Jimmy Graham intends to try to play this week with a broken thumb. Will experience with different splits and protections. Mike Daniels, however, will "be a couple of weeks" after his foot injury, coach Mike McCarthy said. https://t.co/HNhpAO3Avk
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) November 19, 2018
I can’t quite explain that second sentence from Cher, there. ESPN’s copy editor must be on vacation for the holiday already.
We knew Daniels would be out for a bit. That will hurt the Packers’ defense. Losing Graham would have hurt the Packers’ offense, but the Daniels’ loss is probably bigger.
Graham, after signing a three-year, $30 million deal in the offseason, has put up 34 catches for 452 yards and two touchdowns in 10 games. He’s had just one catch in the last two games each. Not exactly the sort of game-changer you want for that kind of money.
Still, the Packers are better with Graham on the field. Lance Kendricks would be the next man up if Graham were to sit. And to that point, why the hell not just play Robert Tonyan?
Tonyan is a former undrafted free agent (2017) in his first season with the Packers. He caught the first pass of his career on Thursday. And while that is not super impressive, Tonyan has played just 13 snaps on offense the entire season thus far.
Whoever happens to be in the lineup, the Packers have the Minnesota Vikings on the road this week. Win this week or season over. And there’s no if’s or and’s about it anymore.
Let me get this straight… the Packers are better with Graham one the field, yet he’s only caught one pass in each of the last two games? Doesn’t sound like they’re that much better with him. Tonyan caught a 54 yard TD pass on Thursday while Jimmy was missing. Sounds to me like GB is doing just fine, if not better, without Graham.
He has attracted a fair amount of double teams. The Bears admitted as much in the season opener, which definitely opened up things for Cobb
Well thank god for those double teams otherwise Cobb wouldn’t have scored his only TD of the season.
Welcome to the new NFL –
Real football was played last night …..
– Mahomes and Goff were unbelievable – even w turnovers (they are Rodgers-Vers2 !!!)
– Coaching was hi-tech (Old timer Andy Reid keeping up w the new wunderkind coaches) !
– Strong DEs and LBs (secondary ???? ….. Meh)
– ….and it was a blast to watch !!!!!
Jimmy Graham -whatever …..
GBs run is over…..there’s no way they compete against these guys or current top teams – especially in games outside of Wisconsin….
Expecting some dark years ahead as GoodArt (hopefully and quickly) rebuilds !
Bottom line : Gonna be hard to watch a GB game w any exitement after last night…
Yea Ice….was a hell of a good game to watch. So was the Badger game on Saturday.
Good post Ice.
Keep on, keepin on my friend.
Yep ICEBOWL! This is the result that many of us predicted . . . TT, Buffoon, Murphy, Capers and a few others have wasted, beaten-down and ruined the GOAT’s potential. While at the same time dashing any hope of a football dynasty happening in Green Bay anytime in the near future. This Murphy fuck needs to take a slide down his beloved sledding hill and JUST. KEEP. GOING. away from 1265 Lombardi. New ideas and REAL football minds are needed in Green Bay (have been needed since 2008) immediately. The time for this is way past due! Make it happen Board of Directors NOW!
I’ve been harping for more Tonyan for a while. I think he showed some skills in the preseason to warrant some more reps in the regular season. More than what we’ve seen so far. He caught practically everything tossed at him in the preseason so at this point, why not?
Is Kendricks really that good as a TE, really? Don’t we have Marcedes Lewis as the real blocking TE? C’mon, free Tonyan.
I would normally say “the coaching body knows what they have”… until I remember how long it takes them to give new guys a try. We were stuck with AJ Hawk and Brad Jones for quite a while, till they found out Lattimore and Barrington, coupled with Matthews sharing time in the middle. What about MD Jennings and Jerron McMillian? Recently, Aaron Jones had a way better yd average than any RB… in preseason. OK, it’s preseason, so it’s not the real game. But Williams and Montgomery had two less yards on average, in the very same preseason. And I don’t say “hand him the starting spot”, but just “see what you truly have in that guy, will ya?”. Aaron Jones had to play a few snaps here and there, and again, he was head and shoulders above the other two. What did McCarthy do? Shelf him as soon as possible. Now, he soon realized that he may have something in Jones. So no, with GB’s coaching staff I am no longer sure they recognize talent. And again, I never meant giving an unknown player the keys to a starting position, but come on, if someone showed a lot more than your de-facto starters under the same circumstances, couldn’t you give them a try? Just a try! At worst, it will eliminate complacency among the starters, showing them that they are held accountable, and if they screw up, other guys will be given some looks. At best, you identify young talent BEFORE they are on the way out from their rookie/cheap deals.
Maybe it’s time try Kizer ( bench #12 for rest of season so he can heal…)
…. The Saints have this guy Taysom Hill………..
PF, Barrington gave us the ability to stop the run. We were conceding first downs like crazy through the middle. He was a hard hitter. Yeah, not awesome in coverage, but the whole concept of RBs flexed as pass catchers caught fire years after that! By then some teams started emphasizing a throwback hard-nosed running flavor to punish defenses too focused on the pass (the 2011 GB offense and NE probably had something to do with that focus). Barrington’s ability can be compared to Jake Ryan’s. Ryan is heavier but Barrington launched himself recklessly, I recall him stopping LeGarrette Blount dead in his tracks, forcing Bellichick to punt instead of trying to steal a 1st down on 4th and short, like he would have done if he felt he could have gotten away with it. After 2015 the whole usage of the RBs in the short passing game started to grow and became a trend, and only in this current context you could say that a run stopping LB (like Barrington was) is either a liability or a situational player.
ICE: go home, you are drunk. But take the following example with you for when you sober up: how did MVS compare to Cobb or Allison? Well it took downtime from both for MVS to get significant snaps. Otherwise, McCarthy trotted out the same WR lineup: Adams, Cobb, Allison.
MJ…he was a one trick pony. Hard to have a lengthy career in this league that way (no offence Trevor). I’m not sure if it was Barrington’s lack of talent, or that he spent more time on the injured list than on the field that led to his quick exit from the league after Green Bay.
This dude was known more for catching a shark while on IR than anything he did on the field. Just sayin.
MJ – why the hater ????
Have a great Thanksgiving my friend
Ps I’m on step 8 – haven’t touched a drink for 14 months and 5 days…
Anyone else watch the game last night? Looks like the Rams moves for a game wrecking defense didnt work. Suh, Talib, Peters to join Donald. You get the picture. Still gave up 51 points. Keep Pettine if possible. This league is about scoring. All the more reason McCarthy has to go. We need a guy that can run an unpredictable modern offense.
Jimmy Graham might play?
Like it matters. If McDipshit had Kellen Winslow and Tony Gonzalez and both were 25 he still wouldn’t design an offense to get them the ball. They have a potential superstar in Aaron Jones and he gets the ball 8 times a game. Look what the coaching change did for the Rams. McCarthy is Jeff Fisher without Rodgers. A shitty coach that hangs on because he sucks ownership’s dick. 4-11-1 is what I am hoping for, nice last season asshole. This team is unwatchable, fans should stay home to send a message. I wouldn’t go to a game for free with that fool roaming the sidelines.
I second that Amen, This^^^^, and throw in a Fuck Yeah. Although I did go to the Dolphins game for free and had a good time. I guess free tickets against bottom feeders are the exception.
Right on Ferris….
I’m thinking they beat the Jets….. In OT.
5-10-1 : last place in NFC North finishing behind the 7-9 Lions
I would go if they had free beer
I’ll TRY to wait and see if Graham plays. Actually I’m suprised Graham’s past knee injury has not kept him from playing, yet. I know MM said it ,but try is not a very action oriented word. When you have a choice to do something or not do something, you either do it or you don’t. There is no try to do it in the equation.
My guess is the Packers are trying to get the Vikings to spend a small amount of time on game planning for Graham, or Graham has a bone chip or crack on the end of his thumb. Kind of like the ones most of us have had when we hit the end of our thumb or finger with a hammer. There is nothing you can do about it so swear a while, shake you hand, maybe wrap some duct tape around it, go back to work, and try not to hit it again for a day or two. Those two days are up.
Lol Howard…..I’m gonna try to win Powerball Saturday.
In related…..I’m wondering if his knee was f’d up, when he signed his lottery ticket…oops, i meant his contract.
In related (tongue in cheek) thoughts……….After giving the last two years of free agent signings serious cost and performance analysis, maybe Ted was on to something about not getting into free agency.
I thought J. Evans worked out for a year….am i missing anyone else?
I think Jared Cook was at about 2.75 mil. for one year. I think Oakland paid Cook a little over 10 million for 2 years. It was a huge mistake to not resign Cook.
I could be wrong but to me the Patriots fill a lot of holes with one year prove it deals. Rent a veteran player works well for the Patriots.
Yea, i went back 2 years, that’s why i didn’t bring Cook up. I think not resigning Cook had something to do with Ted and Cooks agent at odds and Ted said F. off and then signed Bennett.
I liked Cook, after that sideline catch against the Cowboys, what more do you want? I was cool with him. Then Ted signed Bennett and i even said….Ruh Roh. Remember that?…we talked about it at the time, about him having history of being a malcontent. Personally, i can’t stand him or his brother.
Good points HOWARD.