In 2018, in Josh Allen’s rookie season, he started his 4th game as a pro at Lambeau Field. It was not pretty for Allen or Buffalo. Aaron Rodgers had an off night with an interception and a 76.9 rating, but it was much worse for Allen. Seven sacks, two interceptions, a 36.3 rating, a total of 151 yards on 33 attempts. The rookie looked lost. The 22-0 final score, humbling. Sunday’s game in Buffalo was redemption for Allen and this year’s AFC leading Bills. Buffalo took a huge lead into halftime and held on to win.
The Packer defense started the game on fire. Jaire Alexander made two great plays to force two incompletions by Josh Allen, both intended for Stephon Diggs. Alexander and Diggs would battle with their mouths and play all game. After the Bills punt, the Packer offense got the ball. A first down run gained a yard. The second run gained 7. Those two plays were followed by what last week would have been described as a tiny miracle; the Packers got a first down pass completion on third down.
Last game’s monkey was off their back. The Packers then did a quick swing pass to Aaron Jones for another first down. But the magic quickly faded when rookie Packer 4th round compensatory pick Zach Tom, starting at left guard for the first time, missed his assignment and allowed Tim Settle a free shot at Aaron Rodgers. Next, Christian Watson went down with a concussion. On fourth down, Tom again allowed pressure and Rodgers threw the ball… to no one.
The Bills then surgically sliced the Packer defense into shreds. The specifics do not need to be repeated. The score at half: 24-7. The Packers highlight of the first half was Romeo Doubs’ fantastic catch of a long corner end zone pass from Rodgers. Doubs announced he is back, shrugging off the bad game last week by making multiple splash catches. In all Doubs caught four balls for 62 yards. The offense seemed to score a touchdown coming out of the third quarter, but an offensive pass interference call wiped it off the board.
The Packers were able to add three points on a 38 yard Crosby field goal. The defense opened the third quarter without starting linebacker De’Vondre Campbell due to injury and Quay Walker, who was ejected after an idiotic push of a Bills’ player on the sideline. Even down two starters, the Packers held the Bills to a field goal on their first third quarter drive. Sadly, that felt like a great victory after the first half. Score: 27-10. But the defense came to play in the second half and battled through the third and fourth quarter. While the Bills piled up yardage, the defense forced two turnovers, both interceptions of Allen.
While Allen gave the Packers opportunities, the offense showed flashes but could not complete the comeback. The final back breaking sequence for the Packers, who were matching the aggression of Buffalo in the second half, was back-to-back interceptions. The first, a Packer defensive turnover by Raul Douglass. That was quickly followed by a tipped pass from Rodgers being intercepted by Buffalo. To the defense’s credit Jaire Alexander made a diving interception on the five yard line to ward off another Bills score.
Then it was the offense’s turn and they marched down the field, scoring a touchdown on a nice drive capped off by 7th round draft pick Samori Toure on a long catch of a nice deep pass from Rodgers. That made the score 27-17 but the offense did not get the ball back until there was 2:34 on the clock. While Rodgers got the offense moving with three straight completions, then a nice sideline deep shot to Amari Rodgers, the offense stalled and the Packers opted for a 54 yard field goal attempt by Mason Crosby that weakly wobbled left of the goal post. The optimist will be thankful the Packers found some fight in the second half and made Buffalo work for their victory. The offense consistently ran the ball against Buffalo.
The young pass catchers, Doubs and Toure showed some promise. Luckily, Green Bay seemed to escape a serious injury to A.J. Dillon after an awkward twisted fall when he was tackled by fellow B.C. alum Matt Milano. For those looking for company in their misery, the Raiders lost 24-0 to the Saints and Davante Adams had one catch for -1 yards. But the Packers are now 3-5, four games in the loss column behind Minnesota. Detroit is next up, and the season is in the balance.
It’s amazing…after 3 decades, we are now reduced to resembling Bear fans wondering if we can sneak into a wild card spot to salvage the season after losing 4 games in a row.
It boggles my mind and makes me feel ill to my stomach.
NO….i’m not going to put on the happy face trying to do the math to see if we can somehow participate in the playoffs.
How did we get here?
I’m not so sure why the Packers should/would trade away a player, or draft assett’s for one player.
It’s not like this team is one player away.
Are the Packers bringing back Aaron Jones next season? Do they want to pay him 16 plus million and carry a 20 million cap hit? If not, then if someone offered something of substance, i’d listen, but otherwise…..
Here…Schefter questions why the Packers didn’t acquire a receiver last spring.
I’ve been questioning it since Jordy Nelson was shown the door in 2018.
But hey….we still have Jordan Love…AKA The Future
Anyone have Jimmy Graham’s number?
When you have cancer, you can treat it. But, if you only remove 50% of it, you can’t carry on as if you’re cured.
Unless you’re the Green Bay Packers.
What happens to the other 50% of the cancer?
Just going to live with it?
Hope….it goes away on it’s own?
Here is what 50% of the cancer that hangs around will do to you.
It will make bad strategic plans.
Cause you to spend resources foolishly.
It will cause dereliction of duty by ignoring job responsibility’s concerning the roster.
It will cause you to chase bad decisions, with additional bad decisions.
It will surely put a teams future in doubt.
Kind of like it is right now.
Cancer is like the President of a NFL team, who (legally) puts himself in charge of all football operational decisions, who admittedly…has no prior football operations experience at all.
In time, the cancer will show it’s true colors.
2018: “While interviewing for a new GM, i have found internal silo’s (lack of communication) at Packer headquarters bewteen Dept. Heads.”. – Your Packer President…in charge.
Golly Gee Murphy!!….You’ve been working alongside these people for 11 years, and……you just discovered these silo’s?
You had no clue?
Well, ok…i guess i believe that.
Tear this team down and start over, giving up a player, or draft capital to trade for a receiver is fools gold.
For what?….a sliver of hope to get in the playoffs?
Because it sure as hell isn’t going to cure the rest of the cancer still there.
I know there’s a lot of disdain for Rob Demovsky around here, but this new article brings up a point I touched on earlier in the season when I spoke about Jaire not following Justin Jefferson early this year.
The particular quote I’m talking about is;
“According to sources close to members of the Packers defense, players have grown frustrated with the defensive scheme and play-calling,” ESPN’s Rob Demovsky reported. “One source said there has been ‘a declining confidence in the defensive scheme and what’s being called, and it’s led to overall frustration with the defense.’ Another source confirmed that sentiment.” via https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10054248-packers-rumors-players-growing-frustrated-with-defensive-scheme-and-play-calling
Our game against Buffalo seemed to be of the same mindset for Jaire. I would venture to say he wanted the constant heat and matchups with Diggs and that’s probably the type of shit Diggs was talking on the way out to the field, “Good thing you’re playing your side or you’d get burned” type of shit. This scheme doesn’t seem to fit the talents or personalities that we have in the locker room.
On another note I must have watched Allens scramble and TD pass to his tight end a dozen times now and not only is Savage a liability in tackling as of late but while watching Amos run in to stop the rush he just follows him in instead of breaking for the TE or changing route.
Stokes reportedly has the worst rating for QB’s targetting any CB with over 200 snaps this season allowing 21 catches per 25 targets. Quay Walker may have talent but his skills need polishing and he needs a check between the ears. The game passing him up can’t be shown in ways that hurt the team in yards too. Didn’t we draft someone to pair with Clark on the line? Is Rashan Gary the new Clay Mathews on mobile qb’s with arm tackles and a spinning neck?
On to the offense, I think we had two passes across the line of scrimmage in the first 4 possessions maybe? I’m not upset we didn’t trade for a Claypool or Cooks or any other reciever. At this point in the season they wouldn’t be worth a shit in time to matter anyway. If anything I’d have liked to build more on our line, especially if Toure and Doubs can start improvising and learning to break away from coverage like Rodgers likes.
Would also like to see more of Bob Tonyan. It’s taken us a long time to utilize him this season. Has he lost a step after his injury or do we just not have enough time to get him the ball? In my opinion the fixed up offensive line would have cured or at least masked a lot of our problems more than anything else we could have done.
Please stop with all these fucking screens. They don’t work and everyone knows they’re coming. They’re not an extension of the run like every broadcaster tries to sell us on. They’re passes. Short passes. That get blown up by all the defenders around not being blocked.
The only thing I have to say about special teams is that they seemed to trust ol’ boy Sunday more than they do Amari Rodgers. Sounded a lot more hyped up for him too on the sidelines.
No P4FL, I’m not into moral victories and I’m not excited about a wildcard spot, but my expectations were low going into the season since most of the holes we’re seeing in action were glaring even then. But I know the organization fucked up and there’s nothing to say about it that hasn’t been said already. Even if we sneak in the playoffs it’s doubtful most of us will have any faith that we’ll do anything in them and for most of us anything short of a Super Bowl is a lost season anyway.
I’m just looking for bright spots because I’m going to watch this team every week whether they suck or not and I’d rather try to leave what I know is going to be a frustrating three hours on a note that doesn’t make my family hate me for the rest of the day. Go Pack Go.
I disagree about the receiver, and tired of hearing “We’re not one player away, so why bother.” As you say further down, you’re tired of screens and you want bright spots to watch this year. I do as well, and that could’ve been accomplished with a trade. There was another rumor earlier today that the Packers looked into Jerry jeudy, but they couldn’t meet the asking price of a second round pick plus a fifth rounder. The rumor is somewhat credible since it came from someone who covers the Broncos. If true, it just means that this team’s nature is to never do trades. Jerry Jeudy, Christian Watson, and Romeo Doubbs would’ve been a good solid receiver core. At least one of them has experience. They would likely not be playoff bound with Jeudy, Claypool, or whoever else fans wanted, but that shouldn’t matter. They would have improved the offense and been set up better for next year. Oh and also the games would be more fun to watch.
What we get to watch now is the Packers tank for a high pick that Gutenkunst can trade for other draft picks.
“They would have improved the offense and been set up better for next year.”
Well….The time to think about fixing the receiver room next year, was 2, 3, 4 years ago.
But hey, lets not quivel over logic, common sense and prudent thinking and planning.
Just as your tired of hearing “We’re not one player away, so why bother.”
I’m tired of reading people not making Gute/Murphy accountable.
They build the mother*&&^&^ roster, if it isn’t their fault, someone please tell me whose fault it is.
At what point do we talk about the possibility that Gute/Murphy have sabotaged the WR/TE room to spite Rodgers?
Sounds far fetched right?
Lets consider for a moment, that all us fans, all the talking heads, have been talking about getting receivers for years.
Surely, no one hasn’t forgotten, all the talk about who are #2 receiver was through the years right?.
So with that said…there are three (logical) possibilities i can think of.
A) Gute/Murphy are so fixated on developing the defense and the run offense, that they let the pass catching rooms run dry, and seemingly do so without a care.
B) Gute/Murphy purposely want to send Rodgers some message that THEY are in charge at the detriment of the team.
C) Gute/Murphy are too stupid about running an NFL team to know any better.
* When i say Gute/Murphy….i’m saying i believe that Gute still has to ask permission to blow his nose.
I’ve been patiently waiting since the end of the Seattle NFCCG for this team to rid itself of this cancer and get it’s head out of it’s ass. and frankly, i’m tired of fucking waiting for this shit show to end.
Unrelated, but this is fantastic:
Detroit trades TJ Hockenson to the Vikings. Don’t they know you’re not supposed to trade within the division, let alone the best player on their team? Same old Lions. I guess the Packers don’t have to deal with him this weekend.
This team is cracked in half and 2 feet from sunk. (aka Titanic) Yet Bevis & Butthead in front office cant even add a WR. How many times we gotta hear GB offer was too Low?? Those incompetent idiots couldn’t make a trade at a car dealer. Let ship sink Guttie & fancy gap tooth Murphy
Under the Murph, Thompson, Gute regime the Packers have been good at being good and terrible at being great. Never willing to make the move that would get them over the hump.
need to wrap Watson in bubble wrap during week, dude will get hurt making a piece of toast.
Guttie & Murph go into classic car dealer, they tell salesman we’ll go 650.00 bucks for that Mint 1967 GTO, numbers matching.
Saleman: get the F#$K out of here
Like PF4L would say…. They needed a new sno-cone stand in Titletown Park, January in Green Bay
Hey anyone remember the days when the problem was McCarthy? Had to get rid of him because he was just horrible, wasn’t using Aaron Rodgers to his divine capability. Yet somehow McCarthy’s Cowboys had the #1 offense last season by both yards and points. Odd how they did that when they got rid of their best receiver too. This year the Cowboys are 6-2 and a backup QB started in 5 of those games losing only to the best team in the NFL. But hey, McCarthy was a complete idiot, right? I’m sure when McCarthy comes to town in less than two weeks, Rodgers will show McCarthy his success was only because of Rodgers.
Jeez…calm down Tiger.
There is more to winning than one head coach. McCarthy was stale, and was lost, at the end of his time in Green Bay.
We all saw it.
Championships are won from the top down, not just because of one coach.
When he took a year off (PAID for by Murphy with the secret one year deal) he gathered together, and paid a bunch of assistant coaches to learn how to study and re-analyze the NFL game.
Why would he do that, if he’s so valuable?
Maybe because no teams pursued him after he left the Packers.
McGravy is currently 24 -17 with the Cowboys
MLF is currently 42-15 with Rodgers and the Packers.
I’m not sure what your point is about McCarthy Deep.
Would the Packers would be a Championship team right now with McCarthy?
Would the Packers be 6-2 if McCarthy was coaching the Packers now?
I’m not so sure you’re aware of how close McGravy was to having heavy discussions about his time being up with the Cowboys.
He inherited a team loaded with talent. What does he have to show for it?
The “Boys” got bounced in the wild card round against the 49ers, at home.
Yes, the Cowboys lost Amari Cooper. But they could lose CeeDee Lamb and still have more talent than the Packers.
After the disaster of McCarthy having hired Mike Nolan and Jim Tomsula to the Cowboys. Jerry Jones made McCarthy fire both of them at the end of their first season.
After the Cowboy Defense gave up 29.6 PPG. Holy shit right?
Fast forward to today, where the Cowboy defense gives up only 16.6 PPG
Quite a difference.
That defense is a big reason why the Boys are 6-2, not McCarthy. Hell, McCarthy doesn’t even call the plays.
McCarthy was a train wreck when he got fired from the Packers, mentally, physically, and his home life.
Lets not pretend otherwise.
Mccarthy has done wonders to catch up with the modern game. He was always a great leader until the end.
That being said…he should have been canned after the Seattle game.
Last point…his #1 offense is overseen by kellen moore…the oc he inherited from Jerry Jones. Moore is also the play caller and will be a head coach next year.
McCarthy is an idiot. The Packers main problem is that the Front Office is FKG useless. They draft Poorly, never make trade, never sign Free agent. They never ever go for it. They Ruined the Hillbillys career & now they do it again to Rodgers. Packers always hire an Idiot as HC. Belichik was interested in Job 2000, didn’t even interview him, gave Sherman total control STUPID!!!! 2006 shd have hired Sean Peyton…..NOOO we need McFatso cuz cadaver Thompson like his macho Pittsburgh accent STUPID!!!! Now they hire LaPew, prob cuz they thght he was handsome STUPID?? Don’t even get me started on GMs. Ron Wolf was only good one we had
Mike McCarthy flourishes in Dallas. And that’s with meddling owner/GM Jerry Jones and the limited QB duo of Dak Prescott and Cooper Rush. It’s Big Mike that’s getting the last laugh now. Yes ladies, there is life after Aaron Rodgers and it can be a successful one. Dr Feel Good, I mean Kevin, tells us the Packers have cancer. He miss diagnosed the source. I can guarantee you Rodgers throwing his teammates under the bus is dividing the locker room. He’s got to go. While Mike remains fixated with Sean Peyton. Peyton only won one SB with fellow stat whore Drew Brees. The same number of SB’s as Erin. Erin and Drew are the same QB. Sean Peyton as HC makes no difference. What this team needs more than Chase Claypool is a young, talented, COACHABLE QB that’s going to grow and develop with these young, talented WR’s. I would rather take it on the chin the next two months, secure a top 5 draft pick, and find the next franchise QB. Than continue to chase our tail trying to make 39 yr old Aaron Rodgers happy. Those days have come to an end. As the lovely Lizzo would say, “it’s about damn time!”
As the lovely Lizzo would say, “it’s about damn time i went on a diet, holy shit!”
Now, now Kevin. Big girls need love to. Just ask your mom and your sister….
” It’s Big Mike that’s getting the last laugh now. Yes ladies, there is life after Aaron Rodgers and it can be a successful one.”
And…McCarthy has won what?
What has he won so far Princess?
An NFC East Banner?
A wild card loss?
Father of the Year?
Success? A good start to the season perhaps?
A good play caller and offensive coordinator in Kellen Moore?
Success, when Jerry Jones hired Def. Coordinator Dan Quinn, after the handpicked McCarthy hire of Mike Nolan shit the bed?
A lot of people seem to think that Quinn will be head coach of the Cowboys soon.
Yes, the Boys are off to a successful start, mostly due to the defense.
Funny, i remember your vikings having “success”, starting out at 5-0 and then going 3-8 and missing the playoffs.
How successful was that Gomer?
Again…what has McCarthy won?
Tom M back on crack pipe. where u getting young talented QB???? Took Packers 29 years to get the hillbilly. Gutekunst does soooooo well in Draft. Had 2 1st round picks last year, 1 is average & other one hardly plays. Reading your DRIBBLE is like watching paint dry
Fat Mike is “flourishing” in Dallas because that meddling owner won’t let him run the offense like he did in Green Bay. His job now is to try and pay attention to what is happening on the field during the game instead of what his next play call will be. It might help him to not make stupid calls during the game. The defense is what is helping Dallas win right now. Someone made the right hire for DC. I’d be willing to bet it wasn’t Mike and more than likely that meddling owner. I’m pretty sure Dallas isn’t going to the Super Bowl this year so Mike’s season is going to end just like all but one of his did at Green Bay.
Thats one more Super Bowl than McFatso or Glamour Boy Lafluer when they were hired.
Tom M=Ass Wart
Top 5 pick on QB? OK Tom, hows trever lawrence, baker mayfield, sam darnold, Daniel Jones, Zac Wilson all look to you?????
Mike and Arch need to just curl up in the fetal position and suck each other’s thumbs, or whatever else comes up. They’ve given up on the future. Because trying to pacify a 39 year old diva with a diminishing skill set is clearly the better way to go. What your telling me Mike is during those 29 years college football produced ZERO franchise QB’s? Marino, Elway, Montana, Kelly, as well as many others were never franchise QB’s? Well, you ladies are the experts! The real question Mike is how does Aaron Rodgers look? He looks old and tired and done. Not to mention vastly overpaid. Cooper Rush has outplayed Aaron Rodgers this year. And all for 1/1000th of the salary. Just let that sink in ladies. You can either fear the future or you can embrace it. Either way the future is coming. And that’s a future without Aaron Rodgers. Get your cry on now…..
Tom, You are a complete Idiot how bout QBs Packers drafted, Rich Campbell, Randy Wright, Jerry Taggee, Jim Del Gazio, and thats with them picking high in the Dark ages. Rodgers is a 1 time generational talent you clueless jack-ASS. Go back to taking it in rear on weekends with your fellas.
Tom, what’s your fascination with things being sucked? Not sure I really want to know.
If Jordan Love is actually going to play anytime soon, what kind of offense is he stepping into? What’s the point of ignoring receiver for years and years in Gutenkunst’s plan? Also, is it possible next year that the Packers draft guys who are NFL ready?
Christian Watson wasn’t ready for the NFL, at least his body wasn’t. Walker is already a bad pick considering LLoyd already won defensive player of the month in September. Wyatt has only played 57 snaps. What the hell is this franchise doing?
In Packers land, it’s way too risky trading a draft pick for a receiver like Claypool, but they have have no problem trading up to draft Jordan Love or Christian Watson. Lol!
The Packers aren’t under much risk if Gute trades any picks from the 3rd – 7th round.
History has clearly shown that.
Tom M 4 hours ago
Now, now Kevin. Big girls need love to. Just ask your mom and your sister….
Hmmm….Here’s the problem Goober. I don’t have a sister.
And i wish i could talk to my Mom Tom, but unfortunately that hasn’t been possible for over 3 decades.