There’s certainly no bitterness on the part of Damarious Randall…
Since the Green Bay Packers traded the former first-round pick to the Cleveland Browns, Randall has made a comment about his freedom and now about how dumb the trade was.
You’ll see how dumb that trade was very soon 😂😂😂 https://t.co/tyCsgKLBqG
— Randalltime (@RandallTime) March 23, 2018
How dumb or not dumb it was will remain to be seen. The Packers got quarterback DeShone Kizer back in the deal. However, the real get was swapping picks in the fourth and fifth rounds with the Browns. The Packers pick 14th in each round. The Browns, because they suck, pick first. So it’s arguably as if the Packers added another third and fourth round pick.
What’s more, Randall appears to be locker room cancer. Some veteran leaders wanted him cut following a benching and subsequent outburst early during the 2017 season.
That’s not to say he can’t change the narrative in Cleveland. He’s moving back to safety, the position he played in college. However, the kid has always been outspoken despite plenty of subpar play and he obviously hasn’t learned how to shut his mouth.
Some would call that a sign of immaturity. Ignore the noise.
Randall obviously hasn’t learned how to do so.
The fact remains, despite others suggesting it was last year, Randall’s only truly good season remains his rookie year. In 2015, Randall had a career-high 58 tackles and 14 passes defended. He added three interceptions, one less than he had in 2017.
Unlike the past two years, Randall actually looked like a willing tackler in 2015.
Boy, remember that? Damarious Randall willing to tackle anyone?
In 2016, Randall’s play was straight garbage. In 2017, things started the same way, but he looked better after the benching. It seemed to wake him up.
Maybe the trade will motivate him like the benching seemed to and he’ll play well for the Browns, but we have our doubts.
You can’t be a boy and play a man’s game.
Oh my, at it again I see. I’m talking about this site, not Randall.
There is a lot to unpack here so bear with me:
1. You conclude he is bitter because he said he is free and because he said it was a dumb trade. Well, feeling free and bitterness are pretty much the opposite of one another. As for the dumb move thing most anyone thought it was a dumb trade including me. I wasn’t bitter. I giggled about the trade (no long deep chuckle that time, it was truly more of a giggle, I admit). Just because someone recognizes a dumb trade as being a dumb trade does not mean they are bitter.
2. The Packers did not “arguably” add a 3rd and 4th round pick! Good Lord! Who’s zooming who?? They moved up 13 or 14 spots in 2 rounds. They did not ADD ANY picks. There is some value in that but it is fairly slight. Most likely the players they select with those picks still would have been available at their previous position a little later in each round. Historically the Packers select players in the 4th round expected to be picked in the 6th round and players in the 5th round expected to be selected in the later 6th round. If so then the move ups are valueless. If not, then you would need to figure out the difference in play between who they actually got and who they would have “settled for” at their original position. While this is not possible it is pretty clear to see these move ups have very little value.
3. Keep in mind that as part of this trade the team actually DOWNGRADED its back up QB! How many trades do that? Crazy! Or, as Randall put it so well: “dumb”.
4. The claim that some veteran leaders wanted him cut…. First, we do not know that. No veteran has actually said that. We have a media team lackey who wrote that based on what the HC or Murphy or whoever instructed him to write. Well, we know they are liars so you really should not buy into that. We also know Randall was not cut so, if they did advise that, the veterans were ignored. If the team ignored them, shouldn’t we? We also know Randall went on to play very good football after that so it is all in the past. It is only relevant as a way to lamely justify a very bad trade. And, of course, the Browns organization sports a few former Packer executives so they knew exactly what they were getting in Randall. (unlike the Eagles with that Michael Bennett)
5. Then, this zinger: “obviously hasn’t learned how to shut his mouth. Some would call that a sign of immaturity”. OK, so telling the truth and calling a bad trad a bad trade is immature? Well then, what is putting out word to a media lackey that veterans wanted him cut? Sounds like a very immature HC or Murphy could not “shut his mouth”. Or maybe shut his lying mouth as the case may be.
It is all funny because the only real bitterness I see here is this site towards Randall.
He was going to be cut anyways, idiot. Whether or not they downgraded at QB remains to be seen, but I think it’s safe to say Kizer at this point has a much higher ceiling than Hundley. Hundley is what he is after 3 years. Kizer had a rough rookie year, but thank god teams don’t just assume a QB is garbage after year one.
Here is a QBs stats after year one: 84/165 for 875 yards, 1 TD, 11 INT. He eventually was traded although he dramatically improved. Still in the league and has been a postseason starter.
Here is another one, except it is his first two years combined (19 starts): 267/403 for 3217 yards, 11 TDs, 21 INTs. This quarterback was then traded where he went on to have a HOF career.
While I am not suggesting Kizer is either of these two by any stretch of the imagination, the upside is there. The packers were cutting Randall either way, he was a poor fit for Pettine’s defense regardless of locker room issues, why not start over fresh at backup QB and move up in the 4th and 5th rounds. Literally all you do is come here and bash the packers in every way possible, without any facts. You literally provide nothing valuable to this site. Btw QB1 was Alex Smith and QB2 was Steve Young.
Kato-stop reading his crap and don’t respond. Maybe he’ll move on. Don’t even skim it, he jacks off at the fact that you read it.
Play-Doh: Who says he was going to be cut anyway? Sounds like something you just made up. But, if not, provide proof as it will prove this organization is extremely foolish indeed. Probably even foolish enough to trade away a #1 pick in order to DOWNGRADE its back-up QB position…. (Oh, wait, that already happened!)
Fairy-Is: While I find it gratifying to help reveal truth to Packer fans, I don’t find it as rewarding as you envision.
A corpse wouldn’t be a downgrade for hundley
Damn dude get a life! You honestly think anyone comes to this site to read your idiotic comments? Hell I seen how long it was and thought to myself what kind of Fing loser….
You should be kinder to Edward. Also, I really don’t think Edward Lane’s post was very long. At all. If you can’t read one sentence I think you simply can’t read.
PS What is a “Fing”?
“Fing”…Used in a sentence….
Example #1) Why would you keep Fking coming to a place where nobody likes you, or…even wants you here?
Example #2) How Fing lonely do you have to be, to ignore the facts of Example #1?
What kind of loser? A SKOL, Special Kind Of Loser.
There’s a chance this could turn out good for both teams. I wouldn’t be surprised if Randall plays much better at safety.
I also would not be surprised if Kizer greatly improves under McCarthy. When he was thrown in to lead the Browns offense, he had just turned 21 years old. He’s got a much better arm and better size than Hundley.
The Browns started a 3 minute egg timer and said before it rings we want our whole roster to be new…Have fun in loserville dude. Once they cut you the Vikings will pick you up, like all Green Bay cast offs.
It’s been a few years since we picked up a Packer player. We have none on the team. In fact, in recent years it has been the Packers picking up former Vikings players.
There is such a gulf in talent differential at this point between the two teams that a Packer starter could only make the Vikings as a back up and a Packers back up simply would not make the Vikings team. The one exception I see is David Bahktiari. We’d put him at LT and move Reiff to RT and Remmers to RG. Other than that your starters would be our back ups.
I’m not against picking up former Packer players. Unlike Packer fans on this site, I don’t actually think that being on the Packers team truly entirely ruins the player. In fact, I think many are kept down by the Packer coaching staff and can blossom is a better environment (See Hayward, Casey and Hyde, Micah and, soon, Randall, Damarious).
A few of those Packer starters could be valuable role players for us or contribute on kick coverage…..
Could they have helped the queens not shit the bed in the NFCCG?
Could they have at least helped the queens not give up 450 yards and 38 unanswered points?
Could they have helped not letting a back up QB have a 141 passer rating?
Could they have helped the queens not lose an NFL record 6 NFCCG’s in a row?
Unlike the other queens players, could they have acted like advancing to the Super Bowl in Minnesota was something they should have at least put up a fight for? Instead of laying down and quitting like most queen players have done in the last 42 years?
If you’d rather not reply answers to those questions, trust me….everyone understands.
Like I said some of your starters would be worthy of providing valuable depth, maybe get in the rotation somewhere a little.
Based on the Packers past performance in recent conference title games (the ones these Packer players actually participated in) — that demolishing in Atlanta and the Greatest Choke in Play-Off history with Seattle — I don’t think they would have helped.
If a Packer player becomes available I don’t look upon them with a jaundiced eye. I neither prefer nor avoid them when it comes to improving our roster.
I think Blake Martinez would do well on kick coverage and Kevin King could make for a fine gunner on punt coverage. Mike Daniels could give our DTs a breather at times. Aaron Rodgers arthritis should in no way prevent him from holding a clipboard. Though, of course, he may quit and leave the clipboard laying on a sideline bench the last two games of the year.
Could they have helped the queens not shit the bed in the NFCCG?
Could they have at least helped the queens not give up 450 yards and 38 unanswered points?
Could they have helped not letting a back up QB have a 141 passer rating?
Could they have helped the queens not lose an NFL record 6 NFCCG’s in a row?
Unlike the other queens players, could they have acted like advancing to the Super Bowl in Minnesota was something they should have at least put up a fight for? Instead of laying down and quitting like most queen players have done in the last 42 years?
If you’d rather not reply answers to those questions, trust me….everyone understands.
Look, if Randall finds a home and better career in Cleveland, more power to him, Seriously, good for him. But it was not dumb for the Packers to trade him. He was not working out here and he wasn’t going to work out here. He pissed too many people off and pretty much set the stage for going someplace else. It was just a year sooner than expected. Kizer aside, moving up in the draft a little was worth it.
Yes, a first round pick was spent on this guy. Big deal. Yes, this team needs cornerbacks. Big deal. A whole lot of high picks have been spent on players that haven’t lived up to expectations, or been an ideal fit for the team that first selected them. So what.
Randall has a chance to either refocus and become the stud he thinks he is and maybe someday be an All Pro, or flame out someplace else. That’s up to him. If he does work out, good for him because he wasn’t on a path to do it here and someone helped make that decision for him. He now needs to grow the fu*# up and thank his lucky stars he has that chance to prove himself at a position more meant for him. If he wants to be pissed, he can be pissed like the rest of us who think GB has been screwing up in drafting players for more than a few years now.
Good luck Damarious, it just didn’t work out,..here. It did not work for Deshone,…there. So now,…we’ll see.
Once Randall was forced to leave the bench because of the distraction Randall caused, or Randall quit and left the bench on his own, the Packers were in the process of finding the best deal to get rid of Randall.
If Randall can become such a distraction during a game when things don’t go well for him, then think how much of a distraction Randall could be for a whole season when he would not be offered a 5th year option by the Packers. Let’s be clear the Packers were not going to offer the 5th year to Randall.
I believe Dorsey is a very good GM so maybe there is some hope for Randall’s career. The Browns front office had to know how the Packers felt about Randall and for that matter Kizer. I’m not so sure about Kizer as I have probably watched almost every ND game broadcast and Kizer should have been in college last year not be a starting QB in the NFL. With that said I also believe Pettine is a very good DC and Pettine has had the time to study Randall. Pettine must not believe Randall fits his defensive backfield.
I don’t know how Randall will react if the Browns do not offer him the 5th year option, or do so at a safety rather than a corner. My guess is Randall will be throwing his arms around and blaming others as he has done in the past, right or wrong.
The Packers lost the best defensive back they have that can make a play on the ball when it is in the air. That will work out well for the Browns if they move Randall to FS. The other advantage having Randall back is the Browns do not have to worry about Randall committing any targeting or hitting a defenseless receiver penalties. Randall will avoid hitting a receiver or a runner if at all possible.