On Wednesday, the Ginger Hammer handed out a 10-game suspension to Dallas Cowboys defensive end Greg Hardy.
Although he was convicted of nothing, it is widely assumed that Hardy was guilty of domestic abuse. And the NFL will not tolerate domestic abuse, at least since they got caught going light on Ray Rice for punching his fiancee.
Now, that’s a hefty suspension and Hardy will not be paid while he’s sitting in the corner, thinking about what he did. But this is not about the Dallas Cowboys and Greg Hardy. No one who’s worth any salt gives two shits about either of those entities.
This is about the Green Bay Packers and defensive tackle Letroy Guion.
As you know, Guion was busted with a pretty large bag of weed and a gun early this offseason. He was charged as a felon, but reached a deal where he would do no time and the charges were dismissed. These things — and by these things, I mean the courts of the United States — don’t mean anything to the NFL though.
Because the NFL is bigger than the courts, you see. They dole out their own justice. Vigilante justice. Ginger Hammer justice.
So you can bet your ass Letroy Guion is getting a suspension of some kind. He’ll probably be getting a call any day now. The only question is, how many games will he miss?
The problem with determining that is, these things are totally arbitrary. It depends what kind of mood the Ginger Hammer happens to be in on that particular day. The NFL will surely suspend Guion under the guise of “violation of the NFL’s personal conduct policy.”
Over the years, those suspensions have varied from one game (numerous guys) to indefinite (Adrian Peterson).
Looking over the list of guys who have been suspended, our best guess for Guion is two games. Greater suspensions are reserved for guys who beat women or their kids, gamble, kill other people, shoot themselves, are involved in dog fighting, repeatedly get caught using drugs (performance-enhancing or otherwise), take part in bounty programs or are named Ben Roethlisberger.
Well, if they do, its bullshit. They didn’t charge him, took his weed, his cash & his truck.
Weed is NOT a performance enhancing drug, unless you’re a competitive eater….
I’m guessing four, just because Goodell wants a more “tough on crime” image than he earned last year.
I agree. He’ll give him 4 and let him appeal it down to 2. Makes Goodell look good when the “system” works, right?
“Greater suspensions are reserved for guys who beat women or their kids”
Only until recently, and that was after the NFL had video proof for months that was eventually leaked to the internet. THEN, only after public uproar did dipshit Goodell decide that it was bad for the NFLs image to not suspend Rice for a significant amount of time. They didn’t give a shit about his wife. Good thing for women the NFL cares about it’s image and making money.
I say “Ginger Hammer” and Panama Red (Guion) meet in Colorado and discuss it over a bowl of their favorite bud. After the meet and greet Ginger may give Red a 1.5 game suspension that can later be reduced by half.
The biggest problem I see is if Red was driving under the influence. If that is the case and I do not believe that was one of the charges. A DUI or evidence to support such, cannot be taken as lightly as relaxing with some bud. 4 games if DUI, 2 games if not. Then cut in half.
The gun was completely legal like thousands of people in Wisc own and use…the weed, meh….taking his truck…bullshit..
wow, i am sure glad i changed my real name from Roethlisburger to Smith. you can’t be too careful these days, even if you don’t play football.
I don’t get the NFL, Le’Veon Bell was charged with driving under the influence and he said he didn’t know being high was considered under the influence. He wasn’t suspended at all. Frankly these are the kind of idiots the NFL needs to crack down on and they let them off the hook.
I think he got 3 games, pending appeal. maybe 2?
Ted Thompson, if he had any moral fiber at all, would not have extended Guion’s contract. If Guion was just the average Joe, he would be behind bars.
Gun was his legally, truck was his legally, money was his legally, he wasn’t DUI so driving legally.
The weed was the only thing…And man this isn’t 1978. Weed is being decriminalized now. Two states and more on the way have legalized. I doubt anyone who is getting caught with personal use weed these days is getting big time sentences unless they have priors and other factors.
Honestly, I didn’t put any research into this but it’s a hunch. It sounds like a small town sheriff reaping the benefits of service. I don’t think its as cut and dry as athlete gets off. And he didn’t kill anyone. I don’t think its fair that you say “if he had any moral fiber at all…”
Dud got busted with some weed. I don’t smoke it but…who gives a shit anymore?
To “knucklehead,” Yes, this isn’t 1978. But, Guion was caught with more than just a nickel bag. He had 357 grams, which converts to 12.59 ounces. The market price is about $360/oz. Sorry, but the average Joe isn’t driving around with $4,532 worth of weed in his truck. When he was first pulled over by the police, Guion allegedly said, “Don’t you know who I am?” Money talks and apparently the Florida criminal justice system listens. Shame on it and shame on Ted Thompson, who missed out on an opportunity to send a message to the team that the Packer organization has a “zero tolerance” policy for irresponsible public behavior.
“…allegedly said” – as reported by whom?
“Shame on it and shame on Ted Thompson, who missed out on an opportunity to send a message to the team that the Packer organization has a “zero tolerance” policy for irresponsible public behavior.” – This isn’t the girl scouts, cupcake, he had some weed and a legally licensed gun, big whoop. There are much more important things in this world to be offended about, so please take you crusade of pontification elsewhere.
Since when is an NFL starter an average joe? The average pothead would absolutely go overboard like that if he had that kind of money to blow on weed. Smart? Definitely not, but it doesn’t scream perpetual criminal either.
Phatgzus: Anyone who isn’t man enough to live-up to his responsibilities to society and behave legally and civilly isn’t “man-enough” for the NFL. I suppose that there are many out there who would identify with a team of dopers, thieves, drunks, murderers, wife beaters, child molesters and other types of sociopaths, as long as the team wins.
“Anyone who isn’t man enough to live-up to his responsibilities to society and behave legally and civilly isn’t “man-enough” for the NFL.”
-Tell that to Ray Lewis, The Juice, etc.
Furthermore, civil obedience doesn’t necessarily equate to moral rectitude.
“I suppose that there are many out there who would identify with a team of dopers, thieves, drunks, murderers, wife beaters, child molesters and other types of sociopaths, as long as the team wins.”
-Nice reductio ad absurdum ya got going there.
Salazar: You misinterpreted my earlier post about the “average Joe.” The “average Joe” casual user would not have that much weed on him and you or I as, “average Joes” caught under the same circumstances as Guion, would not have been able to get the charges dropped. I wonder if TedThompson made some calls.
Barton: I doubt TT made any calls. The one thing that has bothered me about Guion’s arrest has been no DUI charge.
It seams more likely that the Police performed a spot check with no reason to pull Guion over. This is called illegal detention and is frowned on by the courts. Guion’s attorney probably made a valid case with the prosecuting attorney or judge causing the case to be dropped.
Guion was stupid for driving around with a controlled substance, however someone has to do so to get the product from the seller to the buyer. The amount of bud Guion had is really not that much. You have to realize these are some big guys.
Howard: Sorry, Howard, but a court of law ruled that there was “probable cause” to pull Guion over, to search his truck and to confiscate the truck, cash, MJ and gun. His truck was weaving all over the road and when the police officer pulled him over and Guion rolled down the window, the smell of MJ was noted. Guion settled the criminal case against him by paying a $5,000 fine. The civil forfeiture case for his truck, etc. is still pending. It would be interesting to read the contract extension that he recently signed with the Pack to see if It requires routine drug testing and whether it can be voided if he fails a drug test or is arrested again.
So Barton why wasn’t Guion charged with a DUI if he was swerving all over the road and there was the smell of burnt bud? Appears the Police pulled him over for no reason in order to observe and search. The police may have had some knowledge or belief that Guion was carrying. Maybe from an earlier stop that Guion made?
I had forgot that Guion did pay a fine. You are correct the case was not dropped, although the severity of the charges had to be greatly reduced, or Guion assisted the Police in some way.
“Furthermore, civil obedience doesn’t necessarily equate to moral rectitude.”
Some people need to get off their high horse. Pun not intended, but I like it.
While it is true that “civil obedience doesn’t necessarily equate to moral rectitude,” it is, at the least, evidence of it, just as criminal behavior is evidence of moral turpitude.