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Packers Melt Under Saint’s Heat

Head coaches and quarterbacks ultimately take the blame for an NFL loss. Unfortunately, Sunday’s Packer starters had a laundry list of volunteers for some of the blame. Coach LaFleur rested his starters for most of the preseason. The Packers had a new defensive coordinator so preseason play by starters to iron out assignments would seem logical. The defense started the game giving up two fifteen play touchdown drives. The defense was beaten on almost every rep of the first half. It was historically bad. Five TD’s by Winston. No sacks. The Saints totaled 171 yards rushing averaging 4.4 yards a carry with a long run of 14 yards by a running back. Just a steady diet of moving the chains. Winston also rushed for 62 yards The Pack defense totaled four pressures while picking up a penalty for roughing the QB on 4th down.. Green Bay’s defense had no answer. The also had no plan B. LeFleur described the defense as nonexistent in the first half. An accurate summary. The Saints offensive line was dominant, putting aside all of the hurricane distractions and taking it to the Packers.

Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers (12) on the turf after throwing a pass that was intercepted by New Orleans Saints cornerback Paulson Adebo (29) during early third quarter action. The New Orleans Saints hosted the the Green Bay Packers at TIAA Bank Field in Jacksonville, FL Sunday, September 12, 2021 after the Saint’s home game had to be move from New Orleans after Hurricane Ida hit the Louisiana coast. The Saints went into the half with a 17 to 3 lead over the Packers and walked away with a 38 to 3 win in their season opening home game away from home.

The Packer vaunted offense? What offense. The offensive line could not sustain blocks. Nor could they keep pressure off Rogers. Rogers seemed befuddled, unable to find open options and too slow to run away from pressure. With Saints breaking free he looked like Jordan Love’s failed attempts under pressure in the preseason. The interceptions rank as two of the poorest decisions of his storied career.

Other failures on this humid Sunday? The short list includes:

Dean Lowry getting beaten physically on many plays and then making a critical 4th down mental error penalty.

Kevin King watching a football game. Burned short, burned long. Why is he playing?

Did anyone see Randall Cobb get open on any play before garbage time?

L. Smith flattening Winston after the ball was out. Packer fans can scream all they want, but he could have let up, not thrown him to the ground, and kept the zebras from taking their opportunity.

Gutekunst for not addressing the D line early last year or early in this year’s draft. Add on a failed approach at linebacker.

LeFleur for a failed game plan, picking Joe Barry, resting all the starters and being out-coached by Sean Payton and staff in every phase of the game. Counting the NFC championship Lefleur has now been out-coached in his last two games. He fired his defensive coordinator after the last loss. Sunday’s debacle seems infinitely worse as far as game plan and execution. The defense looked lost. The Saints defense seemed to know the Packer plays so well one would think they were in the Packer’s huddle.

Last but certainly not least, Aaron Rodgers for a putrid performance.

Ironically, the Packers are tied for the North Division league. There are 15 more games on the schedule and nowhere to go but up. Time for Plan B, please. Next up, Detroit.

Paul Edwards

Paul Edwards is a lawyer, victim advocate, writer, and long term Packer fan and Packer history enthusiast.

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65 Comments

  1. Ed September 13, 2021

    Actually 16 more games on the schedule.
    Just 15 more then we need to recover from that s**** show.

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  2. Frank McClellan September 13, 2021

    Rogers is Rodgers no matter how you spell it. They must have thought the 17th season game made this one a practice.
    FM

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  3. PF4L September 13, 2021

    “Packers Melt Under Saint’s Heat” :)
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    The thing i was thinking, after the game started. Is that kind of lackadaisical play had little to do with the heat.
    Because it’s not like they started strong, then diminished.
    85 or 65…either way it was going to be a shit show.
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    Maybe Rashan Gary got tired quick idk, because he was replaced by Jonathon Garvin after 4 plays.
    Plus the fact, the Packers can’t say they aren’t used to the heat.
    Wisconsin just had one of the hottest summers on record.
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    i haven’t seen the teams snap count, but the linebackers got spelled quite a bit. Both Garvin and Rivers seemed to be in there quite often.
    Too bad that freshness didn’t translate into making plays. NOTING…that the roughing call on the Z Man was bs imo.
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    But i’m not laying it all on the linebackers. This game was a shit show from A_Z. that includes Rodgers and the coaches.
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    There needs to be a bunch of “Come To Jesus” moments for this team before they meet Detroit.

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  4. PF4L September 13, 2021

    There seems to be a lot of angst and disgust amongst Packer fans over the debacle concerning the NFL Game of The Week
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    I provide i brief diversion in the interest of positive mental healh.
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    “Their prisons, man made prisons…you’re doin time!”….lol
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8usZpqEtDv0

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  5. Ferris September 13, 2021

    9-8…Still may win the division with that record though. 2 Bears wins, 2 Lions, 2 Vikings. WFT, Bengals, and Browns. Losses to Rams, Seahawks. 49ers, Buffalo, Baltimore, KC, Pittsburgh, Arizona.
    Only reason they win is the other NFC North Teams suck worse.

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  6. PF4L September 14, 2021

    PF4L September 12, 2021
    Did anyone notice something quirky that Myers does in the shotgun, like really quirky….lol
    You may have noticed it during the game, if not, check it out, tell me what you think.
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    No one?

    It’s a definite trait of somebody who is clearly learning on the job.
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    It could be i’m the only one who noticed it, idk.
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    Linebacker snaps….
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    Preston – 38
    Gary – 37
    Garvin – 27
    Z- Man – 18
    Rivers – 11

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  7. PF4L September 14, 2021

    It should be noted….
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    Gutes 1st round pick got 8 snaps. You heard that right…8 snaps, while King had 56 snaps – 90%
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    I’m not saying whether Stokes should be starting yet or not…but 8 f’ng snaps?
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    Dequara, often advertised as a multi positional weapon (tweaner), had 3 or 4 snaps in the first half, before he got injured in the 2nd play after halftime.
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    Maybe next year Gute can draft us another 3rd round tight end, maybe 3 or 4 more lineman.

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    1. Bruce J September 14, 2021

      Agree 100%

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  8. Tom M September 14, 2021

    And maybe Aaron Rodgers can play like a franchise QB. Everybody sucked a bag of dicks on Sunday. Including your Lord and Savior. Sure glad he didn’t take that 90 million two year contract extension. It’s time for your team “captains” to lead. And it all starts with lover boy.

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    1. Ed September 14, 2021

      You’re like a broken record. Get a life.

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      1. PF4L September 14, 2021

        DON’T make the viking fans angry!!

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      2. Tom M September 14, 2021

        Sure Ed. If I get in line behind you and PF4L to kiss Aaron Rodgers ass do I get to be one of the girls? I said everyone played like shit. Everyone. Let me ask you this Ed. Did you see Michael Jordan or Tom Brady on the field Sunday in Tampa? Cuz I sure as shit didn’t. And those two are who Rodgers compares himself to the most. Bold statements require bold action. You think maybe, just maybe, if Aaron Rodgers had been in camp with his teammates instead of playing grab ass with Miles Teller in Hawaii he doesn’t throw those two god awful interceptions? He’s been a distraction all offseason. He’s as much to blame, if not more, than anyone else. But you ladies keep telling yourselves Aaron Rodgers is perfect just the way he is….

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        1. Bruce J September 14, 2021

          Again… 100% agreement!

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        2. PF4L September 14, 2021

          Can’t we just talk about something other than Rodgers for God sake?
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          My God Man…what’s the obsession, does an hour of your life go by without Rodgers being in your head?
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          Lets relax Tommy, deep breath…maybe we can talk about what you know of Mark Murphy being a NFLPA attorney. I know i’m curious about that.
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          Can you tell us about it?

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  9. Tom M September 14, 2021

    The difference between you and me PF4L is I comment on what I see. Not on what I pretend to see. And I see Aaron Rodgers as a flawed QB. A QB that has let his enormous talent get over shadowed by his equally enormous ego. He’s not a particularly good leader. With many of his former teammates who find him distant and aloof. He’s always had this air of arrogance about him. And because of that, his teammates rarely rally around him. Which may have something to do with his lack of come from behind victories. Consequently, I’m not an Aaron Rodgers cheerleader like many of you girls. If that doesn’t make me popular around here. So be it. But as long as you ladies keep making excuses for your sweetheart, I’ll be here telling you your full of shit…

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    1. PF4L September 15, 2021

      Can’t we just talk about something other than Rodgers for God sake?
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      My God Man…what’s the obsession, does an hour of your life go by without Rodgers being in your head?
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      Lets relax Tommy, deep breath…maybe we can talk about what you know of Mark Murphy being a NFLPA attorney. I know i’m curious about that.
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      Can you tell us about it?
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      Lets relax Tommy, deep breath…maybe we can talk about what you know of Mark Murphy being a NFLPA attorney. I know i’m curious about that.
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      Can you tell us about it?
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      Can you tell us about it?

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  10. PF4L September 15, 2021

    Tom M September 14, 2021
    The difference between you and me PF4L is I comment on what I see.
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    Tom M September 8, 2021
    “Mark Murphy is a former player, NFLPA attorney,….”
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    Good…then comment on when you told us Murphy was a NFLPA attorney.
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    See it?…..Good, then comment.
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    You are about the last person in the world…to tell anyone….that they’re full of shit….lol
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    Glass houses kitty.

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  11. CJ September 15, 2021

    Tommy M…..get a life. Your lack of intellect and obsession is glaring

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  12. Kato September 15, 2021

    Well, I figured the season would go one of two ways. Either a successful season with a super bowl appearance, or a losing record as the team doesn’t get over over distractions of the off-season. It’s looking like the latter

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    1. PF4L September 15, 2021

      Dude….don’t dance….just say it.
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      If the Packers have a losing season, it’s Rodgers fault because of the off season.
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      I’m sure if the Packers have a losing season, then it’s all because of Rodgers off season.
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      It couldn’t be ANYTHING else!!
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      Lets bench him and save the season. Can’t we still trade him?
      Did Hundley get waived yet?
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      Rodgers sucks, his career is over. It’s 2015 all over again.
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      I was wondering how long this was going to take…lol
      Inside of 1 week…NOT BAD…Kudos!!!…lol
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      I’ll say what i said back in 2015 when everyone was crying about Rodgers.
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      I’ll ride with Rodgers, until the end.

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      1. Kato September 19, 2021

        I wouldn’t blame it on just Rodgers. It’s a team game. But, are you saying the distraction if wondering if the starting QB and MVP last year was coming back, leaving the team in limbo would have no effect on the team? Maybe the Packers come out today and do what they should do, and kick the shit out of the lions, and all appears “well.” For a week. Make no mistake, if the Packers continue to lose games, shit will get super ugly pretty quick.

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        1. PF4L September 19, 2021

          I addressed…what you said. Not what you didn’t say.
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          These are grown ass men. Are you saying what happened in the off season with Rodgers hurt this team so emotionally, that they can’t play up to their potential?
          Is that why the defense looked lazy?…..Rodgers off season?
          Did Kevin King have a 48 PFF grade because of Rodgers off season?
          Did the defense not get a sack because of Rodgers off season.
          Did Aaron Jones not run well because of Rodgers off season?
          Did receivers not get open because of Rodgers off season?
          Did Rodgers miss receivers because of his off season?
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          Now maybe, if the season falters as you mention, then you can still put it on Rodgers and the off season.
          And use that to blame the rest of the teams performance.
          Have at it if it makes you feel better.
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          But no matter how you spin it. It always seems to be on Rodgers.
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          I mean…lol…if the team has a bad 2 or 3 game stretch sometime during the season…then you can harken back and blame it on the residual damage of Rodgers off season.
          That would sound smart.
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          But do this…if the team falters, then call for Rodgers to be benched.
          Just like you did in 2015.
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          Let me help you Kato…..if the Packers continue to lose games, it’s because the coaches and the players weren’t good enough to win those games.
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          Or….maybe it’s because the players on the field during games, are too busy thinking about Rodgers off season, because the team isn’t “over it” yet…..lol
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          Again…sounds smart

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  13. PF4L September 15, 2021

    Mike Pettine: “Yea,,,,i was the problem”

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  14. rebelgb September 15, 2021

    Lets take an honest look at this game. Its easy to say this team was un-prepared simply due to not playing any starters in pre-season, and they got caught early season being flat footed. The problem with that is Arizona, Tampa, San Fran, Seattle, LA and even Dallas came ready to play Game 1. On the AFC side KC and Pittsburg all looked pretty damn good for week 1. So whats Laflueurs excuse as to why one of the so called “elite” teams in the NFL, or just say the NFC came out the way it did? It wasnt like we were rusty and NO beat us by a field goal on the last play of the game.

    Honeslty I watched the Vikings and Bears play and even though they both lost, they both looked alot more competitive and ready to play than the Pack did.

    If you look at our schedule, this team is in big trouble. By the time our LT gets back we may be 2-4. Then the schedule really gets tough. As many have pointed out on this site, the defensive line is a serious issue for this Packer team. You look at LA, San Fran, Tampa, they have STOUT defensive lines. It really seems to be the most common denominator on top teams and I dont see the Packers defensive line suddenly getting a lot better.

    As for Aaron, the game replay and the stats all point to a QB who though under pressure, was not overly victimized by a pass rush. What was concerning was his inability to find the quick target and establish a rhythm and sustain drives, both tenants of Lafluers system. He honestly looked like the Aaron of 2019 all game and thats not the QB who can win championships.

    Im not sure what its going to take to convince me that this team can go to San Fran, Tampa, Seattle or LA in the playoffs and win a big game; certainly beating up Detroit next monday wont convince me.

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    1. Mick September 15, 2021

      There are a few things all Packer fans should be concerned about. Enough has been said about the Rodgers holdout, so I’m not going there. First of all, where is the competitive fire? I get it that no starters played during the pre-season, and we started rooks at two positions on the O-line, and transplanted Jenkins to LT till Bahk returns. From the opening kickoff I noticed the Saints were buzzing around the field and full of football energy. Meanwhile on the Packers side, players and coaches were nonchalant, almost to the point that they were bored. No fire, no enthusiasm, For a team that is supposedly “all in”; knowing what’s at stake, and players mentioning that this year is SB bound or bust; how the hell do you not show a competitive fire? Next, I give LaFleur all the credit he deserves as a great offensive mind. But, I’m beginning to question his leadership and coaching prowess. When things are going good and the team is clicking, everyone drinks. But, when they run into a sold defensive opponent, they stall. Also whenever they have to travel long distance, they seem lost and out of tune. Examples, 2019, against S.D. and twice against SF; last year against Minn at home, and twice against TB. Whenever the opponent has our number and we don’t get that early lead and keep them on their heels, LaFleur has trouble adjusting. Other times when the going gets tough, he abandons what they do well, too early. And lastly, and most annoying; Joe Barrys’ been preaching “in your face” play at the linebacker and defensive secondary positions, yet; I witnessed the DBs’ still playing 10 to 12 yards off the line of scrimmage against N.O. Is Pettine wearing a Barry mask? I hope I’m wrong on this last comment but; the coaches call in the NFCCG last year, to go for a FG with the super bowl on the line is still in the players head. Rebel is right when he pointed out Rodgers not being able to find checkdowns when the pressure is on, is hurting this team. I’ve mentioned before he is to reliant on Adams. Problem is every opponent knows this, and Adams gets double teamed. And if he’s double teamed, somewhere, somebody is open. It almost seems like Rodgers doesn’t like check downs, and I don’t buy the excuse Rodgers doesn’t trust other receivers. After all, Adams has missed 6 games the past 2 years with injuries; and the Pack is 6-0 in those games. Under that scenario, that’s where I question LaFleurs’ leadership, he is the coach, and he has to fix it!

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      1. Howard September 16, 2021

        Mick, it is clear to me that the Packers just aren’t a physical team. That is why I didn’t have a problem with the Z. Smith hit. If only other Packers defensive players would show the same. The physical part just isn’t being the toughest or meanest players. Physical can also go to play calling. The blowout losses are good examples of Packer problems, but the two regular season losses that were close losses show what the real Packer problem is.
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        In both the Philly loss in 2019 and the colts loss in 2020 the Packers were up and instead of the colts and Philly losing by the pass they became physical and ran the ball at the Packers. They ran their teams to victory against a smoke and mirrors 3-4 Packer defensive front. Until the Packers change their style and mind set against the run they can be blown out and beat. Sometimes that process will be slow and sometimes it will be fast.
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        The Packer offense does not use the run game to get back into a game. Sometimes the run game can be frustrating but you just have to keep pounding the ball. It is a physical mind set by the play caller. Once the opponents start bringing up an extra guy or two into the box then you can go deeper on pass plays. The playoff game against the Rams is a prime example. The Packers ran the ball. Sometimes it didn’t gain much, but as the game went on it forced the Rams to bring up extra defenders, and/or pay more attention to the run. Then you go over the top and win going away. The Packers gave up to early on the run against TB, and NO. To me they did the same in some of their other blow out losses.
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        I’m surprised when people bring up that LaFleur should have gone for it on 4th down against TB, rather than kick the field goal. To me you cannot complain about that call by LaFleur without complaining about LaFleur going for a 2 point conversion in the 3rd quarter rather than kicking the extra point. LaFleur chases points/plays to early in games and it comes back to haunt him sometimes. the NFCCG is one example. If the Packers would have kicked the extra point and only been down 7 rather than 8 I believe some different play calls would have been made during the final Packers 1st and goal series. Being down by 7 is a lot different than being down by 8 and having already failed on a 2 point conversion and multiple goal line plays. One of those play calls should have been handing off to Dillion on the 1st down RPO rather than passing. The other different play call would have been going for it on 4th down. In addition I think Rodgers runs for it on third down. The missed 2 point conversion in the 3rd quarter played a big role in the thought process of both LaFleur and Rodgers in the goal line situation. The Packers had to believe they may not make a 2 point conversion, thus needing the ball twice and the time/TOs to complete two scoring drives.

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    2. Howard September 16, 2021

      Rebelgb, we will find out if the Packers can compete against the likes of SF in another week. In addition we will also know if the Packers can compete against playoff teams from last year such as LA, Seattle, Washington, KC, Cleveland, Pittsburg, Chicago(2), and Baltimore before the regular season is over. The Packers already failed miserable against one of last years playoff teams. The regular season schedule that the Packers will play will determine if this years Packers can even make the Playoffs, let alone beat a top team. This years schedule will let us know what the Packers are made of before the playoffs. Good or bad.

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      1. Mick September 16, 2021

        Good points Howard. Rodgers admits that the team struggles against teams that employ the cover-2 defense and the best way to attack that is to force the opponent to respect the run. They need to have more patience there and that can be tough once the other team gets a 3 score lead. Panic sets in and that plays right into the cover-2 scheme. You’re right, the defense just doesn’t have the horses, or the scheme—— or both.

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  15. PF4L September 15, 2021

    Good post Rebel….
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    There is not one thing, Rodgers off-season, 30 players not playing pre-season each games, it was too hot, etc, to explain away that shit performance.
    By all accounts, Rodgers was hitting on all 12 cylinders in camp, didn’t matter.
    Just goes to show that camp performance, pre-season game performance (if any) does not reflect where a player is, or where the team is, until tested in the reality of the regular season.
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    But the actual game performance was so bad A-Z, that thinking of reasons why they lost is in essence, being somewhat apologetic to the team.
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    In reality, we as Packer fans, didn’t even think, or fathom, a possible performance like that coming from the Packers was even possible. That’s how bad it really was. I think everyone would agree with that.
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    Rebel…when Rodgers found (rare) a receiver open to find a rhythm, he was off, way off sometimes.
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    If ya’ll remember, the Tampa Bay Bucs regular season game last season and this Saints game were similar in the fact that neither the Bucs nor the Saints blitzed match, it was a 4 man rush mostly. Hell, i saw a 3 man rush against our 5 and they still got pressure.
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    If you have 7 in coverage, and they play you tight, you’ll see what you saw in the 1st 3 quarters of week 1
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    These teams are smart enough to know that if you blitz Rodgers, he’ll most likely cut you up.

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  16. PF4L September 16, 2021

    Doing what i do…i ran across Jared Cooks name and it got me to thinking….
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    This guy may be the 2nd biggest bargain this season.
    I say this because the Patriots snapped up Hunter Henry in free agency.
    Personally i think the Patriots clearly over reached on him in regards to money vs production.
    That’s going off script for the Patriots. But they were sitting on some cash, and maybe a little desperate for talent.
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    So… that instantly made Cook the focal point at tight end for the Chargers and Justin Herbert.
    Don’t be shocked if Cook outproduces Henry this season or comes close at 12.3 million dollars less money.

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    1. PF4L September 16, 2021

      We could end the cold war, but we can’t fix a glitch in comment section.
      smh
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      4 plus months now….FIX IT!!

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    2. Mick September 16, 2021

      Yup, I think the Pats had to do something to help the passing game cause their receivers aren’t anything special. That makes decision making on the desperate side, which is not Belichick—-esque. I’m still baffled that we didn’t retain Cooks who made the catch of the year against Dallas in the playoffs a few years back. He’s still balling and seems to have longevity, but nnnnooooo— we did the unthinkable and spent bucco bucks on an over-hyped, past his prime and injured J. Graham. They could have signed Cooks for a fraction of what they wasted on Graham. (Packer way;;;;?!?!?)

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      1. PF4L September 16, 2021

        In hindsight Mick, not bringing back Cook initiated a lot of bad moves in free agency with the signing of Bennett and Graham, not to mention the expense and Bennett’s SJW drama he brought to this team.
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        Was that Teds fault? Might very well be. But we have to acknowledge that we don’t know what happened in the dynamics of negotiations between Ted, Russ, and Cooks agent. Clearly Ted wanted to make a loud statement to Cooks agent, but it came at a cost.
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        The ship could have been righted by going after Cook again, but Gute thought the right move was kick Nelson to the curb and sign Graham.
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        Turn the page and we later find the Packers continually using 3rd round picks on tight ends. Not too mention paying too much money for someone who mostly just blocks.
        I know everyone seems to have an infatuation with Lewis, but production wise, how does he justify the millions spent on him?
        Yes, he can block, but trust me, i’ve also saw him whiff on blocking
        I mean, can we be honest?
        Since the 2018 season Lewis has caught 29 passes for 321 yards and 4 TD’s? Are you fucking kidding me?
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        After this season, the Packers will have paid him 10.5 million. Not bad for part time minimal work.
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        Then we have the Sternberger and Dequara experiments.
        Both who have been “crowned” by some already, with Dequara being hyped as a multi purpose player who will open up the Packers offense and give a defense fits. Yadda fucking yadda..
        Multi purpose player is todays fancy name for a player who is undersized, a tweener.
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        But for various multiple reasons and there are many (excuses), they can’t get on the field and contribute.
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        Our best tight end is Robert Tonyan, who took over as the second leading TD machine next to Adams. We all hope he has a great year and gets paid (i know i do).
        But one season does not a career make, he has to keep it going and keep producing.
        But…..fuck…he’s an undrafted free agent that Ted picked up, and at least he is producing.
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        Again….Gute hasn’t gotten the job done drafting after the 2nd round.

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  17. PF4L September 16, 2021

    Washington’s Chase Young says Taylor Heinicke could start on any team in the NFL.
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    Chase Young…entering his 2nd season in the NFL.
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    Heinicke?…..Ok…God bless you brother.

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    1. Tom M September 17, 2021

      And how many years in the NFL do you have PF4L? Taylor Heinicke is no Kurt Benkert that’s for sure. I’ll take Chase Young’s elevation over yours when it comes to QB’s. If I were you, I’d stick to catch rates and pitch counts. That’s your specialty. QB’s not so much. If Aaron Rodgers had played like Taylor Heinicke did list night, we win the game against the Saints.

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      1. PF4L September 17, 2021

        Stop bullying!!!…or, or or….I”LL TELL!!
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        LMAO

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  18. Tom M September 16, 2021

    Aaron Rodgers went on Pat McAfee and said the reason he threw his first INT was because he got hit in the nuts. Really? Cuz I thought the reason is because he forced the ball to Davante Adams and threw into double coverage. I’m quite certain that’s not the way Matt LaFleur drew that one up. If you’ll recall, that was my biggest concern coming into the season. That Rodgers would force the ball to his Scottie Pippin because he’s in a contract year. And sure enough. Don’t worry ladies, they’ll be plenty more of those INT’s in the future.

    I’ve heard you girls blame everyone from Brian Gutekunst to Royce Newman and everyone in between for Sunday’s shit show. Aaron Rodgers, not so much. Even the comically stupid PF4L proclaiming that Josh Myers has a “flaw in the way he hikes the ball.” This astute player evaluation coming from the girl who told you camp arm Kurt Benkert would make the 53. Or that Jordan Love was a bust because he got no reps or games last year and was third string. Even giving us such worthless information as pitch counts on defense players. You do understand it was 84 degrees Sunday and no one played in preseason. Of course your going to be on a pitch count when your GOAT, your Michael Jordan, repeatedly goes three and out in the first half. Then quickly makes up for it by throwing INT’s in the second half.

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    1. Ed September 16, 2021

      I’ll bet, when you were a kid, you got beat up
      at recess a lot, by kids younger and smaller than you.
      Now, from the safety of the internet you’re the tuff-guy.
      You’re sure showing those kids.

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    2. PF4L September 16, 2021

      Princess….I said…(and everyone knows it) that the Packers would keep 3 QB’s this season…ASSWIPE.
      Nobody is falling for your bullshit anymore, you’ve been exposed and then some.
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      Last i checked the Packers have 3 QB’s under contract.
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      Now….tell us more about when you proclaimed that Mark Murphy was a NFLPA attorney…
      In what years was that?
      How long did he hold that position?
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      C’mon little man, don’t be shy. Show everyone…..how smart you are.
      Or…in this case…what a C**t you are.

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    3. PF4L September 16, 2021

      “Even the comically stupid PF4L proclaiming that Josh Myers has a “flaw in the way he hikes the ball.” – The keyboard coward
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      I didn’t say when he hiked the ball.
      I didn’t proclaim it, i asked if anyone else SAW IT. which i guess nobody did. Oh Well, life goes on. For us anyway…lol
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      I said…a he had a quirk when he was in shotgun. If you don’t understand what you are reading, please, by all means…have somebody in your trailer park help you to understand it.

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    4. MMSUCKS September 16, 2021

      You have animus inside of your animus . . .WTF is wrong with you? So now we have to continue to deal with you? Just another misanthropic cunt? Until you finally just go away because no-one want’s to deal with a broken-record schadenfreudist? So much for the blogosphere and logical debate. If you weren’t so bad with your obsession against Rodgers, it would be tolerable. But your fuzzy logic (varying degrees of truth! NOT truth), non-sequitur s, misquotes, conflating, and downright shameful Packer shilling and homer-isms are quite off-putting. Logically, you are so far out of the box that you are not even in the same orbit of rational ideation . . . Please. Just. Go. Back. To. Your. Safe. Spot.

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      1. Tom M September 16, 2021

        And the three stooges have spoken. “Your animus inside your animus?” I can’t stop laughing! You probably should see a doctor about that! And no Ed, never got beat up as a kid. But then my classmates had a higher IQ than what you’ll find around here. Which isn’t saying much. By all means, don’t let me stop the circle jerk of love for Aaron Rodgers while you simultaneously tell each other how smart you are. Look, if you don’t like what I say, then don’t comment. I’ll continue to comment on what I see. I don’t look at Aaron Rodgers thru rose colored classes. He has to be held to a higher standard. When your paid the best, when you compare yourself to the best, and then you don’t perform that way. Then you should be the first to be scrutinized. It sure as hell shouldn’t be someone like Royce Newman, or pitch counts, or whatever horse shit you had to say about Josh Myers.

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        1. MMSUCKS September 17, 2021

          Tom! When I wrote; “Your animus inside your animus” I was clearly “waxing poetic”! So sorry that this went OVER YOUR HEAD! If you took that literally, and NOT metaphorically (which, just by reading your posts is NOT a stretch by any degree) then your critical thing skills are sadly, at a very low level. The old adage comes to mind . . . If you were stupid, would you know it? Clearly, this seems to fall at your feet TOM M . . .

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          Again, hypothetical’s. I’ve NEVER spoken of Josh Meyers. You just quantified my previous post. Whatever your “animus” is regarding Rodgers, stay the FUCK out of our lanes. I have never been an advocate for all things “Rodgers” ask PF4L, he will quantify that, If you just want to troll, troll away then asshat, but leave me out of your insipid drivel.

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          And this constant “girl” or “girlie” fixation? WTF? Lol! Then circle jerk? Again, WTF? Lol! The vernacular alone places you somewhere in the middle grade school mindset . . . Arrested development perhaps? If not, you are definitely trending that way.

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          1. PF4L September 17, 2021

            Tom M September 16, 2021
            By all means, don’t let me stop the circle jerk of love for Aaron Rodgers
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            PF4L September 16 2021
            Tom, do you participate in circle jerks?
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            Tom M September 16, 2021
            Sometimes, it depends how many of my brothers are around, if not, than i just set up a bunch of mirrors.

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  19. PF4L September 16, 2021

    Princess talked about me in his post, even more than he talked about Rodgers
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    In a way that makes me and Aaron Rodgers roommates.
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    We both live in that losers head. :)

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  20. PF4L September 16, 2021

    Tommy’s Obsession…PART 1
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    Tom M September 16, 2021
    Aaron Rodgers went on Pat McAfee and said
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    Tom M july 5, 2021
    According to Ed Rodgers….
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    KILLER May 1, 2021
    Have no fear. Aaron Rodgers has always been all talk.
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    Tom M May 2, 2021
    No. And little Aaron threw a fit. Give the baby his bottle….
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    PF4L May 3, 2021
    Ok…where do you live?
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    Tom M June 5, 2021
    You haven’t been critical of Aaron Rodgers ever!
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    PF4L June 5, 2021
    Now Tommy…..how would you know i haven’t been critical of Rodgers….ever?
    How long have you been on this site, since May?
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    Tom M June 3, 2021
    Rejoice ladies! Aaron Rodgers wants you….
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    PF4L June 3, 2021
    Relax Drama Queen….
    Do you have any other football thoughts outside of your Rodgers obsession?
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    Tom M June 3, 2021
    I for one say we should petition for a name change for this website to “Total Rodgers”.
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    PF4L June 3, 2021
    Why?…because it’s all you talk about?
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    PF4L June 5, 2021
    Grab a mirror…Tommy, meet killer.
    There, now you both have a friend.
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    Tom M June 5, 2021
    Killer is right. Rodgers is gay. Anyone who thinks Shailene Woodley is “hot” is into dudes himself.
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    Killer June 5, 2021
    “Rodgers panty sniffing babies…”
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    Tom M June 14, 2021
    Aaron Rodgers is not…
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    Tom M June 17, 2021
    PF4L, the sweetest of Templeton’s. In a lifetime you couldn’t match my education or my salary.
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    PF4L June 17, 2021
    That statement alone you just made is ludicrous on it’s face.
    We both know one thing for damn sure…nobody in here would piss on you if you were on fire.
    They’d wait until the fire was out.
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    Tom M July 23, 2021
    Rodgers isn’t the only one here that can hold a grudge. The fans have had it.
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    PF4L July 24, 2021
    Yea…take that…Rodgers!!
    You’ve been told son!
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    Tom M August 1, 2021
    And look how right you were PF4L
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    PF4L August 1, 2021
    I was talking to Joe.
    If i wanted to hear from your sausage gullet, i’d drop a nickel in you.
    Go leech on to someone else to get attention.
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    Tom M August 3, 2021
    And I’m talking to you sweetheart.
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    PF4L August 3, 2021
    Don’t confuse the words talking…and “obsessing”
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    Jason Parker August 1, 2021
    I disabled that annoying “like” thing
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    PF4L August 1, 2021
    You banned Tom?
    ***************
    Still a problem JP.
    Well….i guess it’s still two problems.
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    Tom M August 4, 2021
    Are we here to talk football or healthcare?
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    PF4L August 4, 2021
    You tell us what we’re hear to talk about Gomer.
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    Tom M August 4, 2021
    Sure, just as soon as I’m finished with you mom
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    PF4L August 4, 2021
    Interesting….
    Just curious, how long did it take you to dig her up?

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    1. Kiler September 17, 2021

      I see I live in your head, Piffle. That is good. That is good for you. My presence in your skull can only serve to increase your IQ.

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      1. PF4L September 17, 2021

        Living in my head Lonely Boy?…lol
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        The only thing you’re known for in here is being the unwanted viking troll who won’t go away.
        What’s it been…5,6 years now?
        I mean…has it helped?…are you less lonely now?
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        Do any of us troll viking fan sites? Ah….i don’t think so…lol
        But…we also don’t trick or treat anymore, or sit on Santa’s lap at Xmas time.
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        But your different, maybe that’s why you are described as “special”.

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      2. Ferris September 17, 2021

        You spelled your own name wrong asshat Kiler. Jesus.

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        1. PF4L September 17, 2021

          Kiler…:)
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          That would be like scoring 2 on the wonderlic test.
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          Hell, Vince Young scored better than that.

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  21. PF4L September 17, 2021

    Tom M September 14, 2021
    And maybe Aaron Rodgers can play like a franchise QB.
    Look at his last 13 seasons. He’s been a below average to average QB, but everyone wants to fluff him up as being some HOF franchise QB?
    Sorry, i’m way to educated to ever believe that.
    I never saw that.

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    1. PF4L September 17, 2021

      But….you saw Mark Murphy when he was a NFLPA attorney.
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      Isn’t that right Scooter?
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      Please tell us more about that.
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      Educate us…..Kitty

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  22. PF4L September 17, 2021

    Killer July 31, 2021
    Not “save safe”. I meant “save face”.
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    Killer July 31, 2021
    Not “save safe.” I meant to write “save face.”
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    PF4L July 31, 2021
    He meant to write…”save face”. Not “save safe”.
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    PF4L July 31, 2021
    He meant…”save face”. Not “save safe”.
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    Just want to clear that up for you Tommy.
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    Tom M July 31, 2021
    I did mess that one up, thanks

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    1. KILLER September 17, 2021

      I see that I am alive and well inside your unwell brain. My presence, even if only in spirit, can only serve to increase your IQ.

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      1. PF4L September 17, 2021

        Are you just trying to “save safe”?

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  23. PF4L September 17, 2021

    Tom M August 2, 2021
    He’ll have some rust not playing for two years but it’s going to be interested in seeing what we have in the 22 yr old QB over these coming preseason games.
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    PF4L August 2, 2021
    “…….. but it’s going to be interested in seeing what we have in the 22 yr old QB over these coming preseason games.”
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    Grammar is hard people!
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    In these trying times of the pandemic concerning the kids attending school.
    Lets do everything we can to get all the kids back in school.
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    I think it’s been proven above, that shoddy home schooling doesn’t work.
    Plus the additional anti social personality’s disorders often go hand in hand.
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    Kids…Stay in school.

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  24. Tom M September 17, 2021

    I just have one question PF4L. Am I your new obsession? (Sorry Aaron!) Because you sure as shit can’t stop talking about me! Post after mindless post, your either quoting me, talking about pitch counts, catch rates, or some imaginary flaw Josh Myers has that only you can see! What player evaluation will be on your radar this week that you may discern and enlighten the humble masses? Stay on the cutting edge my friend….

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    1. KILLER September 17, 2021

      Piffle is an online bully. He is the Trump of this site, though not as senile or psychotic. (See, Piffle, I do give you your due with things like “Not as much of an ass as Trump.”) So, he tried to crush others, especially if they have a lot to say, like him. He floods the zone with post after post after post hoping some of what he says somehow sticks.

      Anyway, don’t take it personal, he is an ass to anyone who disagrees with him. Those who agree and are servile do just fine, though they no longer have the manhood.

      The true key is that Piffle is the biggest Rodgers pantie sniffer ever all-time. You cannot say anything bad about Rodgers because Piffle fears losing out on the latest stinky Rodgers panties. I’m not sure who he’ll move on to next year. Jordan Love, I guess. That’s a tip but I don’t think you fear his wrath anyway, nor should you. Keep your balls!

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      1. PF4L September 17, 2021

        AWE….Tommy and killer appear together, crying about PF4L.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puwoUKhZQbg
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        JP…”PF4L is being a bully, i don’t deserve it, i’ve been nothing but an angel on this website!!” – Tommy
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        “Piffle is a online bully… – KILLER
        AWE….it’s cute watching you cry in here.
        “Piffle is fucking with someone who fucks with him and disrespects others in here”
        “waa…waa..waa..waaa..waaa…HELP!!…HELP!!.” – Killer
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        Pssttt….Killer…DO THIS…..write to JP, and tell him how sad and teary eyed this makes you.
        Let us know how it goes ok my friend.
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        Why is “Piffle” a bully? Because he’s “giving it back” to somebody who obsesses about him and treats others in here like shit?
        Lets stone that fucker to death!!
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        Gee Lonely Boy….Why weren’t you saying Killer (oops Tommy) was a Bully when he harassed others …talking sexually about their Moms and sisters, telling guys in here they like to suck mens dicks, or bringing up Rodgers smelly panties for the 50th time, etc,etc,etc.
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        Where were you then? Agreeing with him? AH….i see
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        But NOW…you want to defend him/yourself.
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        Trivia……
        What TWO people in here have these two traits in common?
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        1) Both despise and obsess over their Rodgers hate.
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        2) Both insist on staying in here even when they know they are not wanted.
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        GEE…what a fucking coincidence….lol
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        In closing L B, are you Tommy’s Daddy?….let (Tommy) fight his own battles.
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        Just switch usernames.
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        Just so you Ivy League educated geniuses understand….
        In this site, when others in here tell you to go away, ridicule you, express their despise and disgust to you, call you a cunt (gulp)
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        THAT isn’t code for…….Welcome, or stay awhile and entertain is with your fictional tales. Or ask me about my Mom and sisters sexual talents.
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        Now…when you’ve dried all the tears away, after your mama tells you to put on your big boy pants and you’ve gotten all that hurt and sadness out of your system.
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        We still want to know all about when Mark Murphy was a NFLPA attorney.
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        Tommy?

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    2. Killer September 17, 2021

      Piffle is an online bully. He is the Trump of this site, though not as senile or psychotic. (See, Piffle, I do give you your due with things like “Not as much of an ass as Trump.”) So, he tried to crush others, especially if they have a lot to say, like him. He floods the zone with post after post after post hoping some of what he says somehow sticks.

      Anyway, don’t take it personal, he is an ass to anyone who disagrees with him. Those who agree and are servile do just fine, though they no longer have the manhood.

      The true key is that Piffle is the biggest Rodgers pantie sniffer ever all-time. You cannot say anything bad about Rodgers because Piffle fears losing out on the latest stinky Rodgers panties. I’m not sure who he’ll move on to next year. Jordan Love, I guess. That’s a tip but I don’t think you fear his wrath anyway, nor should you. Keep your balls!

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  25. PF4L September 17, 2021

    “Why not try to get him as healthy as possible so we can have him more readily available … hopefully,” LaFleur said, indicating that the team would rather try to let Z’s back fully heal rather than play cat and mouse with the nagging injury.
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    Good idea….but that thinking is about a week too late Matty.
    Why did he play against the Saints when he was a no go in last Fridays practice and limited (no contact) in Wed and Thur. practice last week?
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    Side note….on that would be sack…did he look hurt?
    He didn’t look hurt at all, from what i saw, all 18 snaps.

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    1. PF4L September 17, 2021

      Oh shit…..are we still in killer and Tommys emotional mental breakdown episode?
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      Sorry about the football post.
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      GET BETTER GUYS!!….YAY:)

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  26. Ferris September 17, 2021

    Killer and Tom…like Milli Vanilli. A pair that keeps embarrassing themselves.

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  27. Joefan September 20, 2021

    Its too early to tell where the packers will end up this year. I do think the loss points again to the decisions made by gutenkunst over the past several years. Theres not much defensive improvement. Its another blowout loss where the packers can’t stop the run and get blow out on the defensive line. How many more excuses can be made? The fact is that its a massive weakness and the packers will have to live with it as its too late to fix. If they make the playoffs they will most likely lose again.

    Back to rodgers, is this all his fault? A lot of people seem to think so. Keep in mind that rodgers reported to training camp on time. He missed preseason but that was a coaching decision, which now looked to be a mistake. The only offseason activity he missed was mini camp so thats what we should be talking about, but no one is. Instead people are stating as fact that rodgers offseason drama ruined the team even though he reported to camp on time and would’ve had the same practice experience hes had every year with the exception of mini camps. Also every offseason in green bay is filled with some drama. Last year was Jordan love and the year before everyone said he and Lafleur wouldn’t get along. How much of this actually matters?

    The facts are that the offense is worse this year with two rookies on the offensive line. And the defense could be as bad as ever. King should’ve never be re-signed even on the one year deal. The packers are going to struggle while the rookies get up to speed.

    Overall I’m not hopeful though at least if you want to see a superbowl. The 2020 draft is looking to be gutenkunsts worst drafts so far. Jordan love is almost a separate topic but again he can’t help the team this year so in my view it’s a waste. Dillon and deguara are role players. Kamal Martin was already cut after one season. Stepaniak retired. And the rest are backups or role players. The packers got nothing out of that draft.

    Gutenkunst has already had 4 off seasons and drafted a couple good players and signed a few more. Most of the star players on the team are still Thompson picks. I really don’t want to see a ten year run with gutenkunst. Basically forget about linebacker ever being good. And people keep saying there’s no salary cap which is true but thats because of gutenkunst. He gave Lowry a 20 million contract in 2019 which should’ve never happened. He just gave king 5 million for this year. That Lowry contract probably hurt the most and is now added with void years.

    You can’t make those kind of decisions and get away with it. The packers were lucky to have no impact players from the 2020 draft and still make the nfc championship game. That luck will run out at some point.

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