San Antonio.
Lol…I love that!!
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That made me laugh, thanks Deep.
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Let me see if i got this right…..
If the Packers had an owner, move the team to Milw or somewhere…i love that!!!!
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Forget Green Bay, forget the legend of Lambeau Field, forget all the history and Legend of Vince Lombardi and Curly Lambeau of the Green Bay Packers.
Leave Green Bay.
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The Milwaukee Packers, i love you guys 😏
Well, if you did know the history of the Packers, you would know that there were many times in Packer history that they almost went bankrupt and there were attempts to gain private ownership. Green Bay, when the team isn’t winning, ALWAYS has financial difficulties. In the 30s a fan sued them because the seats broke and almost bankrupted them. In the late 40s, if Rockwood Lodge had not burned down and the Packers did not receive the insurance money for that, they might have gone bankrupt. In the 50s, there was a push from the NFL to move the team to Milwaukee because playing at City Stadium was not profitable for away teams. County Stadium was actually built as a football/baseball stadium with the intent of moving the Packers to Milwaukee. There were times when more profitable teams bailed them out, for instance, Lombardi was supposed to be only loaned to Green Bay from the Giants to get them back financially and Halas came to Green Bay to push for Lambeau Field. Even in the 70s and 80s there was talk of moving the Packers to Milwaukee to allow them to compete better and because the players hated the facilities in Green Bay Any private owner would have moved them. And both Lombardi and Lambeau wanted to take ownership of the team. Both left because they were unable to obtain ownership. So yeah, the first thing an owner would do is move the team.
Having an owner isn’t going to fix anything. It just means that he is permanently in charge and has the last say on everything, whether good or bad. Would you like it if Mark Murphy was the permanent owner?
Yes, the Packers need someone who is going to get things done and not sit on his hands or meddle in things that he shouldn’t. Murphy will be forced to retire in a few years so we’ll see who steps in his place. I’m sure the Lions or the Bears would love an opportunity like that.
So, Twitter has been fun all season dissecting the missed opportunities on offense this year. This is a fun one.
https://twitter.com/Sam_DHolman/status/1589784006790639616?t=v4Jd3PKIuTTOTarkYqeSaQ&s=19
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This is a fairly basic cover 2. It’s disguised a bit as the OLB drops into coverage on the right side of the defensive formation and the slot defender on the left blitzes, the safety on the right side of drops down in a robber role and slot defender bails to a deep safety spot, but its still basically cover 2. I am not even an offensive genius of any kind, but I can watch the route combination and can tell you Rodgers should be keying off of the safety. If the safety drops down to key on the TE (he does) that leaves the slot WR one on one vs the safety. He beats his man! Toure probably walks into the end zone if Rodgers hits him with a good throw toward the middle of the field and he catches it. The safety squatted on the route and doesn’t have his hips opened up to turn and run like he was expecting the other safety to pick up Toure. Rodgers bails early on it unnecessarily and it’s another missed opportunity. This shit has happened all season
Yes…the almighty all 22’s..watched from the comfort of a cushy chair at a cushy desk, on a nice 4k laptop.
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Now..go down on the field and get behind center and do it at eye level in real time against real NFL players.
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But fuck it….grab a bag of cheeto’s and enjoy yourself.
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I’ll go out on a limb and say Rodgers knows what he’s looking at and knows what he’s doing.
But maybe he has no clue….i don’t know.
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But i’d be highly entertained if someone from a football blog took a tablet up to Rodgers and showed him the error of his ways. I mean…i’d love to be there and watch that. 🤣
Special teams the last couple of years was the warning sign of how poorly our draft and develop was working. Packers fo finally did something smart and brought in a top special teams coach, a fantastic punter, and even a DOG from Oakland on special teams to lead the way. It hasn’t helped cause the roster has no depth.
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Outside of Gary, jenkins, Alexander and Myers there has been a serious issue adding talent to the roster.
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It’s been beaten to death way too much but they missed their chance to go all in by clutching their recently squandered third round picks too tightly. Jordan love..not aggressively upgrading the team the last 2 years…failing to offer adams a new contract etc.
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You guys keep fighting over what thr peoblem is without realizing all of it is the problem. Our fo is the problem for taking half measures and coming up short in talent evaluation. Murphy is the problem for instilling a circle jerk low pressure culture. Our coaching staff is at fault for not putting their players in a position to succeed and generally being uninspiring chicken shits. And yes Rodgers is responsible for his play just as much as the failing system around him . he is not the qb he once was but I don’t believe for a second he’s the bottom of the barrel qb we’ve seen recently…nothing…especially the quarterback position operates in a vacuum I’m sure part of his frustration is coming to terms with not being as amazing, his injury, + the shit roster around him he’d too old to cover for. He shouldn’t have to cover for then anymore…the same way he shouldn’t be acting like a toxic cry baby when things go wrong.
The National media and yours truly has been saying Rodgers is done for weeks now. While Rodgers himself along with his clueless fans are arriving late to the party. It’s hard to defend his pathetic performance in Detroit. First, you have to identify the problem before you can fix it it. If you blame Rodgers then you change QB’s to fix the problem. If you blame the GM, you gut the roster, including QB, to fix the problem. The easiest course of action is to replace the QB. If that doesn’t work then the GM would be next. Either way, Rodgers is gone. It’s imperative then we find out if Love can play and what are our QB options are with a top 5 pick. Rodgers feelings have nothing to do with it.
Bored…check out my new comments down the hall.
I’m doing what i do best down the hall….making friends 😉
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I’ll need some of you to give me some thumbs up…i’m gonna need them….fast lol
Lol, do they put you in a time out or kick you off the site if you get too many thumbs down?
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I mentioned that Gute is the one who signed Rodgers to that $150 million contract and I got some thumbs down. I guess people didn’t like that. One guy even claimed that it wasn’t Gute, the general manager, who signed Rodgers to the biggest contract in the league and claimed that it was all Murphy. I asked for sources and got crickets.
Well…😉
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Lets just say….last time i went in there, i knew that i only had a limited time of a “shelf life”
But i actually last longer than i thought, bout a month or so.
This time i’m losing brain cells at a record pace, they have about 10 times the readers we have here, so you can just imagine the riff raff i have to go through.
Rodgers is the devil over there and because of this season, they are losing there fucking minds…lol
My faith in (some) Packer fans over their have actually increased though…i have more thumbs up than thumbs down. How F’d up is that right?…lol
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But after this afternoon, i think i’ll be close to even when they get their knives out and start carving me up.
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I asked for details on how Rodgers isn’t following MLF’s game plan for the (get rid of Rodgers petition i offered to write up) 😎So i……well wait, i’ll get it for you.
There’s a slight tiny bit of sarcasm built in 😏
I knew it…lol…current thumb count….Up 44…down…41
I’m fading fast…lol
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November 09, 2022 at 04:56 pm
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Yep…it’s just Rodgers ego, i don’t see any other problems. This team could have gone undefeated, except for that damn Rodgers guy.
He won’t follow LeFleurs program, like he did the last 3 years in going 13-3 when Rodgers followed MLF’s game plan.
The ego on him this season!!
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I’m starting to hate Rodgers to the point where it’s an obsession.
He’s destroying the Green Bay Packers all by himself.
Pretty soon all the real estate values will plummet because of him.
Now i’m really feeling like i’m starting to fit in here. 😎
We should start a petition to remove Rodgers before it gets any worse. i’ll write it up, but i need to know how we know what Rodgers isn’t running, what LeFleur wants him to run.
Anyone know the details? Are Rodgers and LeFleur fighting, maybe throwing hands…i need details.
If i write a petition, i have to sound like i know what i’m talking about.
Or they’ll think i’m just some backwoods simple minded hick from a website forum.
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Keep in touch
Only thing I want to know PF4L. Why don’t you use that Avatar over here? Give me something to look at while pondering the wisdom of Tommi’s post’s.
Well Arch….i’ll tell you this…..
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I did in fact, use that avatar in here, but it was removed. Apparently it was too offensive or something.
Someone in here is allowed to discuss the sexuall prowess of other readers Mothers and sisters, but my avatar was somehow out of bounds.
I know…right?
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Paige Van Zant
I’m saying #12 comes out firing bullets on Sunday.
I didn’t watch the game last Sunday, but did watch a 14 min. game recap. I gotta say it again,
Seems like I noticed #26 standing around alot. WTF is he hurt or what?
The question then is, who is he firing bullets to…?
Watson, Toure, Watkins?
Any bets on Winfree being part of the equation and how many drops he will have? Better yet, we could make a game out of the Packers play to date; drink on each drop, drink on each 4th and goal at the 1 where Dillon gets manhandled at the line, drink when an O-lineman drops out/changes position during the game, etc. Whatever consistent thing has happened with the Packers just make up rules that follow, you’ll probably be shitfaced by halftime!
Let’s take a peek at the Smith Bros so far, shall we…..
Preston Smith,,,,(9 games)…13.9 million (2022 earnings)
18 solo tackles
3.5 sacks
5 TFL
9 QB hits
PFF Grade…64.2
*Just a reminder..this is the same Preston Smith who is going to have double digit sacks and make ALL PRO and the Pro Bowl..per Tom M.
(Nailed another one eh Tommi?….lol)
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Za’Darius Smith…(8 games)…10 million (2022 earnings)
22 solo tackles
8.5 sacks
13 TFL
15 QB hits
PFF Grade…83.1
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There ya have it.
Gute wins (COUGH) again?
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It’s hard G D work being right most of the time. It’s tiring 🥱
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Tommi doesn’t have that problem….obviously.