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Packers Attack Special Teams

In 2020 the image of JK Scott running side by side with a Jaguars punt returner without making a tackle was arguably the second most cringeworthy play of the Packers regular season. If you agree with that argument you probably also have his sideline dance against the Eagles punt returner as the worst play. Neither opponent highlight real moment involved an attempt to make a tackle by Scott. He was the NFL equivalent of a bullfighter, missing only a red cape.

Green Bay Packers’ JK Scott (6) participates in organized team activities Tuesday, May 25, 2021, in Green Bay, Wis.

In the 2020 NFC Championship game his first punt traveled 38 yards and came down at the 27 yard line. That is a decent punt for a high school playoff game but not the NFC Championship. In the Packers first playoff game against the Rams, Scott’s first punt went 37 yards and was downed at the opponent’s 21 yard line. When your job amounts to three punts a game you can’t be less than mediocre 1/3 of the time you are on the field. When I heard that he was taken out of last week’s preseason game due to a cramp, I wondered if there was more to the decision. His last punt as a Packer went for 56 yards to the three yard line, but out-kicked his coverage and gave up an 18 yard return for a net of 38 yards. He was the holder on the missed field goal, perhaps that error was also partly his fault. Packer fans should feel relief tonight. The screaming at his flailing tackles, his shank kicks and slow release are over. Three years of punting roller coaster results are in the past. Bring on the NFL’s highest gross punter for 2020.

The Bills’ Tyler Bass kicks a 28-yard field goal against the Ravens as the Bills’ Corey Bojorquez (9) holds the ball.

The track record for the Packers new punter, Corey Bojorquez, is good for punting distance, but he allowed a high number to sail into the end zone. Some stories are reporting his great improvement this preseason but those numbers are inflated by kicking in Denver. Still, the Packers recognized a failed draft pick, cut him loose, and spent draft capital to improve special teams. This is a move, both in recognition and in response that bodes well for the future. Let’s hope the improved Special Teams future starts in New Orleans, or Dallas as coach Sean Payton forecast yesterday due to the current flooding in the gulf states.

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Paul Edwards

Paul Edwards is a lawyer, victim advocate, writer, and long term Packer fan and Packer history enthusiast.

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67 Comments

  1. Howard September 3, 2021

    To me the most cringe worthy play that Scott was involved in last year did not start as a Scott mistake. The errant snap from Bradley on the second quarter extra point against the Rams should have put both Bradley and Scott on the you must go list. Bradley (bad snap) and Scott (shovel pass to Cosby) in combination almost resulted in Cosby being seriously injured. Bradley has had his share of errant snaps. I would bet Bradley at the most only has one more bad regular season or practice snap before he is cut. It is interesting the Packers signed Wirtel (long snapper) to the practice squad. Wirtel like Corey B was on the Rams preseason team. They have probably worked together on several exchanges (punts, Xtra points, field goal) in the Rams 2021 preseason camp

  2. Mick September 3, 2021

    I just hope the Packer special teams ——- are special for a change. This unit has been near the bottom of the league for years. Crosby is the rock of this unit. Even if the STs’ finish in the middle of the standings, it would be considered good progress. Paul, you probably wrote your article before it was determined that the Pack will play the Saints in Jacksonville at 3:25pm ;;;;;; Dallas was considered at 1st, but the stadium was already booked that day.

  3. Mitch Anthony September 3, 2021

    He had one good boomer that got him some recognition from Pat McAfee and that was about it. Always thought he needed a bunch more meat on his bones and thought they might work with him on conditioning a bit more. Yeah, he’s a punter but he is (was) an NFL player so work on looking the part. When you look like a high-schooler I guess it is kind of hard to justify a tackle attempt on a running freight train but man, he whiffed at it when he could muster a … try.

    Maybe some lessons to be learned are: try not to pick a college kid from a southern conference to punt in Green Bay if cold weather kicking is important, and if the school is an offensive powerhouse the punter might not be getting much quality work.

  4. Ferris September 3, 2021

    Recipe for success. All kickoffs are touchbacks and all punts are fair caught. Why did Buffalo let this guy go is my question? Just kick it high and it has to be fair caught. The Packers have not had a decent punter in a decade. Maybe this guy is the answer.

  5. Mitch Anthony September 3, 2021

    Ten years is about right. Remember when they sent Jon Ryan packing for Derrick Frost? I remember driving in the car listening to game day coverage and hearing the news of the move and screaming at the radio. Ryan went on to a pretty decent and long career with Seattle after that and Derrick Frost,….not so much.

  6. Tom M September 5, 2021

    Jon Ryan had been a very good punter for us and he was due for a big paycheck. Management said no and they’ve regretted it ever since. When you find a good kicker or punter, it’s just easier to pay them than to be constantly looking for one. They learned their lesson because we’ve kept Mason Crosby forever. I suspect his tackling, or lack there of, was the deciding factor in JK Scott’s release. He had the leg but not the consistency. That could be coached. The fear of contact. Not so much.

    1. PF4L September 5, 2021

      “He had the leg but not the consistency. That could be coached.” Princess Tommy

      You sure Princess?…in 3 years, it still wasn’t coached?
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      Or….they tried to coach him, but it didn’t take.
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      Bottom line….it could be coached?
      Is that why they gave him his walking papers?
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      Draft and develop, right boss?….lol
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      Scott was never an accurate punter, and he had a god awful slow punt delivery.
      He was drafted for his hang time….only.
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      I can’t keep coming in here, educating you Gomer. Sooner rather than later you have to start figuring this stuff out on your own but…..
      You’re welcome.
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      1. Tom M September 5, 2021

        Are you still upset you were wrong about Benkert? But you gave him a better grade than Jordan Love. His stats better. Why isn’t he on the 53? I base my evaluations on what I see. I trust what I see. I comment on what I see. You on the other hand, base your evaluations on stats and what you read in the media. That’s the difference between you and I. I make my own decisions, you have to have others to tell you what to do. We’ll see who’s correct. I see Jordan Love with a bright future. The game wasn’t too big for him. He had good pocket presence. He has a quick release. He made some good throws and some he’d like to have back. That’s how a 22 year old QB learns. I don’t give a fuck about his stats. And neither does LaFleur or Gutekunst. He showed me what I needed to see. He’s got a chance to be as good as Herbert. You want Love to fail because that means your girlfriend will be gone if he doesn’t. Well honey, that’s life in the NFL. Brady didn’t finish with New England and Rodgers won’t finish in Green Bay. Go follow the Raiders next year if you love tinker bell so much. No one will think less of you. No one thinks much of you now.

        1. PF4L September 6, 2021

          So many raging rants. Why are you so angry?
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          And please, stop calling me honey…i’m not your sister.

          1. Tom M September 6, 2021

            Hey, sweetheart! JK Scott got a tryout with the Dolphins today. I guess Miami didn’t get your in depth scouting report on our former kicker. I’m still amazed Kurt Benkert somehow made it thru wavers after your preseason “grades.” These NFL GM’s, they sure can’t judge talent like you can! Stay special my friend…..

  7. Ferris September 5, 2021

    I wonder what would be happening now if GB had drafted TJ Watt, like EVERYONE except TT wanted them to. I hear he wants $30M per year. Can any team afford to pay a Defensive player that kind of scratch, no matter how many sacks they get? Bosa now makes $27M does he really make them that much better?

    1. PF4L September 5, 2021

      Hers’s a couple possible scenario’s….
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      1) We are trying to decide whether to keep him, or trade him out, after this season under a franchise tag
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      2) We very well may have won the Super Bowl last season, because the name Kevin King would never have been spoken.

      1. Ferris September 8, 2021

        2 good points. If only King never wore a Packers uniform.

  8. NobodysBurfect September 7, 2021

    I honestly think missing Watt had a domino effect that put us into our current cap situation. If we had Watt, we wouldn’t have needed to crack open the piggy bank on Z AND Preston, and we could have used the Gary pick at #12 on Brian Burns to have someone alongside Kenny C (something freaking EVERYONE was saying, just like with Watt.)

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    Picking Watt would have allowed us to draft higher at other positions of need – like a WR, MLB, or as I already mentioned the D line.

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    Packers fans bitched for years about Ted being stingy in free agency, but Gute went too far in the opposite direction. Dude went on an OLB shopping spree, and spent our highest draft pick in ages on a guy who rode the bench behind those starters. And now we’re dealing with the fallout of needing to pay too many people, with core players like Jaire & Jenkins having contracts looming.

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    Look – we’re all armchair GM’s here, and hindsight is always 2020. But if there’s one thing I think most of us can agree on, it’s that the best teams are well rounded. Are we a good team? Yup. Great team? I’d say so. But I still don’t think it’s possible to get over the hump when you completely neglect entire positional groups. And we’ve been doing that for years.

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    To be honest – I hope I’m proved wrong this year, but I don’t think I will be.

    1. Ferris September 8, 2021

      Yes I can see that. We all know they should have taken him…$30M for a pass rusher still seems steep to me. Guess we will never know what would have happened. The Vince B pick worked out well though.

  9. Tom M September 7, 2021

    TJ Watt or Z Smith? I see no real difference. Both very good and both got paid. You can only afford one. I don’t recall anyone, fans or media, pushing for Brian Burns. And I got vested pretty heavily in that draft. We lost to the Bucs because Rodgers came up small in the 4th quarter and Kevin King gave up some big plays. We needed a corner. Is Eric Stokes the answer? He didn’t beat out King in preseason and King didn’t play. You can’t pay all your core guys the highest amount at their position. Some guys will have to walk like Linsley. It’s easier to find a center than a LT. It’s why you let Linsley walk and keep Bakhtiari. It’s easier to find a WR than a shut down corner. It’s why they’ll let Adams walk and sign Alexander to a contract extension. I see this team as good enough for Rodgers to get to the SB. Even he’s said it’s SB or bust. And if we bust, look for the team to be vastly different next year.

    1. PF4L September 7, 2021

      People…educate yourself…listen to this man.
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      “Tom M July 11, 2021
      As far as Rashan Gary. He’ll start opposite Za’Darious Smith. You can take that to the bank sweetheart….”
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      When Princess Tommy talks…..people laugh, then they politely pretend to listen.
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    2. PF4L September 7, 2021

      Lets hope Stokes is the answer…because if he isn’t, Gute will then have 3 1st round picks sitting on the bench in the last 3 years.
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      Acceptable to you maybe….but like the quality of your comments…the bar is set pretty low.
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      Wasn’t 2021 going to be the year of drafting starters?

      1. Tom M September 7, 2021

        Aaron Rodgers was a first round draft pick. Aaron Rodgers sat on the bench for three years. By your own definition then, Aaron Rodgers is a bust. Jordan Love will start in 2022. No one will care that he sat for two years if he’s the next Justin Herbert. In case you haven’t noticed Z Smith has a back injury and may not play. I wonder who could possibly start in his place? Alexander, Gary, Savage, Jenkins, Dillion, Myers, Newman will all start. As will Amari Rodgers and Eric Stokes just as soon as Cobb and King get injured. Alexander and Jenkins aren’t just starters but pro bowl players. And Savage isn’t far behind. As usual, you have no clue as to what your talking about.

        1. PF4L September 7, 2021

          Yes..Aaron Rodgers sat on the bench for 3 years.
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          A) Because he was a project that needed work?
          B) Because he needed to watch Favre and learn how to, not throw careless interceptions
          C) You are still a cunt.
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          ” In case you haven’t noticed Z Smith has a back injury and may not play. I wonder who could possibly start in his place?” – Princess Tommy
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          Gee…Ummmm….i don’t know Mr. Asshat…Jonathon Garvin? Chauncy Rivers?…Preston Smith?
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          I heard from some highly knowledgeable expert asshat, that Rashan Gary would be starting opposite Z Smith.
          But then again, maybe it’s just more of his bullshit, piled on top of his other bullshit he dispenses, and he just can’t keep his bullshit straight.
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          Tom M July 11, 2021
          “As far as Rashan Gary. He’ll start opposite Za’Darious Smith. You can take that to the bank sweetheart….” – asshat
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          Now….do you want to amend that, make changes, pretend you didn’t say it, or should we just continue to take that to the ….bank.
          Or is it finally time to put on your big boy pants and understand that the Smith brothers will be starting, for the 3rd year in a row.
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          “Wasn’t 2021 going to be the year of drafting starters?” – PF4L
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          You do know, that Dillon, Alexander, Jenkins, Gary and Savage weren’t drafted this year right? Well…if you weren’t aware of that lets chalk this up to another learning opportunity for you and once again…..
          You’re welcome.

          1. Tom M September 8, 2021

            Your bullshitting me, right? You honestly think Jonathan Gavin or Chancey Rivers starts ahead of Rashan Gary? This is why your better off keeping your mouth shut. Matt LaFleur didn’t play any of his starters in preseason. While Gavin and Rivers got extensive playing time. What can we conclude from that? Gavin and Rivers are backups. While Gary is a starter. You might have been able to see that if you didn’t have your head so far up Kurt Benkert ass. Ok, maybe not. You want to focus just on first round picks? Fine. Gutekunst has had 5. Three will start. While Stokes will start just as soon as Kevin King gets injured. I give him until the end of September. Jordan Love starts next year. And we already have two starters out of this years draft class without Stokes. Most Packer fans would be happy by all this, but not you. When Aaron Rodgers fails, you have to have someone to blame. And for you it will always be the evil Brian Gutekunst.

          2. PF4L September 8, 2021

            OMFG!!…lol
            Just when i thought you couldn’t be any dumber…smh
            No, i’m not bullshitting you, it’s called sarcasm dumbass.
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            Sarcasm……
            sar·casm
            the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.
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            Two starters without Stokes?
            One is starting because of Linsley’s departure (no choice other than to shuffle Patrick around or select Hansen) out of necessity.
            The other because of Bakhtiari’s injury. Newman will be on the bench when Bakh comes back.
            I would hope Meyer could start as a center being a 2nd round pick coming out of Ohio State.
            Citing the fact Linsley was a 5th round pick.
            But that’s what Ted did…drafted Pro Bowl and All Pro lineman out of the 4th and 5th rounds…Gute, hasn’t been as skilled, so far.
            Two rookies on the O line isn’t ideal. But no one would expect you to know that.
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            Now…back to your mental disabilities….
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            Did you just proclaim (again) that Gary is a starter?
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            Now….. if Z Smith couldn’t start because of injury, then yes, Gary would be the replacement starter for that specific game, that is how it works Einstein as a 2nd team bench player.
            That is his job as a back up bench player, If the starter is out…fill his spot until he comes back.
            Any questions on that?
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            A bench player starting for an injured starter, is not classified as a “starter”
            He’s still a back up, replacing a starter until the starter is healthy.
            Are you starting to piece this together yet?
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            Yes…Stokes would start if King got injured, that is his job as a back up bench player. If the starter gets injured, he fills in for the starter.
            You following along here?
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            Seriously now….this shit is simple and basic, like recognizing sarcasm.
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            In reference to me keeping my mouth shut….who else would bother explaining these basic fundamentals to you?
            Instead of constantly displaying anger, how about you express a little gratitude and simple appreciation by saying…
            Thank you PF4L.
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            Please….try to do better in the future.
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            “And we already have two starters out of this years draft class without Stokes. Most Packer fans would be happy by all this, but not you.” – Princess
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            Or…more realistically, we have one starter out of this draft (Meyers). Who still hasn’t taken a NFL snap.
            A starter is a starter because they have proven themselves on the field. How about we wait and watch how this unfolds when Meyer and Newman suit up for an actual game?… and take their first NFL snaps….Would that be a good idea Princess?
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            Now, IF…. (when) Bakhtiari comes back, and the Packers designate Lucas Patrick to the bench instead of replacing Neuman at right guard, then in that scenario, Newman would be an actual starter. But…that has to happen first, doesn’t it?
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            Now…i understand that your definition of a starter, and a back up bench player starting for an injured starter is blurred and confusing.
            Maybe, just maybe….under my guidance, it will start to make sense to you one in time.
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            I’m happy to help a friend.
            You’re welcome.

          3. PF4L September 8, 2021

            BTW…have you figured out that Dillon, Alexander, Jenkins, Gary and Savage weren’t drafted in 2021 yet, or are you still confused?

          4. Tom M September 8, 2021

            And that’s how you get to start in this league. Either someone gets hurt or someone leaves in FA. It’s called life in the NFL. Saying Jonathan Gavin or Chancey Rivers will start over Rashan Gary isn’t sarcasm, that’s just pure stupidity. And I never said they were drafted in 2021. I said they’re starters. This is the bullshit you pull. First you say, “Gutekunst can’t have another first round pick on the bench.” So I list all his starters. Then you say well, I’m only taking about the first round. So I clarify. 3 out of 5 right now. And all 5 by next year. Now your say you just meant just the 2021 draft. Then I clarify again. Yes, but the only reason Myers is starting is because Linsley left. Well no shit! Of course that’s why he’s starting! Because you can’t pay him 62.5 million which makes him the highest paid center in the NFL! Every time your proven you wrong you come back and say that’s not what I said. It’s your typical bullshit.

          5. PF4L September 8, 2021

            So angry all the time….smh
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            Holy shit little man….do i have to go slower, step by step explaining everything little thing to you?
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            It is sarcasm, based on your contention that Gary already is starting for Preston Smith by your own statement.
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            Tom M July 11, 2021
            “As far as Rashan Gary. He’ll start opposite Za’Darious Smith. You can take that to the bank sweetheart….” – asshat
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            JC…keep up…..WAKE UP Princess…holy shit…lol
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            “And I never said they were drafted in 2021. I said they’re starters” – Lettuce Head
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            Really?…i wrote…..
            ““Wasn’t 2021 going to be the year of drafting starters?” – PF4L
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            Then your retort was…..
            “Alexander, Gary, Savage, Jenkins, Dillion, Myers, Newman will all start”
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            Normally…i’d say your playing…..dumb
            But….i’ve read too many of your comments.
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            How starved for attention are you?…..damn.

          6. PF4L September 9, 2021

            Tommy….trying to “quote” me…..again.
            Begging the question, is Tommy smarter than a 5th grader?

            First you say, “Gutekunst can’t have another first round pick on the bench.” Tommy
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            My actual statement….
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            PF4L September 7, 2021
            Lets hope Stokes is the answer…because if he isn’t, Gute will then have 3 1st round picks sitting on the bench in the last 3 years.
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            That’s Tommy quoting me?
            No…that’s Tommy, making things up as he goes, as per usual.
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            Maybe our highly educated Tommy, doesn’t really understand what quoting someone actually means.
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            Quote……
            As a verb, to quote, means to repeat someone’s words in quotation marks.
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            Maybe that will help Tommy.
            Maybe not.

            Side note: At this stage, it seems that all i can do about Tommy, is pity him.

  10. PF4L September 7, 2021

    Typical Rodgers hater with a bonus….(a message from the United States Education Secretary
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    “Because, when you see that 3 players covers your favorite target, what is the first what should comes to your mind. If that is the game 11 on 11 there must be at least one player who is uncovered. In the real game (2020 NFCCG), there was 2. That fact you’ll never be able to change and that failure is not on FO or Mike Murphy or MLF. ” – Anonymous
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    “As excellent as he is, he has (as all other humans) flaws. Smart person would recognize own flows and will not allow them to become disturbance in the most important moment for himself.” Anonymous
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    “Stay in school kids” – Miguel Cardona

    1. PF4L September 7, 2021

      Random…..how many months now, has there been a problem (glitch) with post not showing up?
      Like 4 months?
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      How can we help?…Can we all kick in a few bucks?
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      I’ll probably see this post show up in 12-24 hours.

  11. Tom M September 7, 2021

    “A message from the United States Education Secretary?” Is this like another one of your COVID-19/Tyson Farms updates? Good god man, every word out of your mouth is a total embarrassment! Sometimes it’s better not to say anything at all. Every time you open your mouth you confirm the obvious.

    1. PF4L September 7, 2021

      Take it easy there little man, you get riled up so easy.
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      Deep breath…atta boy, now relax and just breathe.
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      Relax son…it’s a school night, get your rest.

  12. PF4L September 8, 2021

    Let’s depart from Tommy’s dumbing down of totalpackers for a change of pace.
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    How bad is the cap situation in 2022?
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    This 2021 season, the Packers have 5.6 million in dead cap money. Including $491.000 from Devin Funchess.
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    In 2022, it’s wildly recognized that both P. Smith and Rodgers are assumed gone.
    That will make this years 5.6 million look like pocket change.
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    In trading and/or releasing Rodgers and Smith, the Packers will have 34 million in dead cap cash in 2022, just from those two.
    And there will be more with the Packers needing to sign key players to new deals and get under the cap.
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    If you include Z. Smith to that scenario…the Packers would have 46 million in dead cap money, from 3 players.
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    The down the road pitfalls of going on a drunken one week free agent spending spree.

  13. Tom M September 9, 2021

    Aaron Rodgers counts 46 million against the cap next year. 19 million if we trade him. You can say it’s Z Smith all you want. But that statement is as accurate as your preseason grades and your proclamation that we’ll keep three QB’s. It’s also why he’ll never be the GOAT. He’s more interest in money. Then blames everyone else on why he doesn’t win championships. Enjoy your farewell tour. It starts Sunday.

    1. PF4L September 9, 2021

      Sigh….JFC, you again?
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      The subject was dead cap money (pay attention)
      Rodgers dead cap money is 26.847 million, if cut or traded before June 1st.
      P. Smith is 7.25 million
      Z. Smith is 12.38 million
      Do the math dumbass.
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      Z Smith? What statement did i make? You off your meds?
      All i said was he was more dead money if he was cut. (12.3 million) added to 34 million.
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      What the fuck is your actual problem Princess?….lol
      Holy shit.

  14. PF4L September 9, 2021

    Tom M September 6, 2021
    Hey, sweetheart! JK Scott got a tryout with the Dolphins today.
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    Well….that’s fantastic. Do you want a cookie?
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    How did that tryout go?
    I only ask because i can’t find any sports site that said anything about it.

    1. PF4L September 10, 2021

      Take your time Tommy.
      Hope everything is ok.

      1. PF4L September 10, 2021

        Yawn

  15. PF4L September 9, 2021

    Tom M September 8, 2021
    “Mark Murphy is a former player, NFLPA attorney,….”
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    Interesting Tommy….Tell us when Mark Murphy was an attorney for the NFLPA.
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    I would think i’d find that info at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Murphy_(safety,_born_1955)
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    But to my surprise…they forgot to list it?
    I’m so confused.
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    Please Tommy…I know you, i know you don’t just “make things up”.
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    So…please, educate us…… about Mark Murphy being a NFLPA attorney

    1. PF4L September 10, 2021

      Take your time Tommy.
      Hope everything is ok.

      1. PF4L September 10, 2021

        Yawn

  16. PF4L September 9, 2021

    Cam Newton: “It’s not 32 guys out there that’s better than me bruh. Let’s just be honest.”
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    https://twitter.com/i/status/1436024693623042049
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    I’ma I’ma I’ma….gonna be honest…there are probably 32 QB’s who would go after their own fumble in a winnable SB game…bruh.

    1. Mick September 10, 2021

      Good one PF4L. Newton would be more credible if he instead said————- “It’s not 32 players out there that’s better than me celebrating and show boating,,,,, bruh”! …… LOL

  17. PF4L September 9, 2021

    First off……
    Props to Rob Edwards, he’s been the busiest writer as of late.
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    The rest of you, i’ll assume you’ve enjoyed your 2 weeks plus of off time here. No doubt, re-charging your batteries for the start of the regular season.
    I’m not judging, i took 2 weeks off myself.
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    But now, it’s time to roll up our sleeves again.
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    I bring this up, only because i’m getting word from Tommy’s people, that he is getting tired of carrying this website on his shoulders and feels unappreciated.
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    So…i think we should all give Tommy his due, his fair share of credit.
    He has been the epitome of professionalism, insight, integrity, wisdom, and knowledge.
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    We all should be grateful we were around to witness and experience his excellence, and had the opportunity to learn from him.
    I know that…. i’ll be forever grateful.
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    This is not said nearly enough.
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    Thank you Tom M.

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  18. PF4L September 10, 2021

    I’m sure some of you remember the story i read about, and then commented in here about Preston Smith going to LeFleur and requesting that he be used only as a pass rusher, telling LeFleur he no longer wants to drop back in coverage.
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    Here is an article that sheds some light on that subject by Bill Huber
    http://www.si.com/nfl/packers/news/preston-smith-mike-smith-bounce-back
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    With what is going on about Z Smith and his unhappiness with his contract, coupled with the Preston Smith story above.
    It’s not surprising that the Packer players didn’t vote either Smith as respective Captains on defense.
    They voted in Amos and Clark.
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    Is Z. Smiths back injury related to his contract unhappiness?
    Hard to say, but this injury has been going on awhile.
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    In related news…if LaFleur keeps Z. Smith out of the opener, that means that Rashan Gary as the 2nd team back up, will start in his place.
    To not get that twisted….that doesn’t mean Gary is now one of the starting OLB’s. He’s filling in for a injured starter.
    Some….need that explained apparently.
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    Preston Smith is now on the injury report, apparently he suffered a head laceration and needed stitches, i’m guessing.
    Don’t know if he fell down….or what.

    1. Tom M September 10, 2021

      No one gives two shits who the team “captains” are. All they do is go out for the coin toss. Vital, I know. Now that’s sarcasm. Saying Jonathan Galvan will start is not. Z Smith’s back injury has nothing to do with his contract. He’ll be a FA after this season. He needs a big year to get another big contract. No one pays big money for a player with a bad back. Your already backpedaling on Rashad Gary. What a surprise. He’ll start this week. As usual your fixated on something stupid like depth charts. So if Gary has a big game does he go back to the bench because your “depth chart” says so? That’s how most NFL players get their chance because of injury. And no, no one remembers a story you read. We don’t care. Do you ever have an original thought? All you do is regurgitate what someone else says.

      1. PF4L September 10, 2021

        I back peddled huh?
        :)…You go ahead and stick with that story…Princess.
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        Gee Gomer…IF Gary had a big game, he’ll stay a starter and Z. Smith will be benched?
        Is that your logic? LOL
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        So you say no one gives two shits if they are not Captain?
        Did you take a poll?
        Or is Tommy just always right…even when he’s wrong?
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        Did Z Smith tell you he gives no shit, or are you just “winging it”…as usual.
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        No Princess, i’ve never had an original thought. not in 10 years.
        I rely on others to do my thinking for me.
        It’s amazing, how you can know me so well,
        You really have me figured out.
        You must be really, really, really…smart.
        .
        Please….try to do better than this Princess.
        You make this too easy.

  19. Tom M September 10, 2021

    Did everyone see the game last night? Brady once again proved why he’s the GOAT and Aaron Rodgers is not. That game was a dog fight from start to finish. And you just knew Brady would win the game with the ball in his hands and less than two minutes to play. Moreover, you didn’t need stats, or depth charts, or catch rates, to know it either. Aaron Rodgers doesn’t win that game. He can’t come from behind like that. And before you start your “ it takes a team” bullshit. Just remember Brady works for a lot less because he’s more motivated by winning championships than he is about stats and awards. Which is why you love Rodgers so much. You both love your stats. Almost as much as you love to blame others when he comes up small in big games. Brady would rather take less so there’s more money to sign players to help him. While Rodgers ego has to be the highest paid player. You cannot bitch because your the highest paid player in the NFL and then say I don’t have enough help. There’s only so much money to go around. Rodgers counts 46 million against a 208 million dollar cap next year and 19 million even if he’s traded. Brady would never handcuff his team that way. Rodgers bitches because he wants more input. But the saw cuts both ways. He wants more input but doesn’t sign team friendly deals to give management more flexibility. The only way the Packers pay him 46 million next year is if he wins the SB. Which means he’s got to start winning games like Brady did last night. No excuses.

    1. PF4L September 10, 2021

      Did you see my questions Princess?
      .
      Tom M September 6, 2021
      Hey, sweetheart! JK Scott got a tryout with the Dolphins today.
      .
      How did that tryout go?
      I only ask because i can’t find any sports site that said anything about it.
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      Tom M September 8, 2021
      “Mark Murphy is a former player, NFLPA attorney,….” – Tommy
      **************
      Interesting Tommy….Tell us when Mark Murphy was an attorney for the NFLPA. – PF4L
      .
      Please Tommy…I know you, i know you don’t just “make things up”.
      .
      So…please, educate us…… tell us about Mark Murphy being a NFLPA attorney.

      1. PF4L September 10, 2021

        Let me guess…..
        Tommy can make up fictional claims, but when asked about them…
        He’ll answer them, by saying….he doesn’t have to answer them?
        LOL

        1. Tom M September 10, 2021

          Here’s a fictional claim. The Packers will keep three QB’s and Rashan Gary won’t start but Jonathan Gavin will cuz he’s got better preseason stats! Oh wait, that was supposed to be sarcasm. Sure….

          1. PF4L September 10, 2021

            Did you see my questions Princess?
            .
            Tom M September 6, 2021
            Hey, sweetheart! JK Scott got a tryout with the Dolphins today.
            .
            How did that tryout go?
            I only ask because i can’t find any sports site that said anything about it.
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            Tom M September 8, 2021
            “Mark Murphy is a former player, NFLPA attorney,….” – Tommy
            **************
            Interesting Tommy….Tell us when Mark Murphy was an attorney for the NFLPA. – PF4L
            .
            Please Tommy…I know you, i know you don’t just “make things up”.
            .
            So…please, educate us…… tell us about Mark Murphy being a NFLPA attorney.

    2. Ferris September 11, 2021

      Het Tom, get on Craigslist and post an ad that you want to suck the cheater’s dick. Then please stop posting here. You embarrass yourself too much.

      1. PF4L September 11, 2021

        He(y)

    3. Cheese September 11, 2021

      I didn’t watch the game Thursday because I could give two shits about the Cowboys or Tom Brady. From what I hear, Dallas’s kicker missed two field goals and an extra point. That’s seven points off of the board. If he makes those kicks Dallas wins. But instead, somehow Dallas missing three kicks makes Tom Brady the GOAT.
      .
      Just like when LaFluer decided to kick a field goal with two minutes left being down by 8, essentially pissing the entire game away because all Tampa had to do was get A SINGLE FIRST DOWN when the Packers defense already proved they couldn’t stop a damn thing. Guess what? Tampa got a first down. Game over. OMG ISN’T TOM BRADY JUST MAGNIFICENT! ONLY TOM BRADY CAN MAKE FIRST DOWNS BECAUSE HE’S THE GOAT!
      .
      Even if Rodgers took less money the front office would actually have to spend it wisely. LOL. First off, there is no fucking way the Packers would have took on Antonio Brown, LeSean McCoy, Leonard Fournette, Ndamukong Suh, Jason Pierre-Paul, and Rob Gronkowski all in the same year, if ever. No. Fucking. Way.
      .
      With the names I just mentioned, all of their contracts in 2020 add up to about $37.25 million. There’s no way Rodgers gets paid $37 million more a year than Brady. So you can stop pretending Brady taking less money than Rodgers is funding the rest of the team to championships. That is Tampa Bay’s front office going ALL IN. Not like when the Packers say they’re going all in because they drafted three bench warmers with their top four picks and signed a middle of the road WR who decided to sit out for the season.

      1. PF4L September 11, 2021

        I watched because i’m a NFL purist and addict and i needed my fix.
        I’m damn glad i did because it was one hell of a good entertaining game.
        Of course, i watched it commercial free.
        My days of 3 hour football games are long over.
        .
        Watching Dallas lose is just a bonus :)

  20. PF4L September 10, 2021

    Tom M September 10, 2021
    ” Saying Jonathan Galvan will start is not. Z Smith’s back injury has nothing to do with his contract. [He’ll be a FA after this season]. He needs a big year to get another big contract.”
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    Listen close Princess…..
    1) I can look the other way when it comes to your shoddy grammar.
    .
    2) But i can’t look the other way when you constantly spew false information all over our website.
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    You claim…Z. Smith is going to be a free agent after this season.
    You want to stick with that story Princess?.
    .
    LET’S DO SOME BASIC 2ND GRADE LEVEL MATH GOMER.
    .
    Z Smith signed a 4 year deal in 2019.
    Now, without a calculator (no cheating!), what year does Smith become a free agent?
    A) 2019?
    B) 2020?
    c) 2021?
    D) 2022?
    E) 2023?
    .
    If you said E…that is correct, and you now see the vast error of your ways.
    As usual….You’re welcome.
    .
    Now….just for giggles Princess…if someone only drives directly to work 10 miles one way.
    Then only drives directly home …after work.
    How many total miles will that person have driven? (you can use a calculator if needed)
    HINT: Roundtrip
    .
    I know Princess, i know…MATH IS HARD.
    .
    Stay in school kids!

    1. Tom M September 10, 2021

      Z Smith will be cut after this season. Thus making him a FA. They’ve already moved most of his salary for this year into a signing bonus. Honey, you can take that to the bank. Just like when I said Rashan Gary would start and Kurt Benkert would be cut. This is it sweetheart for both Smith’s, Davante Adams, and Aaron Rodgers. Along with several others. You can bet your unemployment check on that.

  21. PF4L September 10, 2021

    I haven’t seen a beating like this since the aerial bombing attacks in the Gulf War in January 1991.

  22. PF4L September 10, 2021

    Tom M September 10, 2021
    No one gives two shits who the team “captains” are. All they do is go out for the coin toss. Vital, I know. Now that’s sarcasm.
    .
    That’s not sarcasm, that’s a stupid statement.
    .
    If no one cares, why do they bother voting?
    .
    Captains are the team leaders.
    .
    The team doesn’t need leaders Princess?
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    Your act is getting old, and i’m tiring of it.
    .
    Try to be a decent human being, or go crawl back under the rock you came from.

    1. Tom M September 10, 2021

      Leaders lead by example. Not because they have a C on their jersey or because they won some popularity vote. These are professional athletes. They don’t go around asking their “captains” for advice. Again PF4L, this is another one of these bullshit things you make more out of than it actually is. Like a camp arm throwing a few passes in an absolutely meaningless preseason game and then proclaiming he’ll make the roster. Or saying there’s no way Rashan Gary could start because of some imaginary bullshit depth chart. Z Smith will be cut after the season. I don’t need anyone to tell me that. Just like Rodgers will be traded and Davante will sign elsewhere. We’re not paying Rodgers 46 million next year just so he can be in the running for another meaningless MVP award. He’s got to win a SB. And after watching Brady Thursday night. I don’t see it happening. If you don’t like what I have to say then shut the hell up.

      1. PF4L September 11, 2021

        Did you see my questions Princess?
        .
        Tom M September 6, 2021
        Hey, sweetheart! JK Scott got a tryout with the Dolphins today.
        .
        How did that tryout go?
        I only ask because i can’t find any sports site that said anything about it.
        *******************
        Tom M September 8, 2021
        “Mark Murphy is a former player, NFLPA attorney,….” – Tommy
        **************
        Interesting Tommy….Tell us when Mark Murphy was an attorney for the NFLPA. – PF4L
        .
        Please Tommy…I know you, i know you don’t just “make things up”.
        .
        So…please, educate us…… tell us about Mark Murphy being a NFLPA attorney.

        1. PF4L September 11, 2021

          What’s wrong Gomer….
          .
          Can’t spin this one?

        2. Tom M September 11, 2021

          I said he got a tryout. I never said he signed. By your astute player evaluation with his slow delivery and poor hang times why would the Dolphins even bother? JK Scott is 25, 6’6” has a big leg and went to Alabama. He’s also wildly inconsistent. He’ll get multiple tryouts and he’ll be in camp next year with someone. NFL teams don’t waste their time on players that aren’t talented. Kickers get bounced around a lot. Our current kicker is on his third team in 12 months. I’m not saying he’ll make it. But I’m not going to dismiss him out of hand like you have. And neither has the NFL.

          1. PF4L September 11, 2021

            SMH….
            What was my one and only question about Scott?
            .
            How did that tryout go? (is that too complicated of a question?)
            .
            That’s all i asked, obviously you were keeping close tabs on Scott.
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            Now….what about your claim Murphy was a NFLPA attorney?
            .
            Still wondering how to spin that one, or do you just want to confess that it’s just more bullshit coming from you?
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            Since i’m here….You said the Packers were going to cut Z Smith after the season where he would then be a free agent.
            .
            Wouldn’t it be smarter to trade him if they wanted to move him, or….don’t you feel any team would give something up in a trade for him?
            Is Z Smith worthless, in your mind?
            Where’s the logic Princess, are you feeling ok?
            Does your head hurt?
            .
            Yea Princess….this isn’t getting any easier for you is it?
            .
            Want to know why?
            .
            Because to defend your bullshit, you have to breed more bullshit.

  23. PF4L September 11, 2021

    “Or saying there’s no way Rashan Gary could start because of some imaginary bullshit depth chart” – fictional writer
    .
    Yea…thats exactly what i said.
    .
    Lol.. seriously,,, you are…a cunt.

  24. PF4L September 11, 2021

    “These are professional athletes. They don’t go around asking their “captains” for advice.” – Gomer
    .
    Sounds about right Tommy.
    .
    Why would Eric Stokes want advice from someone like…Jaire Alexander? Pftt
    .
    Makes no sense.
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    Tom M September 10, 2021
    Z Smith will be cut after this season. Thus making him a FA.
    .
    LOL….Why didn’t i think of that, i’m so dumb….lol
    .
    Why would the Packers trade Z Smith and get something for their Pro Bowl linebacker, when they can just cut him….like Tommy says they are going to do.
    .
    Very very smart Tommy, not much gets by you. You seemingly know everything, that has happened, or will happen in the future.
    .
    You Sir, are my hero!! :)

  25. PF4L September 11, 2021

    ” These Americans were brave, strong and united in ways that shocked the terrorist, but should not surprise any of us…
    this is the Nation we know.” – George W. Bush
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    Hero’s are not found on a football field, basketball court, baseball diamond. Hero’s are found trying to help others, while risking their own lives.
    .
    Hero’s are found rushing into burning buildings trying to rescue people, knowing full well they may not walk out themselves.
    .
    Hero’s are found defending our Country ..from the ones who get back to their families unharmed, to the ones who return to their families with missing limbs and/or PTSD, to the ones who paid the ultimate price to serve.
    .
    Hero’s are a group of men on a hijacked plane, knowing their own lives are soon over. But take action against evil, trying to save the lives of innocent people that they don’t even know.
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    Godspeed to all those (everyone) effected by the cowardly terrorist’s acts of 9/11.

  26. Mick September 11, 2021

    Amen to that! Tons of respect for those who help others in need, and in this case, others who were in peril.