Shawn (10-5, 10-5 ATS) — I have been going back and forth on this all week. I would say that a majority of the current trends favors the Minnesota Vikings to win this game. Teddy Bridgewater and the Vikings offense has played well the last two games, and the defense is back healthy, which it wasn’t during the ass-kicking delivered by Seattle.
I have said all year that the Vikings aren’t there yet, and I believe that is true as far as being a real contender for the NFC crown goes. However, sometimes it isn’t about you. Sometimes it is about the competition.
The Vikings should have this division, not because they have ascended past the Green Bay Packers, but rather, because the Packers have descended past them.
This Packers team, for me, is very reminiscent of the end of 2002. That team went 12-4 and had a playoff spot clinched and only a better seed to play for in week 17. Despite its record, that team was beat up on offense and getting worn out on defense. Over the final month of that season, the offense scored over 20 points only once. The defense held up until Week 17. That week, with the top overall seed in the playoffs for the taking, the Packers got crushed 42-17 by the New York Jets. That forced the Packers to play in the Wild Card round, where they were promptly dismissed by the Atlanta Falcons 27-7, the Packers’ first ever playoff loss at home. There have been several since.
That team was injured, tired, and trending downwards. This team is almost certainly the same.
The passing offense is what it is. It is among the worst in the league, and the cold and a fairly decent Vikings’ secondary is not going to help that. Despite what they might be saying to the public, I think Aaron Rodgers and Randall Cobb and the other key cogs of this unit might be completely ready to just shut this shit-show down and come back and start over next season. For this unit, it has certainly been a season to forget.
The Packers can run a little, and did so in their win against the Vikings in Minnesota. That remains their best chance to win this game, as we seem to say every week. Eddie Lacy loves playing against the Vikings. So there is that.
The Packers’ running backs, however, have shown a penchant for fumbling the football and the cold weather won’t help with that either. In a game like this, turnovers can make all the difference, and a team like the Vikings feeds off its defense. If the Packers fumble the ball, they are done.
As is often the case when you play Minnesota, the likely key to the game is can you stop Adrian Peterson. If the Packers do that, then they will turn this into a defensive battle that can go either way. The Packers’ pass defense is a solid unit, and the Viking pass offense ranks lower than the Packers.
However, the Packers have not been especially good at stopping the run lately. That makes stopping Adrian Peterson a tall task for this unit.
I have my doubts.
I don’t want to pick the Vikings because screw the Vikings. I don’t want to pick the Vikings because I picked them to beat the Packers in Minnesota and I was way off. I don’t want to pick the Vikings because a loss means the Packers got swept by their division in Lambeau.
Yeah, but none of that has any bearing on this game. Everything that does have a bearing suggests the Vikings should win.
I will let someone else sell the dream that the Packers are going to come roaring back to life and look like the Packers of last season. I will let someone else tell you that there is some switch the Packers can flip on and be good again when it matters.
I would like to do it. But that would be a lie. I would give the Packers a slightly better chance to beat the Redskins on the road. Slightly.
Vikings 23, Packers 10
Monty (9-6, 9-6 ATS) — I agree with all of the above. Two teams trending in opposite directions and the Green Bay Packers are going in the wrong one.
Per usual, they’re still favored to win though. This week, they get three over the Vikings.
Look, the Packers offense is what is. It isn’t going to change now. If Big Mike actually decides he might like to run the ball this week, then the Packers can win. If he decides he wants to confuse everyone including the guys on his own team, then they’ll get blown the hell out.
The defense has played valiantly for most of the season, but you can see they’re petering out. The best example of that is Clay Matthews and his zero tackles in the past two weeks.
To be frank, this team — its construction, its egos and its personnel — is subpar. These guys are not of Super Bowl caliber. Somehow, and it’s a mystery to us, they’re still of playoff caliber.
Perhaps that says more about the rest of the NFC than it does about the Packers.
But you know what?
Fuck the Minnesota Vikings. Fuck them and their fucking mothers, too.
I’m playing that card today.
We have zero evidence that any of these fuckups and shitbirds who play for the Packers have one ounce of it, but I’ve got pride.
I’m from Green Bay, Wisconsin and we don’t lose to the shitbag Minnesota Vikings with the division on the line.
Not this year and not on this fucking day!
Packers 20, Vikings 17
6-0 start, followed by 4-5 (4-7 if we lose the next 2). That easily leads to 6-10 next year. I hope I’m just a moron thinking this way. What I do know is that this team is no fun to watch. Minnesota 31, Green Bay 17.
Monty (9-6, 9-6 ATS) — I agree with all of the above.
Aren’t you then agreeing with Shawn that the Vikings will win?
But…I’ll go with Monty’s mindset of fuck the Vikings. I just will NOT predict a Vikings victory, under any circumstances. Not at Lambeau, not in week 17, not with the NFC North on the line. I call bs on that as a Packer fan.
I wish and hope for a Packer victory, no matter how shitty they’ve looked this season. But i will say this, if they lose and/or lose ugly, i think this place will be a complete shit storm tonight and this coming week, possibly worse than the Seattle meltdown. But for right now….
GO PACK GO!!
The team has no offensive identity. No go to reciever. Their running game rank is mostly buoyed by a couple of good games. I have tried to remain optimistic throughout the entire season. They can turn it around at any point. And I still think it is possible. But that has become a pipe dream. Hope in this team has all but evaporated. I will still be in front of my tv rooting for them tonight. But expectations for this team are nonexistent. I am more or less looking to the off-season to see what changes are going to be made
I believe these two teams are evenly matched. The Packers have declined and the Vikings have improved.
Rogers being the difference
Better get used to what Viking fans say…..”there’s always next year”.
Allen Robinson’s season stats – 75 catches, 1,292 yards, 17.2 avg 90 long 14 TD (pick #61 second round 2014 draft)
Davante Adams season stats – 46 catches, 429 yards, 9.3 avg 40 long 1 TD (pick #53 second round 2014 draft)
Man, I hate being right as an arm chair GM ;)
This team lacks the necessary talent to compete at the highest level and ‘ol Teddy refused to even try to this season = Lost season
You know, the funny thing is there is no such record of you saying such a thing anywhere vj. I doubt you ever said anything about Allen robinson. Hindsight is 20/20
PF4L- I went and looked through TP archives a bit and saw not even a single mention of Allen robinson lol
There is no way this team is going to cash it in for the season. There is to much pride. Win in all three phases. Finish Strong! GO PACK!!!
The Packers are still the Packers. We still have Rodgers. His stats are still great. He’s still great. Yah, we have problems but I’m not giving up yet. Hopefully, the Packers can get back on track tonight. We are playing with homefield advantage. Even as crappy as we played last week, it’s the Vikings. When we play this team, it’s a different ball game regardless of how well they have been playing. If they beat us tonight, we don’t deserve to go to the SB.
Musical chairs on the 0 line, not a good sign.
Primetime…Don’t embarrass your fans Packers!!!!!
Lets do this!!!
Sitton at left tackle, more offensive line shuffing. What is the worst that can happen
Sitton at left tackle, more offensive line shuffing. What is the worst that can happen?
WTF is with the 0 line?….J F C!!!…Linsley and Taylor, BOTH blocking Floyd, BOTH let him go at the same time, Rodgers sacked. That and Sitton getting burned by Griffen on the Rodgers fumble resulting in 7 points.
15 seconds left at the 39 yard line, a 1 yard pass to R. Rodgers…Really McCarthy? We should just give play calling duties to the towel boy.
I yelled the exact… same… fucking… thing. The first down doesn’t matter because you’re only getting two plays off regardless.
That one yard pass isn’t necessarily on McCarthy. Rodgers could have taken a shot down the field, instead he chose the safest throw on the field, the same thing he has done all year, and it has cost them
I know but it just shows how much we suck. Dammit.