It’s been a rough start for the Packers this season and the rest of the way is not going to get any easier — one Packer site described it as a gauntlet. McCarthy is on his way to Green Bay soon to take on a weakened Packers with his Cowboys. Following that is the Titans and Eagles…all while battling off the Vikings in their division.
Rest-of-Season NFL Strength of Schedule based on my current evaluation of each team.
Green = Easier
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— Mike Clay (@MikeClayNFL) October 18, 2022
LaFleur and team have slipped into a three-game losing streak. Meanwhile, the NFC North is being dominated by the 5-1 Vikings who will also face the Bills in a few weeks so an unlikely win for the Pack could help that situation a bit.
Vegas oddsmakers are dumping all over the Packers in this game with a double digit spread. The Bills have the #1 offense in the league with a staggering 41.9 points per drive.
While it was expected that the Packers would have a bit of rough season, given their personnel shortcomings and the realities of salary caps. However, not many could have reasonably predicted that things would be where they are currently.
When: 7:20pm – Central Time
Where: Highmark Stadium
TV: Sunday Night Football on NBC
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Over/Under: 47 points
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Well fuck me Lindsey Thiry…It’s Game Day!!!!
Thanks for the new article JP.
When i say, new article.
i mean, fresh content.
Just to trying to explain to our resident mentally challenged viking fan troll.
Fresh content Tommi…means new topic, new article, new subject of conversation
Can you see the light shining yet?
The reason Tommi, that new content is important, is under one article you get mired down in a rut, , because it tends to get stale, ugly and repeating.
Yes, it’s all your fault.
10 years from now, after Rodgers retires at the end of this season and year after year of losing seasons, starting with a 4-13 season this year, we true Packer fans, the few who will stick around, will wish that the Packers would have traded for Rodgers and kept Adams. This won’t even be the 70s or 80s. This will be the 50s, when the Packers were so bad that the NFL wanted to move the Packers to Milwaukee.
I meant traded Rodgers, of course.
I disagree Deep in so much that I would have preferred they also traded Adams. Simply because if they are going to be starting from scratch let them build from the ground up and getting acclimated to what they have. Remembering back to when Sharpe was in Green Bay and always wanting the ball. If they are gonna blow it up, then blow it up. Adams hasn’t torn it up in Vegas to deserve what they are paying him. Somehow I have the distinct impression him not being fed the ball will make him all the more a malcontent, especially on a losing team.
I think Empac has it right. But the time to blow it up was early 2020. I just posted the following down the hall.
October 31, 2022 at 10:33 pm
Who are we now…the Bears?
Dreaming we can eek into the playoffs as a wild card?
There’s a difference between negativity, and reality.
I’m about the biggest Rodgers fan around.
But back after Love was drafted and the Packers were planning to move forward from Rodgers, i said back then in spring of 2020, that they should have traded him.
Why? Because it would have been in the best interest of the Packers future.
They could have traded him to San Fran for team changing prime draft asset’s AND eliminated their salary cap issues in one fell swoop.
I’m a Packer fan first, and a Rodgers fan 2nd, trading him was the right call at the time.
There are some small glimmers of positivity in this game. They have controlled a lot of clock time and they have run the ball fairly well. That will pay dividends down the road with some other games but this Bills team is just too good. Doubs had a very nice catch for his TD so his development is maybe back on track after some drops in other games. Run defense still stinks but pass defense has been okay.
Injuries will happen and that sucks. Campbell going out with the knee is tough. He’s needed. Watson getting his bell rung. The guy is a butter dish with bad luck to boot. Why a butter dish? Cause he’s made of glass and he’s got butter on his hands. But man, he needs to be out there learning, mistakes or no mistakes he needs to see the field and get the reps.
Quay Walker. Just what the hell is going on between those ears? Stupid. Just plain low impulse control stupid. Your team needs you to play, to be on the field and develop and contribute, and you decided to leave your brain on the bench in a different helmet. You showed them I guess.
Walker scored a 9 on the 50-question Wonderlic test, while Wyatt had an 8. The NFL average is 19, meaning the Packers’ two first round picks didn’t hit that number even when their score was combined. “That’s a big deal.Apr 30, 2022
We may lose this game but in my opinion this is one of the better performances I’ve seen from the group this year. Rodgers looked more on target and focused, we’ve got some guys running deep routes and we’re pushing the ball down field or at least trying more. At least tonight makes me feel like there might be something to build off of with Toure coming up big here in the 4th after dropping his first chance and Doubs making plays. But is it too little, too late to salvage the season?
Some will say the Bills let off the gas. I don’t think so. The Bills were going to rub it in. I agree this game had some positives that the Packers can build on. There are still some big negatives, but I liked the fight for a change. It just needs to happen all game.
With only five losses it is not to late to salvage the season.
I think we need to define “salvage”?
I’m not exactly sure what we can salvage out of it, maybe a wildcard possibility.
Or what i would call…a participation ribbon.
Not to be a downer but…where is this team going this season.
I think Collinsworth pretty much nailed it describing the present day Packers.
I’m not sure what happened to Buffalo in the 2nd half either, but Allen was waaay off on a lot of his passes.
You only have one team in each conference getting a bye in the playoffs. That means 12 of the 14 playoff teams are wildcard teams, or as you would call it playing for a participation ribbon? I think 12 NFL teams would disagree with your assessment of what being a wildcard team means. Until the Packers are eliminated from entering the contest for a participation ribbon I will stay positive, although there are several negative parts of the team that need corrected. You can stay negative. I have seen stranger things happen in the NFL.
The Bills were going to rub salt into the wounds of the Packers during the second half.
I’m a realist, it has nothing to do with being negative. I saw some good things last night, like the run game output, the 50/50 run/pass split.
I even saw a glimpse of vintage Rodgers running around making things happen on that Toure TD drive.
That Doubs TD catch was incredible.
The run game was legend as far as the Packers are concerned, i can’t remember the last time the Packers rushed for 200 yards.
I liked seeing some spirit and fight in some players, for once.
The flip side, the O line had their issues again, especially Zach Tom.
Bakh gave up a sack but it was nullified by a Buffalo penalty.
The dink and dunk game was in full swing until they were forced to pass, citing the game clock.
I think Rodgers had something like 69 yards passing sometime later in the 3rd quarter.
At the end of the day, i’m not going to act like this loss was some moral victory.
Yes, the team had some flash plays…that’s great.
This team is 3-5 with serious pass catching and O-line issues, whether i’m perceived positive or negative, doesn’t change that fact whatsoever.
In reality…the Packers would have to go 6-3 just to finish at 9-8.
If anyone wants to keep the faith and carry the G, hoping for a cinderella story.
God bless you.
I never heard the playoffs described as having 12 wildcard teams.
I’ve heard of Conference Winners, then Division winners, then wild card teams…but sure, ok
BRING ON THE LIONS!!
I’m also a realist. As I wrote, until the Packers are eliminated from a chance to get a participation ribbon, reality says their still in it.
I seem to remember a 49ers team last year that lost four games in a row and was 3-5. It took that team until the final 26 seconds of their last regular season game to put the game into OT for an OT win against the Rams. Without the win the 49ers would not have made the participation ribbon circuit.
I also remember a Packers team that barely made the playoffs in 2010. It took the fourth tie breaker to get them into the participation ribbon circuit as a 7 seed. I had several Packer fans tell me during the 2010 season it was over and the Packers would go no where in the ribbon circuit. I thought the Packers matched up well against the NFC teams and said so. I heard about not being a realist, keeping the faith, carry the G, and hoping for a Cinderella story. All the derogatory terms like you just used.
I know the Packers don’t look good so far and they have problems that are more concerning than the 2010 Packers or the 2021 49ers. I know what good football looks like as I have been a Packer and NFL fan well before “Since 75”.
The NFL calls it Super Wildcard Weekend for a reason and 12 teams play during that weekend. God bless you also.
Carrying the G is a term used down the hall, and had no reference to you whatsoever.
Defining derogatory is a perception, Perceptions are sometimes known to be wrong.
Like, with how you look at my perception of the current Packer team. You think it’s wrong. I think my perception is, what it is. And as everything i wrote in here the last 11 years, i’ve stood by.
Most of the stuff i write is written with a dry humor grin.
I mentioned the last 4 years (before the season, including this one) how we didn’t have a Championship caliber team, or a SB caliber team as some proclaimed. I’m not right all the time.
But i’m right enough to stand by my opinions, whether perceived as derogatory or not. On occasion when i’m wrong, i’ve acknowledged it.
I smiled wide when you mentioned the 2010 Packers. But there are large difference’s when looking at it in the big picture, or an overview as some may call it.
The 2010 Packer scoring defense was #2 in the league at 15.0 PPG (Which to knowledgable Packer fans like yourself would be considered elite) No offence Tommi.
The 2010 Packers also had players like….Jennings, Jordy, Jones, Driver, Finley.
The current #1 receiver of the 2022 Packers is Lazard followed by a……rookie.
Not to mention legends on defense, and i include, Woodson, Mathews, and Nick Collins in that mix. Not to mention other defensive playmakers who could change the pulse of a game
The other difference between the two teams is this……one of these teams actually made it into the playoffs, it’s hard to draw parallels this early if one team looks to be a long shot at this point. A Cinderella story….if i may.
You are one of a very small handful who i have full respect for in here. I never had malicious intent to show otherwise. but at the same time, i understand, how things can be perceived when reading from black and white text.
I now can recall a couple instances where Cheese could have taken my words wrong. He just never brought it up so maybe he took them in a different light.
Nevertheless…. My apologies, if what i write is takin the wrong way, because i could have used different words.
I just write off the cuff…most all the time. I write what i’m thinking, not how it will be perceived.
We both are diehard Packer fans that have seen eye to eye maybe 98% of the time.
And except for instances like this (which i’m sure occurred previously), we’ve always got along.
At the end of the day.
I’d have regrets if my actions changed that.
I don’t recall any ill words coming my way from you, PF4L. And if there was, oh well. Maybe at some point over the past decade.
I know you can poke at some people with a bit of name calling at times, which isn’t what I personally choose to do unless they are really really really asking for it, but to each their own. I am not your mother. I am not the self appointed moderator here. Maybe I’m just lucky because I agree with most of what you say, LOL.
I appreciate your sentiment. Hope all is well. Go Pack Go.
Those were two ugly last drives, one by the Packers and the Bills.
As much as we like Mason Crosby, i think that last field goal attempt speaks volumes.
I think we need to get rid of the old people we’ve been hanging onto. Crosby and Lewis
Nobody younger can do what they do?
We ran the ball nice, saw a couple flash plays, but other than that, that was painful to watch.
BRING ON THE LIONS!! 🙄
This was the best performance so far in some ways. They at least remained competitive and didn’t get blown out. Otherwise, the Packers have so many holes that this is probably the best they can play this year. Maybe they will look better playing the Lions, but still too many holes and problems. The time of possession was insane. The Packers had the ball longer than the Bills. At one point, they had the ball for 27 minutes, while the Bills had it for 17 minutes, yet the Packers were losing by 10 points. Usually time of possession means something if your offense isn’t at the bottom of the NFL like the Packers. But the Packers can’t score so for them time of possession isn’t as a big an advantage. Still, the offense that LaFleur ran was the right strategy. They needed long drives. They kept the running the ball, and they had a chance at the end. But for the Bills, their offense can score so quickly it doesn’t matter that they don’t dominate time of possession. This is the only way that the Packers can compete this year. But if they can’t run the ball they have no shot.
The defense is still playing very poor, especially the run defense. They were giving up big runs in the first half so I don’t want to hear how they were too tired or whatever other excuses there are. Walker’s season has been a disappointment and his ejection didn’t help. Not to mention, I didn’t even notice if they were worse out there after he got ejected.
At least Doubs and Toure had some nice catches so there is something to look forward to.
A few things:
1 It was a mistake for LaFleur to go for the 4th down in the 3rd quarter. Sure your down 3 scores (17), but you can’t get back into the game unless you score 3 times. Take the points that are right in front of you. Kick the field goal. Put three on the board rather than 0. LaFleur chases to many points and this is not the first time I have stated such. The final drive may have played out different if the Packers were down 7 rather than 10?
2. Savage needs to see reduced plays. Savage can be a big liability in the run game. Give Rudy Ford more snaps. I don’t think anyone mentioned it last week, but on the Redskins final drive Savage left the game after 2 plays and wasn’t on the injury report this week?. Ford came in and made at least 2 tackles the last being to make the Redskins finally punt. Like I wrote last week Savage is dogging it in the tackling part of the game. Savage should be embarrassed by his attempts to tackle Allen and others.
3. I know it is not Zack Tom’s fault, but Tom does not have the anchor yet to hold up as an interior linemen. There was a reason Tom, early in the season was active, but never played a snap including on field goal and extra point attempts. Tom was getting blown off the ball on ST blocks.
4. There was a reason the Packers avoided using Nijman at right tackle for as long as possible.
5. Gary sure dogs it some of the time when he gets beat on the edge (often). What happens if the RB or QB stops and reverses direction. It would be nice to have someone in pursuit. Maybe it’s the toe, but it doesn’t look good.
LaFleur needs to reduce play time for some of the players that are not into playing all out in the regular season games.
I disagree on the first point, although I think it’s still valid. LaFleur didn’t have enough faith in his defense, so they went for it on 4th down. But he never had any reason to believe that they were going to force any turnovers. The Bills were scoring easily up until that point. But then of course, the Packers intercepted Allen twice and actually kept themselves in the game for once. Also, the special teams isn’t reliable anymore, so I don’t have as much faith as you do that they would have made the field goal.
For your other points, I’m also disappointed in Savage. The offensive line is getting pushed around too which is disappointing. I didn’t realize Jenkins was out. I guess I wasn’t paying attention.
Also, I agree about Gary, and you’re the only person I’ve seen mention that it looked like he quit on some plays. There were a few plays where he missed the sack and then didn’t try to chase Allen down. Matthews would’ve been after him the whole game and it’s disappointing Gary wasn’t. The defense as a whole sometimes look like they’re quitting at certain points. Alexander and Douglas looked like they were playing hard the whole game and got two picks. I wonder if this team lacks grit because they’ve only had winning seasons the last three years.
Gary is a pass rusher. He has never been good at setting the edge. Any well coached team is going to run to his side because he just doesn’t care or is not capable of stopping the run. I’ve watched him time after time crash hard to the QB and just let the runner go by him and never pursue. Maybe he is being coached to do this. I doubt that’s the case but who knows.
Gary was good at setting the edge until this contract season. You would notice major improvement in the run defense with he and Preston on the field.
“Matthews would’ve been after him the whole game and it’s disappointing Gary wasn’t.”
See Seahawks/Packer NFCCG where Mathews “needed a minute”, or actually, the last 5 minutes of the game, by taking himself out. And we know, what happened the last 5 minutes.
Howard, i have to say i remember a play where Gary pulled up and stopped pursuit. Might have been Allen?…Not sure.
My 1st thought was….hey, whatever happened to your high motor.
Then i thought he might have slowed up because a couple other Packer players in pursuit had better angles. So i brushed it off giving him the benefit of the doubt.
If there were others, i missed them, but yea, that would be concerning from him.
His game (to me) is being relentless, but that’s up at the LOS usually.
Twice against the Redskins and three times against the Bills. It could be the toe? When you get beat around your edge by RBs (Redskins), twice by Allen, and once when Diggs caught a flat pass on his side you need to not let up. You never know when the other defenders may miss tackles (often), but slow down the runner.
In Gary’s defense it was a very good hustle play when he caught the redskins QB from behind causing the fumble and TD that was overturned by penalty on Stokes.
To me it looks bad and can allow more unnecessary yardage for the opponent.
That what were into now, Moral Victories?? Last I checked The Flagship franchise of NFL was in it for Super Bowls. We don’t hang NFC North Title banners, unlike that Lavender Scum to the west. Its time to clean this shit up now before Rodgers leaves, cuz once that happens we will be in dark ages again (for prob decades). That loss to filthy unwashed Bills hurt me more than you can know!! A-Hole Diggs in a punk, always was & we always let that POS score.
Rodgers with NOOO weapons, NO O-Line had better QB rating than Blockhead Allen. On road in loud landfill, filled with human jesup.
we got our 1 play out of watson, be out for weeks again. way to reach Gutekunst
LOL…..I’m starting to wonder if he’s going to be put on IR one day, because he got injured getting off the bus.
Yea…this trading up routine that Gute likes to do here n there hasn’t panned out well with the likes of Love, Amari, and Watson.
Hes a horrible GM. trade deadline tom, Q the crickets…..I just dont understand why it takes an act of Congress to get anything done in GB??? They shd be looking into getting rid of LaFluer & Gutekunst & have a plan for next season. I did notice more practice squad moves…..rollin eyes
You see that O-Line last night? Jesus, looked like 5 church ladies out there. Collingsworth even mentioned the line number times
Well as a fan I feel like that was half a victory. There seemed to be a sense of urgency and fight to win that I haven’t seen a lot of this year.
To Howards post about #26. I did notice seeing #20 Rudy Ford playing at a high level and “Throwing some bone around”. Give the kid a shot, what do you have to lose.
I don’t know if #26 is playing hurt or not. But if he is hurt they we don’t need you until your not. Next Man Up.
Savage needs to be traded or cut. Hes a liability back there, neither he or Amos tackle worth a shit. See feeble effort on Allens run to 1
When Amos played for the Bears that’s the one thing he did well, tackle. I guess the Packers fixed that and brought him down to their tackling ability, terrible.
PFF has scored Amos very very high for most of his career since 2016, this season however, so far, he’s at a dismal 54.7
I read an article …down the hall, headlined about the rookies need more targets.
This was my post….which should earn me a bunch of thumbs down for (GULP), blaming the front office…lol
That isn’t….Carrying the G 😔
Oh Well 😁
Saying the Packers need to get the younger receivers more targets is kind of stating the obvious.
That’s the position upper management put them in.
But sometimes talk is easier than action.
It’s now week 9 of the Packers continuous training camp for rookies who need to be productive RIGHT NOW.
This is NOT how draft and develop works…unless of course you deplete the talent pool, then realize you need receivers, then you draft two, needing them to be productive now.
That isn’t how Championship teams are built.
If you have to rely on a rookie draft class, you have already lost.
I think the rookies should learn as they go, and the targets they get will be the targets they’ve earned.
Nothing against the rookies, but….they’re rookies, they aren’t on the same level mentally as Lazard, Cobb, and Watkins.
These rookies need a year or two at least, to learn the NFL, the speed, timing and mental aspect of the game.
There are only so many Justin Jeffersons who excell the first year. But we didn’t trade up for Justin Jefferson, we traded up for Jordan Love.
Rodgers should throw to whoever earns the targets and can move the chains, Whether rookies or veterans, rb’s, wr’s or tight ends.
The Packer site down the hall, has 6 new articles and one podcast, since last nights game ended.
Just to put things in comparative perspective.
Can we start referring to LaFleur as McFleur now? Or is too soon? Hehe! I was talking to my brother before the game yesterday and it kinda just rolled off the tongue when it slipped out in conversation. Somehow it seems…fitting.
Thats a good one or LaPew. Dude needs to go with Gutekunst . Everyone got better in North except us, what a shock. Outbid by Bears AGAIN for Claypool. Skinflints in Packer front office are pathetic. This is by far the WORST run organization in NFL.
GET Sean Peyton while we can!!!!!!!!!!