Game Day: Packers at Kansas City Chiefs – Week 8
Head coach Matt LaFleur will take his of wily group of youngsters(and also Aaron Rodgers) on the road for the first of two back-to-back road games against AFC opponents. While, at this point in the season, this is not really a must-win for the Packers, they’re in the tough NFC North division and could use some extra breathing room over 2nd ranked Minnesotta Vikings(who also will face the Chiefs on November 3rd).
A Few Things to Know:
Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes is officially ruled out from participating. Now pray for his recovery before they face the Vikings next week(highly unlikely though). In his place will be Matt Moore, who, at the age of 35, only has 30 career starts.
Also out for the Chiefs is LT Eric Fisher, LG Andrew Wylie, DL Chris Jones, DE Frank Clark and CB Kendall Fuller. They’re a really banged up team at the moment and this will obviously work the Packers’ advantage.
Kansas City is ranked 29th in the league at rushing yards allowed with an average of 148.9 yards per game. Expect to see Packers RBs Aaron Jones and Jamaal Williams to be heavily utilized. This is also going to open up opportunities for Aaron Rodgers’ young group of receivers down field.
Another discrepancy between the teams is that the Packers are ranked 4th for Penalty yards per game while the Chiefs are ranked 26th. This is an impressive stat for Green Bay considering it is a new offense for the team as well as a very young team overall.
The Green Bay Packers played the Kansas City Chiefs in Super Bowl I
Ian Rapoport provided an update on the status of S Darnell Savage and LB Blake Martinez:
For the late game facing #Chiefs QB Matt Moore, #Packers S Darnell Savage (ankle) is a game-time decision but optimistic he’ll go. Meanwhile, NFL’s leading tackler Blake Martinez, dealing with wrist and hand injuries and questionable, should play as well, barring a setback.
— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) October 27, 2019
According to Adam Schefter, WR Davante Adams is highly unlikely to participate, but this should not come as a surprise to those following the situation:
Packers’ WR Davante Adams, listed as doubtful for Sunday night vs. the Chiefs due to turf toe, is not expected to play, per sources. But Adams is likely to return next week at the Los Angeles Chargers, per source.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) October 27, 2019
The Chiefs and the Packers are #1 and #2, respectively, for yards after the catch:
Source: some reddit nerd
Game Information:
Game Time: 8:20 PM Eastern Time
Location: Arrowhead Stadium – Kansas City, Missouri
Television: NBC
Stream Online: fuboTV (Affiliate)
Sep 5, 2019; Chicago, IL, USA; Green Bay Packers running back Aaron Jones (33) rushes the ball against Chicago Bears inside linebacker Roquan Smith (58) during the second half at Soldier Field. Mike DiNovo-USA TODAY Sports
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I guess it’s about time i made good on why i thought this was a winnable game for the Pack. Yes, there are also reasons they could lose, but i will be ignoring those this week.
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I could mention the obvious, Mahomie being out. Their starting left tackle and a guard being out. Clark being out. The Chiefs run defense giving up 149 YPG. The fact we might (could) see the return of the Smith brothers tonight (about time). The Packers need a good game defensively to reverse the current trend for obvious reasons.
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Arrowhead is a tough place to play, citing the noise which makes it difficult. So communication is going to be key. So is jumping out to a lead trying to keep the crowd quiet.
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But when all is said and done, and i have to pick a team this game. I’ll roll with Rodgers. Plus, unless the defense shits the bed, i just don’t see the Chiefs scoring more than 14,15 points. Which is exactly what the defense needs.
GAME DAY: DA BEARS!
The key to this game will be containing Travis Kelce. Green Bay’s biggest weakness lately has been the middle. If Matt Moore can get in a rhythm with Kelce, the whole game could change. Kelce is that good. A lot of things will figure into this, will Savage play? will Martinez play? If Savage plays, how long before the rust falls off? If the middle opens up, then the safeties must adjust, when they do, look for the long ball to Hill. If the Packers game plan for stopping Kelce at the line, this could be an easier win for Green Bay, if not? . . . Rodgers should have a decent time in the pocket to throw tonight. Furthermore, Jones and Williams will have a much easier time with a depleted K C D line. This game is going to be very interesting. Lots of potential for a blowout for the Packers, but more importantly, some opportunities for K C to go right up the middle as well, which as I mentioned earlier could get ugly for the whole game.
I know it sounds simple, but take Kelce (their strength) out of the game.
It should be, trusting that they will scheme him out of the game somehow.
GB 15-1 year….the 1 was KC and the neckbeard. Cassel was hurt. Romeo Crennel was the coach. They were a 7-9 team.
We all remember….Cmon Matty L….show Fat Ass Andy (Father of the Century) how a rookie HC beats his ass.
This game is night and day without Mahomie. If you claim to have a better defense this year and Rodgers and company starting to get it together on offense. This game should be highly winnable, period. If Moore beats you, imagine what Mahomie would have done.
The Chiefs STs can be an important factor in giving the Chiefs short fields and points. The Chiefs STs need to be controlled, and the Packers have not been good on STs.
The Packers offense has improved every week. One poor stat for the Packers offense is 3 and out drives. The Packers are 27th ranked in that category. Let’s see if LaFleur and the Packer offense can improve on 3 and outs.
Last week was the Packers red zone TD % defense. This week the Packers offense is ranked 3rd in red zone TD% while the Chiefs defense is ranked #24 in red zone TD %.
Serious Question:
How early is too early to talk about locking Aaron Jones up to a long term deal? He’d have two touchdowns in the first quarter today if he hadn’t grazed the sideline on that 70 yard catch. I think we’re reaching the point where he’s becoming so important to this offensive scheme week-in and week-out, and he’s so dynamic of a player, that you may not want to allow him to game plan his free agency options this off-season, in preparation for the following.
Maybe this is crazy talk, I’ll just get back to my Bourbon.
*Disclaimer*
I wrote this post when we were up 14-0 and overflowing with confidence.
Never mind, I still mean what I said, lol.
I personally don’t think so, spending a lot of money at the running back position is not a great idea.
Kevin King sucks.
Is it just me…or did Martinez look like he didn’t have a clue on the Kelce TD?
Not just you. Had the same thought
Martinez IS the most over-rated ILB in the NFC. Andy Reid and his staff are butt-fucking the Packers coaches. And as usual the middle is wide open. But the most alarming thing about this game is that Matt Moore is having a GOD GAME, and there has never been anything the other team can scheme against that. I had a feeling about this one . . . Green Bay shits the bed against a third stringer.
To be fair, he has a club on his hand, soooooo…
JK, I don’t know what the fuck he was doing on that play.
And here we are. I get the chiefs have offensive weapons and Reid is a good playcaller, but there a people wide open. Can we stop talking about this defense as a top unit?
I swear KC ran the same check down play 3 out of 4 plays on that last drive, and got first downs on practically all of them.
*Took the same check down
Nice Billy Turner….NICE
So, my take on this game is that we now KNOW that Green Bay is a good team, but NOT a great team. NO adjustments from Rodgers nor LaFleur to offset the blitz. That to me is telling. No spectacular running plays against a piss-poor K C run defense. The team is shitting the bed PERIOD.
Yea….i was starting to think that the coaching staff was turning a corner as far as answering adjustments. But Spagnuolo and Reid are getting me to backtrack on that. We’ll see how it shakes out in the 2nd half
It’s clearly evident that Kevin King attended, and graduated from The Tramon Williams School of Tackling on Hardman’s TD run.
I believe that once Green Bay got those two scores, they dialed it in thinking that it was going to be a cake walk. Well, that was a mistake if that is what happened. Plus Aaron Rodgers looks completely out of sorts with the defensive pressure. Very unlike him. And Billy Turner? WTF? He blows!
If i had free linebackers bearing down on me, and Linsley letting Saunders come in down the middle free, i’d look out of sorts also.
I’d like to order four more Elgton Jenkins’s, please and thank you.
Ok, for the football purist here….watch Billy Turner give up on a block, far before the play is dead. 9:20 left in the 3rd quarter, Rodgers completes a 14 yarder to Lazard but almost gets sacked.
Purist was a bad choice of words. How about football fans who are tired of seeing shoddy performances grossly over paid. Fans who give a shit.
How many of the five sacks did Turner give up? Let me help you ZERO. Tell me where I’m wrong from a fan who gives a shit.
Let me help you out….killer. I didn’t say he gave any up.
so what was so shoddy about his performance in this game if he didn’t give up any sacks? Sorry you have to resort to name calling, but that is what you usually do when someone writes something different from what you believe, or takes exception to your point of view.
Rodgers just pulled a Rodgers with that throw to Williams in the end zone
That fuck up by T Williams and Pettine playing scared “cunt” ball defense may have cost Green Bay this game.
Where is Kenny Clark and can someone return him please? Thanks
You gotta wonder, and I think someone mentioned this previously, what McCarthy thinks seeing not only what LaFleur has done with this team, but what Aaron Jones is doing. Knowing McCarthy, he’s probably still in denial and would be looking for ways to put Jones in the doghouse for the slightest of infractions.
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This should have been a double digit win. T Willy allowed an extra 4 points with that awesome hands to the face penalty that allowed the Chefs to score a TD instead of being held to a field goal. And I know its been said a dozen times but holy shit does Graham look like he not only runs in quicksand but moves like he is in slow motion while everyone around him is moving at full speed. It’s as if you could time him with a sundial. Everything about him looks s l o w and lumbering. Didn’t he used to be pretty athletic once upon a time?
During the game i thought the same as MMSUCKS posted. Pettine played scared, while Spagnuolo played aggressive, and damn near stole one.
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I’m disappointing in some individual efforts, but at the end of the day, i think it was a strong win at Arrowhead. Maybe a bit harder than it should have been.
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Give credit to the Chiefs, they played a tough game. They also know the value of having a competent back up QB.
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Aaron “fucking” Jones and Aaron “fucking” Rodgers. Co- MVP’s of this game.
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7-1…whooda thunk it.
Well, I am NOT surprised that Green Bay won. I am just surprised that they had to fight like hell to do it. The Defense is NOT as good as we would like, but the heart of this team IS awesome! A great win with some amazing clutch plays by a handful of Packer players! Light actually seemed to hold his own spelling BOTH Bahktiari and Bulaga when they went down as well. This team may not be elite as yet, but they have verve!
Whatever happened, Green Bay definitely has great team chemistry. My cynicism is still entrenched in MM,TT, and DC fuckery . . . I seriously need to adjust my POV to this new team chemistry! Thank god that MM,TT, and DC are gone! Now each and every game can be a positive outcome thanks to how these guys play and coach now! I just need to get on board with this new ethos At 1265 . . .
I think LaFleur said early in the off season that the Packers 2019 version was not going to look back, they were going to look forward and make their own history. Not exact words, but close.
It is hard after the last few years to not be critical and complain. Is their still problems, absolutely. The defense is giving up way to many big plays and to me that is the biggest concern. STs returns and coverage???
I feel cautiously optimistic that Gutekunst will make player additions and subtractions as needed to make the team better as long as it fits the salary cap. I’m also confident LaFleur can take those players and fit them into his system and make the players and team better.
Yes sir!
I sure as hell hope that I don’t ever start making comments on individual plays. Football purists understand it is usually always a 60 minute game in the NFL. Some plays certain players and play callers get beat and on other plays they beat the guy (who also gets paid to do his job) across from him. You just need to win on more plays (hopefully many more) as a team, than the opponent. The Packers Finished the game strong. That is one of the keys to winning in the NFL.
I agree, there should be a law. To think somebody has the gall to comment in a football forum, on a football play.
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It’s a world gone mad people.
Yeah, that was a very un-Howard comment. Not the usual stoicism I admire
Let’s get real. If you are going to comment on the Turner play why did you not comment on the Bulaga play at 6:14 in the 2nd quarter or the Elgerton play at 1:19 in the 3rd quarter? Both of those players did almost the exact same thing as Turner. They all three were blocking, they don’t have eyes in the back of there heads, and Rogers left the pocket causing the defensive lineman to release and chase, as the defensive lineman sees what the QB is doing. What is a offensive lineman to do? Reach out and grab the d lineman and get a holding penalty or let him go? The prudent move is to not reach out and grab the d lineman and move back 10 yards and/or negating a 13 yard pass play. Tell me where I’m wrong, or where Turner, Bulaga, or Elgerton we’re wrong. By the way when Elgerton let his guy release (rightfully so) Rogers did take a sack/hit. Where was the outrage? Neither Turner, Elgerton, and Bulaga Gave up on the plays.
First…i didn’t see it. When i see it, i say something, like last week when Bakhtiari and ELGTON JENKINS were beat on the same play for a sack. I saw it, i commented.
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2nd….when i see it, and they get paid 11 million like Billy, you bet your ass i’ll point it out
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3rd, you don’t need eyes in the back of your head to block, that’s what the refs have whistles for, if that confuses you in any way, let me know and i’ll find someone with more tolerance than i have to explain it to you.
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That’s real….now, stop whining.
That last sentence is gold from a guy who bitches and moans about almost everything.
In regards to your third item it has nothing to do with the whistle. None of the three stopped they just did not know that the man they were blocking was going to quit pushing and take off to the edge, because they could not see that Rodgers was going to take off to the edge. It is really simple if you can focus, and has nothing to do with the whistle. Do you want them to reach out and hold?
Yawn
I’m suprised you yawned to your above comment that included 3 points. Maybe you finally understand?
Ok killer, you win. Now quit negging everyone out after a win. Know when to say when.
When the Chiefs punted with just over 5 minutes left I thought “They won’t get the ball back. Pack needs to run out the clock.” It was gratifying to see it happen. May have been the best sign from the game. Mark of a good team. We still have room to improve but great sign. Also, although I think Graham is SLOW and DONE, it was also good to see his teammates have his back during the kerfuffle on the knee down plays. CHEMISTRY.
In regards to your second item. I know you have dislike for some players and once you have it you have a hard time letting go. Saying Billy Turner makes 11 million this year is disengenuos. That 11 million figure includes the signing bonus money. As I have wrote before I can understand concerns regarding the signing bonus Turner received. However, based on your calculations you could say Z. Smith makes 22 million this year, P Smith makes 18 million this year, and Amos makes 14.125 million this year. All those figures are misleading as those bonuses are spread out over the course of the contract length. Maybe all the others are worth those amounts and not Turner. I think all of those players are performing up to and above this years salary cap hit.
Z. Smith- 7.25 mil. P. Smith- 6 mil. Amos- 5.9 mil. Turner- 4.25 mil.
At some point all those listed players are going to have their salary cap hit equal and exceed their average contract amount based on the length of their contract. We will see then if they are worth the later year cap hits.
I know you think highly of Aaron Rodgers just as I do . Think about all those who do not think so highly of Rodgers. If they used your logic it would have meant to those who were not sold on Rodgers that Rodgers made 66.9 mil. Last year. That would be inaccurate Rodgers cap hit last year was 20.9 mil.
Even though I have seen some on this site question Rodgers ability last year, I never once saw anyone use the twisted logic that Rodgers made 66.9 million last year. That is the logic you are using for only Turner.
That should have been under PF4L above.
Yes…please take note.
I don’t GAF if the 11 million dollars includes his signing bonus and money from the tooth fairy. It could include his allowance from his Grandmother, i don’t care. He’s getting paid 11 million plain and simple, if he gets cut after the season, does he have to give it back? 11 million puts him in elite expensive talent level, last time i checked PFF had him ranked 33rd among guards. Next year, if he makes 3 million, that’s next year and a different story. I deal in the present and pay vs production. If someone can convince me he’s worth anywhere near 11 million (this season)….Come and get some…otherwise STFU already.
Wipe away your tears. Turner only counts 4.25 million to the salary cap this year, just like Rodgers only counted 20.9 million to last years salary cap. Turner isn’t getting cut after this year. However, to be fair all five of the players I named may or may not ever see the final year of their contracts.
It won’t work at this point to tell me to STFU so quit trying.
smh…..PF4L October 28, 2019
Ok killer, you win. Now quit negging everyone out after a win. Know when to say when.
This is like watching Lennon and McCartney go at it over Yoko Ono. I come to this site to see what Howard thinks and if PF4L said something really funny. I never thought I’d see you guys throwing down…over Billy Turner!
Back to your corners so you can save your energy for the Bolts.
I’m funny how? Funny, like, I’m a clown? I amuse you?
It’s over, i said he won. Don’t make me go get some muscle…..Kato?
Excellent, looks like equilibrium has been restored