I just took a look at almost every major player on the Green Bay Packers’ roster to see if they were getting better, staying about the same, or getting worse during their time in Green Bay. I had Aaron Rodgers ranked in a small group who were performing consistently well. In most cases I resorted to statistical comparisons with their peers or to Pro Football Focus grades. I didn’t bother to do that analysis for Rodgers – who we all know so well, right?
But maybe I was too hasty, too willing to accept that Rodgers is always great, and that he’s still at the top of his game after 13 seasons with the team. Let’s take a look.
In 2017, Aaron played in only slightly more than six games, but he was healthy in those games and 238 throws is enough to afford some basis for comparison. Aaron’s passer rating was 97.2, putting him in eighth place among qualifying QBs.
From 2010 to the present, his rating (and ranking among his peers) has been: 101.2 (3rd), 122.5 (1st), 108.0 (1st), 104.9 (5th), 113.2 (2nd), 92.7 (20th), 104.2 (4th), and 97.2 (8th) in his shortened 2017 season. The pattern seen in his teammates holds true with Aaron too: there is evident and substantial slippage in Rodgers’ passing performance. After peaking in 2011, the decline is noticeable over the past six years. I’m not bothered by his failure to live up to his own previously-set standards – that bar was set impossibly high. However, I do find his decline when compared to other top quarterbacks pretty telling.
One’s first thought is that anyone’s performance declines as one ages. That’s true, but for very good quarterbacks, that decline isn’t usually seen until about age 36 or later. Forget all that talk about the window starting to close. Rodgers is 34 – he should be in his prime.
You think 36 years is inaccurate? The top four quarterback ratings of 2017 were turned in by Tom Brady (40), Drew Brees (39), Matt Ryan (32) and Ben Roethlisberger (35). Seventh ranked Alex Smith is 33, and right behind him was Philip Rivers, 36. Brett Favre arguably had his best year in 2009, as he turned 40. Peyton Manning was still a Pro Bowler when he was 36, 37, and 38 years old. MVP Tom Brady might not have peaked yet at age 40. Aaron, by the way hasn’t been first- or second-team All-Pro since 2014.
The decline shown by Rodgers’ stats is not due to his age. Nor is it due to injuries – unlike an ACL tear, a broken collar bone should result in complete recovery.
Let’s use 2016 as a good benchmark year, when Aaron had the fourth best passer rating and ninth best completion percentage. His yards per attempt, though, was only 14th best, and that fell to 15th last season – he once was reliably in the top five in this category. Most of his other stats show little change over the years.
What does Pro Football Focus, which grades each player on every play, have to say? It had Aaron ranked 11th in both passing and overall play in his abbreviated 2017 season. In addition to the usual suspects, his overall rating was below guys like Carson Wentz (5th), Russell Wilson and Case Keenum (tied for 8th), and Matthew Stafford (10th). Jimmy Garoppolo (49ers) and Patrick Mahomes (Chiefs) did not have enough throws to qualify, but these rising newcomers also had better passer ratings than Aaron.
In the last few years, Rodgers has been passed up by Tom Brady, Drew Brees, and Ben Roethlisberger. Matt Ryan, Russell Wilson, Kirk Cousins, Alex Smith, and Matthew Stafford are right on his heels. In another year the young guys – Carson Wentz, Jared Goff, Jimmy Garoppolo, Dak Prescott, and maybe Mitchell Trubisky – will be seeking to rise to the top tier. And Nick Foles is not yet 30.
Conclusions
Like most of his teammates, Aaron Rodgers’ career is in a steady, though not precipitous, decline – a decline that cannot be blamed on aging or injuries. Given that Aaron is mentally and emotionally stable, and that he obsesses over nutrition, exercise, and preparation, I’d say his decline is due to external forces.
It can of course be argued that Aaron’s receiving corps is a big factor for his sliding stats and the team’s overall offensive skid. I’ve been grappling with that issue for a year, and will revisit it soon.
Regardless of the causes, however, and given the team-wide pattern, it’s bound to dawn on Aaron that his full potential is no longer being realized in Green Bay. He’s got to be thinking: one way or another, change must happen. As I’ve said before, I don’t see why Aaron would be in a hurry to extend his contract, which runs until 2020 – and which would bind him to a tenuous situation for the remainder of his career.
Over the past three years, when I look at Aaron out on the field – between plays or on the sideline – I see puzzlement, frustration, annoyance, and anger. I no longer see the happy, relaxed, and confident guy who was the best quarterback in the league a few years back.
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You missed a McCarthy. Fixed it for you.
good article.
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Rodgers certainly started out 2017 better than 2016 when he was in a slump.
His receivers are older, his line is worse without Lang, and the Packers never commit to having a great 3D offense. Sure they got Bennett at TE. Does anyone remember a thing Aaron Rip did all yr?
maybe the way to get Rodgers playing great is to put an alpha male backup behind him that Favre had to put up with late in his career
Wow, that is some time consuming research i’m thinking. You say Garoppolo and Patrick Hohomes had a better passer rating than Aaron Rodgers? You researched that i’m assuming?
We can look at Rodgers 1st 5 games of the 17 season, and compare them to other QB’s and try to determine a pattern, maybe harken back to 2016 season. But we should take into account that the beginning of last season the O line was a mess, so that should be researched against other QB’s O line. Also, isn’t Rodgers a notorious slow starter? We should compare that against other QB’s to see if they exhibit the same pattern. But that would take a lot of flipping time, so lets just say fuck it and go with the eye test.
Lets go back to 2016, after the defense was shitting the bed during that 4 game losing streak, giving up 38 points per game (yes, you read that right), when Rodgers proclaimed “running the table”. Since then, what has Rodgers done? In the regular season, even including the Panther game last season after he was out 8 weeks and we don’t know if he was healthy, what did we get from Rodgers…..?
We got 31 td passes against 6 picks resulting in 10 wins and 2 losses. I’m not the smartest guy around, but i’m guessing that’s about 5:1 TD/INT ratio. I’m guessing Patrick Hohomes might even be impressed with that, along with most if not all the other QB’s you mentioned.
The only critical stage about Rodgers is the circus tent he has to work under.
To clarify, Mahomes had a higher PFF passer rating than Rodgers, though Rodgers had the better overall rating by PFF, and a considerably better rating using the traditional passer rating formula. It’s not very meaningful since Mahomes threw only 35 passes. What’s meaningful is that the 22-year-old “flashed brilliance” – enough that the Chiefs felt confident in trading away Alex Smith. Kansas City is banking on him not being the next Hundley.
Kind of my point Rob….why even bring Mahomes into the conversation with his one career game?
That’s as foolish as constantly putting a guy on a pedestal because he had a 129 passer rating in pre-season…once, or because someone caught a hail mary pass and actually caught a back shoulder pass.
Side note: Mahomes was the Chiefs 10th pick of the 1st round, I think Alex Smith’s fate was determined at that point. You don’t draft a QB that high unless you plan to use him.
Did anyone hear McCarthy at the combine saying that the reason his coaching staff hasn’t been up to par is because the outgoing coaches from previous didn’t train their replacements well enough?
“McCarthy revealed at the Combine when coaches like Ben McAdoo, Joe Philbin, or other assistants left for higher paying jobs, the Packers coordinators did a poor job of training their younger replacements.”
Holy fuck, do you take responsibility for anything there coach? I don’t know how much more of this shithead I can take..
Man I felt this way about him back in 2009 and his “pad level” speak bullshit. It has only gone downhill from there. Unfortunately Rodgers won a Super Bowl in spite of that assclown, buying McCarthy endless amount of time it would seem.
Hombre you are mispronouncing his name. It is buffoon buffoon buffoon
Time to trade Rodgers to Cleveland for a load of draft picks. It will free up tons of money to rebuild defense/ team , many free agent qb’s out there to allow time to groom a high draft pick rookie qb.
Usually…..i would describe how idiotic that move would be. But…..if someone were to be absolutely 100% positive that Rodgers won’t win another Super Bowl with Green Bay, it’s actually not a bad idea.
If i may play GM for a moment. I wouldn’t do it unless Rodgers requested it. Plus i’m not absolutely 100% convinced Rodgers won’t win another Super Bowl here.
I’m only at about 99.8%