This is pretty much exactly the reaction we expected from Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy about the report detailing defensive lineman Letroy Guion’s history of legal issues.
McCarthy refused to talk about it (predictable) and then called the report itself garbage (somewhat surprising).
“Well first of all, I’m not going to react to the article,” McCarthy said. “I thought it was garbage, and the fact of the matter is we take a lot of pride in our program here. We’ve had people that make mistakes. There have been second chances. There’s a thorough process that goes on continuously. We’re all being evaluated. We all have bosses. But this program is something that’s been built over 10 years here. I personally take a lot of pride in the program. Unfortunately, we have someone that’s probably going to make a mistake in the future. We’ll continue to evaluate it and move forward.”
Let’s start at the top here.
The report — which detailed Guion’s legal issues prior to his February marijuana arrest and included some troubling allegations that look worse than the drug charge — made the Packers organization look like a bunch of assholes. They either didn’t do their due diligence on Guion or they just ignored their findings, then tried to conceal them while continuously feeding us the bullshit about how important character is.
Frankly, we think McCarthy’s answer is fucking garbage.
He’s basically saying, “We are beyond reproach and don’t have to answer to you peons.”
And that’s pretty much the stance the Packers organization takes with any subject they are uncomfortable with or don’t feel like answering for.
We’re not trying to suggest they fuck up all the time, but they do fuck up and they never answer for it.
Now, with that said, we are not saying Letroy Guion shouldn’t have gotten a second chance. In fact, if he’s going to learn something and get it right, this is probably the time he’ll do it. That February arrest didn’t cost him his career, but it did cost him a lot of money. Not only is he probably going to lose the nearly $200,000 and his truck as part of a civil forfeiture, but the arrest prevented him from signing a lucrative long-term free agent deal.
He’s now playing on a one-year, $2.75 million deal.
Not peanuts, but Guion would have made a lot more if he weren’t arrested.
As for the program, we don’t think anyone is questioning McCarthy’s program. It seems pretty clear that’s just his way of making this personal and getting defensive about it.
Letroy Guion is one of my guys. He’s in my program. You’re questioning of him is an assault on my program, which is an assault on me.
Again, childish bullshit.
And again, not the real issue here.
Someone needs to come forth with a good answer for this. Here’s where it starts.
- Were you aware of these legal issues prior to last week and, if so, what exactly did you know?
If they were aware of them prior to last week, then these are the follow-up questions.
- Who specifically knew about these issues?
- What made you comfortable employing someone with these perceived “character issues?”
- Would someone with a similar history be employed by the organization in say, the personnel, equipment, public relations or food services departments?
- People in the organization constantly speak about high character. How then do you justify someone with Letroy’s checkered past being part of this program?
- Why did you choose not to disclose this information publicly?
- Do you regret that decision?
If they weren’t aware of the issues prior to last week, then these are the follow-up questions.
- Why didn’t you know?
- Do you have a background check process? If so, explain your process and how that factors into whether you will sign them or not.
- How will this change your background check process?
- Does this jeopardize Letroy’s spot on the team, either in the immediate or long-term future?
Of course, we don’t expect any of the reporters to actually have the balls to question the Packers and we don’t expect the organization to step up and own the situation. They never do. They’ll just sweep it under the rug and keep happily collecting your money.
Remember, those in the Packers organizational hierarchy can do no wrong. Just ask them and you’ll be accused of being an asshole for even inquiring. There’s no fucking accountability so long as no one asks tough questions and demands answers, and the bottom line never decreases.
Nothing to see here! Please move along!
I honestly dont like that it was the Packer beat writer who helped publish this. He replaced Ty Dunn and hasn’t even become half as good as Tyler was. Never has any inside scoop and is late with his reports/mostly reposts what’s already been reported. Most of the shit he does post is nothing but a negative shot at the Packers. He dug in for this one but sure fucked up any chance of him get decent resources for packer inside information.
If he did really commit all those crimes then he would be in prison. He’s innocent unless proven guilty. I doubt that he gets a break much because he is black and not really a celebrity. All I can say is that he has behaved like a good citizen when I see him on the field so I can only judge that. Let’s not soil the man unless proven guilty or you really know the guy.
Yeah, celebrity athletes never get off because they’re rich. You tell ’em!
Has anyone mentioned that Guion is scheduled to have his driver’s license revoked for 5 years next week as a habitual traffic offender? Maybe coach can give him a lift to and from work.
Then we’ll see what is and isn’t garbage.
“You want answers?”
-“I think I’m entitled to them.”
“You want answers?”
-“I want the truth!”
Who gives a shit..
He’s basically saying, “We are beyond reproach and don’t have to answer to you peons.”
That has been MM and TT since they got here. Im for the most part ok with it from TT cuss he’s pretty much the boss, but from MM? No, fuck that guy. But then ive never been a fan.
Everyone knows he’s an arrogant fat ass blow hard. Now if he can with Arodge another SB, I dont care. If he doesnt win another one, he is a huge failure in my book.
I’m with cheese on this one. Why are we supposed to care about this? I watch the packers to see my team win, not to give a shit about the players off field lives and personal character issues. Oh it’s because the organization is lying about their intentions and signing players with poor off field history’s? Well that changes things…… Just kidding. Who gives a shit
Who’s to say the alleged (and completely unproven) drug dealing connections aren’t complete bullshit? You don’t think the police investigated any and all such claims by informants following his possession arrest? Give me a fucking break!
The only character that I care about is whether Guion steps it up in the 4th quarter to make big plays and win games. As long as the Packers win the can hire all felons
ARE. YOU. FUCKING. SERIOUS? The media should conduct a witch hunt based on the allegations of a few rats??? It should go so far as to see if the Pack are digging into their food service workers histories? Getthafugouttahear.
Is this still a Packers fan site or do you guys just sit around and talk shit about the players, the coaches, the GM, and the organization? I’m not sure you get it, but hey, continue to perpetuate noise regarding off-field issues prior to one of the bigger games of the season. The next article should be titled: Aaron Rodgers Goes Baby Clothes Shopping, Isn’t Focused On Football.
In case you didn’t see it, they already have an article with Clay Mathews and his new lady shopping at Toys-R-us for baby toys. I’m sure there was shit talking involved about how she got pregnant, her previous relationship, and how Clay probably wont be a good dad because he quit on his team in the NFCCG.
Hahaha… That is awesome. Props.
Here’s the deal, the Packers (and McCarthy) stand to gain nothing by answering these questions or to get caught up in this. Nothing positive can come from dealing with this, publicly, right now. What the hell is he supposed to say? “Yeah, we screwed up and should not have hired Guion,” or “Guion is a loser, and we’re sorry”? Seriously, the only thing answering those questions would do is cause dissension. It would be absolutely stupid from a PR/business and coaching position to fall into this trap. The Packers need to win games right now because they’re in the middle of the season, and Guion is a major contributor to the team.
I think you’ve nailed it Andy. And if the article itself were half accurate, Guion would have been in jail long ago. And so there’s nothing for MM to respond to. As another poster pointed out, the greatest damage done here is by this apparently hack so-called journalist, and the damage is to himself and the idiot editor who cleared this to be published.
I am just here so I won’t get fined…….
Who cares? Worry about something else. Who are you to be so high-and-mighty?
In this world “bubble” we called America, talent usurps all other concerns. It’s more an admission of past draft failures on the defensive line than anything and screams of desperation to keep more talented ball players employed when draft picks don’t work out.
This is stupid. If he hasn’t been arrested, passes his required testings and acts professionally in meetings, around team and facility and on the field…then shut the hell up. Coaches need to coach. Let’s beat the Broncos!
You guys are spot on. This isn’t the fucking Girl Scouts, this is a profession in which 250-pound plus men get paid to knock the snot out of one another, there has to be something a little wrong with most of them. If you can’t handle that then maybe you should go watch Cristiano Ronaldo roll around on a field for 15 minutes because a gnat landed on his kneecap. At the very least knock off this Captain America-Official Mouth Organ of the Disenfranchised bullshit.
“I am not going to react to it…I thought it was garbage.”
Hahahaha… Unintentionally funny. That reminds me of… “Let’s not get personal here. Alright! Who said that? Who said that?” – Volunteeers
People who continuously get on the organization for not admitting fault about something are comical to me.
Its PR 101. As an individual, admit fault if it will make you more personable and win you PR points, but as an organization, never admit fault. Instead, dismiss, downplay, dismiss. If someone keeps asking the question, then put it on THEM. THEY are out to get you or on a witch hunt. There is nothing to see here. Move along.
Our country’s current administration will host seminars on this after their time is up. From the WH to the NFL to the Packers. Same shit.
Why do we assume the Packers didn’t know these things, or that they ‘screwed up’?
I don’t see any basis for that assumption at all.
Unless you are a total moron.
The Packers, being a class organization with high character, is the perfect place for someone to come in on a one year deal and show they are deserving of a second chance. This speaks to only good things about the Packer organization.
Anyone saying otherwise is an unrepudiated asshat. Including you Monty, you ignorant douchebag.
He was a Viking when most of this stuff happened. That’s what Vikings players do….they get in trouble with the law.