The Green Bay Packers fired tight ends coach Jerry Fontenot on Tuesday, as well.
Fontenot, who had been with the Packers since 2006 and served as tight ends coach since 2012, joins running backs coach Sam Gash in the unemployment line.
It’s another curious move by the Packers, who didn’t exactly give Fontenot much to work with.
The team hasn’t had a dynamic receiving threat at the position since Jermichael Finley injured his neck in 2013.
And yet, it looks like Fontenot is being held responsible for Ted Thompson’s inability to find a playmaker and Gash is being held responsible for Eddie Lacy’s work ethic.
The other #Packers coaching staff change is TE coach Jerry Fontenot. Source said underachieving players at RB and TE was the reason.
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) January 19, 2016
Seems totally reasonable to us.
When does Ted Thompson get his walking papers for not doing his job?
Monty how are you a packers fan when you get mad at every single thing that happens with the packers.
Jeff Janis will be at 1265 Lombardi ave for all you total packers posters for his weekly glory hole session
Janis started 1 game and damn near won it with several outstanding plays. How many games were essentially thrown away by Adams poor play, including what may have been Bart Starr’s last time in the house?
^ this. And I don’t think anyone could’ve done any better with that worthless fuck Richard Rodgers.
In regards to worthless fucks, it is kind of hard to not picture Quarless. Was Fontenot with Quarless in Miami? TT should have released Quarless as soon the bullets flew, and I said that when it happened. Keeping Quarless was a bad example. What did Quarless do this year to help the team? If you can get away with what Quarless did in Miami, you can easily get away with being out of shape, overweight, attempted manslaughter, child endangerment. In regards to being overweight RR could also stand to lose some poundage. Good hands, slow as hell. No 5 yard outs. He is a straight line or angle runner. Should not expect RR to make 90 degree cuts and get up to speed before AR is sacked. The O lineman are faster off the snap than RR even injured. You cannot coach speed or gun safety.
Wow. Way to point fingers at coaches instead of players. The tight ends and rb coach are let go due to players being overweight n slow. Rodgers will never be better than what he is now. A fat slow moving tight end who’s only good in the redzone. If you need more yards after the catch you better hope no one is around him.
Dear Packers Organization,
WE DEMAND SOMEONE BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE!!!!!!
(but not this guy)
Phat…I believe these comments are rooted in the belief that on it’s surface, these firing are unjust.
Instead of being a smart ass, how about making a case if you think they are justified?
If in fact, you have no viewpoint on it at all, then do the right thing and just stfu.
You think that maybe, just maybe Ole’ Jerry’s coaching was part of the problem with the TE unit production this year? Oh by the way, he was the TE coach since ’12, so he taught last year’s group as well-he coached Brandon Bostick (not just Slocum). He was also the assistant OL coach when Rodgers career was starting, and we all know how staunch those lines were. Maybe, just maybe Fontenot, more than some other coaches, was indeed “one of MM’s guys”. Oh look, I did have a viewpoint, one that was mildly informed. So by all means, PF, I’d enjoy hearing yours, is that beyond your purview as TP Blog Monitor?
Funnily enough, I din’t see you voicing your displeasure at Slocum’departure, was he not also a fall guy? or perhaps neither had performed their duties satisfactorily for a number of years>
Penny for your thoughts?
Slocum was fired for poor job performance over the course of years, and in my opinion, it took too long to hold him accountable, like many others.
I have no clue if Jerry Fontenot should have been fired. But i know this, He doesn’t draft or bring in players. He try’s to coach the players he’s supplied with. Last time i checked, you can’t coach a slow lumbering tight end to run faster.
I highly doubt that Fontenot has anything to do with coaching the hands team on special teams. To insinuate that he’s at least partially responsible for Bostick’s game costing brain aneurysm is laughable.
It would be nice if Gash could turn Lacy into Walter Peyton. It would also be nice if Fontenot could turn Rodgers into Gronkowski.
Why don’t we just call this what it is, 2 fall guys being fired, because the situation demands that someone has to answer for the playoff failures of the last 5 years.
Go listen to McCarthys last presser, it’s 23 minutes long. Out of that 23 minutes, how much of that time did he take responsibilty for the failures he discussed or are evident with this team? Would it surprise you if he didn’t take any?
PF, you are correct. Fat Jesus who has NO SKIN IN THIS GAME. He just reminds me of suck asses at work. But suck asses at least have some “skin in the game”. He does not . . . It amazes me that guys like him continue to be apologists for people that they most likely do not even know. Next thing you know he will be defending Justin Bieber for something truthful said about him that he does not want to believe . . . because you know, Celebrity is soooo cool. Gotta polish the shoes of the “Big Guys” and not question a fucking thing . . . because you know! He’s the best of the best! Fuck! LOL!!
Last time I checked, Rob Gronkowski isn’t the Incredible Flash, nor is Jason Whitten, Antonio Gates, etc. The point being he IS responsible for teaching RichRodg how to run routes, good route runners don’t need speed (but not vice versa). He’s also responsible for teaching them blocking, and to do their fucking jobs whether they’re on offense or special teams.
The point you are conveniently glossing over is that he HAS had talent OTHER than the current pool of players, including players like Wells and Clifton when he was an OL coach and those lines were not very good overall. He had Jermichael Finley, an incredible talent who never developed. GMs are responsible for finding talent, position coaches are responsible for developing it.
Finally, no reporter asked MM to take responsibility for anything,. This line of thinking is ridiculous, MM has come out in the past and accepted responsibilty for failures of the team, so don’t act like h tries to pawn it off onto others, that’s asinine.
That’s Phatgzus to you, my friend. LMFAO, I’m no MM apologist, I’ve criticized him before, the Turkey Day Massacre for one. I AM an apologist though, an apologist for logic. You see because without it, the world would be run by people like you. Everyone would be fired the instant they made a mistake, countries would be nuked over disagreements on taxes for fucking spice imports, and Hammurabi’s code would be the system of Justice.
No MM is not THE best, but he is ONE of the best. Look at the level of success he’s had, oh yeah it’s ALL Aaron Rodgers, well guess what bud? good ol’ Billy Bob was shit without Tom Terrific. Who were our fucking starting receivers for the Divisional game? And we took the Super Bowl favorite down to the wire, would’ve won if Sam Shields could catch the football (THERE is your scapegoat). But by all means, let’s fire MM and the dude who brought us Aaron Rodgers, Clay Matthews, Mike Daniels, Jordy Nelson, and company. Good. Fucking. Plan. Now who is AVAILABLE (FYI that means NOT retired) that we can replace them with
Incidentally, you DO have skin in the game? What are you an out of work coach hoping to have A-Rodg as your QB? or maybe Jerry Fontenot’s darling lover girl?
“GMs are responsible for finding talent, position coaches are responsible for developing it.”
So by your own account Phat, if a coach cant develop players, then they should be gone also right? So why isn’t Capers, Alex Van Pelt, James Campen fired yet?…smart guy. What?…..James Campen can’t develop Barclay into a good pass protector? Gee, why isn’t he fired then?
Why can’t Alex Van Pelt develop Janis, and especially Adams, and what happened to Cobb? Did McCarthy fire Pelt?
Capers?….What year should i begin with his epic failures?
“Finally, no reporter asked MM to take responsibility for anything,. This line of thinking is ridiculous.”
So if a reporter doesn’t ask McCarthy, he should offer nothing on his own? PLENTY of coaches, winning coaches, take at least partial blame for their teams performance (happens every week). Not McCarthy, why?….Why should he? Nobody questions big Mike!!..NOBODY.
Go eat another 3 pizza’s big Mike, you fat undisciplined fuck.
Keep drinking the Kool-Aid Phat. Lets lose for another 5 years, then watch Rodgers retire.
Capers is NOT a COACH, he is a COORDINATOR (same goes for Sharpe). They are NOT directly involved with players the MAJORITY of the time, unless it’s a star player who they trust to talk over scheme with (Rodgers, Matthews, Peppers, Wood, etc.). Their job is largely to create a defensive playbook based on personnel and schemes and create a gameplan every week. You have an issue with player performance, that’s on the GM and his position coach, period. And in fact Capers’ POSTSEASON defenses have almost all performed quite well sans 2-1st AZ, and 1st SF. The O had 3 or 4 TOs in that Rodgers’ loss to the Giant-one deep in their territory (as Rodgers was about to throw a pass to a wide open GJ in the end zone) and two deep in our own territory. The second SF game Hyde dropped a pick at midfield so Capers had him in perfect position to win it after the D had handled SF for much of the game, and he dropped it. Versus Seattle the D was on the field for 16= series before OT! SIX-FUCKING-TEEN, and held the Seahawks to essentially 0-3 points (TD was on STs) while picking Russell Wilson FOUR times and spending most of the day in the backfield. It took meltdowns on the other 2 sides of the ball, chiefly STs. The D just shut down the ‘Skins and had shut down Arizon for much of 3 quarters and likely would’ve won us the game if Sam Shields could catch.
On to the receivers. Adams is in his second year, so are Janis and Abby (practically, his first) and many receivers do not develop for a number of years (look at ALL of the Packers receivers)-that’s what happens when you draft developmental receivers which is what TT does, I really hope you’re not questioning TT’s success with WRs. As for Janis and Abb, guess what? both HAVE developed, or did you miss the Divisional Round. But sure DON’T give Van Pelt any credit for that, nah let’s instead focus ALL of our efforts on blaming MM for not playing them earlier, because we KNOW what they were capable of at each stage of the season because we have info on EVERY single one of their practices and training exercises and know how they’ve performed and whether they have good habits or not. THINK, just for one second, PF4L. As for Adams, he was shit this year, he was also hurt and that doesn’t make up for anything but it hinders his progress, that is indisputable. Cobb was also injured to start the season, he was double-covered, and most importantly, faced 7, 8, 9-man boxes which takes away the short-medium mddle of the field where he does the vast majority of his damage. You don’t fucking think opposing D-Coordinator’s adjusted there scheme specifically to take away one of the Packers’ only Weapons? As a result MM used out of the backfield more than he ever has, and when he did so the offense was often at it’s best. You know why? Because Cobb is still a dynamic player, even this year when he was pretty bad by his standards. Perhaps all of the drops were by him trying to do too much to make up for the lack of weapons, or perhaps he was afraid of contact because of his shoulder (I doubt it with him), who knows? I’M not one of his coaches and don’t see him 5 days a week for 4 months. THAT is the major fucking point I’m trying to get across about ALL of this. there, I spelled it out for ya.
As for Big Mike, I’ve said it more than once but I’ll say it again. He HAS and DOES take responsibility for things that he believes are his fault. I recall a number of times in pressers where he comes right out and says that it is his fault. You only need to watch the conferences and you’ll see that, and as you just recently referenced one of his longer ones I imagine you watch at least some of them. With that I’m done with that matter, the proof is captured on video, believe it or don’t.
And he went on and on saying blah, blah, blah……
Aaaaand declare this one over! Down goes Frazier! Ya got NOTHIN’ left, PF! NOTHIN’! Not a single logical point to refute mine and that’s why you’re resorting to this nonsense. Oh well, ya tried, you just reached your limitations. But guess what?! Here’s YOUR participation trophy! Fucking BOOM!!
It’s your world princess, paint the sky any color you’d like.
FAT JEBUS! I still believe that you are an apologist . . . but wait! I’ll add to that. You obfuscate the real bottom line in your retorts, because it is mostly conjecture, we all see the same data. Cold hard facts? you have no more than the rest of us. So logically you are full of shit as well. Or you are Buffoon (MM). Or you are that twit Vic Ketchman. That would seem to qualify why you maintain such a close “company” point of view . . .
Well I see ye’ pullt out yur own Cinonim Bewk, unfortunately it didn’t help you say anything of value, just empty rhetoric. I ain’t blockin’ shit my friend, if what I says confuses you then you don’t have a well-formed opinion as it is, and you’re just talkin’ out your ass because your mouth is busy doing other shit. Which is exactly my point.
By the way, I freely ADMITTED to being an apologist-of LOGIC, not any one individual. You can hate MM if you want, God knows he ain’t fucking perfect-a point I’ve never and will never attempt to make. But you just bitch about shit without having any facsimile of a rational thought process to support your hootin’ ‘n holleriin’, dOggy. Which brings me to the next point, you’re right, I don’t have any more data available to me than anyone else. I just make the effort to find as much relevant info to support my case. That is in addition to my own perceptions which I arrived at watching the games, the press conferences, and the manner in which the players, coaches, and team go about their jobs. This way I don’t look like an ignorant buffoon (my how the tables have turned, eh?) who just cracked his head on the granite rock that bounced me right off the ass end of the turnip truck. I’ve been doing this since I’ve become a fan of the game, just what I do. Not my problem if you don’t want to take the marginal amount of time and effort it takes to form a mildly intelligent concept. If you want to bash your skull against the wall all the while blabbering the same ill-informed tripe to no one in particular ad infinitum like you’re Ten-Second Tom, then by all means go right ahead. Clearly, portraying yourself as the village idiot of the Derek Zoolander Center for Children Who Can’t Read Good and Wanna Learn to Do Other Stuff Good Too riles your huckleberries sumpin’ fierce. To each his own.
Fat Jebus! My “well formed opinion” kept saying to play Janis because he could be a difference maker, and that I felt he was a “gamer” Well? I guess this “well formed opinion” was correct! It burns some of you homers when the “outliers” actually know instinctively more about players than you armchair “fanboys”! That Fat Jebus is the bottom line, and it eats at your pride . . . All any of us are, are Packer fans with different POV’s. But for some fucking reason(s) some of you take “guardianship” of Packer blog(s) opinions personally! Then it just continues down . . . this . . . path . . .
You keep on ignoring the whole “use logic to reinforce your points” criticism, I wonder why.
I f you wanted it to stop, you could oh I dunno, just stop responding, but here you are, once more into the fray armed nothing with vapid, irrelevant comments.
If the Packers would have re-signed Colt Lyerla the TE coach would still have his job…
It’s really unfortunate that we can’t fire fans.
Who’s next? A conditional trainer? Don”t think so that may be a real culprit. And we are not in the business to address those are we?
Breaking News: Mike McCarthy, Ted Thompson, and little Alfy Newmanall fired themselves today. Aaron Rodgers immediately demanded a trade to the LA Rams (because he’s Mr. Tinseltown, not Titletown) but was instead shipped off to the Detroit Lions. And to cap it all off, the statues of Vince Lombardi and Curly Lambeau-aided by a pair of magical old silk hats-gained consciousness and began to terrorize the city of Green Bay hurling snow boulders at cars, houses, and unwary passers-by.
And there was much rejoicing.
You go Ferlinghetti! . . . not!
Not exactly poetry, but good try, by your standards at least….
Here’s an idea, come up with something original yourself, Rowling. Or maybe that’s the issue, you can’t so you just hate on those who can in attempt to quell your feelings of inferiority. I f that’s the sad case, I got news for ya, it ain’t workin’, in all likelihood it’s having the opposite effect.
Breaking news Packers hire Mark Chmura as Tight End coach…he’s an expert.
Expert at the position or teen’s tight ends? Sorry, were we not supposed to talk about that anymore?
^ferris- hahahahaha that was well played sir.
Can we also promote Edgar Bennett to receivers coach?