I guess we know who’s being held responsible for the Green Bay Packers’ failures this season — running backs coach Sam Gash.
Gash was fired by the Packers on Tuesday.
“I respect the Green Bay organization a lot,” Gash told the Journal Sentinel. “I just apologize that I didn’t, I guess, get the job done. And that’s totally on me. You just live and learn from every situation that you’re in. I’m living and I’ve learned a lot. That’s all. I think the organization is great.”
We know coach Mike McCarthy was unhappy with Eddie Lacy all season, as Lacy turned in his worst season as a pro (758 yards and three touchdowns).
Despite that, the Packers were still 12th in the league in rushing and James Starks turned in a career high 601 yards.
Add all that up and we have a hard time seeing what Gash was fired for.
It seems he’s being held responsible for Lacy’s crappy season.
Gash joined the Packers in 2014.
This is just comical.
Typical Mike McCarthy “It’s not my fault it’s someone else’s”. You want to know why no one takes accountability on this team — why there’s ZERO leadership? Because McCarthy, the supposed leader of the team, can’t take accountability for himself and his own actions.
So last year it was Shawn Slocum’s fault for Brandon Bostick fucking up against Seattle in the NFC Championship Game. Now it’s Sam Gash’s fault Eddie Lacy turned into a complete fat ass and a worthless pile of shit. Yep — okay. That should solve all the issues. Let’s fire all the position coaches because it’s their fault.
It’s not Ted Thompson fault for building the roster. Not Mike McCarthy’s fault for managing every aspect of the team and the personnel — and apparently both of these two were blinded by the fact that Lacy showed up to training camp overweight, yet they did nothing. So instead of signing a cheap FA like I dunno like DeAngelo Williams for a paltry $1.3M guaranteed deal, Thompson insteads to stick with Lacy & Starks and back them up with a D1-AA RB from North Dakota State. But fuck it — let’s blame Sam Gash! He only got a career year out of James Starks and the rushing game was better than the passing game but FUCK IT, let’s blame him!
McCarthy just continues to prove what an absolute worthless pile of shit he is. He can’t take any accountability for anything he does and fails not to do. It’s Tom Clements fault the offense failed. It’s Jeff Janis fault because he didn’t do enough to standout in training camp to garner an opportunity once Davante Adams proved to be the most ineffective WR in NFL history. Fuck that Jeff Janis guy — he should have walked up to McCarthy and told him he ran a 4.4/40, how the hell else would McCarthy have know that!!! DAMNIT! It’s Richard Rodgers fault because he didn’t step up. FUCK THAT GUY! FIRE HIM TOO!
When someone hears McCarthy take accountability for anything — please let me know.
I can’t take anything you say seriously.
For being new here, you figured this out quickly.
where’s our game view man
Well he did come during hurricane season in Green Bay…
Gash should of been on Lacy weight problem all year. Come on guys. Not MM FAULT KEAVE HIM THE HELL ALONE
Tom Clements and Dom Capers should go too! Why? Are the Packers in the Super Bowl? That’s why!
Who gives a shit about football? Are the Packers still playing??
Its FUCKING SUPERCROSS SEASON!!!
Best athlete to come out of Minnesota
RYAN DUNGEY!!! MOFOS!!!
Hahaha wow. As for Janis, you guys do not know the whole story. You like you do, but you don’t. Yes, Janis’s workout numbers were crazy, between the speed, the vertical, ect. But let’s just stop, just for a second, and examine this. Janis was a 7th round pick, for a reason. Recievers that run 4.4 40s at his size, don’t fall to 7th round for no reason, especially given the emphasis on the passing game in the nfl nowadays. There must have been something, for all of the nfl teams to pass on him multiple times. My guess? No pro style offense in college, and nfl scouts were worried about how well he would pick up the nfl game. WRs, I may add, don’t just go out and run a route, which Janis is fairly limited on his route tree. They have to do a fair amount of reading coverages and adjusting their route accordingly, especially in the west coast offense. He probably doesn’t have much experience. You saw in the game, at least one instance of him running the wrong route, and it cost them a td in the red zone. So before you say “they don’t like him” or “they are playing favorites” think about how ridiculous that sounds. It is obvious they don’t trust him to run the right routes, and those kind of situations can turn into turnovers. But let’s go ahead and keep playing pretend that they play favorites.
Yeah. There’s been zero bias towards Davante Adams. None at all. Keep moving. Nothing to see here.
With skill comes bias, Adams sure as hell didn’t show it for most of this season but he showed glimpses of it last season and his entire collegiate and high school career. You don’t give up on someone after one shit season (unless he’s old as fuck) when he’s been performing his entire career.
They do play favorites. Why keep Kuhn on offense over Ripkowski? Or why didn’t Whitt play Gunter ahead of Goodson? I don’t recall anyone gushing about Goodson this year, but he played, and poorly for the most part, while Gunter was inactive most games. But I digress.
Janis sucks ass according to several people here. Fine. Runs shitty routes. Fine. He has speed. You couldn’t find 1 situation during the entire regular season to use him in a multiple receiver package as a straight line burner on a decoy mission to at least unbox the defense? Lets see if a defense wants to risk letting him go free. Again, he sucks according to some, but I’d be willing to bet given some go routes and maybe even catching a couple of those balls, there would be a new found respect for the potential he gave the team.
If they don’t consider potential, then what the hell were they forcing the ball to Adams all season for? He reminded me of Finley in some respects, where they were going to keep feeding him the ball in spite of his drops, because, you know, “potential” and they were going to live and die by all that untapped potential come hell or high water.
They did on occasion, Rodgers even threw his way a couple of times, they never connected.
You could convince me somewhat, but Adams dropped a ton of passes and had issues getting open. I remember another receiver that had the same issues as Janis (behind three supposedly better receivers, not enough body of work, etc….) his name was Jordy Nelson!!!! Gotta let them learn on the fly to see what you have at some point. Nelson was buried behind Jennings, Driver, and Jones. Who would you rather have on that list? Just saying…
Except Jordy Nelson left college as the all-time leading receiver at a Division ! school-Kansas State-whereas Jeff Janis left college as the all-time leading receiver at a Division III school (2nd all-time in the conference)-Saginaw Valley State-still very impressive, but not even close to the same level of experience. It took Jordy 3 years to become a consistent contributor to the team. It may take Janis just as long or even longer, maybe not.
Agreed, Janis may not be anything more than a 1 trick pony. He may never get it. I think he is deserving of a little more consideration this coming season, but I fear he will become an afterthought once Montgomery, Nelson, Adams return. Which is fine if they all perform as expected. Someone needs to be the odd man out. But they could do something creative and use an occasional 5 receiver set by mixing and matching the various strengths of their different receivers. Keep defenses guessing and off balance by utilizing a perceived strength of the offense. If McCarthy is going to keep 6 wide outs on the team then use them for more than only special teams.
Agreed, hopefully it clicks for him and he can really start to develop on his routes. Flies and skinny posts are nice, Hail Maries to extend playoff games are effin’ fantastic, but you just can’t run a go route every time you step on the field. Defenses will make adjustments and then there goes that.
Kinda strong Lacy got to guys fired this year.
Stay in school kids.
Classic
Just so everyone know Jeff Janis will be at 1265 Lombardi are at 6pm tomorrow for his weekly glory hole session
Jschizl= Jizz? Seems appropriate with this topic he puts forth. Anyway, most likely personal projection. Or he may be jealous of Janis’ play over Adams . . . Perhaps in search of “Oil Can Adams” glory hole?
(glerck-slish-glerck) That’s the sound of servicing the best seventh round pick in Packers history!
This guy Kato is an absolute moron. Knows nothing about football, has terrible reasoning, and comments way too much.
Mike McCarthy to Sam Gash: “Well Sam, i wasn’t a strong enough leader to get Eddie to eat right and lose weight and take his career seriously, or make him face the consequences if he didn’t, so…..You’re FIRED!!!!
You do realize the head coach has other duties outside of consulting with his RBs’ dietitians and fitness trainers, right? I mean what’s the point of having an underling with the title of “running backs coach” when he isn’t going to control his group. Ya think maybe Lacy didn’t respect Gash so that’s why he stayed out late and didn’t work his way back into elite condition?. I mean, shit, why doesn’t Brussels’ police commissioner just hire a bunch of officers to have an orgy instead of responding to a national crisis? Not like it’s THEIR JOB or anything. Nah, fuck it, let’s blame the Mayor, or better yet the King, hell! the Prime Minister while we’re at it. Because Fucking. Logic.
Once again, you enlighten and educate me.
I don’t want to put too much responsibility on the HEAD coach. Maybe he didn’t even know Lacy had a weight issue, because of all his other duties. The HEAD coach can’t really be bothered with the annual weight issues of one of his star players. And lets be honest, the Packers HEAD coach leads more by example, than he does wasting time being hands on. The HEAD coach can’t be expected to be responsible for everyone on his team. The HEAD coach has his own dieticians and fitness trainers to worry about. The HEAD coach knows the importance of good health and keeping his body in tip top condition. The term HEAD coach doesn’t mean he should have to answer to anyone, that’s why he has other coaches to blame. I suppose the next people to be fired will be the team’s caterer’s who supply the food. Ya know, because fucking….logic.
And how do you know that McCarthy DIDN’T talk to Gash and Lacy about Lacy’s weight? Do you have a record of EVERY conversation that occurred in the halls of 1265? Because if you do, I’d love to read them.
Seriously, PF, what the fuck is the point of having underlings if you can’t trust them to handle the work delegated to them. MM has to focus on the bigger picture. He has to focus on injuries, on film study (offense, defense, AND special teams his year). He has to create a game plan (and that’s not just a playbook, it’s plays working with each other to set up a flow to the game based on each team’s styles and players) based on the players available for both teams. He has o have meeting with his position coaches and coordinators every week. He works approximately 16 hours a day throughout the entire football season. But suuuuuure, ignore the issue. Let’s have the manager of the local Micky D’s be in charge of not only his employees, but also quality control, the drive up window, and custodial duties, shouldn’t be too fucking hard right?
I suppose the next people to be fired will be the team’s caterer’s who supply the food. Ya know, because fucking….logic.
THAT is fucking gold! Holy Shit, take an argument to its logical extreme in an attempt to ridicule my mocking your lack of logic. That’s fucking classic irony, PF, thank you for that. Holy shit!
You’re STILL fucking assuming that Fontenot wasn’t worthy of being fired when you admitted you know nothing about his coaching history and success or lack thereof. Doesn’t seem like perhaps you might just have a teensy, wee fucking bit of bias? No? OK. Well keep on tumbling, Alice.
Hey G, care to elaborate on why I am a moron? Rather than say I am a moron, why don’t you use critical thinking, and explain your statement using reasons? Hahaha I will just leave it at that.
The packers play favorites? Holy hell, I want to turn totalpackers into a drinking game. A shot for every stupid statement. Ripkowski in for John Kuhn. This is nothing against rip, I honestly think he will probably be the 1st string fullback next year. But nfl coaches don’t play favorites, this isnt junior f’ing high football you idiots. These coaches high paying jobs depend on them playing the players that give them the best chance at winning, because if they don’t, they are fired. The packers likely felt more comfortable with Kuhn because he is one of the top pass pro backs in the league and can catch the ball out of the backfield. They probably want to bring ripkowski along a little slower, because if he doesn’t read a blitz correctly, Aaron Rodgers could get his neck broken. Jesus.
Critical thinking is like a unicorn to most of these posters. Don’t use too much logic or they’ll get confused and then angry and start hurling insults like they’re the rocks and spears that they use to hunt mammoths.
Good God! literary gold from the mouth of fuck . . . Yeah! like your the standard bearer for cognitive ability Mr. Dunning Kruger Effect! I ‘ll give you one thing, you are sometimes entertaining with your allegory . . . when you are not being a pompous ass about it. Man, you must be insecure . . . does it make you feel better being such a putz with your schadenfreude?
Lol, okay Mr. Dunning-Kruger, please place me under a sequence of tests in order to confirm I am indeed unskilled in whatever field you’re implying I’m unskilled and then follow that up with rigorous scientific study and prove that I do indeed believe I am truly skilled at that craft. THEN and only then can you assert that I have D-KE, otherwise you’re just ignorantly spouting gibberish regarding matter in which you have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about, as per the usual. While we’re at it, by all means enlighten me as to how disabusing the incurably enraged and mentally incompetent of their unfounded whims in any manner makes me a schadenfreudist/ I know you won’t, because, as is always the case, you have no idea what you are talking about, and as always when you crash your clown car of insanity into a brick wall of logic you’ll just teeter off merrily to the next dive and pickle your brain cells in another tall cool glass of self delusion (Note: What I’m using is metaphor, NOT allegory, at least you’re trying though).
Fat Jesus pens “otherwise you’re just ignorantly spouting gibberish regarding matter in which you have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about, as per the usual.” EXACTLY! This is you! Can not handle the same shit you dish out eh? Sad sad and ANGRY man that you most likely are . . . I enjoy getting under mean spirited trolls like you. Personally, I find you just valuable enough to waste my time on . . . and repugnant enough to feel the need to jab an asshole like you occasionally! I smile at your retorts! Continue to look up references and feel butt hurt as you type your rhetoric Fat Jesus. Enjoy your “tall cool one” that sir, is most likely YOUR projection! not mine!
So you like it on the bottom, eh? Makes sense you’re as lazy physically as you are mentally. Trust me you’re not under me [skin], matey, I’m having a helluva time watching you drown in my sea of logic with nothing to clutch onto but your deflated life raft of ignorance and wrath. I’m not the troll-I actually post logical statements that I have put more than 3 seconds of thought into five years ago. But you keep on keepin’ on with that good fight against the Man in MM and TT, hell create a petition, you might get half as many as Wolfie did. Someday, when MM and TT retire (not get fired, cause it ain’t gonna fuckin’ happen, EVER, just chew on that for a bit) and you remove your head from your ass to get some much needed oxygen during one of your yearly surfacings you’ll actually have to come with a new issue to bitch about. My guess is that it’ll just be about the new regime, because God forbid you add a little spice to that diet of bitch and moan every once in a while.
And yet you chose to copy it….what does that say about you. Grasping at the rubble of that house of yours the Big Bad blew down are we, Little Piggy (*cough* Cartman).
More non-sequiturs from you Fat Jebus . . . Love the fact that you continue to reference logic while heavy handedly prancing through abstracts and non sequiturs. The bumbling troll that you are! Well, at least you are consistent.
Here’s an idea for ya big guy, how about you keep your criticisms relevant to this blog material, because even though you’ll still be an oblivious nematode, you’ll at least be an oblivious nematodes jabbering nonsensically about a relevant topic, and that’s a step in the right direction.
Yeah! like you do? Fuck you dude. lol HE he ha ha! Trolls can troll, but do it to them, and all of a sudden they can’t handle it. This is an OPINION BOARD genius! Just because you feel the need to be an intellectual bully to some people on here does not make you the emperor. What it says is that you have a hard time dealing with other mindsets and opinions that do not keep YOUR WORLD happy! Because Fat Jesus, you are most likely an unhappy man throwing out vitriol and becoming recalcitrant in your posts like some little (or big despot) would. Kim Jong-un comes to mind . . . Hell you most likely fit his dress size as well. Temper your intellectual dishonesty and the schadenfreude, if you want others to play well with you MR. Contemptible. For Christs sake grow up. Nematode! That was precious!
Yup, I’m the intellectual bully, this coming from someone who routinely refers to another who is much more successful than himself as “buffoon” and “McFatty”. Here’s another literary term for ya, MMKaaaay-irony, look it up, it’ll do ya a world of good. I have no issue with other people’s mindsets so long as they actually have a modicum of logic to back their shit up and don’t feel it’s necessary to immediately attack others with every ounce of vitriol they’ve acquired in the industrial waste accident that is their life when their rationale gets shut down quicker than a rave at Chuck E. Fuckin Cheese’s. I’m just volleying that shit-stained tennis ball back onto the server’s side of the court. Can’t take the smell of anal refuse? then stay the fuck out of the pen, Wilbur. And wipe that dirty Sanchez off your face while you’re at it.
Nice argumentum ad Jong their btw. If only someone could find a zookeeper to stick you and PF in a 30 X 30 terrarium, high schools could have field trips to the zoo to see how logical fallacies are formed in their natural environments.
None of your retorts surprised me. Logic coming from someone waxing poetic is the irony asswipe. I get excited just thinking what non-sequitur you will trail off into as you attempt to deride some poster on here with your trusty synonym book at your side. You are the epitome of what is wrong with blogs. Keep your shit stained mindset coming hedgehog. Enjoy driving your 18 wheeler in the snow and rain jackass. Get those old toothless whores to stick their finger in your ass at some piss smelling truckstop where they can refund part of your money for having a limp dick, whilst wiping that same finger back onto your tobacco stained lips . . . so that you can then have your dirty Sanchez too FAT JESUS. lol!
So no original retort of your own, yet again? Synonym book=Thesaurus, LMFAO, WOOOW. Looks like the sanity train has finally completely gone Casey Jones on ya. Keep profiling yours truly as a lowlife in order to make yourself feel better about your situation, whatever it takes, man, I’m here ta help.
Actually, it had not appeared to me that you had graduated from a synonym book to a thesaurus. You are most likely still referencing “the little brown book” . . . as far as profiling? You started that game long ago. Yesterday’s “Dirty Sanchez” from you just quantifies your mental and social standing genius. Keep smiling!
And yet you used it yourself-so you’re commandeering shit about shit from others? Good shit.
Don’t misunderstand, I don’t dislike John Kuhn. I saw Aaron Rodgers at risk of getting his neck broken many weeks this season even with Kuhn on the team. Kuhn isn’t anything special other than he has more experience. In my opinion Ripkowski could have done an adequate job, cheaper. Now, if Kuhn is such an asset, why isn’t he used more? Could it be because FB is a dying position in the NFL? And yet the Packers saw fit to keep not 1, but 2. Brilliant!
Everybody plays favorites in life, and football is no different. Whether conscientiously or not, there are favorites being played. I don’t know what criteria is being used because McCarthy speaks out of his ass, but they play favorites. Starks fumbling in 4 straight games? No need to send a message to him by playing more John Crockett. Crockett probably looked bad in practice! And calling out Lacy publicly after the season? I don’t know if it’s junior f’ing high school or not, but it sure as hell isn’t professional.
Kato bringing it hard in an attempt to be the most arrogant poster on this board…and that’s fucking arrogant.
Geez phatgzus, I guess so. I will stop using my experience playing and coaching football, not to mention talking a lot of football, with a lot of people including some dude that goes by the name of Don beebe, some of the guys here that aren’t new packers fans may know him. I guess I am just hurting people’s feelings because I don’t support their viewpoint MM is a bad coach, Janis is a HOF receiever wasting away on the bench ect.
In all honesty though, I do not understand playing Goodson, over gunter, just watching them Gunter looks like the better player. And I don’t understand the running play with 3 minutes left. There you go, I bashed MM, you happy?
Btw, I don’t think Janis is a bad player or anything, it’s just that I don’t think he is ready for a large nfl role yet. It takes those small college players a little while sometimes. The best comparison I can think of is miles Austin. Bigger guy with very similar athletic qualities, was an underrated guy, sat on the bench for the most part for three years before really getting it in year four after showing flashes in year 3
I don’t think Janis is the second coming of Jerry Rice. I get that he may never become even the next Bill Schroeder. I think he is better than they have given him credit for though.
An undrafted guy*
Wow, this is the first legible post you have managed on this topic so far. Although, it does continue to show how ignorant you are, like posted as a reply to another one of your posts above, please, stay in school buddy.
My last post was intended for one of “jschizl” posts
Mike McCarthy has always liked fullbacks, I remember back in they day they would carry three. I really doubt they bring Kuhn back, and bet they roll with ripkowski, they probably wanted to bring him along slowly, get used to blocking schemes in the nfl and pass protection calls, because he will likely be called upon to do a lot of that much like Kuhn has the past 6 years
McCarthy and Thompson are egotistical scum. They need scapegoats for their failures instead of manning up.
Last year it was Brandon Bostick. Yep, a small school athletic back up tight end. Who happened to be 4th in Special Teams tackles, quite a feat for a TE. Who’s gaff was trying to help the team. Yep. All his fault. Cut him. Yep. All fixed.
Oh crap! Another bad year. A worse year! Now what? Uhhh, well, cutting another back up TE would be a little obvious…. I know! Let’s cut an Assistant Coach!
OK, that is settled but… which one? Hmm, Sam Gash had the #12 running game behind a wounded offensive line and an under-performing QB. He did it with a journeyman fumbler and a slow fat-ass. Yeah, let’s fire Gash. We can pretend another coach could have maybe pulled out a #11 ranking in the run game… even though we know most other RB coaches would have led to a #27 ranking….
Even against the easiest schedule next year I bet the run game ranks lower.
The Packers are General Managed and Coached by cowardly scum… and many of their players are stupid, selfish criminals (Quarless, Guion) or stupid, selfish, lying, drug abusers (Peppers, Neal, Matthews). And the QB is the biggest whiner in the League and yet, incredibly, also the creepiest QB. Such a weird combination.
His gaff was NOT DOING HIS FUCKING JOB, immediately after Slocum told he and the rest of the ST crew (and I paraphrase hear): “If your name isn’t Jordy Nelson or Micah Hyde, then stay the fuck away from the football.” He had also had issues all season with his practice habits and the coaches didn’t like where his head was at, that’s why he got almost know playing time even with his receiving potential; and when he finally did see some action he dropped an easy 2 yard catch when we were backed up on our own goal line because he wasn’t focused.
LOL, many? and then you name 2 and 3 respectively (fyi, those claims are unfounded, like that fucking matters to you, eh, Miniczar?)?
Phatgzus,
As per Bostick, he was literally told when cut (over the phone and by proxy ) that the ST gaffe was partly the reason for the cut. It was done at an odd time of year, soon after the loss, without giving him a chance to compete in training camp.
Now, he was no pro bowler. But, don’t you see? That is why he was the perfect scapegoat! If a starter had done the exact same thing then they would have found a different scapegoat.
You could go back to a dozen different plays by a dozen different players and change their actions/results and the game would not have been lost. You could blame a quarter of the players on the team. Heck, you could blame the coaches for keeping Bostick on the roster if he was really so “bad”. But the GM and HC are not going to scapegoat themselves now are they?
I understand your confusion as to the use of the word “many”. First, I left out a few = Datone Jones was also convicted in 2015 and Jarrett Bush had charges dropped (but usually this is not due to any lack of guilt). Charlie Sly said he knew half the Packers. So, he named three (by the way, Mike Neal is his buddy and there are pictures of them posing together so the idea he would falsely name his buddy is silly) off the top of his head and in casual conversation but indicators are there may be “many” more.
There are 53 players on the roster and a few on IR and practice squad. So, picture your neighborhood. Let’s just say it has 8 houses on each side of your residential block. On average, maybe 4 people per house (yeah, old widow Watkins lives alone but the Andersons have 9 children….). That is about 64 people almost on top of you and your family. Now, if 4 of them were convicted of crimes, 1 accused of a crime, 3 credibly alleged to be active drug abusers, and maybe a dozen more strongly suspected of drug abuse (I never trusted those Andersons!) would you be telling everyone you lived in a good neighborhood? Heck, your wife would give you an ultimatum to move or she would get a divorce!
Point is, “many” is relative. The word is applicable in this case.
What is most interesting about your response is what you did not disagree with. I’m glad you have the sense to agree the Packers run game will now likely do worse next year after this RB coach scapegoating and that Rodgers is both incredibly whiny and amazingly creepy — a combination I once thought impossible until proven otherwise by Rodgers. I’m glad we have found that common ground.
Packers running game was actually more prolific in the two PREVIOUS years, PRIOR to Gash’s hiring. Eddie Lacy in particular was much more productive WITHOUT him, he was also more productive in the passing game last year although Starks did take a lot of those plays away from him this year, and rightfully so. You have to imagine that Lacy’s issues are a big reason for this. Furthermore, Rodgers contributed 100 more yards to the run game this year than last and 200 more than in Lacy’s first season. The running game was also less consistent this year than last, and that’s not just because of stacked boxed, though admittedly those hurt production (Lacy was able to dominate at the end of his rookie season against 8 and 9-man boxes with Flynn under center)> So, in short, you’re actually incorrect.
As for the arrests, Datone Jones was caught smoking weed in a car, BFD-stupid but not like he beat his woman. And, as you said, it’s all relative. With a particularly bad offseason year, the Packers are still middle of the road in terms of player arrests per team in the league, so there’s that settled.