The Green Bay Packers and Pittsburgh Steelers have a lot in common.
The primary similarities that most people think of are the teams’ rich traditions and passionate fan bases. The other thing the Packers and Steelers have in common are how they do business.
Both teams build primarily through the draft. Thus, both teams spend little to nothing on unrestricted free agents.
In fact, the Steelers are actually the one team that has handed over less guaranteed money (since 2011) to free agents than the Packers.
Via @ESPNStatsInfo: Win % of tms spending least FA gtd money since '11:
29. Cowboys .500
30. Bengals .656
31. Packers .706
32. Steelers .613
— Jason Wilde (@jasonjwilde) March 10, 2016
You could say Pittsburgh general manager Kevin Colbert runs his football operation very similar to how Ted Thompson runs his.
There’s one glaring difference though.
Colbert will actually use free agency to improve his team if he believes the right player is available for the right price. He did exactly that when he signed free agent tight end Ladarius Green for four years and $20 million.
The Steelers needed a tight end with Heath Miller’s retirement and they weren’t willing to wait around until the draft to find that guy — a guy who likely would contribute next to nothing in 2016 anyway.
The Packers found themselves in a similar situation. The worst position on their roster is tight end and yet, they decided to sit the first week of free agency out.
The Steelers went and signed the top tight end on the market. A guy who’s 25 and can stretch the field. The type of player that is exactly what the Packers need.
This wasn’t a case of salary cap money to burn.
The Steelers had less than $10 million in cap space when the league year began. That put them very near the bottom of the NFL in that category.
The Packers had around $20 million to work with.
The Packers still have around $15 million to work with after re-signing linebacker Nick Perry, while the Steelers only have around $5 million.
The Steelers are likely done with free agency, but they’ve filled their biggest need without breaking the bank.
Exactly what the Packers should have done.
So Pittsburgh gets better and Green Bay just stays the same.
And the Steelers last won a Superbowl when?
But the Bronco’s, Seahawks, Patriots all utilize free agency, and the last time they all won a Super Bowl was when?
Nice try sport.
Yeah so do the Jaguars, Raiders, Titans, Dolphins, Bills, Jets, etc. and they all last won one when? NOW who’s cherry-picking?
Add the Bucs, Falcons, and Saints to that list. There you get one more SB out of hundreds of contenders in the past decade. Funny thing about most of these teams listed, they’re in salary cap trouble in one form or another (min/max). The Donkeys don’t have a QB, nor is it likely they’ll be getting a good one this year, the Falcons and Saints are fucked and one lost Jimmy Graham, the other their coach largely because of their cap issues. The Seahawks are having to aprt with good players as well.
All you Lambeau werewolf free agency nutters like to point out the collective SBs won by teams who dip into free agency, yet you conveniently forget 1) all those that didn’t win and what became of their caps and 2) that each team has only won ONCE (barring the Patriots who are a major exception-Brady/Belichick), seeing as the Packers are only ONE team not exactly fantastic odds, eh?
Most of those teams that don’t win, don’t have a QB son.
And the ones that DO have a QB win ONCE ever 15 years, son, YOU are welcome. Keep trying, one of these days you’ll have a legitimate point outside of the Olivia Munn arena.
BTW the Falcons have a QB, and now so do the Raiders, Jags, Bucs, Bills, and maybe even the Titans.
Yea, technically, they have a QB.
These are your examples of QB’s?
That’s a real who’s who of NFL QB’s.
And how many Super Bowls have they won? How many have they been in?
Don’t get me wrong bud, i take pleasure in educating you.
#7 written by Phatgzus
03/12/2016 – 3:31 pm
“And the ones that DO have a QB win ONCE ever 15 years, son, YOU are welcome. Keep trying, one of these days you’ll have a legitimate point”
Is that an example of a legitimate point from you phatgzus?
Interesting, would that explain why….
Brady won 4 Super Bowls in 14 years?
E. Manning won 2 in 4 years?
Elway won 2 in 2 years?
Terry Bradshaw won 4 in 5 years?
Montana won 4 in 8 years?
Aikman won 3 in 4 years?
Quit while your behind junior.
We’re talking about QBs on teams that spent big in free agency, PF, or did you forget the fucking subject?
All young QBs who had very good seasons, except for Matty Ice who has been a second-tier QB his entire career. Carr had similar stats to Rodgers and Bortles and Winston weren’t all that far off, and Taylor set the single season record for QB rating for the Bills. Seeing as most of these guys haven’t been around longer than two years how many Super Bowls do you want them to win, Brain? How many did Rodgers win in his first two years? Favre? Unitas? Starr? etc.
I love people who cherry pick stats. Idiots.
And the Jaguars, Colts, Texans, Raiders, Jets, Bills, Dolphins, etc all utilize free agency too.
Nice try, idiot.
Keep fucking that chicken, Monty!!
Steelers didn’t beat the Packers at their own game… they actually spent money on a FA. So really, the Packers are still tops at staying away from FA’s.
They are also tops at getting into the playoffs, and getting a quick dismissal.
They do not get it PF4L . . . they are happy standing pat and winning the reg. season. Stepping out of their comfort zone and taking any kind of chance is so SCARRRRRRY . . . being an apologist and hanging onto coattails is safer, and then they do not have to grow any balls. They can just toss invectives at the rest of us whilst remaining cunts through the process. Safe and clean. Things have not changed for centuries . . . “stone them!” burn those witches!” . . . these sayings are their safety net. Fucking weak sisters.
The thing you TT lovers keep coming back with is how those shit teams keep spending and it doesn’t work. Nobody has ever said we should spend that kind of money… All anyone is asking is we at least pick up one to help us out… Like a TE or ILB. But fucko ted won’t even entertain the idea. He’s a fucking living joke in that respect. Why is it such a horrible idea just to fill a hole or two through FA???
Because there is something in the kool aid they drink that clearly disrupts any logical thought process.
Because we already have a more productive TE on our team than was in free agency and TWO ILBs very similar to the free agents, not to mention the draft has a good number of talented ILBs. How hard is that to understand? Holy fuck.
Amen Big B.
Heres the difference, those winning teams are signing and drafting players, and those shit teams are signing the castoffs from the winning teams that they no longer want to pay. Difference is the good teams like broncos and seahawks develop replacements for the departures, the packers let the guys they “develop” hit free agency just so they can find out nobody gives a fuck about them and the packers can get them back even cheaper
Well to be fair, the guys the Packers are “developing” aren’t exactly world beaters. And to say drafting on the defensive side of the ball has been suspect, with the exception of last year, would be an understatement. Aside from casting Charles Woodson off the island too soon, Cullen Jenkins was probably the guy they should have retained.
There’s a big difference in trying to improve your team when you have the Brady’s, Rodger’s, and Wilson’s of the league vs the Tannehill’s, the Taylors, and the Bortle’s, etc, in terms of immediate success of getting to the end goal.
And people, it’s not just free agency, it’s also improving your team, by trades, whether draft day trades, or others. It’s called being proactive trying to improve your team. Because at the end of the day, if you ignore your weak positions on the team for years, they aren’t going to fix themselves. How long have we been talking TE’s. ilb, off line depth? Yes, years.
Now put down the kool aid, and really think about this shit, because frankly, i’m getting tired of explaining it to you fine people.
Your comments about improving the team are spot on. Aside from moving up to draft Mathews in 2009, Thompson prefers to stand pat or usually trade down as we all know. In the time he has been GM in Green Bay, there hasn’t been 1 single player he coveted enough to try and pull the trigger on trade?
Wolf wanted the Jets to draft Favre. Wolf loved Favre, and that carried with Wolf when he came to Green Bay. I remember after Wolf traded a 1st rounder for him thinking “Who the hell is this Favre guy?” That turned out fairly well. (Maybe even enough to erase the stigma of the John Hadl trade.)
Now, I don’t know if there was someone Thompson thought highly of or not. I still believe McCarthy has input into the makeup of the team, despite McCarthy whining about Thompson not addressing team depth and standing pat. However, I do think there were players who could have helped had an effort been made. And maybe Thompson has reached out but been denied. It isn’t like the Packers are going to be transparent and announce they were rebuffed yet again in free agency. So all we are left to do is speculate, although the evidence looks pretty damning in saying Thompson doesn’t participate in free agency or trades.
I agree with not going the route of the Redskins and spending money like a drunken sailor. And who really cares if there are agents out there laughing at what Thompson does? Most agents are gold digging tools anyhow. They can laugh all they want because the Packers won’t overspend for their shitty client. I KNOW someone mentioned Joe Johnson here in the last week or so. Unfortunately there are those dumb ass owners who break ranks and overspend on some middling player, that totally skews the cap for everyone else.
I don’t understand why these guys all sign on the first day of free agency anyhow. Why not shop your services and see how things play out, like Reggie White did? He even said he hadn’t considered Green Bay in the beginning. That turned out rather well in the end.
AND NOW… they have to go find a good receiver to replace Mat… Bryant… with 5 million left… good luck with that.
Ryan = Tavarius… Yeah.
And NOW we have to find a good DT/NT because Pennel likes pharma. Come on, Perupack, having players behaving like junkies happens league wide.