The Green Bay Packers’ loss to the Indianapolis Colts certainly was an ugly one. The Packers came into the game as a touchdown favorite. They were playing at home. Their opponent was two games below .500. It should have been an easy win.
And yet, it was a five-point loss that wasn’t even that close.
One of the things they say about winning is it masks a lot of problems. Even if guys aren’t happy about their roles, the play calling, they don’t get along with the coaching staff, they don’t like their teammates, etc., it doesn’t matter. When you’re winning, you can’t help but be happy. Winning is the bottom line and this is a bottom line business.
The Green Bay Packers aren’t winning though. At least not at the clip we and they have grown accustomed to.
Thus, it appears the discontent in the locker room can no longer be masked by winning football.
You had Aaron Rodgers calling out his teammates and their lack of juice during his postgame press conference. Rodgers wasn’t the only one ticked off, however.
During interview w Randall Cobb we could hear another player scream "I'm tired of this s***!" Tempers flaring in #Packers locker room
— Jake Zimmermann (@Jake_Zimmermann) November 7, 2016
The player was most likely defensive end Mike Daniels.
Mike Daniels said it was him who went on the shower-room rant following Sunday’s loss to the Colts. “If it doesn’t piss you off, that’s a problem and I think we have a lot of angry people in here.” When asked how they should respond, Daniels said: “like somebody pissed in your Cheerios.”
You know this can only go one of two ways.
The team — specifically the guys being fingered — will react, start to play better and things will turn around. Alternatively, the internal bickering will continue, the team will implode and the losses will mount.
There has been rumor of strife throughout the Packers organization since last season. Coach Mike McCarthy not on the same page as GM Ted Thompson. Rodgers not on the same page as McCarthy. Rodgers continually passing the blame to his receivers and linemen. The sideline spat between Julius Peppers and Ha Ha Clinton-Dix.
Nothing has come to the surface this season, but we wouldn’t doubt if it did, which makes the latter possibility all the more real.
It is beginning to appear that the coaches have lost the team and the team has lost faith in the coaching staff. That could make for a long season.
Not to worry, we just signed a Fullback, problem solved.
So Josh Sitton was right, but got canned for it. MM and TT are small men who cannot
take criticism, self-reflect, or adjust. This website, Monty and Shawn, and many
of the trenchant posters (you know who you are) have pointed out the central
problem of management and coaching. Thank you all.
You’re welcome Ted. Ive been saying its over since January of 2015 and it will never be righted until Ted and Mike are gone.
Good article. This is all part of the process, let me explain…..
There are some who believe that MM and TT won’t go anywhere, because no one will fire them. As i’ve stated in the past, i don’t believe that for a second. There are more ways to have changes made than being fired, although termination isn’t off the table.
We are in the beginning process of possible changes, but certain things would have to happen progressively.
1) You have to start losing. If this doesn’t happen, the rest is a moot point.
2) You have to have disruption and dissension in the locker room.
3) Coaches start to feel stress and pressures of losing, and losing the team. Media sessions become increasingly stressful.
4) The team finds itself outside of the post season race. Now you are playing for pride, jobs.
5) Prior loyalty to upper management from some team employee’s and players fade away. there are now negative news reports out under “anonymous” sources.
6) Coaches and executives continue to be stressed out, depressed and angry as the season continues. From losing, to losing the locker room, to negative information being floated around and constant bad media press.
7) I’ll call it reporters revenge……………For years, McCarthy has been arrogant, pompous, short and curse with reporters. When a coach is in trouble, reporters don’t have a memory problem. Reporters can smell blood and human nature dictates reporters take delight in the bloody waters.
8) The teams real power..the President and the B.O.D’s are now in play. The team is losing, getting a ton of negative press. Decisions have to be made. That’s assuming that someone tells Mark Murphy that he’s actually in charge of the Packers. He can’t continue just saying……” I don’t get involved in football operations”. That statement alone would give reason for the B. O. D’s to terminate Murphy.
9) There is also a slim possibility that TT and MM could resign. I say that only because both of them, are complete control freaks, and at this point, if it got this far, they would feel they lost control.
Now, if ALL OF A SUDDEN…..TT made himself more visible, more personable, humbled, accountable and MM lost his arrogance, his pompous attitude, and portrayed some humility etc, for damage control……..
I say…it’s too fucking late for this Packer fan. As i’ve stated before, i’ll pay for the plane tickets out of Green Bay. If the Packers keep losing, i say bring it on!!!
My worst nightmare is because of this easy schedule, the Packers finish 9-7 and somehow get in the playoffs, just to lose right away. And the same ol same ol continues.
Sorry for the novel, but i thought it needed to be written.
The question is does Murphy have the balls to go through with it? Tough call, hes the newbie in that group. It really feels like Ted is running the entire ship doesn’t it?
The Board of Directors have the final call. 70’s and 80’s old boys club excluded. The more you research this team from the 70’s and 80’s. The more you realize why this team was such a fuck story from top to bottom.
Making the work of Ron Wolf all the more impressive. For Packer fans, reading Ron Wolf’s book “The Packer Way” is a must read.
Look you fucking idiot the Board of Directors has ZERO, absolute ZERO control over the operations of this team. Where the fuck do you get this shit? The President has had absolute control over football operations since 1990. That has NOT changed. Mark Murphy can make any and all changes he wishes without a thought for who he has to answer to. Fuck man stop spreading bullshit.
You are too stupid to know how to stop the ad pop ups on this site, and you’re calling me an idiot….lol
This current President professes to have nothing to do with football operations.
Who do you think hires the the President of the Packers? Ted Thompson or the Executive Committee?
What if Mark Murphy got convicted of a crime like child abuse or something. Are you telling me he couldn’t be terminated by the Committee? You are a fucking fool.
Yes, the President can hire and terminate GM’s and coaches under him, i didn’t say he couldn’t. But don’t pretend that Murphy doesn’t have to answer to anyone, He is NOT the owner, and he doesn’t have 100% sole power
Under your misguided bullshit. Nobody, but nobody, can terminate Mark Murphy. And even though Murphy is one member of the executive Committee, if that GROUP wanted to change the GM or head coach, they can do it.
Maybe you should stop whining about the ads on here, and find a 10 year old kid that knows how to fix that for you, because obviously you’re too stupid.
No 8 needs to happen soon.
I guess something FINALLY is going to give here. Either fat Mike gets his head out of his stubborn ass or TT might just finally consider canning him. One or the either, we can’t keep this middle of the road bullshit anymore. The Raiders have less talent than we do, and have far outplayed the Packers, so yes I’m actually jealous of the Raiders coaching staff now, THAT’S HOW FUCKING LOW THIS HAS GOTTEN!!!
I’m jealous of the Raiders GM. McKenzie has done a hell of a job. Especially considering the state of the team when he took over.
Yep, any of the former Executives Green Bay had would have been better (Dorsey, Schneider, McKenzie) than jack-ass we’re stuck with!!
These guys were the ones that were giving TT “The Frugal GM” his draft choices earlier. That is why the Packers were doing better. Because the Packers had more talent on the field back then so that fucking Buffoon was offset by that talent that could actually make a difference with his insipid play calling. Now they are all gone, and doing fairly well . . . But the Packers? Not so much. This should be so obvious by now! This is a testament to how bad MM, TT and DC really are.
“it is not what an opponent does to a team but rather the unraveling of the team from within that will ensure its downfall. and – there…is…your…dagger!”
It appears to me, and a lot of other people, that a lot of other players on the Packer team do not want to play football. They appear to be injured or sick or just do not want to play. I’m sure they want to get paid though. It’s time to use some Vincent Lombardi routine on some of the players.
I agree about the Lombardi part, however I don’t think MM has it in him. How long has it been since MM really showed emotion during a game. He can’t because he is trying to stay focused on the next play call or series of play calls. In fact I believe MM’s theory is to not bring emotion into the game by the coaches, or players. I want coaches and players that show emotion during the game. MM to me does not motivate players during the game. I do not like Pete Carroll but he motivates his players, so did Bill Cowher, and Harbaugh, you even see Belechek go to the different groups and provide some words of wisdom or encouragement during breaks.
This is one of the problems with having the head coach be your offensive coordinator. Your defensive coordinator be away from the players. Your offensive coordinators be, well who the hell knows what those two do. The team needs a head coach that is focused on the entire team and shows some emotion during the game. It may motivate the players, and really isn’t that one of the head coaches job, to motivate players.
“Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The coaches who win are the ones who can motivate their players.”-Lombardi.
This team seems to have a lot of problems in the locker room / behind doors. They aren’t on the same page. Listen to Rodgers post game news conference, he blamed everyone but himself.