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Joe Philbin Explains Winston Moss Firing

It was surprising that the Green Bay Packers suddenly fired associate head coach and linebackers coach Winston Moss on Tuesday. Interim head coach Joe Philbin supposedly made the decision.

There has been plenty of speculation that the firing stemmed from a tweet Moss sent seemingly questioning the organization. Philbin says that is not the case.

“It’s never about one thing,” Philbin said. “Again, I think it’s important, as I said to the team, we’ve got to be professional, accountable, respectful, and punctual. Those are the four things that we’ve got to do the next four weeks. And if we do all those things, we’ll be in good shape. It wasn’t about — again, you’re talking to a guy who’s never tweeted in his life, doesn’t even know what Twitter is — so again, it’s not about a tweet or anything like that. I just think the fit right now isn’t where it needs to be. . . .

“I think it’s important obviously that everybody’s on the same page, that we’re all moving forward in the same direction. As you know, Winston’s an excellent football coach. I’ve known him a long time. Respect him; outstanding family man. So it wasn’t an easy decision, but I just didn’t feel like the fit right now was where it needs to be.”

This was the tweet in question.

Personally, I think this is about much more than that tweet. Moss has long wanted to be a head coach. He’s had several opportunities to interview. He’s never gotten a job. Moss was obviously passed over for the interim job in favor of Philbin. It’s entirely possible Moss thought he wasn’t going to get a shot to replace Mike McCarthy following the season.

Who knows?

What we do know is the Packers are one dysfunctional mess at this point.

Joseph Bonham

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  1. KILLER December 5, 2018

    Yeah. It was the tweet.
    Without that honesty he’d still be employed.
    So, there you go, Philben is yet another Packer liar. Fits right in. Maybe he will be the new coach.

    1. PF4L December 5, 2018

      Just curious Lonely Boy.

      Besides MMSUCK, who seems to like you for some reason, but otherwise, no one else really wants you here, so….why do you come to a place your not wanted? I guess i wouldn’t normally ask, but your demeanor belies any logic and understanding, therefore the question begs to be asked.

      Do you come in to say negative things to illicit a reaction, therefore getting someone to actually converse with you, is that the end goal? Does that somehow smooth the edges of your social inadequacies.

      I mean…is our negative response to you, which is rooted from your negative post, somehow self medicating for you in the lines of a little negative attention being far better than getting no attention in your life?

      Is negative dialogue better than having no human to human dialogue off line?

      What distress and pain are going through in life that would motivate you to come in here to illicit negative attention for yourself?

  2. PF4L December 5, 2018

    I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility that Philbin was told to fire Moss. I wouldn’t be shocked to hear that a board member told Murphy to get rid of Moss, then Murphy told Philbin to get rid of Moss. Wouldn’t surprise me in the least.

    Why is it, that when a move needs to be made, someone, has to tell someone ….to do it.

    Is anyone in charge? Does anyone at 1265 Lombardi Ave. have leadership qualities? I think these are fair questions. Please don’t fucking tell me that Murphy is in charge, when someone had to tell him to let Ted go.

    The more we get through the layers of fabric that are the Green By Packers, the more dysfunction we discover.

    I want to say this team is broken. But that doesn’t seem like a strong enough word anymore.

    Under Murphy as President, this team is a train wreck.

    I beg anyone….please tell me why he is still in power? How can that be?

  3. PF4L December 5, 2018

    This is all a result of Rodgers not being able to cover up the dysfunction of this team by winning. That’s what happens when talent regresses year after year after year.

    It caught up to the team where even Rodgers couldn’t save them anymore, and now because of it, people lose their jobs.

    Sorry for the vent, sometimes you just gotta purge. :)

  4. PF4L December 5, 2018

    I’m not mad that they are losing and people are losing their jobs.

    I’m mad that changes weren’t made back when Rodgers was 31, when it might have mattered and when changes were clearly due.

  5. Hinder December 5, 2018

    Philbin should have said, “I fired him because he’s a big horse’s ass and I am sick of his shit.” That I could have respected.

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  6. John D December 5, 2018

    Moss is an ashole. I don’t care who fired him, I’m just glad it done. How the fuck did that asshole connect with these young players? MM really fucked that up. After that press conference during training camp, he should have been fired then. Even the press events over the past few years, his articulation was pathetic. Good riddance.

  7. Kato December 5, 2018

    Not going to lie, this dysfunction scares me. There is very obviously a lot of shit going on behind the scenes and I think this just scratches the surface. I wonder what other shit that escapes the public’s eye goes on there?

    1. Empacador December 5, 2018

      There will be no successful McCarthy tree. If the rumors are true about McCarthy going to Cleveland, hopefully Wolf and company talk some sense into Dorsey. Cleveland has suffered long enough and they deserve better than what McCarthy will bring to the table. I can already imagine him setting up shop with all his former favorite assistant coaches like Moss, etc. and attempt to turn Cleveland into Green Bay East. Familiarity breeds contempt and dysfunction.

  8. Fritz from WI December 8, 2018

    DDisillusionment, size DD, ANYONE?