This had occurred to me prior to the Green Bay Packers’ third preseason game. The Packers had three rookie cornerbacks playing some really good ball. They had a de facto starter in Casey Hayward playing some very non-descipt ball. So why shouldn’t one of these rookies replace Hayward in the starting lineup?
I’m talking, of course, of first-round pick Damarious Randall, second-round pick Quinten Rollins and undrafted free agent LaDarius Gunter.
All three guys have shown evidence of being — if not really good — then definitely very solid.
I let that thought pass for the simple reason that I couldn’t distinguish which of the three rookies was the best cornerback. I figured, let’s watch this third game and see if one guy separates himself from the pack.
Well, unfortunately, that didn’t happen. All three of the rookies played, but none of them did anything notable.
If I had to choose a pecking order, I’d go Rollins, Gunter, Randall. But if you asked me in a hour, I might go Gunter, Rollins, Randall. Somehow, at the same time, I wouldn’t have any problem if Randall were first in the order.
You get the point. These guys have all played well and it’s hard to say who’s the best of the three right now.
What I am now pretty certain of is they’re all more deserving of playing time than Hayward.
Hayward was pretty much handed the starting spot when camp opened. Hayward had a hell of a rookie year, with six picks, but hasn’t done much in the two seasons since. However, he’s shown the ability to make plays from time to time and has always been saying that he can play outside and that he can start.
So, it’s fine that the Packers gave him a chance to do that.
What has he done with that chance? Not much.
He’s demonstrated that the main thing we always bash him for is still a major problem. The guy can’t tackle and that’s fine if you’re Deion Sanders, but Hayward is not Deion Sanders.
And that’s a nice segue because the reason you dealt with Deion not tackling (or even trying to tackle, in many cases) is because that clown made plays. Game-changing plays.
That seemed to be what Hayward was about. His tackling will get better, they said. This guy makes plays!
Except that he doesn’t seem to do that anymore either.
Hayward started seven games as a rookie, when had those six picks. Due to injury and ineffectiveness, he’s started only two games since. He’s also only had three picks since.
Perhaps most telling is this. Hayward played in all 16 games twice — 2012 and 2014. In 2012, he had 21 passes defended. In 2014, he had just seven.
In short, he seems to be regressing. And look, the Packers gave Hayward his shot outside and that certainly doesn’t appear to be the best place for him. He just doesn’t seem physical or athletic enough to match up with the receivers who line up outside. He may not even be fast enough anymore.
Hayward’s only NFL success has come in the slot and that appears to be where he needs to play.
That is, if he plays at all.
Throwing these rookies out there means they’re going to do some rookie things and take some lumps. But let’s look at it realistically.
Randall, Rollins and Gunter all appear to have a greater upside than Hayward does at this point. If they’re equal to or even close to Hayward’s ability level right now, which we’re pretty confident is the case, then they need to be on the field.
What are we suggesting?
Hayward go back to where he was last year when he got pushed down the depth chart by Davon House and Micah Hyde.
Make your top four Sam Shields and, in any order, Damarious Randall, Quinten Rollins and LaDarius Gunter.
At least he is not Ahmad Carrol…was it one L or 2? That’s right who cares.
Jesus Christ that guy was fuckign terrible. I still remember watching that last game against the Eagles… seething at how much he gave up. Then celebrating when he was cut the next morning
The Packers are/were more than aware of this, and penciled him in as number one for the sake of motivating the rookies. Heyward’s issues with availability, ball tracking, and tackling were exposed long before he spent the Seattle collapse on his ass watching his man haul in the ball, not to mention this pre-season.
There’s a reason why the Packers spent their first two picks on DB’s. Personally, my money’s on Gunter to start outside and Rollins in the slot.
Casey wants a decent season to get an offer from a warm weather town.
He is frail, weak and needs to go.
Cali or Florida is his goal.
Gunter has outplayed them all, but the Packers don’t have the balls to start him in week 1. They won’t play who has played the best, they’ll make the totally safe play and go with Hayward.
John Schnieder sort of bashed McCarthy a while back about having the young talented players needed to win, but that the Packers weren’t playing them.
Every camp, the past should be thrown out. It should be about the guys who have earned the right to play right now. And that means Gunter.
If a rookie is put in the game, teams will go after them.That is one of the reasons Hayward had so many rookie INT’s. I would want the rookie with the best ability to find the ball in the air and make a play on the ball. With the limited plays so far all three have had at least one game were they went up and either defended the pass or intercepted the ball. Gunter has had the most plays on the ball and has the instincts to find the ball in the air and make a play. I would believe Gunter is better at RCB at this time. I think if Gunter is in Shields may need to move to LCB.
Something everyone always forgets is that what these guys do in practice weighs heavily, and we aren’t seeing every practice. The word from practice quite often is that Gunter gets beat deep. He makes plays, yes, but his speed is a handicap.
It looked like Hayward was in good position the couple of times they threw the ball on him. He did badly blow a tackle. Yes. But let’s remember its preseason.
Agree 100%….Camp and preseason are fine. But you put your chips in the middle of the table during the regular season against the other teams best players and best effort. That’s when you find out who can ball, and who can’t.
Has done nothing the last 2 years??? Well, except for grading out as our 2nd best defensive player last year and 9th best CB in the NFL!!! And done in only about 40% of the snaps. I guess he’s done nothing if you consider that nothing. 2 of the 3 years in the league he’s been our best coverage CB, and grading out as the 4th best in the league as a rookie and 9th best last year. And obviously the other season it wasn’t gonna happen being that he was injured pretty much the whole season. The disdain for Casey Hayward from some is absolutely ridiculous!! He may not be a physical player, but as a CB he don’t need to be, he just needs to cover. And so far this preseason, he’s done nothing wrong!!! He’s the starter and deserves to start the season as our #2 CB until he does something that loses the job for him!!