Shawn (9-5, 9-5 ATS) — Most places that I have seen favor the Arizona Cardinals at home by 4.5, and that is a reflection of the bettors’ continued over-respect for the Green Bay Packers and Aaron Rodgers. A truer line is probably within the 7-9 point range for the Cardinals.
The Cardinals have been better than the Packers at pretty much everything this season. Carson Palmer is having his best year as a pro, or at least since he tore up his knee. Aaron Rodgers is having his worst. The Cardinals have the best core of receivers since Larry Fitzgerald was in his prime and had Anquan Boldin across from him. The Packers’ receivers… never mind.
The Packers haven’t been terrible at defense, but their run defense remains shoddy. Meanwhile, in David Johnson, the Cardinals may have found the back that can take them the distance. The Cardinals are injured in the defensive secondary, but so are the Packers.
Cardinals’ coach Bruce Arians isn’t a moron. He knows the same as you and me that the only good chance the Packers have in this game is to get Eddie Lacy, James Starks or both rolling. He isn’t going to let that happen. The Cardinals’ formula will be to blitz early and often and tackle the running back on the way to the quarterback. Either way, the Cardinals won’t allow the Packers to simply hand it off. They’ll follow the lead of everyone not named Dallas, Minnesota or Detroit and force the Packers’ passing game to beat them.
The Packers know damn well that the division is going to come down to week 17 and the Vikings. A division title, or at least not losing to a division rival at home, should be some source of motivation. I doubt the thought of returning to the Arizona sunshine is likewise.
Cardinals 31, Packers 17
Monty (8-6, 8-6 ATS) — I obviously didn’t know what I do now back in the beginning of the season when I convinced my old lady it was a great idea for us to go to Phoenix for this game. Now, well over $1000 later, I am in a state of great regret.
Record-wise, the Carolina Panthers are the class of the NFL. However, the Arizona Cardinals may be the best team in the league. They are certainly on a plane above the Green Bay Packers. So essentially, I just paid a bunch of money to fly to this desert shithole, watch my team get fucking annihilated and be pissed off for a few days.
Smooth move, Ex-Lax!
I find it laughable that the spread is only 4.5 for Arizona. You take the Cardinals and you take them all goddam day.
They have more talent, they’re a better coached football team and they’re a more complete football team. If it weren’t for Cam Newton, you’d probably be watching the league MVP in old man Carson Palmer, on Sunday. The Cardinals have been able to run the football regardless of who’s in the backfield and they can obviously throw, as evidenced by the 4,277 yards, 32 TDs and nine interceptions Palmer has put up this season.
Plus, here’s a team ranked seventh in the league in total defense and sixth in scoring defense.
Like I said, a complete football team.
Do you know who doesn’t have a complete football team? Of course you do. The Green Bay Packers.
In order for the Packers to win on Sunday, they would have to do the following.
Shawn is right. The Packers should want to establish the ground game. The Cardinals should be set up specifically to stop that. They have the personnel to do so.
That’s going to leave it up to Rodgers and he’s done nothing this season to suggest he can carry this team by himself. Certainly, the Packers’ receivers won’t be doing anything to provide any assistance. So that leaves Rodgers to pull some magic out of his ass.
And if that’s what you need to win a football game, then you’re in trouble.
Cardinals 27, Packers 17
For the first time yet, I vehemently disagree with you Monty. Dude, he’s still Aaron Rodgers. I’ve been chastising him about as much as you have been this year – he certainly deserves it – but let’s not forget who we’re talking about. The dude is good. His receivers suck, and he’s having a down year.
Beginning the season, I was NOT a member of the contingent of Pack fans blaming play calling for our struggles, but now, after watching MM back doing it for 2 games, we have shown signs of being a good offense. Let’s see what happens. I still hate MM as a coach and creative play caller, but he’s certainly an upgrade from that fucktard Tom, Don’t-call-me-Klements-sausage, Clements.
I think the Defense is gonna have to win this game for us, and with Shields now out, that looks less likely, but let’s see what happens. 23 and 24 are ballers – its 29 I’m wary of. Gunter should get the call. He won’t, but he should…
LAY OFF OF RODGERS MONTY!!!!!!!!!
I just do t understand the hate for Hayward-sure he’s not very good at corner, at least not versus burners, but he’s been a pretty darn good nickelback (no not the shitty “alt rock” band) his entire career, yeah he tucked up a coverage route last week but he doesn’t usually, he’s relatively intelligent, instinctive, and pretty sure_handed for a DB.
Usually agree with Shawn but I say throw throw throw. Spread them out with the shit receivers we have and succeed on one of three plays each set of downs. Don’t try running on these guys for long or possibly even at all. This is the game where Rodgers should throw it 50+ times.
I didn’t think the Packers would win this one before seeing this week’s injury report, not with this being the second week in a row the Packers have a long distance away game against the most complete team in the name NFL, a team that is red hot, I just didn’t want to be taken out back and Fargoe a la the Denver game. Now with the injury report looking the way it does, that seems like quite the possibility. At least Zona doent have a premier pass rusher but they do have a talented front 7 (their secondary need not even be mentioned for its greatness is obvious) led by the extremely talented Calais Campbell. Matthieu being down also helps a great deal.
What I hope to see this week is an injured, jet-lagged Packer team enter the house of arguably the best team in the league and be competitive. More specifically I want to see the o-line and Eddie Lacy be consistent and solid. I want to see James Starks and Davante Adams hold on to the ducking football. I want to see Jarred Abbrederis continue to improve, get open, and earn more playing time. I want to see Jeff Janis continue to dominate STs. I want to see more 3rd-down conversions and red zone TDs and less of Mason Crosby (no fault of his own) and our new long-snappers. Most of all, I want to see Aaron Rodgers start to click with his receivers and resemble a bit of the Rodgers we know.
If we are able to be competitive that will give me a lot of hope that we can beat Minisoda twice in a row and maybe, somehow some way Zona at home in meeting #2, especially if by some miracle we can get healthier without a bye. Winter is the season to heat up and believe it or not the Packers are, having ground out 4 in a row.
Go, Pack Go!
I don’t think the Pack will win, but, heck, if Minnesota can lose by three against AZ (after having the ball strip-sacked away in FG range at the end), then the Packers can compete, too. Minnesota also lost the turnover battle in that game (0-3). Let’s hope a game in a controlled environment (not shitty rain like the last two games) helps and we’ll see what happens. They better not show up and pull another fucking Denver on us.
Oh ye of little faith….
Pack wins, in a sqeaker : 24-21…..
Starks goes nuts, Janis has coming out party and D blows Palmer away !
Go Pack, Go
Wary of Hayward in the slot? Do people even know what they’re talkin about…
Do you even watch the games, or do you just listen to what other people tell you? Casey Hayward is an extreme liability. The guy is TRASH outside, and not very good in the slot either.
Slot? All that means, really, anyway is you’re generally going against the 3rd or 4th receiver. Of course it’s going to be easier than covering on the perimeter against the 1 and 2 WR.
The guy has made two good plays all season, and both came against the run. One was in Carolina. I can’t remember for sure the 2nd, but damn near positive it came on Thanksgiving against bears.
He gets carved up every time he’s on the field. Watch the game, and use your own two eyeballs – don’t listen to the consensus that this guy is fucking Darrelle Revis in the slot….He’s not…..He sucks
He was grossly outplayed in preseason by 23, 24 AND 36. 24 has already usurped him on the depth chart. 36 should be next
75% packer fans in the stands should make it feel like a home game.
It’s Football, the last sport that doesn’t involve HGH or any other medically induced drug to make a player perform at superhuman strength. We will witness a miracle in the desert sand if the Pack manages to win, which by all accounts has happened every win since training camp. Some stupid play that makes you shake your head. Anyway I am mostly excited to see a football game that involves the best player on the field today. Brett Farve was the best at improvising and now Aaron Rogers is the smartest, most complete quarterback I’ve ever seen at his position. “It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood”, this is going to be fun to watch win or lose.
They lose this one 42-34 in a shoot out but will be back to beat them in 3 weeks. All 3 of the Packers playoff games will be rematches MN, AZ, CAR/SEA
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ok the first part of the comment was a little stretched in my opinion but it has merit in a comedy skit on Saturday Night Live. Just an opinion.
“It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood” , Why in the world would anything I say change the game?. The Packers are “as good as it gets” , They’re season rides on execution and fundamentals, if the packers go to AZ. and play a game they know, with the players they have, the coaches, they should win this game. “Capiche”
A game you’re not supposed to win is always an opportunity game.
well said ….
and proven – Only other time Vegas bet against GB was when Pack went to Minnesota – for big win !
yes, these Cardnals have all the pieces. Unstoppable multiple weapons on O, and way to fast and solid on D. The Packers have no direction or speed on O and have major problems on D against quality QBs with multiple receivers. Packers on paper should lose big. No one respects this Packer team. In fact when the Pack win they win ugly. When the Pack lose they lose ugly. This is just an ugly 10 win team. How the hell have they won any games? The Cardnals are too bright and shiny for these ugly ducklings.
This game again comes down to two ugly things, blocking and tackling. The Pack O line can open holes and protect Rodgers, just use some misdirection, play action, and roll outs. Be patient Rodgers the receivers will come open. The Cardnals flow fast to action, and leave the edges and middle of the field open. Use that against them in the pass and run game. In fact Janis if used (big if) would be best in drag or quick crossing routes on misdirection.
D needs to get pressure on Palmer with four, and can. Safeties need to be big in pass coverage deep and on the TEs. Palmer will put the ball up if pressured. Tackle on the perimeter. No YACs.
Keep the game close early and Finish Strong! GO PACK!!!
First off, Monty…write your pick before you read Shawns…wtf is that?
My prediction is based on my superior football intellect and knowledge that is always respected and only challenged by a few thousand people that i deem irrelevant anyway.
The Packers 0 line will pass block like i know they can, finally giving Rodgers 4 seconds to read his progressions and find the open man. I also see this unit run block better than any line in the history of the NFL, enabling Lacy and Starks to have over 120 rushing yards (each). Rodgers throws for 34/38 and 473 yards with 6 tds and 0 picks with a passer rating of 158.3.
The defense will light up the Cards offense with unrelenting pressure up front with a NFL record 14 sacks. Peppers will have 4.5 sacks, with Clay getting 7 sacks. Even Guion and and Jones contribute with 1 each. Raji, proving he is the ultimate warrior, plays hurt and gives a lights out performance with 3 assisted tackle and a 1/2 sack, which he gets falling backwards over Peppers who already sacked Palmer, so they share the sack. (After the sack, Raji runs around with his finger in the air making sure everyone knows he was involved in a play). The defensive backs also contribute with Heyward getting 2 picks, one of which is a pick 6 for a 102 yard td.
So i see the score ending up at Packers 42 and Cardinals 3.
*Although this prediction is based entirely on football expertise and countless hours of research, i reserve the right to change my prediction before the end of the 1st quarter, based on any and all un forseen circumstances that weren’t unveiled at the time of this writing.
8 rushes for 21 yards in 1st quarter. Whaddya think MM? Keep running it down their throat ?
Please lose out get this shit show of a season over with!!
It’s like watching a comedy…
THEY DON’T EVEN DESERVE TO BE IN THE PLAYOFFS..JOKE OF A TEAM
RODGERS DOESN’T EVEN GIVE A FUCK IF THEY WIN..
I was not even upset until that FUCKING BUFOON kept playing Rodgers and Lacy after they had been hurt and pummeled righteously for 3 plus quarters. Take them out! Save them for the one and done playoffs . . .