Well, look at that. Mark Murphy does have a pair between his legs after all. The Green Bay Packers president shitcanned coach Mike McCarthy — Buffoon, Gravy Head, Gravy Fart — on Sunday.
The move comes after the Packers lost to an Arizona Cardinals team at home they should have destroyed. The Cardinals had two wins coming in. They have a rookie quarterback. They were ranked last in every major offensive category statistically. And yet, the Packers somehow managed to fall 20-17.
Was Aaron Rodgers out there short-arming throws and screwing up plays? Hell yeah.
Was he doing it on purpose? Maybe. As I said earlier, I can’t make the claim that he wasn’t at this point.
Still, this is a move we never expected from the Packers and their leadership. After the season, yes. During the season, never.
Just yesterday Murphy was talking about how the Packers had so much to play for. Now he has this to say.
“The 2018 season has not lived up to the expectations and standards of the Green Bay Packers. As a result, I made the difficult decision to relieve Mike McCarthy of his role as head coach, effective immediately,” Packers president Mark Murphy said in a statement. “Mike has been a terrific head coach and leader of the Packers for 13 seasons, during which time we experienced a great deal of success on and off the field. We want to thank Mike, his wife, Jessica, and the rest of the McCarthy family for all that they have done for the Packers and the Green Bay and Wisconsin communities. We will immediately begin the process of selecting the next head coach of the Green Bay Packers.”
Goddam right it hasn’t lived up to expectations.
No playoffs two years in a row?
Yeah, we’re entitled. We deserve to be. We’re not fucking Vikings fans.
Offensive coordinator Joe Philbin will be the interim coach.
And if the search is starting now, good bet the Packers are going after a college coach. Oklahoma’s Lincoln Riley is the first guy on my list.
Now, let’s get the tank on! But shhhhhhhh! Don’t tell anyone!
A tip of the cap to Fat Mike for delivering us a ring in 2010. Without Mike, who knows???
Maybe Minny gets a ring & we didn’t. Should we have won more with Rodgers in his prime? Probably.
But Rodgers is kinda a bitch & not a great teammate like Brady or Brees for example.
Anyways, it was time… My early token candidate is Eric Bieniemy. I don’t really know who else is out there that can coordinate a storng offense. The shift of the NFL is finding a young, offensive-minded HC
I want a Matt Nagy, Sean McVey or Mike Shannahan style offense….but then again, who doesn’t?
We need a guy who can reign in Rodgers and hold him accountable- I don’t see a first time college HC being able to do that. I would think the preference is a former NFL head man but no great insights come to mind yet, maybe Arians? Due to age that would be short term, maybe coinciding with Rodgers expected longevity.
Let’s put this in perspective. Murphy is an asshole who has not done one thing right. Teddy and Mac should have been fired years ago. So why would anyone think he gets the hiring coach move right? I love the Okie coach as he’s my wish as the dude understands offense.. Frost created UCF and Milton McKenzie. He had Nebraska churning out the points. The fly in the shit of course is our QB diva. It would be stupid to repeat the mistakes of not seeking input from the guy you wrote a blank check to. If Rogers is unhappy, well we’ve all seen the depressed pissed pf Rogers and it ain’t been pretty.
Mike McCarthy needed to go. It was time.
This should, however, have happened years ago. The way I see it, McCarthy sealed his fate way back in 2011-to-2015 when his play calling, mismanagement of the offense, poor coaching, conservative in-game approach and developmental skills (or lack thereof) were at their worst costing this organization huge games at critical points during the height of the era — but no one seemed to notice and that’s because Aaron Rodgers covered up just about everything from broken plays to below average talent (none of which is happening anymore). Had McCarthy found a way slow Colin Kaepernick in ’12 or ’13, beate Seattle in ’14 or found a way to beat Atlanta in ’16 and head to a second Super Bowl just once in those four years —– this doesn’t happen today.
Personally, and subjectively, I don’t think McCarthy has coached “that bad” this season (compared to years past) and this is coming from someone who has studied his play calling relentlessly and been his biggest critic since 2012. Don’t get me wrong, the man has not coached well and has clearly lost the locker room and has more problems than a math book, but on-the field this isn’t any worse than 2013 or 2015. To be clear —- this isn’t anything I haven’t seen out of him before. Not making excuses for him, but the Packers are just that bad this year and much of that has to do with Ted Thompson more than it does McCarthy or even Gutekunst. Injuries, bad luck, new and first-year players, tough schedule, below average talent all over the field, bad contracts (Matthews, Cobb, Perry) but most damning of all has been the downfall and pathetic play of Aaron Rodgers. McCarthy set himself up to be fired but the dagger undoubtedly came from Rodgers. Ironically being that these two both made each others career come to life after the Favre saga.
Aaron Rodgers is pure trash this year and that’s can’t all be on McCarthy. Now maybe he’s still injured, maybe it is the play calling, maybe it is the lack of talent, broken down offensive line, bad luck, coaching, poor game plans, whatever…..But what is clear is his leadership on the field is embarrassing (especially for one of the highest paid athletes in professional sports at 35 years old), his accuracy is the worst it’s ever been, his overall play is horrible (which is really saying something because I thought 2015 was the worst it could get) and now with McCarthy gone he’s all out of his excuses. If he keeps playing like this —– then what?
McCarthy certainly wasn’t going to be a solution moving forward, and is a scapegoat right now more than anything, but getting rid of him only solves a piece of the puzzle, far less than the full picture and with Rodgers running out of excuses where’s the finger pointing next? If Rodgers couldn’t get along with his former mentor of 13 years how’s he going to handle a new head coach, a new scheme, new play calling, new coaching staff and more new players? These next four games aren’t going to be any better than the last four, and by now you should know it doesn’t matter who the Packers play, they play against themselves, so how is it going to look when Rodgers plays just as bad without McCarthy as he did with him? What does that say when it happens?
Furthermore, what coach is going to want to work with this guy? 35 years old, outstandingly huge ego, no leadership skills of any kind whatsoever, if he keeps regressing like this how soon before the next head coach has to deal with running him out and playing someone better? He can’t even get along with his own family, what makes you think he’ll get along with a new, and possibly, younger coach? It’s pretty clear that he’s floating more into the category of “most overrated player of all time” than he is GOAT at this point, especially when with the money is making. So it begs the question, why would anyone want to deal with that? Any one good that is?
I agree with you post here, especially the last comments.
What innovative or successful would want to deal with Rodgers? None.
I’m afraid what’s going to happen with Green Bay is what happened with the Colts and Manning. Manning basically got a coach in Jim Caldwell who Manning was familiar with, someone within the Colts organization,
someone who he approved, but the Colts did worse than they did with Tony Dungy and Manning retired without getting a second ring.
Watch Rodgers turn it back on for the rest of the season. He got his birthday present and he’s good to go. He also has to prove there are no questions in his abilities.
“I made the difficult decision to relieve Mike McCarthy”
Sure ya did there Alfred. After you sat on your hands year after year, the Board of Directors pretty much told you to finally get rid of Ted who is still on the payroll doing who knows what while he sits at home in Texas collecting bank. This happened because the whole nation could see how bad of a condition TT was in when he was caught on TV multiple times catching flys with his gaping oral cavity.
Then, you say this will never happen again! You’re going to change the entire structure of the front office because you couldn’t hold Ted accountable, or because you can’t make any decisions on your own. You strip the new GM his ability to hire/ fire his own coach, and now this? Only after the entire nation has been calling for McCarthy’s head all season, the team looks like total trash (for years), Sports Illustrated does an article spotlighting all of the dysfunction going on within the organization, they get knocked out of the playoffs by one of the worst teams in the league (2-10) at home in December (warm weathered dome team), and now you want to take credit for making the decision to get rid of McCarthy? Go fuck yourself GGP.
How long before it’s blatantly obvious to the entire nation that Murphy needs to go too?
I hope this is just the tip of what’s to come. Plenty of firing to go around, to include some high paid, injury prone players. Spriggs should be let go for his 2 holding calls that cost at least 1 Drive being killed. Go Pack Go.
“See Ya Later, Gravy Fart”?
Some people’s kids.
No shit right?
All class, all the time.
Sign of the times…
Everybody thinks now that the Packers will name a coach and things will take off. But I am reminded of a famous quote by Vince Lombardi:
“Once you learn to quit, it becomes habit. ”
Rodgers quit on McCarthy and the rest of the team followed. I don’t see any coach out there who is not currently coaching an NFL team who Rodgers will respect, except for maybe Bruce Arians, who retired and probably won’t come to Green Bay.
Rodgers will quit on any college coach. He’ll quit on any young offensive coordinator. He’ll quit on anyone affiliated with the Packers past or present.
12/02/2018 at 4:41 pm
lol…Yea….the McCarthy fan boys are going to be ripping Rodgers apart. Wish i could send them some tissues.
I’m not a McCarthy fanboy. I think he’s a good, but not great coach. Been saying for a long time Rodgers has been tanking, now everyone agrees with me. I have lots of friends who attend games an Lambeau regularly and can see the whole field, tell me he ignores wide open players all game long. They are convinced he’s tanking too.
Now you might point out, I started saying this in 2016 after he had about 10 games of playing awful ( I though he was done) and suddenly started to play well. I’m convinced now he was trying to get McCarthy fired in 2015, but by mid 2016 he realized that if he kept up tanking, it would impact contract negotiations which would start in 2017, so he picked up the pace.
Now he’s signed a long term contract and what happens? No fear of impacting his next contract, so he tanks.
Please count me out of “everyone knows Rodgers was tanking” group. Don’t you think if Rodgers was out to sabatoge McCarthy and the team for the season he could have done so by sitting out the 2nd half of the bears game and a few thereafter? It would have been easier and put Rodgers at less risk health wise.
I never counted you in Howard, i knew you were smarter than that.
Nor would he have come back for the Carolina game last season. Or not performing 4th quarter comebacks. Seems much i read, references Rodgers tanking. What’s even more ludicrous, is people stating that Rodgers won’t like or get along with anyone the Packers bring in. That has to be one of the dumbest fucking things i’ve ever read in here. As if you know Rodgers…GTFO. That shit sounds like something from the files of The Lonely Boy.
Count me out as well. That idea is ridiculous and I don’t need to explain why.
Kudos on the Vince Quote….
Pretty much would sum it up if that is indeed the case…. we’ll see shortly i guess.
The best way to describe this team at this point is PF4L’s B-R-O-K-E-N….
They have alot of work to do to avoid becoming 80’s Packers Redux….
For now my Packers hat has been relegated to the broom closet.
Mike Leach is the only possible candidate that fits Rodgers personality. Quirky, dry sense of humor, moody, a closet nerd. Rodgers is that same guy.
So, according to you, Rodgers won’t respect ANY NFL head coach except for Arians?
And just so i’m following you, you also don’t think he will respect ANY college coach.
And finally, just to be sure…You say Rodgers will quit on everyone…NFL, College, Packers past or present?
Wow…..You must know him very well.
Your first name isn’t Jordan is it?
Everyone that read your post is now dumber because of it.
That was for deepsky….obviously
PFL4 NO MORE EXCUSES for AR. It’s put up time. Personnally like him as a quarterback, but as a leader and person not so much.
Name your coach.
Pat Fitzgerald, or Bruce Ariens
That’s fine Ladies…if you truly believe what you believe, take a hiatus from the Packers until Rodgers is gone. Stop the hurt and inner turmoil, self heal.
Fitzgerald is interesting with the Murphy connection at Northwestern. I love him as a college coach. College guys love the rah rah play for your university shit. It works at that level. Not sure it plays in the NFL though. He probably still gets an interview though.
Rodgers will never take orders from a college coach, particularly one that’s never won anything.
Never been a fan of bringing in a head coach from the college level. In college they coach dumb kids who are desperate to make it to the NFL. In the pros, those dumb kids are making tons of money and think they are better than the coach.
Grab a hot shot OC from some team like New Orleans. Trade Rodgers and his big contract, big ego, and deteriorating skills to some desperate AFC team for a gravy boat full of draft picks. Find a new Qb in the draft to train, bring in some cheap free agent to carry the team until the rookie is ready, and use the savings in the cap to rebuild the roster.
I don’t trust Murphy to make the right choice as he is all about money, not football. He is more suited to run a theme park than a pro football team. I fear bad times are upon us Packer fans.
This needed to happen, make no mistake. QB and coach no longer on the same page, and apparently the players felt closed off from him. There was a lot that rubbed me the wrong way with the guy. The arrogance. The stubbornness. His adaptability. Only this year did he start to adapt the offense and pull concepts from other offenses. It was too late at that point. Hopefully he learns from this.
That being said, I wish him nothing but the best. Unpopular opinion here I know, but I do not think he was a bad coach by any means. Even with good QB play, it isnt easy to win in the NFL. Ask Sean Payton. Ask Drew Peterson now. The Patriots dynasty is truly special, and even with a QB like Rodgers, is not easily replicable. That’s why no other team has done it. Peyton Manning never had the success that Brady has had. The Seahawks kind of fell apart after a few years. The 49ers are terrible. Only the packers have been consistently a playoff team this decade out of any NFC team. To me, that isnt just a testament to just how good Rodgers was, but the team had an abundance of talent the first half of the decade before poor drafts, bad coaching decisions (keeping Capers, mediocre special teams coaches, ect). And that part is on McCarthy. The team got complacent with success. Everyone was all on the Kyle Shannahan bandwagon, but what has he done this year with injuries to the QB position? You cant give him a pass on that and at the same time criticize McCarthy for the same thing.
You guys got what you wanted years ago. I have watched a lot of football over the years, meaning other NFL teams, and we had it pretty good there for 6-7 years. If you want to place all the blame on McCarthy and Ted Thompson drafts, that’s your prerogative. I think there will be a time when some of you look back and realize we didn’t have it so bad with those two. At least when Thompson still had his marbles. A new coach doesn’t necessarily fix Aaron Rodgers. It is up to Aaron Rodgers to fix himself. Will he buy into the next system? Will he run it as it is supposed to be run? Or will his ego take over and he starts to just “wing it ” and play sandlot ball?
Since everyone is guessing about the next head coach, I just want to say I think Bill Belichick needs a new challenge. :-)
I know why most think the Packers need an offensive minded play calling genius for the new head coach. What I think the Packers need is a Head coach that is strong in all three phases of the game and doesn’t call plays defense or offense. So experience is required. Let the new head coach be a head coach and he can hire the offensive or defensive innovators to be the coordinators and position coaches.
I really believe Rodgers would mesh just fine with a head coach that has a defensive background as long as that individual has a strong grasp of the game of football and can motivate the entire team.
I’m not saying it should be Pettine but remember how fired up Rodgers was about Pettine’s talk to the team at the start of the year.
The team and Rodgers needs the head coach to be a different person than the offensive coordinator and play caller. Same goes for the defensive side. Just my opinion. Who that coach is I don’t know, but do not count out a new head coach that has more experience on the defensive side of the ball.
Thank you Howard, it’s refreshing having some additional voice of reason and wisdom in here.
Correct…..The head coach doesn’t HAVE to be an offensive genius, he needs a good offensive coordinator. He needs to be a head coach, overseeing all 3 segments of the team plus intangibles. Intangibles are actually doing something to improve the team when segments need improvement, not just doing……nothing, for years.
We haven’t had a head coach for a long time, and it’s about fucking time.
Ron Zook……..start packing
Hopefully failure isn’t accepted and welcomed here anymore in the future.
Why not just make Rodgers the OC? He knows the offense as well as anyone. Let him call the plays, the HC can handle the overall picture.
Was Murphy ever suspose to be this involved in the football side of things? Because hes basically the self anointed owner of the Green Bay Packers at this point if hes getting this involved in the football operations side of things. Where the fuck is the board of directors in all this? I dont want Murphy running this team.
I can’t even. This will be a disaster if he is hired. Like, you will pine for McCarthy. Pat Fitzgerald is a penis. Honestly, a poor man’s Pete Carroll. Definitely more of a defensive background, but NU’s offenses have been terrible. This has that ginger gap toothed cocksuckers fingerprints all over it. He hired Fitzgerald on at NU, so they are buddy buddy. Fitzgerald is a college coach, not a pro coach. Plain and simple. The author of the article is a Fitzgerald mouthpiece. Mark my words, if Fitzgerald is hired, it will be bad for the packers.
Murphy IS the largest remaining problem in Green Bay followed by; Russ Ball, Zook, Lovat, Buffoon’s offensive sycophants (Jim Hostler comes to mind), Winston Moss (no one should be this angry), Spriggs, Perry, Cobb, Crosby, Bulaga, Ryan, . . . HELL! while we are at it, at least half of this fucking team! Also, please release TT (The Frugal GM) from this ridiculous “consulting” charade. These “moves” would put this team on a better path towards rebuilding a more competitive football team . . .
You know you are going to have to drop the squared symbol, but what I would be most satisfied in seeing is MM being dropped totally.
I would think Murphy and/or Gutekunst need to have a press conference today and no later than tomorrow. I would like to see both answer questions. When both speak and answer questions together it may give some clues as to who may be in charge of making the next coaching decision. If it doesn’t give any clues it will show who should be in charge of the next coaching decision. You probably know who I think it should be. I think Murphy speaking side by side with Gutekunst will show who should be in charge of football operations just like it did when Murphy and Gutekunst spoke after Gutekunst was hired.
We will see how Gutekunst works out in the long run, but there should be no question who should be making the Packer’s Head Coach decision when the option is between Gutekunst and Murphy.
So I will be dropping the squared symbol asap HOWARD with aplomb. I am in accord with you regarding your other points. MM needs to go away from this ridiculous “Triumvirate” that he concocted to cover his lame football operations ass . . . there needs to be a voice of strength as the head of the Green Bay Packers football brand. Mark Murphy is not that man. After listening to the “presser”, I came away believing that Murphy may be calling all of the shots. Gutekunst appears to be a yes man. I am trusting that Murphy actually does something this time. Just as long as it is NOT Philbin or Northwestern’s recent HC. Interesting, but somewhat disappointing presser IMO.
So I will be dropping the squared symbol asap HOWARD with aplomb. I am in accord with you regarding your other points. MM needs to go away from this ridiculous “Triumvirate” that he concocted to cover his lame football operations ass . . . there needs to be a voice of strength as the head of the Green Bay Packers football brand. Mark Murphy is not that man. After listening to the “presser”, I came away believing that Murphy may be calling all of the shots. Gutekunst appears to be a yes man. I am trusting that Murphy actually does something this time. Just as long as it is NOT Philbin or Northwestern’s Fitzgerald as HC. Interesting, but somewhat disappointing presser IMO.
Meh, I am not on the cut Crosby train. He had the train wreck game earlier this year. And he did miss the game tying 49 yard field goal, but that field goal is no gimme. If I had to guess, leaguewide success rate from that range is probably 50-60%
Does anyone actually believe that TT is consulting anything??? The jig is up, pull the plug.