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Five More Thoughts on Packers’ 26-20 Loss to Cardinals

Larry Fitzgerald

Well, it’s all over and it pretty much ended like it should have.

The Green Bay Packers were not good enough. They weren’t good enough all season and they weren’t good enough when it counted.

The result wasn’t surprising. Only the way it went down.

It’s the end and here we go.

More of the same
We really can’t wait to hear how making the playoffs equals success. That will surely be the narrative around Green Bay this offseason. It will be the narrative because no one will be held accountable for what actually is another failure of a season. That ginger gap-toothed fuck will give us a real big gap-toothed smile and tell us what a great season we had because he was able to take all kinds of money from us. Because championships don’t matter anymore. Only the bottom line.

But listen guys, the Packers are successful! So long as you define success in a way that isn’t relative to what the Green Bay Packers are about.

That guy can’t play
Seven catches, 145 yards, two touchdowns. That was Jeff Janis’ line. We saw Janis run a crappy route in the end zone early in the game and then we saw him make all kinds of plays after that. We understand that maybe the guy isn’t the most astute player. Probably not the best route runner. Despite that, his going off just demonstrates the stupidity of the coaching staff.

You find ways to put guys in a position to succeed, especially when those guys are dynamic playmakers. The fact that the Packers simply refused to do that with Janis all season is a blatant failure.

Entirely predictable
It could have gone differently, but it didn’t. Before the game, I drew a comparison to the 2013 playoffs, when the Packers were a game opponent against a better 49ers team. This game felt a lot like that, except the Packers actually looked like the better team for most of the day, this time.

Still, the result was exactly the same. Like it was predestined — complete with a defensive breakdown at the exact time when the Packers couldn’t afford one.

But up until then…
The Packers defense did exactly what they needed to do. They stopped the run, they pressured Carson Palmer and they created turnovers. The Packers had three sacks and two picks on the day. They held Arizona to 40 yards rushing. The defense did what they needed to do to win the game.

Hell, so did the offense. They only allowed one sack. They outgained the Cardinals 386 yards to 368 and the time of possession was nearly equal. So what happened? You know what happened.

One guy
If the Cardinals had an advantage, other than the officials being on their side, it was Larry Fitzgerald. Eight for 176 and the game winner.

The old man’s still got it.

Monty McMahon

Monty McMahon is one of the founders of Total Packers. He is probably the most famous graduate of UW-Oshkosh next to Jim Gantner.



  1. SApackerfan January 17, 2016

    Seeing Fitz catch that ball in overtime with no packers within 15yards is representative of the season. Generally good on O and D and then a huge mistake derails it all. Huge mistakes are a coaching problem. They happened all year on both sides of the ball and we rarely had the winning margin to deal with it. Depressing, and I agree, they will make no changes just like the last 4 years.

    1. icebowl January 17, 2016

      Does the “Chain Crew” travel with the refs or are they local “talent” ….
      Those measured first down calls were too damn close … just saying

      1. Fritz fm WI January 17, 2016

        that ref, clete blakeman is a crony lawyer of that dirtbag lawyer goodell, who “runs” er, “cums” all over the nfl, LOL!

        he was “hired” about six years ago, when the older veteran refs were starting to retire, and goodell wanted more lawyer cronies like himself on the field.

        my guess he passed the written test which certified he knows the nfl rules. but had he ever actually refereed a football game at the pro level??

        probably got the answers to the written test passed under the table as well. i doubt he got any money passed under the table, though. looked like typical blakeman ref roulette with his incompetent team of blind bats that came from a different sport to officiate for the nfl [part time hires then, six years ago, no?].

        just one more west coast curse that Mike choker #2 brought on himself, and us, after he first outchoked mike choker #1 [sherman]. MM and co. [assistants] is now the champ coaching chokers of all time, at least in titletown…? anybody know a better candidate from the last 100 years of packer history?

  2. Kato January 17, 2016

    That was a down season, and they still were in the final four of the nfc. The patriots are about the only team that have matched that level of success in the past five years. I am hurting from that loss, but still thankful for what they have achieved

    1. PF4L January 17, 2016

      Yea, maybe we can get a participation ribbon. That would be awesome wouldn’t it? Then we can all go out for ice cream after.

      1. Shaun January 17, 2016

        LOL YES!!!!!

    2. icebowl January 17, 2016

      “If you ain’t first, you’re last” – Ricky Bobby

      1. PF4L January 17, 2016

        “That just happened!!” – Ricky Bobby

        1. icebowl January 17, 2016

          “…. losing’s never fun, but here’s a little something to keep your spirits up! ” [Gives him the finger] – Ricky Bobby

    3. Shaun January 17, 2016

      You’re entitled to your opinion. As a fan, your’s a healthy, and probably proper way of looking at it. Unfortunately, however, McCarthy, TT, and Murphy all look at it the same way. You think Belichick or Arians would analyze it that way? Doubtful. To lead an NFL team, to be ELITE year in, year out takes a special approach, a special attitude. We failed on offense early, and we failed on defense late. That is pure coaching, pure regime, pure philosophy. This is unacceptable, but it won’t change…The Green Bay Packers bring a perennial contender, but we are only good, never ELITE, never GREAT. We are in the top 5 teams every year, last year, we were probably the best, but we were still losers. McCarthy’s approach is the problem

      1. Shaun January 17, 2016

        Bruce Arians, on the first drive of the game, 4th and 1 from the 10 decides to go for it. That situation, McCarthy kicks the FG EVERY FUCKING TIME. Go back to the NFCCG last year, he kicked twice. This guy is a loser, masquerading as a winner. Bruce Arians has the go-for-the-juggular approach of Bill Belichick. Mike McCarthy is a pussy. Mike McCarthy should go choke on a bag of dicks

        1. billabong January 17, 2016

          your hero, big bruce…send me his resume please with all the rings on it….fuck him…his old man QB is done after this year mark my words…

          1. Shaun January 17, 2016

            He’s not my hero. I was merely illustrating a point that he is coaching to win. He’s got swag. He doesn’t west a stupid metallic logo on his hat like our monkey coach. Bruce Arians is a much more aggressive coach than MM. That is what this team needs. I am pretty sure this is Arians’ first gig as an HC. I am pretty sure he won rings as OC in Pittsburgh AND Indianapolis. Wake up and smell the roses, clown. MMs approach has gotten lazy and stale. His message is old and tired, and he has possibly lost his players. I think it’s clear he lost his QB

      2. icebowl January 17, 2016

        Well put !

        … it will continue for perhaps a few more years ’til #12 is frustrated enough to hang his cleats… Other teams in NFC North are starting to “gel” – new coaches, good draft positions (except for ‘queens)…. Only a matter of time – losing all home games to them was a sign of things to come …

        Watching ‘Cheathawks getting their asses handed to them by Cammie taking some of the sting outta that finish last night ….

        1. Shaun January 17, 2016

          Interesting point about rest of NFC North. You could be correct. I hope you’re wrong. We DID go 0-3 against them at home, but 3-0 on road. Weird season. I think we are still the kings of the North. Still have a bright future as long as 12 is around. It is hard to win SBs in spite of a retard coach tho. Jordy back will help. Our roster is LOADED as WR btw.

          I am not watching football today. Can’t do it. I actually disagree with your sentiment on the Seahawks though. I was thinking to myself while trying to sleep last night that no result of the SEA-CAR game would make me feel any better about what happened to our beloved Packers last night, but something that would maybe exacerbate the pain would be if seattle wins. I so badly wanted a rematch NFC Championship at Lambeau against that nefarious band of Seattle thugs. If Seattle wins, I will be slightly more disturbed

          1. icebowl January 17, 2016

            S. I believe we were sharing feelings about Seattle – only thing I would’ve liked better than their losing is if they’d been shut out….

            I’ve been kinda catching glimpses of the games today – no real desire to watch – I am able to concentrate on honey-do list items for first time on a Sunday in 19 weeks….

            Hoping Arizona will be able to stop Cam – if Fitz comes through again it could happen. If I end up watching I’ll be cheering for your man Arians …

      3. MMTTDCSUCK January 18, 2016


  3. cd4packers January 17, 2016

    We have Aaron Rodgers. I still think we’re wasting his talents. If we had a QB like Teddy Bridgewater, then I’d feel differently, but we don’t. We HAVE, IMO, the best QB in the league. I remember feeling this same way with Favre. Like we were constantly chasing that last high called the SB. But we never quite made it there. It was still a thrilling ride, but Favre never accomplished all he could have or should have with this team. I don’t want to see that happen again with Rodgers. He can bring this team all the way back to the SB. We need a coaching staff who knows how to do that. That’s their job. Let’s get it done while we still have a great QB.

    1. Shaun January 17, 2016

      Preach, sister, preach. Too bad Packers brass will never change. McCarthy will never go anywhere, even though he should. You can tell when coaches become comfortable in the position, and become complacent. They turn into FAT FUCKS. Case in point, Mike McCarthy. That fat fuck needs to take his conservative, loser approach out of Green Bay

    2. Shawn January 17, 2016

      Great QBs miss the playoffs all the time. Just ask Drew Brees and Phillip Rivers this year. Having a great QB doesn’t guarantee you anything.

      Brett and Aaron have as much to do with anyone as to why they only have 1 ring. Playing better in the playoffs would help.

      And Kirk Cousins had a better year than Aaron this year.

      1. Shaun January 17, 2016

        Interesting. I don’t think I would put either of those 2 in the same tier as Aaron Rodgers. He is really by himself. Maybe Brady and Roethlisberger are up there. Brees and Rivers certainly don’t have the continuity and talent around them that Aaron Rodgers has. And Kirk Cousin has Reed. He is a baaaaad man. Desean Jackson helps spread the field. They have a good RB. Yeah, Cousins was hot, but come on man, Rodgers deserves a Brady type career. He’s that good…

      2. Deepsky January 17, 2016

        I think the best QB of all time was Marino. Best release, best accuracy, got rid of the ball fast. Shredded Packers every time he played us. No Super Bowl wins because all but a couple years he had horrible defenses.

  4. knucklehead January 17, 2016

    Monty has a 33.5/40 body and brain that only can conjure hatred and envy for great men.

    If I was a Vikings fan, this would be my favorite site.

    Fuck you Monty.

    You will write anything while believing in nothing.

  5. Stan Gable January 17, 2016

    Take out 2010 and the karma is not on our side in the playoffs for some reason. Its just so fucking frustrating and depressing. And I’m tired of hearing next year, next year, from Packer writers and bloggers, fuck next year, the time for everything is now, that’s how we did it at Adams. Now we have to wait a year with changes to maybe get a chance to get to this point again. So fucking frustrating, and I’m not going home to millions of dollars and Olivia Munn type pussy anymore either, so I cant just say oh well we’ll get em next year and move on.

  6. Skinny January 17, 2016

    I just hate that we lost another opportunity. It takes so much to get back to the playoffs, its such a long process. Its just not our time for some reason, a hail mary should carry a team to a title, two hail marys should fuckin qualify your team for sainthood but the football gods are just playing games with us right now for some reason. So fucking frustrating and depressing.

  7. hubie January 17, 2016

    Its a sad fucking day when an nfl ref cant flip a coin

    1. PF4L January 17, 2016

      It’s a sad fucking day when fitz isn’t just left open, if he had a phone, he could have googled..how to get open against the Packers….and still had time left to catch that ball.

      It’ll be interesting to hear what Capers said about that play, in his post game interview…Wait, what?

    2. icebowl January 17, 2016

      …. or make calls on blatant holding

  8. anthony January 17, 2016

    i dont understand how the defense blew that coverage on that catch by fitzgerald to set up the final play. its simple football. playing zone is easier than playing man coverage. i wonder if capers has to go to each player individually and tell them, “okay, if anybody comes into this 10 yard area, you cover them!” i swear its so simple. these players get paid millions, but dont seem to understand simple assignments. hell even kids playing pop warner understand basic zone schemes.

  9. Dave The Lions Fan January 17, 2016

    CHOKE PACK CHOKE! CHOKE PACK CHOKE!CHOKE PACK CHOKE! Karma baby Karma. All these excuses like the coin toss and the overtime rules are bogus. The coin toss was done again and the Cardinals won. Get over it. The league won’t change its OT rules just because the Slackers defense doesn’t show up in OT playoff games.

    Better luck next year cheesheads.
    One more time, CHOKE PACK CHOKE!

    1. SApackerfan January 17, 2016

      Ha! so funny coming from a Lions Fan, busting on other teams when you own sucks is so silly it is awesome. Lions…ha ha ha

    2. PF4L January 17, 2016

      Dave is a dick…but he’s right.

      Fuck blaming the coin toss, fuck blaming OT rules, fuck blaming the refs. Blaming others for failure is for children and losers.

      Did the refs tell the Packer defense to leave Fitz wide open? Did the refs tell Shields to drop his 2nd potential pick with 4:41 to play and the Packers up 13-10? Did the refs tell Burnett to try and tackle Fitz high, instead of going for a simple leg tackle at the 33 yard line?

      1. Fritz fm WI January 17, 2016

        puhleeze, DON’T FEED THE TROLL [if he thinks anybody reads his shit, he’ll cut and paste duplicates of his dogshit post he copied above from a previous article’s comment. do u want to see hundreds of copies of the same crap-post in our comment sections for the rest of this calendar year???

    3. Shaun January 17, 2016

      Dude, go shit in your hand. I understand, as a Lions fan, you have nothing meaningful to discuss that’s lions related in January, but get the fuck off our blogs you worthless sack of shit.

      1. PF4L January 17, 2016

        Don’t jump off the ledge Shaun. Dave’s a troll whose only goal is to piss you off. He won.

        1. Shaun January 17, 2016

          You’re right. Sorry. Thanks.

          “Fuck blaming the coin toss, fuck blaming OT rules, fuck blaming the refs. Blaming others for failure is for children and losers.”

          You are very correct here. Love what you said…And actually, shields dropped 3 that hit him right in BOTH hands. He was concussed though, which makes me want to give him some benefit of doubt. He was thrown on 10 times, allowed 3 catches for 27 yards. That’s pretty damn good

          1. PF4L January 17, 2016

            That is great, BUT…..when you are payed like a shutdown corner and playmaker, when you have opportunities, you need to come up with a play, because that’s what they pay you for.

          2. Shaun January 17, 2016

            I agree PF4L, but he was concussed! He missed 4 games from it! Maybe he wasn’t seeing the ball well…Hard to knock him for his performance. He did over pursue on Fitz 70 yards scamper. He and Clay were in position to stop him at mid field. Clay pursuing from behind, and gaining, Sam coming from head on. Sam went too far toward the sideline and allowed Fitz to cut back. Outran Clay from there. If Sam Stayed outside, Fitz likely gets forced out, but certainly gets caught by Clay

        2. PF4L January 17, 2016

          He was concussed, he passed Con. protocol, meaning he’s good to go.

          The other guy who over pursued on that play was Dix, watch it again, it was awful. I’m thinking that was Dix’s zone where he caught that ball, but i’ll refer to Shawn on that.

  10. Bob E. January 17, 2016

    Defense sucked. Clay where’s your epic sacks boy?

  11. Zwoeger January 17, 2016

    Did you saw that look on MM’s face that showed after a good play again from Janis ?
    The one that showed Fuck I had to play him this time and know he reveiled how a stupid fuck I am not playing him earlier in the season.
    Man do I hate to see his face for seasons now.

    1. MMTTDCSUCK January 18, 2016


  12. hubie January 17, 2016

    Dave the Lions fan, your team has been golfing for weeks now, (as most years when playoffs start) you may need a hobby as well…

  13. Kato January 17, 2016

    God, if only we were being blown out by Carolina right now! I want the packers to win the super bowl every year, but christ, that simply isn’t what the nfl is

    1. PF4L January 17, 2016

      That 1st sentence makes no sense. the 2nd sentence is just moronic. No one expects the Packers to win it every year. If you need further explanation on that, have someone else explain it to you.

  14. Kato January 17, 2016

    Some packers fans don’t realize how good they have it. They wanted to be like the 49ers a few years ago, now look at them. Now the “next dynasty” the Seahawks are getting blown the fuck out. And changes are coming now that they have to pay their qb 20 million

    1. Shaun January 17, 2016

      I’ve been saying that for a while now about SEA. Same shit that happened to SF once they paid their OVER RATED QB will also happen to SEA once they pay theirs. The success of those two teams came from all-time-great defenses and great running games. Their over rated qbs did not win them anything….

      But to your initial point about comparing the Packers to those teams and realizing how good we have it….Not gonna let you sell me that one. How about we compare ourselves to the 60’s Packers, the 70’s Steelers, the 80’s niners and the 90’s Cowpies. Or would you rather compare ourselves to a current team. THE FUCKING PATRIOTS. Their QB, who is not any better than ours, has 4 rings. Aaron Rodgers, especially with the talent around him, needs a dynasty as well. These last few years have been complete failures, and it starts with the coach

      1. MMTTDCSUCK January 18, 2016


  15. Packers fan January 17, 2016

    peppers and Mathews was held on basically every play at the end and Palmer had wall day to find his only receiver, Fitzgerald, he would just lob it up and he would catch it, the cards had a lot of luck with no calls, coin tosses, and deflected balls in the end zone for TDs, all in all the packers did everything right and turned nothing into something, but their receiving core dropped like flys this season

  16. Ivomitonvikingfans January 17, 2016

    That was a gut stomp ending but overall a better showing than I would have thought. Look how the Seachickens are getting rolled. I just hope the brain trust starts feeling a little urgency about their window of opportunity.

  17. Bobby d January 17, 2016

    If Mark Murphy wasn’t such a dickless baby kissing political douchebag, he’d get rid of the main problem with this team….that being the dick licking socially awkward fruitcake with the blank expression on his face. The one that prevented Favre from winning more rings (Moss for example) and is now doing the same with Rodgers. As long as that shit head is handling personnel and he’s “loving his guys” the talent level after the qb will not be enough to close it out. Should just stay in his Mom’s guest bedroom and hang with the AJ blowup doll he got for Festivus.

  18. ay hombre January 17, 2016

    And is it me or did McCarthy yank Janis out of the game once we got the lead? We shifted into park like we always do with the lead.

    What pisses me off is the Washington win almost certainly took any heat off McCarthy and Thompson when in actuality it should be on even more. Even while Janis was having tremendous success in helping the Packers get the lead, fathead went conservative and took him out of the game the moment we had, in his estimation, an insurmountable fucking lead.

    I am fucking sick of this culture of don’t lose rather than win.

    1. Shaun January 17, 2016

      Beautifully said…Although, let’s keep the hate to MM. TT has done a great job building a young, talented and deep roster. Maybe he should be less rigid in some aspects, but we’ve got the players here to get it done. It’s MM philosophy that needs to change. Arians went on 4th from the 10 and scored because of it. We fold like bitches and, as you put it, “put it in park” and pray not to lose

      1. Big Gay Clay January 17, 2016

        TT drafts no diversity when it come to Wr and CB. All are clones of each other. Let’s not even mention the TE

        1. Shaun January 17, 2016

          Ty Montgomery and Randall Cobb are far from run-of-the-mill talents. They are extremely unique. Jeff Janis is similar to Jordy Nelson, but are you telling me you don’t want any 6’3″ 220 WRs that have blazing jets? You’re mistaken here, sir. WR is LOADED with talent

          As for CB, Sam Shields is small, but has 4.2 40 speed and is STICKY in coverage with great ball skills. You don’t want more of that? Randall and Rollins may be clones of each other like you say, but they have EXCELLENT ball skills and have been pretty damn good man-to-man in coverage. The only similarity with most of our CBs is that they are undersized, but Ladarius Gunter is not undersized. Underutilized, most definitely, but his 6’2″ frame is far from undersized….Get your facts straight

        2. Shaun January 17, 2016

          And I know you don’t want to mention TE, but since you DID, let’s talk about it. Jermichael Finley. How’s that for a nice 3rd rounds pick? It’s not Ted Thompson’s fault the guy suffered a career ending neck injury. What’s wrong with Dick Rodge? Yeah, the guy is slower than molasses, but he has fantastic hands – 2 drops all year. The guy, if used properly down the seam instead of in the flat, can be a dangerous weapon. His massive size also provides a lethal red zone target…This offseason, he should maybe work on dropping a little bit of weight, and getting a lot faster. Lacy has a similar problem, but he needs to drop A LOT of weight, and get only a little faster

          1. Big Gay Clay January 17, 2016

            Shaun… My facts are straight. I’m not going to argue with you though because you obviously are a TT’s shower buddy. Maybe you will realize what’s going on once ARod retires with one SB ring. Yes one SB is good, if you are not ARod

    2. Howard January 17, 2016

      McCarthy learned under Marty Schottenheimer and readily admits he owes a lot of were he is to Marty. Well Marty coached several good teams into the playoffs. Marty’s playoff record was 5 wins 13 losses. Marty always became to conversation and predictable in the playoffs. MM needs to quit being Marty.

      The bottom line though is there will be no changes at the GM or head coaching positions unless one or the other retire. They both just received contract extensions last year. The only thing we can hope for is they adjust or someone forces them to adjust. The later seams unlikely, hopefully in their self evaluations they can be honest and make some adjustments. MM has shown some ability to make some slowwwww changes. TT has not shown that same ability.

      1. PF4L January 17, 2016

        Excellent insight Howard, as usual.

      2. Skinny January 17, 2016

        I don’t ever want you to mention the name Shottenheimer in here ever again.

    3. Skinny January 17, 2016

      Hombre exactly, that’s the shits about this whole deal. Yea FA will be ignored again now. It will be a lets stock pile draft picks mentality come draft day again instead of picking player A who falls to us and is a stud at his position but Ted thinks he can get a similar player later so he passes. Then in May and June McCarthy will again say this is the best team hes ever had and this is the best OL hes ever had and its Super Bowl or bust. Then next January we will be sitting here again wondering what the fuck just happened. Cycle repeats and repeats.

    4. MMTTDCSUCK January 18, 2016

      Amen! MM is a buffoon! why the homers do not see his MO is beyond me. I kept saying to my wife in the 4th quarter, “look buffoon took Janis out! He is going conservative again!” sure enough, the repeat of last year! as well with the D! instead of staying aggressive with coverage, they went to zone. Shameful! did not learn from their Seattle loss last year. I firmly believe that motherfucking Buffoon is delusional. Hey! let’s run a whole lot of Lacy left for one yard or less on NEARLY EVERY FIRST DOWN! NO ONE WILL KNOW! It became so apparent that I would ask my wife what they were going to run after they got a first down, and her answer was “Lacy will run left . . . geesh! BTW my wife is not a scholar in football. The opposing DC must be salivating when they play buffoon and his “genius play calling” . . . fuck.

  19. Big Gay Clay January 17, 2016

    The Seahawks have been overrated all season long. Do you really think we’d be getting blown out by the Panthers? The answer is “no”. We may have it good (if you like making it to the playoffs every season to only lose)compared to teams like Houston, Jacksonville, 49ers, Rams but we are the Green Bay Fucking Packers. The Trophy is named after which famous coach for the Pack? We have possibly the greatest QB of all time and we can’t win more than one trophy? If we didn’t have a QB that great then I wouldn’t mind losing in the playoffs because that would be a “good” season. Time for some changes this offseason starting out with GM.

    1. icebowl January 17, 2016

      Totally agree BGC ….

      1. dennis January 17, 2016

        3rd that

    2. PF4L January 17, 2016

      Agree also……

      #13 written by PF4L
      01/15/2016 – 1:07 am

      “Real” Packer fans, expect better sometimes, as do Packer players and coaches when you have a rare talent on the team.
      Ron Wolf didn’t resurrect the Packers franchise, by instilling into everyone that…..As long as we have a winning season, everything’s cool. No, it was about winning fucking Championships. Not being 10-6.

      1. Big Gay Clay January 17, 2016

        Yes sir! Look at Brady, couldn’t even sniff Arods jock when comparing athleticism and pure arm talent but yet he has 4 rings. That’s because the talent they put around him but more so the talent his defense possesses. Not to mention he has a competent coach. We were one play away from the Super Bowl last year and TT did nothing in the offseason to put us over the edge. Maybe one star FA would have helped? We’ll never know but what we do know is that we’ll be sitting at a comfortable 10 mil under the salary cap every year…

        1. MMTTDCSUCK January 18, 2016


    3. Skinny January 17, 2016

      I know, two fuckin hail Mary’s converted, that’s fuckin godly and we don’t end up anywhere because of it ha. I mean how the fuck does that happen? Any other team that converts one hail mary they ride that shit all the way to the title.

  20. Shaun January 17, 2016

    Man. There’s a lot of good talk that goes on in this blog. I love coming here, and it was a fun season of interaction. I can’t believe it’s over. I really can’t.

    This is a game we should have won. I have always half-heartedly blamed McCarthy for some of our recent failures, and then back tracked because blaming the coach, someone who doesn’t even step inside the sidelines to make any plays, seemed kind of petty. However, after watching that game, I have never felt more comfortable about whole-heartedly blaming MM with 100% conviction.

    Now that doesn’t make me correct, but I feel so strongly that this team needs a new coach, and a new philosophy in order to bring SEVERAL SB titles under Rodgers.

    Watching Bruce Arians go for it on 4th down from the 10 on the first series of the game was all the evidence I needed to decide that our coach is mentally retarded. Somebody in the comments above said that McCarthy “puts it in park” with a small lead and hopes we don’t lose instead of just going for the jugular and winning it. He plays not to lose, rather than playing for the win.

    McCarthy seems like a great man, a wholesome man. He seems to present humility, and I respect that. He seems like a genuinely nice and respectable human. I go back to a PC he had during this season where he was asked a question about not practicing on xmas. In his answer, he stressed the importance of family, he reflected back to his brother, and how he missed his brother’s wedding once because he had to work. He began to tear up a bit, and clearly was very emotional. He then finished his sentence and walked off the podium. That made me feel for the MAN, not the COACH. At times, we as sports fans are far too harsh on people we don’t even know. And that really comes with the job. That is something these players and coaches deal with every day.

    I am glad to have that MAN as our coach, but with that said, this COACH really is not a winner. His formula, his philosophy does not mesh with the talent of this team. I am really surprised he is an offensive minded coach, because his philosophy seems to be more defensively biased. An offensive minded coach, with arguable the best QB of all time at his disposal would be more aggressive with his game plan and play calling.

    I am getting sidetracked, and my post is getting convoluted, so I will end it. But coaching is a real problem right now in Green Bay. Change needs to happen for SBs to come

    I look forward to actively engaging with everyone in this blog during this long, painful and slow offseason

    1. Howard January 17, 2016

      There was one move that McCarthy made that shows he is always not conservative and that was going for it on 4th at the approximate 3 minute mark. With not making that first down MM knew that he would immediately put Arizona in scoring position. You could make the case the right thing to do was punt, use your time out and 2 minute warning, and make a stop only down by 4 points. MM is probably going to catch hell by many, and they would probably have valid points. However, if you want a coach to be aggresive it is hard to protest to loud.

      1. Shaun January 17, 2016

        I thought that move was pretty stupid, actually. The move made losing a very real possibility. MM gave them a FG there, TD would have ended it. The strategy DEPENDED on a stop to hold to FG. If we kick it away and get the same stop, we get the ball back only down four, with a chance to win it instead of tie it.

        Also, McRetard should have gone for 2 after the hail mary. You stole an opportunity on a fluke play, so why not end the game with Aaron Rodgers? One play from the 2 for the win

    2. Skinny January 17, 2016

      Shaun, I just McCarthy’s run has passed, I think hes been here to long. Take out 2010, and its tough to just sit back and pretend its all good and that nothing needs to be corrected.

  21. Salazar January 17, 2016

    That Hail Mary doesn’t change the fact that when it comes to the deep ball, Rodgers just doesn’t have it anymore. It’s rare to see a 15+ yard pass not get lobbed way past the receiver. No chemistry with any of the receivers, and that’s on the guy making superstar money.

    1. PF4L January 17, 2016

      Did he not have it on the 1st hail mary pass? Ya know, the pass that went 64 yards?

      Sometimes when the ball is thrown high to a receiver, he’s simply throwing it away. Sometimes it’s just a off throw. But then again, Rodgers has to be God like right? Perfect in every aspect for your satisfaction?

      Rodgers went from MVP in 2014. To around top 10, with receiver and 0 line problems in 2015.

      It’s funny to me, that some of you state that Rodgers is finished, that he doesn’t have it anymore. Like stupid funny.

      I highly doubt in 1 off season, Rodgers forgot how to throw a football or play this game. Get real.

      1. Phatgzus January 17, 2016


  22. PF4L January 17, 2016

    I could deal with McCarthy, if…..he wouldn’t be so rigid in his ways. If….If he ditched the arrogant attitude.especially when someone inquires about accountability. If…. he could hire someone talented who could take play calling duties, so he has some time to be more hands on with the team. I feel like when he’s calling plays, the team has no ultimate leader on the sidelines. Do you think he has time to feel the pulse of players?

    I harken back to the meltdown in last seasons Seattle game, when he didn’t even know Mathews wasn’t in the game. Even when the defense is on the field, i don’t know if he has a clue what’s going on around him with his team.

    1. Howard January 17, 2016

      I don’t think he does have the pulse of the team, specifically the D. You said it last year and I believe it apples this year. I wonder how the defense would have finished if Kevin Greene was on the sideline?

  23. gort January 17, 2016

    I haven’t seen much about our running game. Lacy had a bunch of nothing runs then broke 1 long one, but couldn’t get the score because he ran out of gas. Maybe a bad rib was slowing him down or maybe his weight. Like I said a few months ago, Jerome Bettis always looked overweight, but his play was never a problem.

    PS – the blowout in Carolina is now a 10 point game and the Hawks are driving again.

    1. PF4L January 17, 2016

      Ok….. i’m finally gonna address the Lacy rib injury issue, as i’ve been waiting to see if anyone else like Shawn noticed what i noticed in the Washington game.

      My contention is Lacy doesn’t have a rib injury at all. with 4 minutes to play in the Washington game, McCarthy was calling run plays with Lacy. Now….if a running back has a rib injury and you have to play next week against Arizona in the 2nd round of the playoffs, why the fuck, would you hand the ball to a guy with sore ribs with 4 minutes left in the game, UP BY 3 SCORES?

      Makes no sense.

      1. PF4L January 17, 2016

        Ok…lol….I guess no one wanted to hear that Lacy wasn’t injured (shrugs)

  24. gort January 17, 2016

    I agree with Shaun on MM. He has no killer instinct and maybe has “nearsighted hindsight”. If MM had 20/20 hindsight, then Janis would have been out of the starting lineup long ago.

  25. gort January 17, 2016

    My bad – Adams would have been out.

  26. ARS85 January 17, 2016

    Way too much talk about Rodgers declining (lol) this team trending down and other teams in the division surpassing us. It is a QB league ….bottom line and we have one of the best. He had a down year but take a look at all the pieces that were missing around him. This team has all the pieces ,the issue is coaching. I’m not going to just openly spout off saying McCarthy sucks,he’s an idiot, etc etc. I just think the packers need a new coach with a different attitude to take this team that next step. Bringing in the right guy might get this team a couple more Super Bowls with Aaron Rodgers. The core is strong and its young .

    And looking ahead to next season, albeit very prematurely ,the packers play the afc south and the nfc east. If the team stays healthy they can make a run at a top seed and take it from there.

    All that being said about McCarthy I would be shocked if Thompson and Murphy fire him. This is the way the packers operate, content to just be there and always keeping around the guys they brought in. It’s just easier to never admit when you’re wrong .

    1. Fritz fm WI January 17, 2016

      that was that reptile al michaels who was comparing AR to the tanking stock market, replete with a backhanded reference to AR’s “dead cat bounce”.

      got i hated it when they gave NBC the coverage of this game, as well as the Favre “forgive and forget” night as well.

  27. billabong January 17, 2016

    Can we please tone down the “bruce arians” praise for a min…i mean let wait till he actually wins anything??? Jesus christ all of a sudden he’s the best shit since sliced bread, and i fuckin love bread…fuck him and his hat…;yah we sucked a lot this year but give me a break with Arians…oh yah, he’s the hottest thing going…well the Panthers are going to blast this team take that to the bank….

  28. Packer fan in Maine January 17, 2016

    You guys are comedy gold. Bitch bitch bitch but not a one of you has a friggin clue. Show some balls and stop being fans until MM and TT are gone.

    You mad, bro?

    1. Shawn January 17, 2016

      Great post, bro.

      1. PF4L January 17, 2016

        Why would you delete the post i had here?

  29. billabong January 17, 2016

    will someone please tell me, with using logic, who they would like to see coach this team…please use available people…you know the people who are actually without a job and who would be available……..???????

    1. billabong January 17, 2016

      still waiting…

      1. PF4L January 17, 2016

        You can wait and wait and wait, but sooner or later, your gonna be called upstairs for dinner.

    2. Fritz fm WI January 17, 2016

      anybody who is out of a job right now would be better than a guy who is now spooked and cursed by his own choking failures… the real reason he wouldn’t take a risk and put the pedal to the metal when they had the opponents down on their backs on the ground is obvious:

      his job tenure/paycheck and job security of his crew of ASS[istant] “coaches” is ultimately the most important thing [i.e. WINNING is not the most important thing…]

      1. billabong January 17, 2016

        thats what i thought…no names or relevant thought put into that post….”anyone”…hmmm there are a lot of anyones out there thats for sure….maybe Ditka…hahaha…he wore a packer sweater…

    3. Shaun January 17, 2016

      How about Jon Gruden? Bill Cowher. Josh McDaniels. Jon Gruden. Jon Gruden. Jon Gruden. Ummm Mike Singletary. Jon Gruden. Lovie Smith. Jon Gruden. Jon Gruden Jon Gruden Jon Gruden…

      1. billabong January 17, 2016

        mike singletary!!! hahaha…Jon Gruden??? He should stick to what he does best…snarl…i don’t see teams clamoring over him…

    4. Shawn January 17, 2016

      MM, the guy who has a street named after him, a Super Bowl, and seven straight trips to the playoffs, which is a first for a franchise that has been around for nearly 100 years.

      Boy, that was easy.

      1. Shaun January 17, 2016

        Do you ever give thought to the fact that Aaron Rodgers is just THAT good. Take Aaron Rodgers away from this team, and MM is a pile of shit – just like Belichick wasn’t much in CLE without Brady. Doesn’t change the fact that Belichick’s balls are a good match to the TALENT that Brady brings. AARON RODGERS has made 7 straight playoffs and won a SB – not MM.

        While we are giving undeserving credit to coaches for a team’s success, let me point out that Jon Gruden won a Super Bowl with Brad Johnson at QB. That’s right, Brad Johnson.

        I am not saying McCarthy is a bad coach. In fact, I think he a good coach who’s message has gone stale and who’s philosophy doesn’t mesh with the way this team is built…

        1. PF4L January 17, 2016

          When a team wins a Super Bowl, credit has to be shared and acknowledged, whether it be TT, MM, or DC’s #5 ranked defense. It takes a team to win a Super Bowl.

          With that said, if you took Rodgers away from the Packers like you mentioned, it’s my contention that those 3 wouldn’t currently be employed by the Packers.

          1. Phatgzus January 17, 2016

            And you take Brady away from Belichick and you have him getting fired from the Browns. It’s about the players first and foremost.

          2. PF4L January 17, 2016

            The difference phatgzus, is frankly, i view Belichick a far superior coach than McCarthy, on a totally different plane. When the Patriots have personnel issue’s, they address them, and fix them, in various ways, that may go to the GM, but i believe that Belichick has full authority over player personnel.

            When the Packers have issues, they live through them, sometimes for years. They can draft players, try changing them into something they’re not. They can bring in 200 UDFA’s and try to find a diamond in the rough. and sign a few free agents over the course of a decade, but at the end of the day, the Packers don’t get it done. As a matter of fact, they will live with their mistakes far too long, than admit to making a mistake, and try to fix it.

            Lastly, a Belichick team has discipline, they don’t often make bonehead mistakes like the Packers seem to do on a yearly basis. I think the difference is the Patriots hold themselves accountable and the Packers clearly do not.

            Here’s one example. If Lacy played for Belichick, do you think he would be allowed to come into camp 30+lbs overweight? I highly doubt it. He would lose weight, or he would be gone.

          3. Phatgzus January 17, 2016

            Blount had issues even after he joined the Patriots. He was gone the next year then they brought him back. The Patriots aren’t as young as the Packers either, especially on D. That said the Patriots do not keep losing OT games in the first minute and TT did not address certain issues this year. However, TT does go into free agency, it’s just not generally big names in UFA. The fact that he doesn’t is a myth.

        2. billabong January 17, 2016

          i won’t argue the stale part…but i just don’t see anyone who will come in and not waste Rodgers last years trying new shit that may or may not work…a healthy offensive team would go along way toward making Mike look like a good coach again…bad coaches have shitty teams, good coaches have great players…

      2. PF4L January 17, 2016

        If your QB is Teddy Bridgewater, or Jay Cutler, Alex Smith or any 2nd tier QB and you went to the playoffs 7 straight years, that would mean something. Just having Rodgers basically gets you in the playoffs.

      3. Cheese January 17, 2016

        Once again, making the playoffs with an 8 win record is nothing to brag about other than you’re easily the luckiest team in the league, and without Rodgers coming back from that collarbone injury early there is no fucking way McCarthy gets that team into the playoffs.

  30. Cuban January 17, 2016

    Why is no onecritical of the asshole capers switching to a fucking zone immediately after janis’ first td, the longest drive they had was in the first half given a short field. Aside from the two interceptions, the first of which was before the go ahead td, they didnt make any stops in the second half

    1. billabong January 17, 2016

      collingsworth didn’t seem to like it…who knows what goes on in the mind of the “genius”…he probably thought the offense could do something…

    2. Phatgzus January 17, 2016

      Capers switched to zone after Fitz’s catches vs. Randall and Hayward. The D had been on the field the majority of the second half and he was probably afraid they were getting tired and would get beat deep more easily. Still a mistake because unless you get to him with pressure (which the D just couldn’t quite manage for much of the 2nd half) a good/veteran QB will chew up the zone, which Palmer did. Then Capers went back to man, Randall had a pick, and Shields dropped one that may have ended the game.

    3. Shawn January 17, 2016

      I haven’t reviewed the film yet, but that is also my first impression- the game changed when the Pack went almost exclusively to a zone in the second half. The Cardinals last 4 possessions were FG, INT in the endzone, TD, TD.
      Sickeningly similar to last year, the defense kept the Packers in the game for 3 quarters only to give out at the end.
      Capers had reasons to go with the zone, and the Cardinals were starting to catch on to how to beat the man coverage, mostly by targeting Hayward against Fitzgerald. And even so, the players have to make plays. I can bitch about Capers all day, but if Shields catches the ball, it is a different story. Still, it is a coach’s job to put the players in a position to win, and he has to know that these guys don’t play well in zone.

      1. Shaun January 17, 2016

        Agreed. Going to zone was not wise. Yes, the Cardinals were figuring out they need to pick on our weak link Hayward, but why then was Gunter inactive. Why does the coaching staff refuse to realize what everyone else seems to know? HAYWARD SUCKS. With Shields, Randall, Rollins and Gunter, we can go man up against anyone. As proven in the first half. We allowed 75 yards on 25 plays in the 1st half. Then, they adjusted and went after our shitty player, and we then went to zone because Gunter was inactive. See comment #96 above, from P4FL, when talks about fixing issues and how the Packers live through their issues and almost lie to themselves to try and convince that there is no issue. Casey Hayward is an issue. He is the new Jarrett Bush. Jarrett Bush the CB was always a steaming pile of dog crap, just like Hayward is now.

        1. Phatgzus January 17, 2016

          Because the coaching staff knows more than any fan especially the casual one. It’s extremely easy to make ill-informed decisions based on an attachment to a certain player.

          1. Phatgzus January 17, 2016

            That’s especially true when there are no repercussions on the said armchair GM, like one’s credibility or career.

      2. MMTTDCSUCK January 18, 2016

        Perhaps they should have tried Gunther, he is taller, stronger and more aggressive than Hayward. Kind of like the Adams vs Janis situation. the better athlete rides the pine . . .

    4. icebowl January 17, 2016

      Repeat performance from last year’s Championship game vs. Seattle …

      Believe Phat hit it – and point is Shields makes any of the three he shoulda had and GB is playing vs. Cam next Sunday ….

      Ultimately, between chains and near INTs this team was inches away from second straight NFC Championship appearance.

  31. Shaun January 17, 2016

    P4FL hit it right on the head with comment #96 above. Perfectly put

  32. icebowl January 17, 2016

    It’s been great venting with all you guys this season…..
    Thanks for you expert analyses, management rants and above all the laughs ….

    See y’all in September

    Go Pack Go ….