What looked like a comfortable potential Packer win in the first half unraveled in London on Sunday. The Packers took the opening kickoff and drove 49 yards in nine plays. The sweetest completion was a 35 yarder to Randall Cobb over the middle. But the drive would stall when Rodgers missed two passes, one incomplete towards backup tight end Tyler Davis and on third down missing Aaron Jones. Before the field goal there was an inexcusable delay of game penalty on the Packer field goal team. Luckily, Crosby still nailed the longer kick without any drama. The field goal unit is much improved from 2021. That play was the end of the good luck for the Green and Gold in London. Multiple times the Packers seemed to have good defensive plays erased by a penalty. You make your own luck, and the Packers failed to create opportunities into defensive stops and second half points.
After a quick punt on the offenseās second series, Rodgers and company seemed to find a groove as they reeled off three straight scoring drives, adding 17 points before halftime. The Packers led 17-3 during the second quarter, but it was a tale of two halves for Green Bay. The Packers ten point halftime lead eroded into a crushing loss. Aaron Rodgers had two passes batted away inside the ten yard line to douse any real hope of tying the game late. You have to give the Giants credit. Daniel Jones outplayed Aaron Rodgers. Let that sink in, Packer fans. With most of his receivers injured and his star runner out for a critical juncture of the second half, Jones delivered time and again. Jones made the big plays in the second half, both with his arm and with his feet. Rodgers deep throws in the second half, against a patchwork Giant secondary, were mostly short or off target.
The Packer defense spent what seemed like the entire second half on the field. When the defense made a play, they seemed to get called for a penalty that allowed the Giants to stay on the field. The inability to defend crossing patterns continues to plague this defense. Quay Walker had eight tackles to lead the team but a closer look at his stats expose the defensive problems. On Walkers eight tackles the Giants gained 91 yards. The longest was the 41 yard short toss to Saquon Barkley that he failed to diagnose. Barkley ran right past Walker who has not been able to anticipate crossing receivers into his zone. He contributed on one tackle for loss but the other tackles were gains if 10, 11, 6, 11, 8, and 5 yards. In the preseason the Packers boasted that having Walker on the field allowed the defense to play base on passing downs. It is time to rethink that strategy. Add on Darnell Savageās repeated missed tackles and you have a defense that can be attacked in the run game and the pass game.
A critical drive for the Packers ended with a three and out on three straight incompletions. In the fourth quarter the Giants had just completed a long TD drive to tie the score and the Packer defense needed a rest. Rodgers called three straight passing plays. All incomplete. The defense had no rest. The Giants had the Packers on their heels and they executed. The Packers did not.
On the long plane ride home the Packers will need to assess their strengths and weaknesses. On offense, the o-line was hoping that the return of Bakhtiari and Jenkins would solve all their problems. So far, that dream has not materialized. Jenkins is struggling on the right side and Royce Newman is vulnerable on pass protections at right guard. The zone defense has been a weakness that every team they have faced has exploited. And for the first time, Aaron Rodgers looked old. There is no scheme to beat Father Time. His long pass accuracy evaporated in Tottenham Hotspur Stadium.
The Packers face the Jets at home next week. The Jets have two gutty wins against Pittsburgh and Cleveland. They have faced tough opponents in Baltimore and Cincinnati. After this collapse, the Jets will be confident. It is up to Rodgers and company to figure out how to effectively score the ball for 4 quarters. The ship needs to be righted, starting on the long plane ride home.
Aaronā¦ you are old and age is catching up with youā¦ the Packers made a huge mistake in not trading youā¦ you are lucky to be here nowā¦ start earning that money they so graciously gave youā¦ or get out!!!
Yea…GET OUT!!
Oh Tommi š
Couldnāt have said it better myself Bruce. Up by 10 at the half, you take it to pound town in the second half until NY shows you they can stop the run. Instead Erinās playing in Europe for the first time and he wants to make it all about him. Pass, pass, pass because he has to be the hero. Only this time it doesnāt work and heās taking hell for it in the media and rightfully so. Expect of course for all his groupies that post here. Their champion can do no wrongā¦..
You say it better Princess, because you repeat 100 times.
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It sounds to me that you don’t think MLF has any control over Rodgers. So where is the critique of MLF for letting Rodgers walk all over him?
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Are you saying MLF is weak? Are you questioning his manhood?
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Tommi…maybe you should be the head coach of the Packers, and right this ship…what say you?
You seem to know all the workings of the Packers and what’s wrong with them, almost as if you were there everyday.
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Is Gute weak for letting Rodgers get away with this stuff?
Should Gute be fired so you could take over as GM, and then you could find a stronger coach?
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If yes…..Could you find a player in the 3rd round that could actually be a starter? How about just an effective back up. Do you have that skill?
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Are you strong enough to keep Rodgers in line? Are you strong enough to start Love and bench Rodgers?
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Are Murphy and Gute boneheads for resigning Rodgers, knowing he’s an outlaw rebel and won’t work MLF’s system, as you profess?
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Tommi, i could see you turning around this team if you were named the new General Manager by week 10. A team worthy of the Super Bowl under your superior guidance.
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I have to say Tommi….i’m damn tempted to start an online petition to run the Green Bay Packers. You could sign it along with Rebel, Deep, Kato…..
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Then i’ll send it to the BOD’s and the Executive Committee with those 4 signatures and then maybe, most likely….we could see this team get strong and turn this thing around under your expert leadership and guidance.
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I’ll wait for your go ahead. But don’t delay.
Packer Nation needs you now!!
Maybe there is too much leeway given to Aaron to call his own plays. At times, you dont even see a call being radioed in. In the 4th Quarter there was a time where they showed Lafleur on camera and he looked puzzled when Aaron hurried up to the line with a no huddle. His face essentially was sayin “what the fuck is he calling on this play?”. I believe it may have been on that 3 and out…could be wrong..
Let the coaches coach Aaron…maybe they will call something that might work better than you think.
At times, you just get the vibe that Rodgers thinks he is the smartest person in the stadium and I think that lack of humility is biting him in the ass lately.
Yea Aaron!…..Straighten up son!!
You tell em Monday AM and Bruce!
You’ve been “warned Rodgers!!
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BTW …welcome to totalpackers.com
We welcome the “new” guys.
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Lol…anyway…..
My .02 on the Grady Jarrett sack on Brady that resulted in a roughing the passer flag.
R u F’ing kidding me?
First Brady’s head never even hit the ground, Jarrett’s full weight was not on Brady
I was watching that happen and i instantly was reminded of Mathews getting flagged all the time when the NFL decided they wanted to lay pillows on the ground around the QB when he gets sacked.
They stopped being so ticky tacky on those calls eventually, but are we going there again?
Here is my thought and why they might start calling them again…..
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Recently the NFL and NFLPA met to discuss concussion protocol rooted from the Tua incident.
I think (my guess is) they discussed giving the QB more protection. Hence the call we saw on Jarret.
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Back to Rodgers….i don’t think…Rodgers brought a gun into the Packer offices and pointed it at Murphy and Gute and demanded that they give him a new deal guaranteeing him 150 million.
(I could be wrong, i wasn’t there).
Let’s assume he didn’t put a pistol to their heads…..
Are Murphy and Gute two grown men getting paid millions to make football operation decisions?
Does Gute get paid millions to field a competitive roster?
Why do i bring these true facts up?
Because they are the decision makers, and yes, the decisions they make have a direct result of the product you see on the field.
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Yes, Gute has been improving the defense, with the jury out on Wyatt, and possibly Walker.
But at what expense….is the offense stronger, weaker, or the same this season?
Pretty simple question right?
Even Tommi might have the correct answer to that.
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Which reminds me to bring up Sammy Watkins…he injured his hamstring, then Gute sent him directly to IR.
Thinking out loud…how many players get put on IR for a hamstring, especially a veteran receiver you’re counting on….i’ll admit…i don’t get it, what am i missing here?
I think Watkins had an injured/strained hamstring early in training camp? My guess is the Packers didnāt think it was healing properly and wanted to give the strain/pull four weeks to recover. I believe LaFleur said he felt bad about the injury as if he caused the recent hamstring issue by pushing to hard. That brings up my bigger concern about this team.
The team appears to want the season to be over and just go straight to the playoffs. Many of the moves about resting players, pulling for injuries, play count rotations, veteran rest days, appear to be so the team can be healthy, rested, and more experienced for a playoff run. I think I see that mindset in the way games play out. Just do enough to get a lead, drain the clock and (hopefully) win the game. To me that is a very flawed mindset and can lose you games that are needed to get to the playoffs.
Rodgers has always thought heās the smartest guy in the room. When you surround yourself with football players and date internet witches, you set the bar rather low in terms of IQ. But this internal struggle on calling plays between HC and QB predates MLF. If you recall, Big Mike always wanted to run the football as well. Aaron Rodgers would have none of it. Thereās an article out this week that stats TJ Lang told Rodgers to ārun the fucking ballā when we had Eddie Lacey in his prime but Rodgers changed the play in order to pad his stats. What weāre seeing now is Rodgers can no longer deliver. Not even for his pretty stats.
Speaking of open crossing routes, I recall Stokes trailing behind open receivers several times in this game. I know Stokes played well last year at LCB in place of Alexander. It is possible that the Packers were trying to protect Alexander this game because of the groin? If your not going to match your best cover corner with the best receiver you put your best cover corner at the LCB as many offenses tend to favor the right side in the passing game.
I doubt Alexander lost his LCB job to Stokes? I think the Packers need to put Alexander back at LCB for the most part. I would then put Rasul as the RCB. If Stokes canāt handle the nickel corner then I put in Nixon as the nickel. To me Stokes can cover deep, but he has shown very little as a ball hawk or quick twitch cutting ability. If it wasnāt known before this game then Stokes cutting quickness, or lack thereof is now on film. Stokes rounds his cuts almost like Randall did. The crossing receivers picked up a step on the cuts against Stokes in this game.
I would also look at having Rudy Ford spend more time on defense in place of Savage and Walker in certain situations.
Below, i posted this elsewhere on a Packer site with a pulse…..Commenting on how can the Packers fix the offense. There were very good thoughts on the O line as well, the consensus being they aren’t playing well, with idea’s like…. shifting Jenkins back to left guard, Runyan to right guard, and Yosh to right tackle.
I agree, but i’m just wondering if they want to keep Yosh around to spell for Bahk. not sure if that’s real, but my mind wondered there.
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When Cook and Jordy were shown the door, that was the beginning of the end for pass catchers on this team.
Bennett – Fail
Graham-Fail
Funchess-Fail
J’mon Moore – Fail
St. Brown -fail
MVS – Occasional flashes
Amari Rodgers -Fail
Sternerger – Fail
Dequara – Fail
J. Love vs a 1st round wr – Fail
Watson – Something is definitely wrong there. Plus, he was a project to begin with. He might not have the tools to compete in the NFL
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Doubs – Flashes some potential talent….FINALLY
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Maybe instead of how to fix the passing offense….
We look at how we got here and who was in charge of building the roster.
Just a thought.
One more post…..
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Good points above…..but is it all just Rodgers and MLF?
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Now consider all of Gutes failed attempts at wr and tight ends. Everyone and their sisters know that those positions were drained empty due to bad acquisitions and failed 3rd round draft picks. Not to mention we skipped a receiver rich 1st round draft in 2020 to draft a back up QB to sit on the bench for years
Then we have to rely on a rookie draft class for receivers?? Not a sign of a Championship team is it?
I’ve never seen a Championship team relying on a rookie draft class. But that seems to be what we were doing the last 3 seasons.
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I don’t care who your QB is….1st round receivers need time to develop into impact players, Jordy and Davante took 2 years.
Yes it happens once in awhile where a rookie receiver has an impact, but there aren’t many Justin Jefferson’s in the world.
It’s a pity Gute didn’t trade up for him .
Why would a team give their QB 150 million guaranteed….after depleting their pass catching talent?
Makes absolutely no sense.
If this is the way they wanted it to go, they should have traded Rodgers to the 49ers back in 2020 and reaped all the draft resources they could have got.
Because lets be honest, this team is in no danger of going to the Super Bowl.
Well PF4L my thoughts on the dead site are 2 fold:
1- We need more content. The owner of the site should bring back Andy and Shawn and pay them to contribute like they used to.
2- You and Tommy constantly fighting over Arodge has soured the readers and made many people leave.
As for Gute, im really sick of hearing about our WR’s. We had the best WR in football up until this year along with one of the best RB’s and its certainly not Gutes fault our #1 TE who was just starting to blossom got hurt last year.
And of course what continues to need repeating: our offense was a league leader for years with the people we had. It was out Defense that needed those high draft picks.
Now at this point im willing to concede picking Love was likely a mistake. But other than that im not sure what everyone is carrying on about.
YES…all the high draft picks the defense got, over a dozen of them, over a decades time, except for the 1st round offense pick of Jordan Love, who looks lovely over on the sideline through the years.
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You have Aaron Rodgers signed to a new, very high dollar contract, and we have sparse pass catching talent, and you don’t see what everyone is carrying on about concerning the offense? Hmmm….
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Here are my thoughts about the “dead” website Rebel…..i’m guessing my description might be a tad more accurate.
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1) For a couple years this site has suffered through the fact you constantly had to write in your user name and e-mail on every post you submitted (the auto fill didn’t work). Next….you could not directly “reply” to someone’s post, it would default your reply to the bottom of the page. Next…..You could spend 20 minutes, writing a post, spending time writing your thoughts down. Then submitting it, only to then lose it when it doesn’t show up, and you just wasted 20 minutes of your life….plus getting pissed off. Next….Then we got the “Nonce verification failure” notice. That’s when JP said to himself, i better fix this shit.
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2) Yea…Tommi and i go after each other….who gives a fuck….loosen up your anus and just laugh it off… When you have only 2-4 articles a month during the off season, at least it’s content, something to read. In fact. they may not admit it, but i’m pretty sure some readers like reading our back and both schtick.
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So in totality….which issues had more to do with people leaving…the problems above in #1)?
Or PF4L fucking with a viking fan?
C’MON MAN
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Oh and im willing to concede another issue: I dont understand either why we paid Arodge all that money if we had no intention of getting him a top tier veteran WR. Should have got the draftr capitol when we could.
Only thing I can figure is they thought our Defense was going to be a league leader. So far they havent even looked close.
I think what everyone is carrying on about is the lack of direction this front office has. If you feel like trading Rodgers for draft capital was the right move, cool. If you feel like keeping Rodgers and getting him some talent was the right move, cool. Murph and Gute have decided to go half assed down both paths and we’re seeing the results in a team full of holes playing under coaches with poorly fitting schemes.
I agree. As nice as it is to retain Rodgers, it doesn’t make sense at the high cost. He’s getting $50 million a year and all he can do is check down passes and screens. Jordan Love could do that for a lot less money. But I wonder if the Packers know that they weren’t going to be good this year and did it anyway. I don’t think they want the risk. So they said ok let’s re-sign Rodgers and hope for the best. This franchise isn’t the best at making decisions. And they can’t seem to make all the right decisions at the same time like how the special teams is better this year but now the offense and defense is a mess. They decided that they were going to hire a great special teams coach after years of terrible special teams. But that could’ve been done years ago. LaFleur wanted to hire his own coaches but Murphy wouldn’t let him. Maybe things would’ve been different if the Packers had someone like Bisaccia the last few years. They’re making the same mistakes on defense. LaFleur didn’t want Pettine but Murphy wanted him for some reason. Then they hire Joe Barry who was never a good coach. It feels like this organization is making moves too late.
There was hope after the 2019 offseason when all the moves made sense. There was direction to improve the defense with Preston Smith, Zadarious, and Amos signed as free agents, and Gary and Savage drafted. But then in 2020 it was a step back. They draft Love, Dillon, and Degaura. Dillon is the only player that makes sense and he actually plays. Love was always going to sit on the bench unless Rodgers got hurt. Unfortunately, Deguara was hurt early in 2020, but after coming back in 2021 his role is uncertain. He catches about two passes a game and didn’t do anything even after Tonyan got hurt. What was his purpose? I don’t think we’ve seen enough of him to know. Now they re-signed Rodgers so Love is probably done. Gutenkunst could’ve drafted a receiver who would’ve been ready to go now that Adams is gone.
This…..
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“Gutenkunst couldāve drafted a receiver (or 3 of them since 2018) who wouldāve been ready to go now that Adams is gone.
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Receivers…
But hey, We got Jordan Love, had Z Smith play for 2 seasons at 51 million. Then pass catchers Amari Rodgers, Dequara, Sternberger, Funchess, J’Mon, MVS, St. Brown, Watson, Watkins, etc…. and maybe Doubs can get back on track and catch 5-8 balls this Sunday.
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OOPS…Scratch Watson, he’s out.
I’m sure we can find somebody to take his 5 snaps this Sunday, no sweat Gute…keep up the good work.
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We’re not really sure what Dequara’s purpose was/is. But he is a proud member of the “3rd Round Club”
Luckily for the Packers is that he will be ready to go this Sunday.
Which is good because we don’t want to miss out on his .8 catches a game.
I’m not sure how anyone thought this would be a top five defense. Yes, they drafted two questionable first round picks for the defense and Jaire is back. So what. It sure appears the defensive scheme and DC have more to do with the bad defense than the players. Not sure how you hire Barry and expect to have a top defense. His previous goes at DC should have given the brain trust a hint. I couldn’t believe it when they hired him.
I think everyone thought the offense was going to be taking a step backwards this year. Well, everyone except Gute and Murphy. It can’t be repeated enough, you don’t pay a QB $50 million a year and surround him with the receiver room the Packers have.
There were some people who weren’t convinced that the Packers would have a great defense. I can’t remember the writer but the training camp articles on the Packers on ESPN wrote about this. They weren’t about the Packers defense in training camp but rather about how they performed last year and how much we could expect their improvement. Basically, what happened last year is the Packers had one of the worst defenses in the NFL over the last 7 games of the season. I’m trying to remember the stats, but some of them were being tied for most td passes given up, 26th in rushing defense, and some others that weren’t good. But the defense played great in the 49ers game and they had two first round picks on defensive players, so there was a lot of hype. Also, Alexander was coming back too so it seemed reasonable to expect improvement. But what we’re seeing now is the same defense almost. They’re good sometimes. But they’re not top 10 and probably won’t be all year. Wyatt is a no show out there. Walker has made some plays and forced some fumbles but hasn’t seemed like a great player. I was low and then high on Joe Barry because I thought the defense was good last year, until I read some of those articles that showed their actual stats, and then I thought about some of those games where they got beaten badly like against the Vikings when Jefferson had a career day, and then did the same this year in week 1. I’m back to not being impressed with Barry. His hiring by LaFleur felt very lazy once I had learned that he was the old defensive coordinator for the Rams when LaFleur was coaching there. So to me it looks like LaFleur went with someone he was comfortable with. Was he really their best choice back then? I remember there were rumors that the Packers were trying to get Jim Leonard from Wisconsin to be the coordinator and he didn’t want to do it. Did the Packers try for someone else or were there better options? I just realized now that they could’ve contacted any coach in the NFL to interview, so I don’t know why Barry was the guy.
For your other point about Rodgers, the decisions by management make no sense. It turns out that you most likely need at least one good receiver to have a decent offense. The Packers had that for the last few seasons and filled the rest of the receiver group with guys that helped just enough. But now with Adams and Scantling gone they had to start over. For as good as Rodgers is, there really isn’t anyone good to throw to. Lazard has always been a role player on this offense. I don’t mean that as a slight too. But he and Scantling both had chances to become the number two and neither ever did. Instead they each had their roles that they stuck with. So I was never hopeful that he was going to have his big year. He’s always been a 500 yard guy and that isn’t looking to change this year when there is no one else. So the Packers give Aaron Rodgers all this money just to struggle on offense. I don’t see what the plan is. Maybe some of it was due to salary cap. Since you have to have a qb anyway, just give him whatever and hope it works out. And then you can also push money back to save space. But overall it’s just looking like a bad move.
Both Arch and Joefan….
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Spot on. It’s enjoyable to read your post, especially when their well thought out and along the same lines as other Packer fans who utilize critical thinking.
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Joe, you explained the fans perception of the defense and the initial players drafted perfectly to illustrate the reality of what it was. Fans react WAY too soon right after the draft to speculate how great those picks are going to look on the field. Optimism…i get it.
But for some of the older long time NFL fans, most of them want to SEE it on the field first, before crowning the rookie draft picks. Wisdom.
I think we have to give the 1st round, and 2nd round picks a bit more time, but hot damn….they are not off to a very good start.
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Someone (maybe one of you) wrote where they thought the Packers were treating Rodgers and Love and the offense as “half assed” since drafting Love.
To me, that pretty much explains it.
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Kind of like the drafts from rounds 3-7…i mean fuck….you’d think someone throwing darts blindfolded at a war room draft board would have had better luck right.
Davante’s Adams (version) š
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“I want to apologize to the guy, there was some guy running off the field, and he ran, like jumped in front of me coming off the field and I bumped into him, kind of pushed him, and he ended up on the ground,….”
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“I bumped into him”……Say what, lol…?
“…kind of pushed him”……Kind of?
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You “kinda” getting fined by the NFL son.
“I think he ended up on the ground”
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How do you “think” he fell to the ground? I know you’re mad because you lost but to shove a camera man to the ground and pretend like you didn’t see him fall? C’mon man…
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At the same time…
“”[The victim] made arrangements for private transport to the hospital for treatment at which time he called police,” the incident report said. “The injuries are preliminarily thought to be non-life threatening.”
“Kansas City police said the incident will be investigated by its assault unit detectives and the investigation is not expected to last more than 1-2 days.”
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Privately transported to the hospital? Preliminarily thought to be non-life threatening? Assault unit detectives? Investigation is not expected to last more than 1-2 days? LOL. I just watched the video twice. That’s about all the investigating you need. Davante was in the wrong but it was an in the moment PUSH. What the hell is the world coming to?
“I’ll make ya a deal Davante….$75,000 (plus medical and cab ride to the hospital)….and this all goes away ” š – Victim
“Las Vegas Raiders receiver Davante Adams was charged with misdemeanor assault in Kansas City (Missouri) Municipal Court on Wednesday. The citation states that Adams “did, by an intentional, overt act, inflict bodily injury or cause an unlawful offensive contact” upon the worker, pushing him to the ground using two hands and “causing whiplash and head ache” and a possible concussion.”
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Don’t get me wrong, what Davante did was stupid and to pretend like he all of a sudden cared about this guy once he got to the locker room is just Adams coving for himself. On the other end, “whiplash, headache, and a possible concussion?” This camera guy is a bigger milkman than Farmer Brown. I guess they decided there wasn’t any life threatening injuries??? LOL. Aaron Donald can strike another player in the head with a spare helmet but don’t dare knock over a camera boy. I’ll call him boy because anyone who makes a lawsuit out of this is not a man.
Agree 100%.
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What didn’t help Adams, was after he shoved him down on the ground, he stood there 2,3 seconds, like he was admiring his work.
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Not sure why the NFL hasn’t acted yet. I don’t see a lot of gray area in any of this.
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The only gray area i see is twofold…..
Adams doesn’t have any history of this, BUT….it’s so blatant, they have to send a message that this kind of act won’t be tolerated.
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I think he may get a game suspension, maybe 2.
Again, I’m just surprised it hasn’t come down yet.
Low impulse control. Even veterans can catch a case of it from time to time.
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But geez Davante, who helped you think up that lame excuse? Did that White House Cabbage Patch doll help out?
And….We got a winner!!!!!!!!
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Yea Packtat!…..There was a new Upper Management Green Bay Packer strategy in place in the fall of 2019, through April 2020.
They were going in a new direction with Love….there was no doubt.
Gute (Murphy) clearly decided they were going in a different direction than staying with Rodgers in ealy 2020.
The 1st pick of the 2020 draft was NOT to help the current team…OH NO!…As Gute said when questioned about the pick…”We did what was in the best interest concerning the future of the Green Bay Packers”
Or as i said after the 2020 draft, he gave up on the current team (at the time)
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So….what happened…..2 things….
Rodgers won the MVP…while the Packers got a good look at Jordan Love….or as MLF used to say repeatedly…”He has a ways to go”.
So i read between the lines and feel like the Packers weren’t that impressed with Love.
So they reverted back to sticking with Rodgers. The new revised plan was to keep the core of the team together as long as they could by pushing money down the road for 2 years.
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So did upper management back track from their 2020 plans?…you bet your ass they did.
Gute and Murphy might have liked their plans to part from Rodgers on paper, but in reality, it wasn’t going to fly.
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Gute continued to stick with the original plan back in 2020….by wanting a roster with a strong defense and run game. But…at the price of the offense.
But in the process, and being previously consumed by the plans to part ways with Rodgers, Gute 1) neglected the Packer offense and/or…2) failed in his attempts to fill the void by either doing nothing, or signing cheap, weak free agents, plus the failures of drafting tight ends and wide receivers in the 3rd round.
Both were failures, i don’t think anyone is denying that.
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So we have that, and we also have line issues not helping the cause
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Then we entered the season with what we had…
a HOF QB, a very good versatile back, a fairly good compliment who dances too much and doesn’t show much power that he’s clouted for. Plus has a poor yards after contact for someone with huge quads.
He needs to hit a hole (don’t stutter step) with purpose, he needs to watch Aaron Jones film.
I think the Packers should be lucky to be 3-2.
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So…the short version……They(Packers) had a new plan……that didn’t work out, tried self correcting it, that didn’t work out either (so far).
And here we are.
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Worded poorly maybe because i wrote this in pieces over the last 3 hours.
I’ll repeat what i previously have said. We strengthened the team on defense, while weakening the team on offense.
It’s pretty simple, a lot simpler than i wrote….lol
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Your absolutely right Paul, Daniel Jones outplayed Aaron Rodgers and it wasnāt even close. While all the fan boys want to blame everyone else and comb thru every draft pick. It comes back to Rodgers. Heās arrogant, egotistical, and refuses coaching except when it suits him. Thereās absolutely no accountability. Matt LaFleur is taking responsibility for play calling but weāve been down this road too many times before with Rodgers. He changes far too many plays in order to pad his stats. And for you ladies, stop bitching about the website. If you donāt like it here go start your own website where no one questions your hero. And you can post all the content you want.
A huge issue is Barry’s D scheme. Got called out by Jaire after the humiliation by the Queens in wk 1 and he was right. Nothing has changed and there are absolutely zero in game adjustments either. Stokes and Savage especially look lost every game. Gary and sometimes Smith & Campbell have saved Barry from being an absolute failure, which is what he is and always will be (0-16 Lions baby). They are loaded with talent, just not the right coach. Also, Royce Newman should not even be starting on a D3 college team, much less the Packers.
Whoa, whoa, whoa…..
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You don’t see Newman as a 10 year starter?
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What say you Tommi?
Ok Tommi..thanks for your usual reply.
Exactly as expected.
Only thing I miss from the old site are the Mccarthy Gravy head hate articles. The bufoon…gravy head…the comments sections were pure gold. The biggest difference in this site from then to now is it is more “serious” of a packers site as opposed to Monte’s hate boner blog.
Yea Stigg…Monty was pretty involved in the site. Remember Mordecai? I used to think he was a tool. but looking back, he offered some color to the site.
We (myself) would get on some of those writers like Mordecai pretty good, looking back, they were good sports.
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Tommi, you remember….this was a while back before you changed your username to pretend you’re a Packer fan.
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SKOL!!
I may be wrong, but I think that Monty may have had at least one alias (Mordecai Jones) so he could post some trashy things without it having to be attached to his own name. I know Monty liked his music and that name is a reference to an old rock album. It’s been a long time since I’ve read any of those articles but I remember feeling like thier writing styles were kind of similar. That, and in Monty’s farewell article he thanks all the longtime contrubutors of the site except Mordecai is strangely missing…
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Who knows. Maybe I’m wrong and Mordecai is an entirely different person. He’d probably laugh at how silly this sounds. Just a theory I had floating around in my head.
It’s funny you say that.
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The same thought crossed my mind a few times back then concerning Mordecai and Monty.
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But even more so….Article writers usually don’t reply back in kind to readers….i always felt that some writers had other usernames to channel their thoughts as an outlet instead of under their normal username.
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I would guess that happens more than we think.
I think we’re sadly past the superbowl window. 2020 and 2021 were the years to win it and the Packers are slowly getting worse. But these things take time and having Rodgers does make it harder to see because he’ll still win games. But after 2020 and 2021 important players have been lost. Gone are Linsley, Adams (Because he was traded and didn’t want to be on the team anymore), Scantling, Turner, Zadarious Smith, and some other role players.
The Packers also made some gains like signing Douglas and Campbell, but I’m not sure it’s enough especially with Adams gone the Packers have no offense. They also aren’t getting production from their two highest paid players with Rodgers and Bahktiari. Rodgers is in a weird spot. Some of it isn’t really his fault because there’s no one good to throw to. At the same time, he could do better if they keep the offense simple. I’m not sure if that’s on LaFleur or Rodgers. But at the organizational level, the Packers paid heavily for Rodgers without having a good support group. Bahktiari is hurt of course, but that doesn’t change that he hasn’t played. He still isn’t back to being a starter and had to miss series in the Giants game.
Otherwise the Packers are in a weird spot. They have one of the worst salary cap situations but with nothing to show for it. And next year it will probably get worse. Jones salary cap hit is huge. They might also look at releasing Bahktiari since his dead money will be much less in 2023. As hard as it is this year, it will be even worse if Jones is gone. Basically, the Packers don’t have a core anymore like they did for 2019-2021, and they’re losing players fast. It seems like they should be in rebuild mode yet they chose compete mode even though they’re not good enough for a superbowl.
Yea Joe……
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That is why the smart money would’ve traded Rodgers for draft assets back in 2020.
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Everyone was all hyped up in the off season over the picks of Walker, Wyatt, and Watson, and how that would translate into improving the defense this season and Watson contributing on offense.
Things don’t always work out as dreamed up in our heads.
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Yea…i repeat this every off season……
This is why teams who have to rely on the draft for instant help on the field…rarely prosper.
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If a player gives you production on the field his rookie season, it’s a bonus.
It’s fools gold to rely on a rookie draft class for production
Rodgers was way off in his passing. The receivers weren’t running routes that required the passes to be timed exactly, they were simple routes that Rodgers should have dropped right into the hands of the receivers. Rodgers shouldn’t be changing the call to passes so he can play hero ball when he can’t hit his open receivers.
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As for the defense, teams have figured out that Stokes, while fast, can’t cover route changes and Quay Walker doesn’t have enough recognition to cover short passes. I blame Joe Barry for not putting his players in positions to win.
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I honestly don’t know if this is going to get fixed any time soon and the team is on the verge of falling apart.