Ah, Good, Aaron Rodgers Wants A New Contract
There are two ways to look at this.
At an average of $22 million annually, Aaron Rodgers is still underpaid by NFL standards. In 2017, jerks like Andrew Luck, Carson Palmer, Drew Brees, Kirk Cousins and Joe Flacco will have higher average salaries. With the possible exception of Brees, none of those other dopes can touch Rodgers.
More so, we all know the value of Rodgers to the Green Bay Packers.
When you only “draft and develop” and you have a high percentage of undrafted free agents getting significant playing time, then you’re more or less counting on the greatness of your quarterback to lead you through each and every year. Therefore, that guy should get paid accordingly.
The second way to look at this is pretty simple. The more the Packers pay Rodgers, the less money they have left over to pay other guys.
So let’s forget about the pipe dream of actually adding an outside free agent for a second. You pay Rodgers more, you’re then going to lose more of your own guys, who you have supposedly spent all of this time developing.
Rodgers was on Wilde and Tausch this morning and they asked him about Mike Glennon — Tampa’s backup — being the hot free agent QB this offseason. Glennon is reportedly in line for what some — us included — would consider an asinine payday for his body of work.
Has no one learned from the Brock Osweiler debacle in Houston? Apparently not…
Aaron Rodgers on if Mike Glennon possibly getting $15M/year in free agency should lead to talks about his own contract: "I think it has to."
— Jason Wilde (@jasonjwilde) March 8, 2017
So if some clown show pays Glennon (18 career starts, 4,100 yards, 30 TDs, 15 INTs, 84.6 rating) that kind of money, then obviously Rodgers feels he should earn more.
Ironically, it appears the clown show in question here will be none other than the Chicago Bears.
Is Rodgers right?
Sure, going back to reason No. 1.
Here is what else I would say to Aaron Rodgers.
You want to “reload” and be “all-in” this season as you said at the end of last season? You want some support? Maybe an actual semblance of a defense?
Because you’re aware that if your defense can stop someone that there’s less pressure on you, right?
Then you should be the first guy standing in line to help out the team so they can go out and get that No. 1 cornerback or another pass rusher or maybe re-sign Nick Perry, Jared Cook AND T.J. Lang. Two of those guys actually directly affect your own success.
Frankly, this is easy.
This is the final year Rodgers’ current contract will have bonus money count against the salary cap. The Packers could convert some of his future salary into a bonus, give it to him now and then have more flexibility in future years. The bonus would be prorated over the remaining years of the deal and it would lesson Rodgers’ salary and thus, his cap number.
The Packers could also extend the deal, which runs through the 2019 season, put more money in the form of another, larger bonus and gain additional financial flexibility.
Tom Brady does something like this for the Patriots seemingly every year.
So, your move, big guy!
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He’s hinting he wants out. He,like Favre before him,knows Ted blows and has had the luxury to f 2 great QBs and has shown nothing else except maybe a hit here and there. He knows TT is not going to ever build a defense so he’s pretty much saying “pay me” . If he knew Ted would do Something,ANYTHING, he might be will to renegotiate ala Tom Brady,but TT and Murphy are not Kraft or Belicheck. Let the Rodgers watch begin. That being said I hope I am so wrong.
The timing by Rodgers was poor. He should have waited until free agency was over and TT resigned a few players (bye bye Lang and Tretter at the least) and one average to below average outside free agent (Maybe House). Then he knows TT will be keeping an extra ten million after draft pick contracts just to enrich the Packer power brokers who are in it for the money and have the fans duped about how they “own” the team. Strike THEN. Force the team to be all in and to pay him an extra 10 million. That way Rodgers gets a fair contract without effecting what was going to be on the field anyway.
So what you’re vast football knowledge tells you is…Ted keeps 10 million/year to enrich people? Did i read that right junior? Just curious, who are these “Packer power brokers” that receive this money. Give us some names…or at least…name some fictitious characters your imagination can dream up….lol
You sure about that cowboy? Think it might be worth actually finding out what happens to that money, instead of making things up as you go along?
I don’t mind showing off your lack of intelligence, but at least try to make it harder for me.
This is way too easy.
C’mon man, don’t be shy…show everyone how you beat me in any logical discussion, like you stated in another post. Give it your best shot. Here i am.
That shit you spew is easy to type, tougher to back up isn’t it Nancy.
About what i figured……
You really struggle to keep that wool over your eyes don’t you?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/06/league-limits-packers-ability-to-sell-non-stock-stock/
or…
http://www.lakeshorelaments.com/?p=11362
or…
http://www.businessinsider.com/green-bay-packers-shares-2012-3
or…
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/sports/nfl/3-reasons-why-buying-green-bay-packers-stock-beyond-stupid
So, there you have it. I know you don’t trust me but what about financial experts?
I found out a few things from these articles that I had not known. I laughed disbelievingly to learn that when you pay $250 for one share of stock you also have to pay another $25 for shipping and handling. A scam within a scam!
I also found out the team will buy it back from you. For 2.5 cents! OMG!
And I learned that Murphy plans on the team playing in that decrepit junk pile of a seat-less stadium until LATE 2020s! And it is already currently the worst most uncomfortable stadium in the NFL!
And I learned you can be fined for many of the things you do as Mordecai or as Monty or as PF4L! You paid to open yourself up to fines! Oh my!!
The Packers report huge profits=
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/06/24/packers-report-record-profit-revenue-for-2015-season/
But, even so, have a crap pile stadium. If non-profit, why not spend the 10 million unspent salary cap each year they could? You know, in order to improve the team? Isn’t that what the OWNERS (you sorry foolish bastards) would want?
They say they are using the extra money to buy up land in Green Bay. With such profits they should own all of Green Bay and part of Milwaukee by now. But… they don’t. And, if they did, is that really what you the fans and owners want? “Oh, please buy up all our houses and then rent them back to us at elevated prices …!”
Board members have been implicated in real estate scams related to Packers purchases. They know what land will be purchased so they buy it first and then sell it to the Packers at elevated rates… or they help the team decide to buy their land… at elevated rates. Or they do it via friends — almost untraceable — and get a cut back in return.
Allegedly a charitable organization. OK, some money goes there — as it does with all the other teams as all the teams participate in charity. But you did not buy shares out of charity. Credit goes to foolishness and gullibility. You could have just taken the $250 (really $275) and given it directly to charity. Even today $250 given to a charity, as just one for instance, could feed and provide clean water for 5 Guatemalan children — for an ENTIRE YEAR! So, you could have helped those poor little kids … but instead… you handed that money (+$25) to the Packers to misuse as they wish. My God, they use a lot of that money to pay Ted Thompson! To do, like, one fourth the job of GM but get an entire GM salary in the millions! I ask you: Is that really a good use of your money? To help make TT a many times over millionaire? That your favorite charity?
OK, I backed it up and beat you in yet another logical discussion and provided sources and independent confirmation. Happy, Monty McMahon?
No one is going to your read post dumbass…The money is rolled over….
The money is rolled over….
The money is rolled over….
The money is rolled over….
My question to you wasn’t about stock, and you know it. Moron
ROLLED OVER…..understand?…the money goes to the following years cap? You get it yet?….still confused? The money is rolled over….
This isn’t rocket science. How long did it take you to put that post together? lmao…Holy shit.
You were wrong dumb fuck. Don’t admit it, i give no fuck…lol
Nancy….You didn’t talk about stock in your post, i didn’t talk about stock in mine…then you write a novel on stock.
Either you’re too much of an asshole to answer a simple question. Or you are too stupid to understand the question.
Either way, a logical discussion with you, is thereby impossible.
This should not be a surprise. I have mentioned several times since Sitton was released that Rodgers agent would be derelict in his duty if he did not try to renegotiate a new contract for Rodgers before 2018 when Rodgers has no dead cap hit to the team. This is the best time to start that process.
My guess is Rodgers is bringing this up now to:
1. Start the process so it is done before the start of this regular season.
2. Put pressure on Ted to go all in.
3. If Ted does go all in then Rodgers would probably help the team in salary cap hit for this year and the next couple of years by still getting more money, but structuring the contract to help sign needed players. If Ted does not try to upgrade the team then???
If Rodgers helped out the team in salary cap, and when I say that it does not mean Rodgers will not benefit from an extension by receiving substantial bonus money. I would also hope Cobb and Matthews would help out the team salary cap also by taking pay cuts.
The problem is Teddy bipolar bear wouldn’t know how to spend all that money.He’s not used to that.
Besides he probably will be drooling over some youngsters at some college during free agency.
I think you’re both right.
Don’t underestimate stupidity. Ted may respond by securing more money for Rodgers and thus not going after external free agents and keeping less of our own guys.
This is more likely ^^^^
The smart move is giving Rodgers a new 6-8 year deal. Keeping his salary down to earth, but giving up a sizable signing bonus that you can pro rate for the length of the deal, freeing up cap room TO SIGN TALENT. trust me the Packers can afford the signing bonus easily, out of the rainy day fund. Guess what Ted…..it’s raining.
In Brady’s career, he’s made 20 million more in his signing bonus, than he has in his cumulative salary. There is a reason they do that. Up to now, Brady never had a salary higher than 8 million. Yes, you read that right.
The downside to that is eating dead money at the end of the deal for a year or two if need be. But by then, it won’t fucking matter, we’ll be searching for the next Aaron Rodgers.
It would be nice if Rodgers signed a team friendly deal. But I wouldnt if I were him. Unless TT shows some sort of committment to improving the team by any means necessary, I would tell the packers to fuck off
I’m a new fan since mid January so bear with me. Is there any team which would give him a better chance at a Super Bowl than if he stays with the Packers? He deserves a crack at another SB. So does Jordy Nelson for that matter and some of the others if I understand what I read in this learning journey.
“Rodgers should approach the organization and offer to restructure his contract and play for $16 million like Brady has, and the packers use that extra $6 million or so to sign an extra guy or two?” – handicapped reader
As i explained to our handicapped reader who posted just the other day that Rodgers should take a pay cut to help the team like Brady. I explained….what’s the sense if Ted isn’t going to spend the extra money he has. This handicapped reader now asserts if he were Rodgers, he wouldn’t take a team friendly deal. So……i’m glad i could educate again. I do not wish to identify the handicapped reader, as he is highly emotional. so out of respect, i won’t, But again….he’s welcome to learn under my tutelage.
Now…Let’s get to it….
Personally, i think Rodgers “value” to this team is closer to 25-30 million, in “actual” value. Lets be real, without Rodgers all we got is a circus full of clowns.
The system is broken, we under pay those who produce, and overpay those who underachieve. It’s seriously that simple. That’s besides all our draft and develop problems.
I have zero problem if Rodgers or even Jordy wanting a new deal. Rodgers is around where he should be, but he needs some new structure in his contract, even a new extension and signing bonus pro rated out to lower the cap. Jordy is grossly underpaid when you look at his production to the top 5 highest paid receivers.
I wouldn’t like it, but i’ve been on record as saying i wouldn’t begrudge Rodgers wanting a new deal, requesting a trade, or leaving after his contract is up.
I can only really say that because i don’t see good things ahead until at least, Ted is gone. This team is falling apart before our eyes. So much so my soul bleeds thinking about it. But even after Ted leaves, how long does it take the new GM to repair Teds damage? About the same time Rodgers retires?
What’s the fucking sense of even having Rodgers, if were fielding teams, mainly bad defenses, that just fold and get embarrassed in the playoffs, almost on a yearly basis? What’s the payoff? Getting in the playoffs? That’s fine if your the Queens, Lions, or the Bears and you don’t have an Aaron Rodgers.
I’m looking for better days (years) down the road, to me, all this getting in the playoffs, is just suffering to me…..but i’m afraid for the future of this franchise, it’s hard to find 3 NFL franchise QB’s in a row. It just doesn’t happen, finding two in a row almost never happens.
Favre and Rodgers, for what will be about 30 years, and 2 SB wins to show for it. I appreciate the 2 Super Bowls, i really do. But to have 2 QB’s like that for close to 30 years. We should have more.
Troll- One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers.
This statement from above should read “The more the Packers pay Rodgers, the less money they have left to overpay other guys.” Because we all know its coming. Can’t wait to read the collective “WTF?” comments here when it does.
If they renegotiate Rodgers contract, the Packers will never win the Super Bowl again. I was hoping Rodgers would take a pay cut so that they could sign their own players, but it looks like that’s not going to happen.
Most of the teams that have won the Super Bowl lately had cheap quarterbacks (Seattle, Baltimore) or a quarterback that took salary cuts to sign defensive players (Manning, Brady). Teams with the top paid quarterbacks never win the Super Bowl again.
Both of those teams, also had the luxury of having A #1 defense. It happens every now and then, but most teams that win the super Bowl have a franchise QB. There are exceptions like i said. Trent Dilfer and the Bucs strong defense. Ben Rothlisberger who was pathetic in his 1st Super Bowl win. But the Steelers defense was shut down.
Even Denver, Manning was not good in the Super Bowl, but the defense shut down and murdered the Panthers.
Since Young’s 14% during championship in 1994, only three other quarterbacks have eaten up 10% of their teams salary cap- Eli Manning in 2011 (11.7%), Peyton Manning in 2006 (10.4%), and Brett Favre in 1996 (10.2%). The average spend on a Super Bowl QB has been just 6.4%. If Brady wins the Super Bowl his cap percentage will fit between the Manning brothers at 11.1%. Russell Wilson’s 0.49% would rank below all others except for Brady in 2001 who cost just 0.47% of the Patriots salary cap.
Interesting. Where did you see these stats?
Sorry, Brady won SB of course…moving ahead of P. Manning…..