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Lackluster Packers Outlast Lackluster Raiders

Monty McMahon by Monty McMahon
December 20, 2015
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Damarious Randall

The Green Bay Packers got themselves a 30-20 win over the Oakland Raiders on Sunday.

And that’s about the best thing we can say about that.

The Packers had already secured a playoff spot prior to the game because of the New York Giants’ loss to Carolina earlier in the day. So the win over the Raiders kept the Packers a game ahead of the Minnesota Vikings in the NFC North and alive for the No. 2 seed, which is currently held by Arizona.

Now, about the win itself.

Was it done with smoke and mirrors?

We’re not quite sure. The way the Packers played on Sunday, it didn’t seem like they would have beat the Bay Port JV squad by 10, much less an NFL team.

It was kind of like a couple of mentally challenged dudes got in a boxing match and, well, one of them had to win. Except, in reality, the level of ineptness was greater in one participant than the other.

And on this day, your inept Green Bay Packers were slightly less inept than the inept Oakland Raiders.

So, you know, got that going for ’em!

Seven days after throttling the Dallas Cowboys with a punishing ground game led by Eddie Lacy and a stifling defense led by a dominant secondary, the Packers decided, ah, what the hell. Let’s just throw all that stuff out the window!

The Packers defense wasn’t particularly good on this day, giving up a total of 372 yards and a pathetic 4.8 yards per rush, but the offense was right back to being downright terrible. The Packers managed just 293 yards of total offense. They didn’t bother trying to establish Lacy (11 carries for 23 yards) and, as usual, guys like Davante Adams and Richard Rodgers looked like clowns.

Adams managed five catches for just 32 yards on eight targets. Rodgers was targeted four times, but caught just one for seven yards.

These two guys literally looked like they had no business being in the NFL on Sunday.

The one guy who got something done in the passing game was James Jones and his hoodie, who caught six for 82 and the Packers’ lone receiving touchdown.

What was more confusing was offensive genius Mike McCarthy’s play calling. After taking over those duties last week, McCarthy quickly established a game plan that played to the Packers’ current strengths — run Lacy a lot and get Randall Cobb in favorable match-ups by lining him up all over the place.

This week, McCarthy did very little of the former and some of the latter. However, it seemed more like his objective was to try to confuse everyone by going pass-first — Aaron Rodgers threw 39 times, completing just 22 — and to feature James Starks and John Kuhn in the backfield.

Total and utter buffoonery.

Considering how bad the Packers offense was, it’s amazing they put up 30 points.

Oh, wait, they only put up 23.

In fact, Raiders quarterback Derek Carr was pretty much the Packers offense in the first quarter.

Carr threw two first-quarter picks.

The first, which was intercepted by Micah Hyde, was returned inside the Raiders’ 10. So that set up a short, five-yard TD run by Kuhn. The second was picked by Randall and taken 43 yards to the house.

So essentially, the Packers offense really only scored 17 points.

And we doubt they would have had those if it weren’t for some opportune penalties. The Raiders drew 10 flags for 95 yards. Two of biggest came on third down pass interference calls and allowed the Packers to sustain drives.

Hell, even Jones’ touchdown came after Jeff Janis returned a kick out to the 47.

Obviously, the resurgent Packers offense is not resurgent at all. It’s still total fucking garbage, but the stench was temporarily covered up by some air freshener or maybe one of the plug-in things.

It’s really depressing to watch.

The story today was the Packers defense made just enough plays to stop the offense from blowing another one.

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Comments 61

  1. SC Packfan says:
    7 years ago

    pretty sure this is a Debbie downer site, fuck these Admins. Blah Blah fuck you it a win, did you really think they would go to the SB every year? Nope they won’t. At least they are fun to watch every week..

    • PackAttack says:
      7 years ago

      Go away. If you don’t like what’s on here go jack off somewhere else. Today was a fucking joke in every sense of the word — if you actually watched the fucking game and had a clue you’d know this.

      • bob says:
        7 years ago

        “SC Packfan”. . . That really says it all right there.

    • icebowl says:
      7 years ago

      Dude – if you thought that was “fun to watch” you’re a friggin idiot !

  2. Remedy says:
    7 years ago

    Next week is going to be an atrocity

  3. billabong says:
    7 years ago

    Fun to watch?? Not if you like well played football…this win sucked if there is such a thing…redzone offense is horrible and too many head scratcher plays from the Big Mike…bah…i dread the Arizona game…

    • Andy says:
      7 years ago

      Just when you belive that MM is going to turn this offence around, he calls a full back screen to John Kuhn on 3rd and goal.

  4. Majik says:
    7 years ago

    I’ll take it. Raiders are a team on the rise. Not impressive game. Haven’t been blown away this entire season. Still waiting for that one game where we are clicking on all cylinders, e.g. Packers beating Giants in 2010 at seasons end., we’re in the playoffs….again. Im happy for that.

  5. dennis says:
    7 years ago

    All the hype about the Packers locking up a playoff birth is laughable the way they are playing. Another one and done ending is what we will get. The biggest thing is I hope we get some changes in the recievers coaching staff . This group of wideouts is laughable.

    • Skinny says:
      7 years ago

      Davante is the biggest fuckin puss WR ive ever seen. And nobody calls him out on the sideline either which is mind blowing. Favre and Holmgren would have tore this dude a new asshole seven games ago.

      • TyKo Steamboat says:
        7 years ago

        He is a pussy. You are correct. He is afraid of the contact

    • bob says:
      7 years ago

      agree.

    • icebowl says:
      7 years ago

      spot on

  6. Packer Bob says:
    7 years ago

    I’ve never known another fan base to complain about winning as much as Packers fans. At least the fans on this site. Perhaps we need to lose again to appreciate what it’s like to _not_ have a perennial playoff team.

    Oh, who am I kidding? You people don’t care. Fire MM!! Fire TT!!

    • Andy says:
      7 years ago

      We have been spoiled for sure, but it all comes from the frustration of not being competitive once we get to the playoffs. We obviously want to win at least one more superbowl with A-rod, and the way we’re playing at the moment, it really doesn’t look like we will match up against that many teams in the playoffs. It looks like we could get the Vikings in the wild card weekend, which we can win for sure, but as soon as we have to face, arizona or Carolina we should be beaten badly

  7. Packrat Dan says:
    7 years ago

    Adams sucks, can run a good rout but can’t catch . To many dropped balls that were catchable for first downs or touch downs. Unload that pretender. Things don’t click when one guy ruins so many drives.

  8. Dan says:
    7 years ago

    This offense is not fun to watch every week. The passes are not pretty and the drops are worse. I can’t even count how many times I have heard an announcer say “Aaron isn’t making the throws we are used to seeing him make.” Hats off for making the playoffs at least, and the defense is getting better, but I am not expecting much in the post season.

  9. Ivomitonvikingfans says:
    7 years ago

    Pat yourselves on the back. Another 10 win season. We can all be satisfied now and tell ourselves that Ted and Mike did another great job. Couldn’t be better. Cant wait for the same shit next year.

    • Skinny says:
      7 years ago

      Yea no shit, it goes from super bowl or bust talk in the Summer then in late season its ah fuck it, we won 10 games, we got a playoff spot, it was a great season for us. That’s the denial with the organization that pisses me off.

  10. the real russ letlow says:
    7 years ago

    If we win the division playing football like this then McCarthy, Capers, the grounds crew, the mail room guy and the guy that turns out the lights at night all need to be fired! WTF? If we can’t get quality wins against teams vying for a playoff spot in their own stadium in the rain, then we should just fire Mark Murphy too. And his secretary, because she answers the phone for him. Ball boys, all of those people who shovel out the stadium when it snows, fire them too. We probably ought to fire the fans as well because there wasn’t near the 50, 000 at the game that should have been there. Bah! Humbug!

  11. Phatgzus says:
    7 years ago

    This ^

    And at least you spoiled phucks got to watch the game, I got to watch Carolina-NYG which was a complete shut show for 45 minutes.

    And, Monty, sure looked like James Starks was playing better ball (if only he could hang on to the phucking phootbal) than Lacy today. How many times does MM have to say he’s going ride the hot hand ’til you figure out he ain’t phuckin’ lyin’?

    And what in the Hell was with that INT by Rodgers? Dear God, Man, throw it away.

    • Skinny says:
      7 years ago

      Rodgers gift wrapped that one for Wood, yea knew that was coming too. Everyone is losing their shit about that. I’m not pissed about that as much as I am with the continued ineptness of the offense.

    • stickman says:
      7 years ago

      It looked like Rodgers was pissed at somebody after that throw, wonder if he was pissed at Janis for not running the right route or whoever missed a block on the defender that made him hurry the throw.

    • icebowl says:
      7 years ago

      Spoiled phuck ????

      I got Miami vs Los Angeles Chargers …..

      Went to a “Packers Bar” that had bartender in Raiders garb, more Oakland fans than ones in green and gold and shitty beer/food selection to add insult to injury …

      Drove 40 miles at half to be able to watch last quarter with “friendlies”….

  12. SC Packfan says:
    7 years ago

    10-4 and these Daisies complain, I live in Charleston and have had more ” Go Pack Go” when out on Sunday than any where else.

  13. billabong says:
    7 years ago

    hey guys, if you can’t stand the rightly earned criticism of a poorly played game, GO TO THE PACK SITE AND CHAT WITH POMPOUS ASSHOLE VIC KETCHMAN!!! But watch out, he’ll make fun of you and talk down…i can’t wait for Teddy to make some more head scratcher high draft choices like dickrodge and adams….

    • Skinny says:
      7 years ago

      Don’t even get me started on Ketchman. The ultimate Packer blowhard who believes its all correctable in one week, one play, ha. God that guy is tool.

      • billabong says:
        7 years ago

        he’s a dick…they didn’t like him in Jacksonville i wish he stayed there…doesn’t take long to get banned from his site…just ask any kind of critical question…he’s worse than a homer, he’s an ass of a person…

        • PF4L says:
          7 years ago

          I have never been on that sight, but if what you say is true, i’d probably be banned within 24 hours..lol.

          Sounds like a bunch of pussys.

  14. Kato says:
    7 years ago

    Wow. That was some of the worst analysis I have seen, and I didn’t even watch the game (not on local tv in Chicago area). Failed to try and establish Eddie lacy? He got 11 carries! And averaged a hair over 2 ypc with those totes! I would assume the the packers ended up in a lot of 3rd and long situations as a result. Sorry, but you aren’t feeding the ball to a running back averaging 2 ypc when it’s 3rd and 6.

    On a side note, notice that Charles woodson was late getting over on James Jones td.

  15. Phatgzus says:
    7 years ago

    And Randall and Rollins and Cobb and and Nelson and Montgomery and Matthews and Bulaga and Rodgers. Seriously, fuck Ted, whatta hack.

    FYI: you don’t need to go to Packers.com to be deigned to, we can do that right here, ya fuckwit.

    • TyKo Steamboat says:
      7 years ago

      We’re 10-4
      Whats wrong ?

      Ted built this tem

  16. Phatgzus says:
    7 years ago

    That last is directed to billabong.

  17. billabong says:
    7 years ago

    deigned?? hey at least we can swear here, your cherry picking a few years worth of draft choices there pard…I’m talking last year…how about 2011..Cobb..oh, and Derek Sherrod…nice job..

  18. Phatgzus says:
    7 years ago

    Of course you’re not gonna be able to talk shit on the Packers official website, have you not noticed the organization’s mantra of “Packer People”? Holy phuck.

    And I have like 4-6 years of draft players and you’re telling me I’m th on cherry picking when you list 2? LMFAO. I’ll even give you Justin Harrell and Brian Brohm. That still ain’t shit. Furthermore, both Harrell and Sherrod had injuries derail their
    careers. Helpful hint: before you talk shit, get a phuckin’ clue before you make yourself look like an ignorant ass.

    • PF4L says:
      7 years ago

      (clue)…Sherrod couldn’t beat out Newhouse (twice), even when he was healthy.

  19. billabong says:
    7 years ago

    hahaha…stupid kid…you sound even younger than one of them there millenniums….phuck is still fuck does it make you feel more civilized to say phuck or are you just a dork…anyway, enjoy lad, we all have our opinions…hell, been watching the Packers twice as long as you been on the phucking phlanet..i was at the phuckin ice bowl lad!!!

  20. jtmax says:
    7 years ago

    Defense won the game today with 2 devastating picks in their territory. That’s pretty good. What are you complaining about. The only legit complaint is with adams and janis dropping great td throws by rodgers. Jones and abby saved the game with reliable hands.

  21. Phatgzus says:
    7 years ago

    “…your are”, well at least you have all your bases covered.

    I knew my spelling of the eph sound would piss one of you ninnies oph. I guess I can kind of understand though, iph I had my mensies every week for five months I’d probably act like a pissy twat as ophten as
    possible too.

  22. TyKo Steamboat says:
    7 years ago

    We just beat a slightly above average team on the road. We did well. No doubts.

    It was in bad weather. We typically suck in such weather (See Thanksgiving…)

    I am OK with this game. We got the job done. I could do without the Cobb in the backfield running plays… Exploding cigar…

  23. Andy Pants says:
    7 years ago

    What about Montgomery, Rollins, Randall, and Ryan? Are those “head scratchers”?

  24. Andy Pants says:
    7 years ago

    billabong, something like 85% of the Packers have not played anywhere else. 10-4, seven straight playoff appearances, two NFC championship games played, one Super Bowl victory. Tell us more about how Thompson doesn’t know what he’s doing, and tell us about all the other GMs who are doing better.

  25. Cheese says:
    7 years ago

    The offense has looked horrendous all year. 3rd and 1 is like their kryptonite. So is the red zone.

  26. Phatgzus says:
    7 years ago

    Rhys sad if you’re that old and still bitch like a phive-year-old girl. Mayb you’ve been watchin Packer phootball for twice as long but apparently you know halph as much about the game in general.

    And nah, not a millennial, but please, DO go on about “kids these days”. I leave the floor to you, your Senile Geriatricness.

  27. Phatgzus says:
    7 years ago

    That’s* (wow, Monty, nice mobile reply system you got there).

  28. Phatgzus says:
    7 years ago

    @PackAttack

    Yup, a win against and an up-and-coming team with a very talented young QB, receiver, and DE, and the best DB of all time in their house. All the while to keep our slim hopes of a number 2 seed alive, whatta fuckin’ joke.

    Sure the offense looked like shit again and we won’t get anywhere in the Playoffs like that but we ARE in the Playoffs so theres still a small glimmer of hope for our pathetic situation that about 26 other teams would like to be in. But hey, if you want to give up on the season just as the best games are starting go right ahead.

  29. chaka says:
    7 years ago

    They should sign Colt Lyerla for the playoff run. They need a TE that can stretch the field. They lack an impact receiver.

  30. PF4L says:
    7 years ago

    I’m tired of bitching about the offense. Waiting for it to come around. we’re 14 games into the season, i don’t think it’s coming around until Jordy gets back. With that said, maybe if the receivers could get a little separation, catch balls that should be caught, and the 0 line could hold blocks longer, and run block like they did against Dallas, we would still have a fairly potent offense, all “ifs”.

    Regarding Lacy not getting enough touches….He had 11 touches for 23 yards, Starks had 9 for 53 yards. Now, i’m not a mathematical genius, but it seems Starks should have had more touches. Lacy’s problem is when he doesn’t have a open hole to run through, he starts dancing, when he dances, he’s dead meat. He just doesn’t plow through people at the LOS and make his own lane like he used too. McCarthy said he was rejuvenated, after watching him today, i have no clue what that means. 23 yards and a missed blocking assignment resulting in a sack isn’t going to get it done.

    For those who say stop bitching, because were always in the playoffs, that is true…BUT…
    Look at the losing history of teams in our division. It’s not real hard to figure this out, the only real threat has been Minn in 2009 against Brett, and the recent success the vikings have had, when i say success, i’m talking 9-5, hell, we were just 9-5 and we’ve been playing like shit.

    Final word…Hats off to Randall’s pick 6 and Hydes pick to the 3 yard line, resulting in 14 points and probably the win.

    • PF4L says:
      7 years ago

      *9-4

    • jtmax says:
      7 years ago

      I agree that our passing game will be awful until we get Jody gets back. You cannot have a good passing game with a bunch of slow receivers. I never got Adams pick. He ran 4.56 40. Too slow.
      Janis had plenty of chances and he proved that he can’t be a receiver in NFL. We now know why he can’t get in FCS school. Can’t catch and can’t locate the ball. Abby gives me hope. Monty will be good next year. I think we should cut Adams. He can’t block, catch or fight off bumps and grabs. Too slow and soft. I like that kid from Michigan St. Burbridge. Dude is physical as hell. Opposite of Adams. Can catch backshoulder.

      • Andy Pants says:
        7 years ago

        jtmax, that’s a reasonable comment, following PF4L’s reasonable comment. That’s two in a row, which I think is a record for “most reasonable posts in a row on TP.”

        Adams looks like garbage, but I’m not ready to give up on him. Green Bay is known for its receiving corps (except this year), so when their coaching staff and our MVP QB say he’s got talent, I defer to them. Many of our best receivers have taken three or four years to develop in the past. Take a look at guys like Donald Driver all the way back to James Lofton.

        Not surprisingly, everything the coaches said about Janis not running routes properly, etc. appears to be 100% true, and the casual fans/idiots here were 100% wrong. A few weeks ago they all knew for a fact that Janis was the answer.

        • DJ says:
          7 years ago

          lol Just stop. You’re clueless & a poser. Last week I said the exact same things about the Packers WRs without Jordy & lamented the fact that we didnt recognize it & do something about it……and you said you were embarrassed for me. Now, seven days later the same conclusion is “reasonable” & you admit the corps is project laden & needs time to develop. lol Have it both ways much?
          And now your latest caper is to lecture the “casual fans/idiots” who wanted Janis to get more looks, of which I was not one…..because YOU are thee legit, hardcore all knowing Packer fan! That would be great except…..a REAL hardcore Packer fan….would know that James Lofton made the Pro Bowl three of his first four yrs in GB. Including his rookie yr, thus does not even remotely qualify as “developed.” So much for that brilliant thesis. I guess you’re not as smart as you think. Your opinion is valued but do us all a favor & get over yourself. As I have just proven, its fools gold. Judge not lest ye be judged. Thus endeth the lesson.

          • Andy Pants says:
            7 years ago

            I don’t pretend to have all the answers or even deep insights of my own. Sometimes I am wrong like with the Lofton comment, but I usually do not make declarative statements about things I don’t know much about, like coaching an NFL team or managing an NFL roster. Most of my posts are about perspective and context, not claiming that NFL GMs or coaches are idiots or that I know better. I do respond to outlandish statements from fellow courageous keyboarders (“keyboard GMs” and “keyboard coaches”?), like you, who literally do claim to know more about the NFL than people like Ted Thompson. (For example, when you call Thompson “arrogant” and “cheap,” and you say “it’s not rocket science,” you are claiming to know more than Thompson on roster management.) For example, if somebody says that “something” should have been done (whenever), I ask, “What should have been done? How would you have done it differently?” If somebody says a coach is an idiot, I ask, “Compared to whom? By what standard?” etc. I have fun doing it, but I want to see how well thought out these comments really are. That’s my basic approach, and I think being an asshole is par for the course around here. If you want to bait me and get a reaction from me, say something like “Thompson is stupid for not getting Colt Lyerla. The Pack would be 14-0 with Colt Lyerla,” and I’ll bite almost every time. That’s how it works.
            My James Lofton comment was not accurate. I was looking up stats of other Packers receivers in the past, a few days ago (for a post I did not submit), and I mistakenly remembered Lofton as being one of the WRs who took a couple years to develop. While my Lofton comment was not accurate, Lofton was not my entire point or “thesis.” I was trying use him as an example of my actual point, so I think that point is still relevant because there are WRs who were good, but it took them a few years to get there.
            For example, Driver had 520 yards in his first three seasons, Brooks had 306 yards in his first two seasons, and Nelson had 686 yards in his first two seasons, for example. Adams has 833 yards so far in less than two seasons, so it seems to me that there is a chance he could improve next year. I don’t think it’s certain that Adams will remain bad. I disagreed with jtmax a little bit on that, but he’s not calling anybody management arrogant cheapskates, so I didn’t get too excited.
            So, did jtmax say the exact same thing that you said last week? And did I call the exact same comment reasonable this week, but lamentable last week?
            Last week, you said that “we’re $12 million under cap and have done nothing to address Nelson’s absence.” You said they have given Aaron Rodgers “a hurt rookie, a 2nd year slump guy, two injury riddled projects, an aging recently cut WR, and a decent slot guy who doubles as an RB to throw the ball to.” You said it is not “rocket science” to fix it, our front office is “arrogant & cheap,” and “you get what you pay for.”
            Jtmax said, this week, that our passing game will be bad until Nelson comes back. He said he did not understand the Adams pick because he says Adams is too slow, and he thinks Janis has had chances to produce as a WR but has failed. Then he said that he is optimistic about Abbrederis and Montgomery.
            These are not identical statements, and these comments do not address the same point.
            Your comment was about how cheap and arrogant you believe the management is, that management has done nothing to address the WR problem, and that it is not rocket science how to fix the problem. So you’re calling management names and saying it’s not (or wouldn’t have been) hard to fix the problem. Jtmax is saying, similarly, that the WRs are playing poorly, but, that is the only similarity between your comments. Unlike you, he is optimistic about a couple of the guys that management has placed on the roster, he is not calling management arrogant, he is not saying anything about how to fix it, and he is not saying anything about salary cap or about management being cheap. These specific issues were not addressed by jtmax, and these are the specific things that I lamented about your post. I never disagreed with you, last week, about whether the WRs were playing poorly. I hope that clears it up.

  31. Phatgzus says:
    7 years ago

    Sherrie was a rookie and he was starting towards the end of the season, then he broke his leg.

    • PF4L says:
      7 years ago

      lmao…Sherrod “started” by default because of injurys, they had no choice, and Newhouse was already starting, for the same reason.

  32. Shawn says:
    7 years ago

    7 straight seasons in the playoffs. That is a franchise first, by the way.
    Packers are long shot this year due to their inept passing attack, but get in and you have a chance. Just ask the 2012 Ravens who were mediocre on offense and defense before getting hot in the playoffs.
    The Raiders stacked the box and dared the Packers to throw. Big surprise. As bad as the passing offense was most the game, Jared Abbrederis presents some hope, and Jones and Cobb played well. By the way, stop giving Cobb the ball out of the backfield. If he gets hurt, you can truly kiss your season goodbye.
    No reason why James Starks didn’t see the field until the drive before half. WTF?
    Defense got it done. Subtract the braindead TD given up before half, and it was a very good defensive performance. Draft picks? Randall and Rollins look like studs. Also, great game by Hyde. Now get Shields back and you’ve got a pretty tough pass defense. Run defense needs work.
    Need to play well against AZ or get smoked.

    • PF4L says:
      7 years ago

      Agreed about the braindead TD right before halftime. Not sure what the “best” slot corner in the NFL was thinking.

  33. Andy Pants says:
    7 years ago

    For those of you who don’t think McCarthy makes any changes, what do you think of increased offensive production from the first half to the second (97 yards and 196 yards, respectively)? Why were they able to double their production in the second half?

  34. Andy Pants says:
    7 years ago

    No, I’m not. I’m casual, and I don’t pretend to know much.

  35. dawg says:
    7 years ago

    Once again Captain Cheeto(Lacy) was a no show….Receiver’s are soo slow I could guard them. You bet Rodgers is pissed…

  36. vj says:
    7 years ago

    The sad thing is, the NFC was wide open for the taking this year. Make a couple moves (Ted) and you could find yourself with another Championship rather than an early exit from the postseason.

    Ah, well…there’s always next season, right?

    Look at NE, right or wrong, they GO FOR IT EVERY FUCKING YEAR. Just signed Steven Jackson to close out the season, yeah I know I know he’s old, but hey, at least they fucking try to do something!

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  • Howard on Love; Packers Fail to Impress in Preseason OpenerI always want to see the Packers win. I also believe the it was a…
  • Tom M on Love; Packers Fail to Impress in Preseason OpenerYour right Kato. In his first preseason game last year Jordan Lov…
  • Kato on Love; Packers Fail to Impress in Preseason OpenerI honestly don't think the stat line does Love any favors. Was he…

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