After Sunday’s discouraging loss, Aaron Rodgers is now clearly under the microscope – as he should be. One can’t help but look for explanations why the league’s 2014 MVP has declined so rapidly in less than two years.
Let’s try to rule in or out a number of theories.
First, I’d argue that the team around Rodgers has not declined – it’s one of the best in Rodgers’ eight years as the starting QB – on both the offensive and defensive sides of the ball. Rodgers has had decent pass protection so far this year – certainly better than that of the Minnesota Vikings’ Sam Bradford. Though the Packers’ rushing game wasn’t given much work, it again was superior to what Bradford had to work with. Rodgers’ supporting cast is just fine.
It’s not a physical problem. Rodgers had surgery to address a slight problem with his knee right after last season. He said that he is several pounds lighter this year, and coach Mike McCarthy added that he’s never seen Rodgers in better shape. At age 32, Rodgers should be physically in his prime.
There has to be a significant mental component to this decline in performance. There’s a lot of chatter about Rodgers having lost his confidence. Rodgers’ body and facial language seem to confirm this. The televised camera shot from behind the defense into the face of Rodgers on nearly every play against the Vikings showed that the projection of assuredness – swagger, even – of past years has vanished. But is this a cause or effect of his poor play?
It is by now a strong consensus that Rodgers has become reluctant to throw the ball as he works through his progressions. This has become more obvious each game, going back to at least week 6 of last year. Whether it’s a lack of confidence in himself or loss of trust in his receivers, one or both must be contributing heavily to this problem. The reluctance to let the ball go has gone from being a trend to almost an embedded habit. The question that we can’t adequately answer without viewing the coaches’ film is whether there are often open receivers when this is happening.
Though it’s less remarked on, Rodgers is also having a harder time than ever making completions when he breaks off a play and scrambles. I’m not sure if that’s due to failure to spot the open man or increased reluctance than in the past to make a risky throw.
Maybe he has lost some of his great ability to throw on the run – though his accuracy is off even when he standing solidly and not under great pressure. Rodgers was pressured 11 times by the Vikings and had no completions on these plays. Is “hearing footsteps” starting to get to him?
Is there a loss of concentration or focus? Late in the Vikings’ game, Rodgers threw to his immediate right to tight end Jared Cook, who was well behind the line of scrimmage and under 10 yards away. There was no defender around either player – yes, I could have completed the throw. The pass floated to Cook’s knees, where he failed to haul it in. I couldn’t see the entire field, but the broadcaster said there was room to run.
One last thought on accuracy: do we agree that Rodgers has lost his touch on deep throws? If so, why would that be?
In week 1, Rodgers repeatedly threw low or behind on passes toward the sideline. In week 2, there were some passes going way over the receivers’ heads. Does the inaccuracy suggest the quarterback is tightening up?
Can we at least stop with the excuses that are being made? One that I hope to never hear again is that it can take years for receivers to develop a relationship with Rodgers and earn his trust. However, in less than two weeks Sam Bradford seamlessly learned both the Vikings’ playbook and got in near-perfect sync with his new receivers. It’s not rocket science.
Nor do receivers have to be superstars. Adam Thielen went undrafted in 2013, and had only 335 yards in his NFL career going into Sunday’s game. Bradford worked as smoothly with him (four completions for 41 yards) as he did with Stefon Diggs – who is also no superstar at this point in his short career. There are countless examples of great quarterbacks, such as Peyton Manning, who excelled regardless of the quality of their receivers.
Can we throw another faulty notion into the dust bin? We’ve been told that Rodgers, in his 12th year in the league, no longer needs the preseason or tune-ups. McCarthy even believes he doesn’t need a lot of practice of any kind – the Packers had the most days off (13) from practice during training camp, and Aaron and several other veterans were excused from the final three days of minicamp in June.
Rodgers has looked anything but in-tune and sharp these first two games. The no-huddle offense is particularly not up to speed. There has been a lot of confusion over play calls and formations. Have team practices been too lax or too few?
I don’t have a lot of answers. What I do know is that a player who has known little criticism in his career is now going to have to face up to it, accept it, deal with it, and use it to make himself better. There’s an unprecedented weight on the two-time league MVP right now.
I don’t think Rodgers’ fabulous run from 2008 through 2014 is over. It’s just been interrupted – but time is of the essence if the 2016 season is going to be saved.
Last updated on January 11th, 2017 at 03:58 pm
I disagree on your assertion about it’s not physical- he’s not able to step into throws since his calf muscle was torn off his leg. He may be better after another year of healing, but he’s developed a lot of bad habits in the meantime that can’t be fixed if he won’t listen to coaching.
The Packers’ chances for a superbowl since the historic choke in the NFC title game have been about as good as Mike Sherman’s teams after their 4th & 26 loss to the Eagles. Just as the Packers didn’t improve until both the HC and QB were gone, the same is true for the current regime.
It does not take years to heal from a calf injury. It’s not like he tore his patellar tendon. That is a two month injury. Especially since he has access to some of the best sports medicine in the world
We have to get rid of Rodgers, he’s just a complete joke. This team has 99 problems and Aaron Rodger’s is all of them. Lets get rid of him, he’s done, finished, lets move on.
Maybe get a 1st and a conditional 4th rounder for him. About the same value as Bradford.
Lets do it!!
Come the fuck on? Really? Because franchise quarterbacks just grow on trees? Lets turn the reigns over to a second year backup with no regular season starts. Or maybe we can dredge the free agent pool? I hear Matt Flyyn is available, or Seneca Wallace. Maybe we can convince Vince Young to come out of retirement and give it another go.
Favre had shit-tacular seasons in 1999, 2000, 2002, especially 2005, and 2006. Yet there we were, an overtime away from the Superbowl in 2007 with him leading the way.
But no, you’re right. Let’d dump the fucking franchise because he’s hit a rough patch.
Listen, I’m as frustrated as everyone else with the ways (or lack there of) the team has been built in certain areas, the way shortcomings haven’t been properly mitigated, the trending downward production of a suddenly impotent offense… but you’re giving up on a guy that took within 5 minutes of the Super Bowl, just 19 games ago.
Give it a fucking rest and let the guy/team work through it. There’s 32 teams in the NFL, shit can’t always be sunshine and dasies. Go talk to a Browns fan.
Hey man!!…….check yourself. Aaron Rodgers is finished, he’s a has been. Haven’t you read the postings on these articles from Packer fans?
Lets trade him for Brian Hoyer and the bears top water boy, and lets move on from this sorry excuse of a QB.
Ssssslurp. Sssssslurp.
Yeah, complacency is always the answer. Look how well it’s worked out for manufacturing in Wisconsin. Every time I’m stuck in Racine, I always tell myself “Hey, it could be worse, I should talk to someone in Flint”.
Dude, stfu.
PF4L you’re cracking me up man…
Keep it coming…
Guys, we read way, way, way too much into body language and we make a lot of assumptions about relationships based on a few seconds of sideline footage here and there. We’re not in the huddles, we’re not in the locker room and we’re not in the films rooms — so anyone that is talking about how coachable Rodgers is or what his relationship is with the coaches or players is just making things up. Going by what we can actually see on the field, these are the actual issues:
1. The scheme run by McCarthy has become laughably predictable. Much has been made about the over reliance on 3 WR sets and a reluctance to create favorable match ups by digging deeper into the depth chart. McCarthy gives up on the run too soon and often subs in Starks just as Lacy is warming up. The physical design of the run plays are insane. Who pitches backwards our of the shotgun, forcing Starks to run 15 yards just to make it back to the line of the scrimmage. The Packers, that’s who. No one else as far as I can tell. The pass plays rely too much on long to develop deep routes run by receivers who struggle to get open, which brings me to part 2. (Rodgers takes some blame here as I assume he has a lot of influence on the offense they choose to run)
2. This is not the best team of players that Aaron’s been around. Not even close. Nelson has lost a step. Maybe he’ll regain it but right now he’s not 100%. Cobb also seems to have lost something over the years. We can’t overlook that he’s had his share of injuries as well. He doesn’t get great separation and doesn’t break tackles. He needs to be wide open to make a play. He’s a shaky #2. Adams shouldn’t even be playing professional football. Richard Rodgers is about as undynamic as tight ends come. And McCarthy seems intent on using Cook as a fullback. This recieving corps is a far cry from the days of Jennings, Driver, Nelson, Cobb, Jones and Finley all playing together. Our current receivers can’t get open and the whole league knows it. Add the fact that we just shipped our best overall lineman and I really struggle to see how this is the best team he’s had.
Rodgers should be good enough to play through some of this, but its time for him and McCarthy to adjust the playbook to the personnel they have instead of stubbornly plowing ahead with the same bullshit. Meanwhile, McCarthy and Thompson have to look at the weapons they’ve given Rodgers and honestly ask themselves if some of them aren’t actually weapons (ahem ADAMS). If not, they need to swallow their pride and make moves to get people on the field who can actually play.
People can say a real leader, a real quarterback should take ALL OF THE BLAME regardless if he deserves it or not. But all of that is just symbolic. It doesn’t actually fix any of the problems.
This! ^^^^^^^^ Well put!
Agree with you MM…..
You have described the Rams when Bulger tanked. Same exact commentary. I looked up the old articles. Burger lasted about 2 more years in the league.
We’re comparing the careers of Bulger and Rodgers now? Do those articles also indicate how many Super Bowls and MVPs Bulger won? You don’t have to look it up. I know the answer. None. Did those articles talk about all of Bulger’s injuries? (i.e. the real reason for his decline) But yeah other than those minor details their situations were exactly alike. Exactly. Thanks for the history lesson Deepsky.
Well, we could go and give The “Cadaver Thompson” the mirror test, see if hes alive, sure he could shed some light on subject? Maybe Ted could work his magic for another compensatory 7th rd draft pick for Rodgers?? Remember ‘In Ted we trust”! He solved the Punting issue that sleuth. BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The Mirror Test…..
Lmfao….
Where do you get this stuff dude ?
Just thinking about the calf injury. He was in alot of pain playing through that. Did he develop a painkiller habit from that injury? Could he have a substance abuse problem from that time period? Just a thought.
Valid question.
I have certainly have had the feeling something in his psyche has changed- he doesn’t look the same in closeups during games.
I think its a different habit, it started with the friggin discount double shit ads.
The boy’s got a hero complex that I think has finally gone to his head…
Signs are there :
1) Too good for pre-season
2) Yelling at teammates on national tv
3) Marginally accepting blame (using “we” instead of “I”.
4) Attacking press
5) Olivia…..
I have always wondered if his teammates (specifically the O-line) lost respect and willingness to give their full effort seeing this guy makes millions on TV ads while they get nothing…
I predict #52 will be the next to fall off for the same reasons mentioned above….
For coaches who complain they don’t have enough practice time due to the collective bargain agreement limiting practices, it sure seems funny you’d give guys even more time off than you need to. What, the fear of losing players to injury suddenly disappears immediately after preseason is finished? Too much down time, even for double digit veterans isn’t helpful either. If Rodgers and other veteran players no longer need practice time, then why practice any of them during the week when you could be giving reps to all the younger guys? That is simply stupid to say training camp means nothing but practice during the week means everything. So much for accountability and availability. What message does that send? “I’ll excuse you for the preseason/mini camp.” means no practice. Yet “You can’t play if you don’t don’t practice.” Isn’t not practicing, whether through injury or excused, still NOT practicing? Is only one sort of not practicing detrimental to the team?
Maybe McCarthy could platoon his practices during the week like he does his game plans. Only have veterans practice every other day during the week, and have the backups get much needed reps on the other days. Or better yet, have them required to only practice every other week. Starters one week, scrubs the next week. Win-win, right? What’s next, McCarthy going to ask Aaron if he wants his own locker room?
Amen . . .
All I know is that Aaron Rodgers is going to win the MVP this season…
For those who argue that AR is still playing well (questionable, at best), let’s say that we assume that this is correct. This team is built AROUND a QB payed to play exceptionally well (not “just well”) and make the WRs look better. How can two WRs making WR1 money not be enough? Who is up to his “standards”? WR1: Antonio Brown, WR2: Julio Jones, WR3: Larry Fitzgerald, TE: Gronk?
For those of you wondering if McHallmarkoffensiveplaysheet and the cadaver have lost this team, here are some bad trends. For the last 4 seasons the Packers have been in the top 8 in the league in false start penalties. For the last 2 seasons they have nearly led the league in delay of game penalties. Last season they had the most penalties in 6 years (105) putting them middle of the pack in the league. Rushing attempt, attempts/game, yardage, rushing avg, and yards per game all down the last two seasons. Packer running backs fumbled the ball more last year than they have in 6 years. Lowest rushing yards/game total since 2012 last year.
From 2010 -2012 the packers were tops in the protecting the QB and not holding or committing false start penalties. Since the 2012 season, these Packers have statistically been one of the worst offense lines in in the league, allowing Rodgers to be sacked 74 times in the last two seasons alone. Defensively in 2013 the Packers defense, when needed the most, gave up the most points in 7 seasons (428) with a game average of 26.8 with less plays from scrimmage from the previous year. That is the second highest yards per game since the 2011 “worst defense in NFL history” and turned out the worst turnover differential in 7 seasons with a -3. In 2015 with few offensive weapons who cared, the defense disappeared again. They racked up the most penalty yards in the last 7 seasons, and the least amount of forced fumbles since 2013.
Say what you want about Aaron Rodgers heart, and skills. This team and Aaron Rodgers have been let down by the organization and specifically McThumbupmyass and Ted Thompson. Personnel changes are done only when the head coach knows the hire is a friend and a yes man. The GM is incoherent most of the time and just as stubborn with a huge ego only matching his head coaches. There is no leadership to find in this organization and it has been apparent for a long time. In an effort to help and protect their prized QB the Packers, in the last eleven years have drafted 18 lineman. Here is the breakdown by round and where they are today.
1st-2, one with the team (Bulaga), 1 not with team
2nd-2, one with team (Springs), one out of football
3rd-1, he (Spitz) is out of football
4th-6, 3 with team (Lang, Bahktiari, Tretter), one in Chicago, 2 out of football
5th-4, 1 with team (Linsley), one with Giants, 2 out of football
6th-2, both not with team
7th-1, not with team
That is what has been done to protect a prized asset. Outside of Bulaga, Lang, Tretter and Sitton, and frankly this isn’t saying much, what has been done to better the line? This regime has maintained the status quo in a shitty division. They have done very little to improve or become more innovative. They have consistently treated the fans like morons hoping to believe their constant bullshit about improving the running game, and pad level and the process. This organization has real coaching issues and it starts with the top coach. We have real issues in the front office and it starts with the top suit. Stop wearing the green and gold colored glasses and get a grip on reality. This team relies on outlier seasons to justify years of inept coaching. If not for Rodgers, McButteredfatroll may not be a coach anywhere in the league.
I could only argue with 1 tiny point, but doing so would be a disservice, and would be disrespectful to the rest of the points you so accurately hit on. I’m happy to see that i’m not the only one who see’s upper management in the same light as i do.
Very well done Sir.
Well researched and written…
Very good points….
The “publicly” owned team is acting more like an oligarchy. The management is stale, not working to change antiquated game strategy that SD and Denver exposed lsdt season…. They were able to blame it on that poor slob Clements who I honestly think was trying to do his best last season.
Capers is done and the few times I saw TT in interviews he looked and sounded stoned. He’s over the hill. The top GMs in baseball are young, aggressive, highly motivated individuals, that trend is hitting NFL…
As I said last year, all the North Division rivals have made extensive coaching changes, grabbing proven leaders (Zimmer being the best) who are highly motivated to make their respective teams great again.
I suspect/hope that if season continues like this we may finally see some retirements/resignations and fresh blood. It would be worth a bad season and a few adjustment years..
Ice, i saw your previous post about almost hoping we’d lose, as the catalyst to implement change.
I have had those same feelings, back to last season. As a matter of fact, i’m 100% on board with that theory for one reason, that i could think of to justify me even having this thought process. That reason is simply because even if we recovered, and got into the playoffs, where are we headed, to another embarrassing playoff exit? So i think the means justify’s the end.
I won’t root against this team, i don’t have that in me, but if we kept losing, i’d have hope for change, change with the initials of TT and MM.
Like i’ve stated previously, those 2 couldn’t leave town soon enough for me.
Tough call for me also P.
I will never root against the Packers.
Fortunately we have no real influence.
Ive never veered off in the years since Dec-31-1967, when I started following this franchise. There were some really tough years especially in the 80’s – watching the Bears kick their asses regularly was painful – though it sure was easy to get tickets to road games in Phoenix.
But through it all I witnessed an organization that was committed to success. They recognized when things went bad and responded by hiring some of the best staff in the recent history of the NFL… . (Gruden, Holmgren, Marriucci, etc). In the process they had the guts to make tough choices and relieve the likes of Mr. Starr and Forrest Gregg from coaching duties as needed. (Its certainly not as bad as that, yet)….
At some point they’ll figure it out.
Hopefully before QB1 passes his prime.
Meanwhile, PF4L, keep your posts coming, I really enjoy (and get some chuckles) out of your stuff.
Amen . . .
Yep!
Brilliant and on point!
Nice! Spot on! I have been railing against those two charlatans for years. Send them packing now! They have created this environment that is currently in the Packers locker room and out on the playing field.