The Packers travel to Detroit today to hopefully secure better seeding going into the playoffs. With a win, they’ll at least have the #2 seed. With a loss, unless the Saints also lose, they’ll have a #3 seed. With a win, and a 49ers loss, the Packers will miraculously be the #1 seed in the NFC. Superstar RB Marshawn Lynch is making a return for the Seahawks/49ers game so be sure to check it out tonight — it will be an interesting game to watch.
I think we might see some experimentation later in this game as preparation for the playoffs. Mostly likely some more action for our tight ends and some more experimentation with play action(although powerhouse RB2 Jamaal Williams is listed as doubtful). Packers’ tackling game was on point last week, as well as the rest of its defense. Meanwhile, the Lions have one of the weakest defenses in the league. Seems like a great opportunity for game-time experimentation once a comfortable lead is established.
A Few Things You Should Know:
Packers lead the regular-season series against Detroit, 99-72-7 (.576)
With 12 wins, Head Coach Matt LaFleur is tied for the fifth most wins by an NFL head coach in their first season (Jim Caldwell and George Seifert had 14 and Jim Harbaugh and Steve Mariucci had 13)
Green Bay has 12 sacks over the last three games, the most in the league over that span
Packers CB Tony Brown was released yesterday – Brown was a bit of a wild card, but I doubt the move was entirely disciplinary. The more important question is who are they making room for.
Packers G Lucas Patrick had his contract extended yesterday
The Lions will be without their QB1, Matthew Stafford due to a back injury – former Purdue backup QB David Blough will take over his duties
As mentioned above, this is still a game worth winning — despite the fact that the Packers have clinched the NFC North division
Ford Field in Detroit is a domed stadium so weather should not be much of a factor
Statistical Comparison Between Packers and Lions:
Packers Injury Report:
NFL on Fox Broadcast Map:
Here is the current playoff picture:
Game Information:
When: Sunday – December 29th 12:00 PM CT
Where: Ford Field (Detroit, MI)
Television: NFL on FOX (Kevin Burkhardt, Charles Davis, and Pam Oliver)
Radio: WTMJ – Stream Live
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I’m just here so i don’t get fined.
“Merry New Year,” Marshawn Lynch.
Still dumb as a rock.
Actually, according to Aaron Rodgers, who played with Lynch at Cal. Lynch is an extremely intelligent man.
Maybe so….but then he should act like it.
In other news….i don’t know why this stuff gets me so bad, But….Condolences to Marvin Jones Jr. and his wife Jazmyn and their beautiful family, who recently announced the death of their 6 month old son Marlo.
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I can’t even imagine what they are going through. Godspeed
Saw that last night. Awful. I can’t imagine losing an infant. Based on the wording, it sounds like it was an illness he was born with possibly.
Yea…that side of it is a bit strange. Seems like the reason is being kept under wraps. Most people tell the reason for awareness. But sitting here, i sure as **** am not going to judge that . It is what it is, and no matter what, it is a tragedy.
Coming out pretty flat considering what is on the line
Im off the train again. Total horse shit!
Green Bay is shitting the bed. They cannot get off the blocks. Aaron Rodgers is sucking cock today. He’s off like I said many times this year and last. Rogers is fading PERIOD! Alexander is playing way off the receiver. This changes Green Bays playoff chances. They will get the 3rd seed and Get beaten by Minnesota because of it . . . Ugly. Ugly, ugly.
Ssshhhhh. Remember we have Aaron Rodgers fans here that will steadfastly refuse to believe Rodgers isn’t that great of a QB anymore
Yes, sshhh..keep it down. There are Aaron Rodger fans on a Packer message board. Whoda thunk it.
Hahahaha. Wtf are they doing?
Games like this make you seriously wonder if it is fixed.
So right at the end of the first half Rodgers shits the bed again on an easy pass overthrown for the third time to Aaron Jones. Then the Packers couldn’t stop a fucking second string running back? Allowing Detroit to march down the fucking field on two fucking runs! This negating the three points the Packers just got. What a fucking joke. I know PF4L defends Rodgers by saying that it is a new offense that they are learning. But that has nothing to do with the way that Aaron Rodgers is throwing wide open players balls behind them and over their heads. Something is wrong with number 12’s game and it’s NOT the new system.
You SOB’s lol….i’ve said i give no excuse for the passes behind and they piss me off. A lot of the passes too far are on him also. But the over throw to 83 was horseshit, for some reason 83 always slows up, Rodgers is going to throw to his speed. The over throw to Jones was on Rodgers, both towards the beginning of the game. I’v only paid glancing attention since then, but i did see a pass go right thru Jimmy G’s hands and Allison fumble again. But other than that, it’s a good group behind Adams.
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They are what they are…don’t go full angst yet and use up all your bitching. There will be plenty to bitch about soon, they haven’t even got in the playoffs yet.
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The only question left is….what do i want to buy myself with the Super Bowl ticket money i was saving up that i won’t need now..
You bring up a very good point, as usual, about MVS and some of the other receivers/RBs. MVS slows down when going deep. One of the reasons other than he struggles reading the coverage is MVS looks back/turns head to early on the deep go routes. By turning the head or raising your arms early you slow down. See Jeff Janis. Good and very good receivers wait to turn their head and raise their arms. They run through the ball.
I’m not going to try and say that QB#1 didn’t have some off throws yesterday, but look at some of the go routes to Ervin and Jones. They also turn their heads and raise their arms to early slowing down their speed. The small difference between overthrows and big receptions.
I don’t think the Packers are going to be able to change Jones, Ervin, and MVS habits on go routes. It will be on Rodgers and LaFleur to adjust.
Exactly, thank you Howard…as Howard illustrates, there is far more to a being a successful receiver than his 40 time or his vertical. There is also a reason that players pay up good money and go to a camp in the off season to hone their craft, to get better. Usually run by a ex NFL highly successful player at a respective position. More players attend these than one might think.
PF4L, LaFleur agrees with us also. if you get a chance you should listen to Today’s press conference with LaFleur. In the last couple of minutes one of the press asked LaFleur why all the over throws. LaFleur, in part, said some were overthrows, but some of the overthrows occurred because the receivers did not follow training. They slowed down because they looked back and did not keep pumping their arms. The small details between overthrows and big plays.
You have to run through the ball (my words).
Bye or not, they are being exposed.
Unfortunately not watching the game, stupid queens and bears game is on. But it is half here, and I tend to really respect Tony Gonzalez. He is shocked at this, and he seems to think Rodgers isn’t the same QB he was either. Can say all you want about a new offensive system, he simply isn’t good anymore, and the packers are stuck with him. No matter how you shake this, three points at half against the Lions is simply unacceptable
Jimmy Graham: The Packers organization would be getting more for their $10M by letting this guy clean the Lambeau shit splattered toilets.
Aaron Rodgers: Should be so ashamed of his play he should sell his $28M oceanside castle and give the money back to the Packers.
Dean Lowrey & Kevin King: How are they even employed in the NFL?
Dean Lowry is fine
Rodgers is looking like russ balls newest lottery ticket recipient. Right p4l?
See my post in the mansion article. Please try to keep up people.
Sorry, correction! Aaron Rodgers has now overthrown Aaron Jones four times. Instead of going for the first down, he checks out of the Play Moves his players around and then blows first down. They don’t need fucking field goals! They need fucking touchdowns.
So we’re seeing the decline of Aaron Rodgers. Overshot Davante Adams by 5 yards, then misses wide with mvs then throws behind Tonyan. I called this decline for 5 years ago. Rogers is beating and banged up and can’t deliver consistently anymore. Thanks you fucking cocksucker Ted Thompson and you stupid buffoon McCarthy for blowing this for us.
ESPN apparently keeps track of over throws. According to Demovsky, Rodgers just threw the most overthrows by ANY quarterback in any game since 2006.
And then severely underthrows Kumerow lol. Oh well, it worked out I guess.
He did lead the comeback, so he gets a participation trophy for that. Ryan Fitzpatrick led a comeback with a much worse supporting cast against a very quality defense. But Rodgers has the benefit of the doubt because he won an MVP in 2014.
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I get that this year has been great because they won 13 games, got a first round bye, when it was expected they would win 9 games best case scenario, blah blah blah. Maybe I am cynical, but I think this season and the progress made is meaningless unless they take that next step and return to the super bowl with Aaron Rodgers in the next few years. They made the decision to stick with Rodgers and give him a massive contract extension, rather than blowing things up completely and starting over, this is the reason I am maybe not as excited about this season. Because unless they have a dominant defense and a great running game, they aren’t getting to where they want to go. No one wants to admit it, but Rodgers isn’t an elite QB anymore, and barely middling, Andy Dalton of three years ago. Does anyone actually think he will improve next year, or the following year? Unless they drag his corpse there like the broncos did Peyton Manning in 2015, they aren’t winning a championship, period.
Where’s Brett Hundley when you need him, he can win a Championship. Anyone have Fitzpatrick’s number? What’s Dalton doing, waiting for the Packers to call? Gute has handed Rodgers a team that’s ready now.
I don’t know why Rodgers can’t take these receivers, and coach them up. I bet you get Russell Wilson, and automatically we have 3 pro bowlers from the group we have. Hell, lets get Tom Brady here, he’ll throw for 5,000 yards, 52 td passes against 5 picks. OOPS…..wait a second, Brady is having problems with his line and receiving core. Gee…who would have thought talent would make a difference with an ELITE QB at the helm? Funny….last time i checked Rodgers was having a better season than Brady.
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Yea…after careful thought…maybe we can snatch up Jameis Winston, he might be a free agent soon, Packer fans will love him, he throws up almost as many 50/50 balls as Favre did, he’ll fix this.
Straw man argument. Classic. You are right. Silly me, Rodgers won an MVP five years ago, about the last time Jimmy G was considered a game breaking tight end. We will give him the benefit of the doubt because he won an MVP. I can’t figure out why Rodgers ceases to function when Jordy Nelson isn’t around. It’s almost like other elite quarterbacks adjust and make due with what they have. Afterall, when they have that high salary, they are expected to a degree to make other people around them look better. It’s almost like when a player is getting paid a big contract, they are held to a certain standard in the eyes of fans. Clay Matthews, Mike Daniels, Nick Perry, ect all got shit here when they weren’t performing up to their contract. I don’t think Rodgers is immune. Give me Fitzpatrick and his contract that pays him a third of what Rodgers gets, and the rest can go to a few key pieces that are missing. Over 300 yards on the Patriots defense with a worse offensive line, Phil Laird as his running back (seriously never heard of him until a couple weeks ago) and Davante Parker along with some warm bodies at receiver, most of which I have never heard of.
Carson Wentz has literally lost his top two receivers. Seriously, go look at the box scores from the past month. I haven’t heard of any of those guys. I don’t hear him bitching and complaining, instead he put the team on his back and got it done and won out. Being a big part of the reason they won too I will add. Boston Scott, JJ Arcega Whiteside, Greg Ward…..
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I will just stop there because you will never be convinced that Rodgers is part of the problem on offense. It is worthless for me to even try to point to several examples of quarterbacks getting more out of their players than Rodgers, and in more challenging circumstances.
I didn’t read any of that because ….why waste time….i’m imagining that it contains something that would imply that receiver talent makes no difference when you have an elite QB.
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So lets parlay that into a study session…Take the 1996 and 2010 roster, then….compare them to the 2018 and 2019 roster….then TELL ME….do any differences jump out at you? Is there any sort of pattern correlating the roster, and the success of those teams?
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If you can’t find any…..then i’m just wasting my time because talent doesn’t matter and not reading your post was a good call.
Someone is awfully butthurt. TLDR: just watch Carson Wentz this weekend and you will see elite QB play. Rodgers has a better team around him at this point, and better receivers. There was never a guarantee that Rodgers would be good into his 40s. Pretty obvious that isn’t the case here. It’s fine, it was a great run of QB play
Lol….and so it goes…the enthusiasm turns…just like that. Quarter by quarter….game by game.
I am pretty done with Rodgers at this point. Another underthrow, Kumerow had his guy beat. Can’t even move on from him either because his contract. They have to draft a QB. This is over
Where’s Hundley when we need him.
Dude, there are plenty of seats on the Lions bandwagon if you are looking for a change…
Hell, there are four empty seats on the viking bandwagon…the one in front of Lonely Boy, the one behind him, and the seats on each side of him. It aint easy bein a…… killer.
I am a Packers fan before I am an Aaron Rodgers fan
SWEET!!….
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I thought i was just a Rodgers fan until one day…in deep, deep thought, i figured out that maybe i was actually a fan of the Green Bay Packers for 20 plus years…..before him. Go figure right?
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I call it my day of enlightenment.
That was more for kzoofan, since he suggested jumping on the Lions bandwagon. My point is I am not loyal to Rodgers, I am loyal to the Packers. Me suggesting I don’t think they can win a championship with Rodgers at QB anymore has nothing to do with not wanting to be a packer fan
KzooPackFan is my new version of Cheese. Cheese doesn’t come in here that much these days Which is a loss for this place.
That was only in jest. I get your frustration with Rodgers play. And he did not look good for much of yesterday’s game and the issues were similar to what we have been seeing all year. It may be due to the accumulation of injury and unwillingness to adapt, we may never know. But then he makes a throw like the TD to Lazard or even the precision on the screen to Jones and you see what he can do. I am holding out hope we see him get it together and refocus on fundamentals and extend his career 5 years a la Tom Brady (who lost yesterday, at home, to lose a first round bye! Tom Frickin’ Brady!)
He’s been frustrating this year, but I don’t think this team is 13-3 with most other QBs in the league. And I definitely still take him over David Blough, or Matt Stafford, or Kirk Cousins, or Mitch Trubisky.
I actually wouldn’t mind seeing the Packers take a flier on Trubisky if he were to become available. I am more convinced the offenses difficulties in Chicago are more offensive line related, not to mention I think Matt Nagy is an idiot. Trubisky has physical tools, can make plays outside the pocket and can run. He struggles with accuracy at times.
Trubisky is mentally fragile…stares down his first read…and his throwing mechanics are completely fucked. He is a good scrambler but that’s about it. His line isnt very good but he does nothing to help himself.
I’m no QB expert, but they say of all things accuracy is the hardest to coach / change.
That isn’t the first dumb thing you’ve read here, and it won’t be the last.
Well, a win is a win is a win! But what a shitshow today! I didn’t even agree with the last three play calls before they kicked the field goal. I thought they should have moved in even further with a couple of Dink and dunks. But that’s why they are coaches and I’m not I guess! Go Seattle! I thought I’d never say that! LOL!
Was there ever a doubt?
When will you guys learn?. It is this years team. You have to admit this years team for the most part keeps games interesting till the end. A first round playoff bye is better than missing the playoffs. Right?
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Isn’t that the truth, they’ve been frustrating to watch but you gotta love the results, I’ll take 3 more ugly wins. The whole team is unrecognizable from what we’re used to through Rodgers career but that’s what we wanted, I have to believe he can still get hot. Let’s go Shithawks!!
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Agreed Howard
Another 4th quarter comeback…Aaron Rodgers..Mr Clutch.
Sure, after throwing a pick on a terrible underthrow, then the defense forcing a quick three and out.
C’mon man!!….stop being such a downer all the time. Your team is 13-3 with a first round bye and a reason to watch the Seahawk/49 game. You can’t crack a smile for that?
This. ^^^^^ They came out flat. Coming off huge Monday night win, on the road. Again on the road. Against a team with only 3 wins. Who instead wanted to prove something. They woke the fuck up at halftime. Totally dominated the 2nd half. Shit happens. The second half almost felt inevitable. It could be way worse. Take it from me here in Lions country, you could be a Lions fan. Go Seahawks (ugh!).
There is something to be said for this Packers team fighting adversity a lot this season. It is important for a team to be able to do that. I just can’t take them remotely seriously as a championship contender with them continually laying eggs against bad teams.
And….whoever said they were a Championship Contender this season?
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Rodgers and Danica Patrick apparently went half and half on a house in California for $28 million. The Packers also kicked in an extra $14 million to his salary this year. Coincidence?
The property is in his name only apparently. Maybe she just threw him 14 million and said, why don’t you go buy us something. ‾\_(ツ)_/‾
It’s her fault he can’t play anymore. Damn morning blowies are screwing him up.
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In all seriousness, how stupid can people be to think a woman is the reason he struggles? How many people across all professions are married, or dating, and they do their jobs? That isn’t to say if there is an argument that it won’t affect you at all at work, because I have seen it before, but that isn’t the case here. He should do what makes him happy, he has earned that. People that say it’s because of the woman are people that probably can’t shut out at home distractions at work.
After the last few appalling seasons this is a fantastic turn around in year 1 of a completely new system. No one rated them? Why should we care? Packers are playing with house money for however long they have left this campaign. #GoPackGo
Yes Sir
How many times….have i gotten on my arrogant high horse and talked down to ya’ll about how the Packers couldn’t, wouldn’t, can’t ever be, 13-3 this season?
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With that said….i’d like to apologize for the hacker who got into my account and pretended they know everything. We will catch the criminal. The Security Division of totalpackers.com along with the cooperation of the CIA are working on it as we speak.
Hated the game loved the end result. The Lions were playing for pride and to salvage what they could. End result? A Packer win.
Sooo.. when are we going to blame Rodgers’ mental hang-ups on Danica trying to domesticate him?
Lol…You weren’t around back when Olivia Munn ruined the Green Bay Packers. It wasn’t Ted, it wasn’t Murphy, it wasn’t McGravy. It was that hot, spicy, kinky, lil spinner good time girl we call Olivia (who he should have married, imo).
I miss Olivia….she’s a hotty.
FKN A…That’s the one and only good thing Mordecai ever did on here, put up hot pictures of Olivia.
As you can tell by the comments, i was quite the Mordecai fan
https://totalpackers.com/2016/06/kobe-bryant-moving-aaron-rodgers-lady/
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I hope for snow and cold in the playoffs.
Because except for Cousins who the Packers can contain, the snow and cold might bring the other playoff QBs down to Rodgers level. He’s the Packers weakness. Otherwise, it’s going to be a division round slaughter at home.
I don’t necessarily disagree, although the defense giving up big plays is a concern as well, and Jaire Alexander being up and down. if the Packers want to win a playoff game, Rodgers has to play at a high level. I don’t see that happening
Im back on board! Three more wins till Lombardi comes home! Three more wins and Danica gets a Packers SB champs tramp stamp.
Welcome back!
Can’t complain a bit. Anyone suppose McBiscuits and Gravy watched this season closely?
Green Bay to win the NFC and not have to play NO, SF or Seattle. Be big Viking and Philadelphia fans everyone!
Iggles could be a dark horse team. So banged up, but they are very well coached, their QB is playing well, and they are good in the trenches
Someone may want to tell the Seahawks to cover the fullback out of the backfield. I don’t understand why the Seahawks struggle with that. I though KJ Wright and Bobby Wagner were pretty solid?
Watching the Seahawks in this game reminds me of the Packers post 2014. It is hard to sustain success in this league. They have the QB, but they just haven’t been able to replace talent that has departed. Does this team win more than 6 games without Wilson?
Russel Wilson is outstanding. Can’t believe how close he got them to the W. Not really sure what happened with that delay of game penalty. So costly.
I would shit a load if the Seahawks came back and won this. Maybe they put Lynch out wide right and have him run a post just like he did in 2014 NFCCG with…wait for it…Sam Barrington defending him, or pretending to. Needless to say Barrington didn’t see much of an NFL field after that.
What an ugly way to lose, So many chances, so many mishap
Everyone saw John Lynch at the end of the game. that’s the passion of a winner. I know i repeat it, but Championship caliber teams are built from the top down.
Also helps they had several top 5 picks, and got a random from the bears to drop down a single draft slot. Let’s not forget the big contract they gave Vikings great Jerrick McKinnon a big contract that will end up paying him $18 million to not even take a single snap for them. Let’s see them sustain success for more than a couple years before crowning them a “winner.”
WTF did i write Kato?…….”that’s the passion OF A WINNER”. Learn to fucking read before you put words in my mouth. You’ve been doing this shit for years. If you can’t comprehend what you’re reading, have someone help you.
Yes…it did help the 9ers Kato….Did it help Ted Thompson to be in the last 6 drafts? No…you still have to put the right team together. Having resources is a start, how many resources have the Packers pissed away?
Having resources looks to be working better for Lynch and the 9ers, than for Dorsey and the Browns,,,the Browns had a shitload of draft picks and almost unending salary cap cash and that got them where? WHERE?
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Results matter Kato.
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Now go away for awhile until you can make an intelligent debate.
Two. Fucking. Inches.
Plus the Bobby Wagner holding PI that was NOT even reviewed . . . That was egregious.
Correction, Warner! Not Wagner! Lol!
Pack could still end up hosting NFC title game. Seattle could easily go to San Fran and win in the other division game.
The best draw for the Packers is as the #2 seed. Packers probably get Saints in first game. I don’t know what the weather will be like, but it will take going back a few years to see the last time the Saints played in as cold of temperatures. Brees is a great QB, but he has had issues with gripping a cold or wet ball.
I also agree the best chance for any team to beat SF early is the Seahawks. If the Packers were the #1 seed they would have seen SF in the first game. Shanahan right now is like LaFleur’s older brother. Shanahan will kick the shit out of LaFleur if LaFleur gives Shanahan any lip, no matter where they play.
I don’t see Seattle beating Philly on the road
I don’t know? The Seahawks are 7-1 this year on the road, including a week 12 win at the Eagles.
My 2 cents…
The pass offense was bogged down by drops and overthrows. AR was noticeably inaccurate, and on top of that, for 3 quarters the WRs and Aaron Jones colluded to not catch whatever was delivered on target.
Gutekunst seems to have predicted the future, as the guys he just signed ended up playing significant snaps due to injuries to the starters. Lucas Patrick and Jared Vehldeer played well, I’m glad we have them as depth. That has been an issue for a lot of years with TT.
Tyler Ervin changed my entire perception about our return game. Used to think it was mostly a blocking issue, not that we did not have capable returners. Then this guy comes and gains positive yardage on punts, and nice kick returns as if the blocking were perfect.
Excellent point on the play of Patrick and Vehldheer in the 2nd half. In the past we would have been toast with two backup linemen having to play. Or maybe the Lions d-line is really bad. Probably some of both, but they new we were passing and we were still able to be effective.
And Tyler Ervin has been a real surprise. The fact he is also getting some snaps on offense shows he is impressing the coaching staff all week.
The fact we’re going to Ervin shows us what we have behind Adams. Rodgers went to Ervin on 3rd down. Nothing against Ervin, but that speaks volumes about our receiving core.
So I follow a FFL ‘expert’ who also happens to be a Vikings fan. So he also posts about them. Viking fans are all worked up about our right tackle getting an early jump in the 2nd half on shotgun snaps and not being penalized for a false start. I noticed a couple of times what looked like him going into his pass block set a half beat early. Did GB get a break on those or is that something happening in other games?
I thought I saw Bulaga get off early shortly after Lindsey went out, I think it was either on a big first down or TD can’t remember, but it wasn’t challenged or reviewed so never really thought about it again. How pathetic are queen fans haha I couldn’t imagine being beat down for so long that I just went site to site obsessing about another team, poor damaged fucks haha
Every NFL player worth anything, looks for an edge. If Bulaga can do that, and not get flagged, i could care less what some whiny little purple fuck thinks.
Right. That’s why you see competent defensive backs test refs early on to see how much contact they can get away with
What ever happened to Total Packers commentator “Big Gay Clay”? Miss that dude.
I always liked Amendola. I like him even more now. Thank you A. So we played the worrst pas defense? Showed right? Last two seasons were much more relaxed for me knowing mini Mike would fuck up. Now my blood pressure is up again much to high. But I don’t mind winning ugly til we get that Bowl.
Sugar?
Matt Patricia and his OC were like:
-Hey, Matt, I have this trick play that never works in our practices, and we have not used it on a live game…
-Nah, who would fall for that crap …
-It’s the Packers’ pass D, coach…
-OK, let’s call it!
Those effin Lions managed to pull off a trick play a game on us.
I don’t know? The Seahawks are 7-1 this year on the road, including a week 12 win at the Eagles.
Oops meant for Kato.
I just feel the eagles are the hotter team at the moment, and Carson Wentz is playing some really good football despite the receiver position being decimated with injuries.