I love this. Chris Kluwe is really, really pissed off at his former employer, the Minnesota Vikings.
Kluwe says the Vikings cut him because of his outspoken views on gay marriage. There was an independent investigation, which resulted in the suspension of homophobic special teams coach Mike Pfeiffer on Friday. He got three games.
Before the suspension was announced, Kluwe decided he was suing the Vikings. He wanted the results of the investigation made public. The Vikings did not and we can only imagine why.
We also know the Vikings tried pay Kluwe to go away. I mean… they offered him a settlement.
He declined and the Vikings still wouldn’t budge on releasing the report.
Obviously nothing to see here. Everyone PLEASE just move along!
Well, Kluwe is not going to let that happen. He started dropping bombs on Twitter that included this beauty.
Oooh, shall we talk about the time two very well known Vikings players were caught in a compromising situation with an underage girl?
— Chris Kluwe (@ChrisWarcraft) July 19, 2014
This can only get better. We’ll be watching how it all unfolds because… fuck the Vikings.
FUCK the viqueens
You had better watch out organic your statements may be considered to be homophobic. You could receive a severe flogging by the Viking activists!!
I bet Jared Allen is very nervous regarding the next bomb from Kluwe. Now Jared knows how the sheep feel. Dysfunctional team and State.
I can’t seem to name more than one very well-known Viking for some reason…
What are the odds on Old Man Favre being one of the two?
Can we start guessing the two guys?
Kluwe is vying for the most desperate attention whore of all time.
He wants to be a male Kardashian.
His forum was taken from him, and now he’s doing everything he can to stay relevant.
I love it! The more distractions the better. I wonder who the Pack plays first in the playoffs?
Kinda interesting when the only player making headlines is your ex punter…..
One thing of note is that Minnesota has sensible age of consent laws at 16, not 18, which creates the absurd legal fiction that a hot to trot senior in high school, just a month shy from her 18th birthday, is somehow a child.
Either the gal was not in fact underage in Minnesota, or those two players like them really, really young.
At a more macro level, I am not sure what to make of this. I do not like the NFL being thrust into the realm of political correctness, replete with employment discrimination suits like this which, as far as I understand, are based on a quasi-theory of hostile environment.
On the other hand I hate the Vikings so tend to support anything that is bad for them. Another problem is that the Vikings are going to suck either way. It is a shame to waste such a distraction now. Should have saved for when, or rather if, they become somewhat competitive.
What the hell is going on out here?
So this story has turned into Wolf explaining how it is ok, indeed “sensible” to allow grown ass men to bang 16 year olds.
What the fuck is wrong with you? 18 year old age of consent laws are nothing more than a holdover from the “uptight puritans?”
Do you read the shit you write before posting?
Trust me, I’m pretty far from a puritan, yet I know that a 16 year old girl isn’t mature enough to detect your bullshit.
I dont remember reading anything in his comments where he led me to believe he thought it was sensible. The law is the law. If the law says it is ok to bang a 16 year old then so be it. Practice your own set of morals. Me personally, would have no interest in a 16 year old (I am 26), and i set the line at 22.
Yes and no. Just because I do not think distasteful conduct should not be criminalized does not necessarily mean I somehow condone it. My position is that laws should coincide with human biology and current sexual mores. Notably, this position is supported by the vast number of states in this mixed up, confused society torn between profligate sexuality on one hand and puritanical hangovers on the other (only ten have age of consent laws at 18), as well as all of Europe with which we share a common Western heritage.
Most young people are sexually active at 16. In terms of biology, one could easily substitute an 18 or 19 year old young woman for a 16 year old and vice versa.
To be sure, I do not condone such behavior, but that does not mean I feel it should be criminalized. For instance, my 95 year old grandmother believes that marijuana should be decriminalized to take the criminal element out of it. That by no means she approves of pot smoking or pot smokers.
If you really do not believe people should be having sex until they are 18, ok fine. Burn down MTV. Ban Britney Spears, actually quite a dated reference, Katy Perry and all such other elements that encourage promiscuity in the culture. I am afraid however that without a fascist military dictatorship, you are over sixty years too late for those kinds of changes.
As I wrote in another response, If I am going to criminalize bizarre, immoral, unnatural mismatches in age, I am going after Hugh Hefner and Donald Sterling before I nail some 22 year old chasing sophmore or junior tail.
I know my position is controversial. I can hear people gnashing their teeth through the computer screen.
Those that know me, on this board and in real life, know that if I am anything, I am implacable. Name calling will not persuade me. False accusations of pedophilia, or more rightly ephebophilia will not have any effect on me, because I know it not to be true. I will not back down.
One last thing, just because something is the law does not mean it should be followed. Take for instance the 21 age for drinking, which is almost like a law mandating that the sky should be some other color besides blue. It is ridiculous. Everyone knows high school “kids” drink. All this does is make them want to drink more, and it is also a big reason why young people in high school and college in this country cannot handle it, whereas they can in Europe. Also, by that logic, one would be mandated to honor Prohibition era laws. If everyone had that attitude such laws may never have been overturned in the first place.
Ok – so you say you position is that it should be based on biology and current sexual mores.
So what age is too young for a 30 year old to pursue? Girls get pregnant as early as 12 these days- clearly their biology is ready.
As for mores, do you really think even a slim majority of this country would agree with 30 year old man chasing 16 year olds, or biologically able 13 year olds? Of course not, so your argument is stupid.
And why try to distract with stories of your grandma, pot legalization, puritans, and Hugh Hefner? I think you miss the point of age of consent. They exist to protect young kids that are not capable of understanding the gravity or consequences of sexual relationships from predators who would take advantage of them.
All the other nonsense you write is irrelevant to that point. Legalizing pot and preying on 16 or 13 year old girls are not even in remotely comparable for many obvious reasons.
The point about my grandmother and her position is merely to show that just because someone does not believe conduct should be criminalize, that does not mean that person in any way endorses or condones such behavior.
The bit about Hefner and Sterling is to present what in my mind is a far more alarming and far more repugnant difference in age that is somehow illegal.
I am not sure what the exact age of consent law should be. 14 is certainly well past the onset of menstruation, but gives me pause (even though it is the law in heiligem Deutschland, which is always persuasive to me). I think 17 or 18 is over inclusive, to use legal parlance. Indeed there are stories of guys, after turning 18 as a senior, had continued relations with their long term girlfriends. And because the girls father disapproved, were sent to jail, put on a sex offender registry. At least one instance when the guy got out, he married the girl, and still has to go downtown to register for having sex with his present wife.
I’d say 16 is a good compromise, not as liberal as Europe, but not as absurd as criminalizing relations wtiha grown young woman just shy, by a day or month or wathever, from her 18th birthday.
I quote E. Wolf on post #9: “Minnesota has a sensible age of consent laws at 16, not 18…”
What’s wrong with being a homophobe? Mastay and I make “homo says what” jokes to Goode all the time and he still finds it hilarious when he falls for it.
There’s nothing wrong with being a homophobe.
At Chad and Shawn,
This is really off topic, and I only mentioned Minnesota’s age of consent to show that, if Kluwes allegations are true, to show that the allegations are for more serious than a mere dalliance with a senior in high school.
I must tell you however are I am scarcely capable of having a civil discussion with anyone who truly supports the 21 drinking law. It is one of the more odious throwbacks to our Puritan legacy which makes living in this country a joke.
I will leave your other comments unaddressed, such as your absurd notion that people should not serve until they are 21, leaving the question how any nation is to field its armed forces, let alone ours with military bases across the entire planet.
So again, let’s just leave it at this: Kluwe’s allegations, if accurate in fact and law, mean a couple of vikings were banging a girl 15 or under.
Or that Kluwe is ignorant of MN age of consent laws, perhaps because he doesn’t have a daughter or interest in fucking 16 year olds.
Again, and enunciate each syllable slowly, the 18 rule is a MINORITY RULE, only valid in ten states. Outside of those ten states, you are hard pressed to find an age of consent at 18 in the Western World.
Sorry E. Wolf, everywhere I’ve lived has had 18 as the AoC. I (wrongly) assumed that the vast majority of states had the same. I fully admit that I did not carefully investigate the age of consent in every state/North America/the first world.
Probably because I’m a grown-assed 29 y.o. man with no interest in porking 16 year olds.
You know, it is a hot button issue, with all these teachers getting busted and what not. Then you have prison shows on discovery, one of which was a guy put in prison for having sex with his high school sweetheart.
It is always a good idea to familiarize one’s self wtih relevant facts and laws on hot button issues.
This drinking age thing is completely off topic. I don’t agree with wolf on everything he says, particularly his stance on favre. But these attacks on him claiming him to be a pedophile are ridiculous. I don’t know him personally and he could be a pedo for all I know but him just stating aoc laws in Minnesota in no way makes him one. Have you seen the way these sluts dress nowadays? You can barely tell whether they are legal or not sometimes. When I was in high school I remember it started to move in that direction. I do blame the culture of society for a lot of it. I can see arguments going both ways. 16 year olds may not have the mental capacity to make such decisions. But I also know some 16 year olds more mature than a 21 year old college chick.
Thanks. I am not a pedo–more precisely an ephebophile. But I am a straight male, and I notice things. I understand how human sexuality works, and I have compassion.
As I eluded to in another thread, there are examples of men being put in prison for having sex with their high school girlfriends, really just because daddy does not approve. The usual story goes a little something like this. Guy dates younger girl in high school, as a junior or senior. They start having sex. Then he turns 18, she is still 16 or even 17. Guy gets put in jail (again for having sex with his long term, steady girlfriend), and has to register as a sex offender. In at least one instance, in Illinois I believe, when the guy got out he married her. He has to go down to the police station every Friday as a registered sex offender, all for having sex with his wife.
It is absolute insanity. Just like 21 age drinking law, just like our all of our puritanical legacy is.
If you don’t want your teenage princess having sex with whomever, be he a senior in high school or some guy in his 20s, do a better a job of parenting. I am not even against a father getting physical in certain circumstances where warranted. Just please stop with the absurd legal fiction (look that term up) that a 16 or 17 year old young woman is somehow a child.
And with that, I hope we can get back to the actual topic at hand.
“Just please stop with the absurd legal fiction (look that term up) that a 16 or 17 year old young woman is somehow a child.”
OK. Sounds like a pedophile there.
Pretty disturbing that guys like E.Wolf are walking around looking at 16 year olds and saying- “that looks like a woman there.”
Do you live near a HS? Just wondering.
I would hold off on that move to Europe to bask in the glory of 16 year olds drinking and having sex though. Many parts of Europe may be adopting sharia law within the next 10 years as their muslim populations continue to grow at a much faster rate than their secular population does.
I would expect sexual consent ages to go up within the next decade as well. It makes sense considering how the idea of “consent” is becoming more and more legally strict. Some colleges are even considering requiring written consent before consensual sex can occur. Hahahaha!!!! Totally true.
As I stated before, false accusations will have no effect on me. I am implacable. Also, presupposing your accusations were true, I’d be an ephebophile, not a pedophile.
Just further proof as to your own ignorance.
Just out of curiosity, do you watch game of thrones? If so, you cannot honestly say you looked at Sansa Stark’s character and thought that she looked under 18. Under 20 for that matter. And yes, I felt awful when I realized she was 17.
That is a great example, actually, Kato.
Sansa Stark looks like a girl to me, perhaps aided by the knowledge that Sansa Stark is even younger in the books. A pretty girl, but a girl, nonetheless.
However, even if a professional stylist, and make-up artist, and costume designer have succeeded at making her look like a woman, that does not MAKE her a woman. The character herself, in the show, is very much a girl, with striking differences to the actual women in the show.
Very true. You know in the books she is “a girl and watching the show as well. But just because the person they are portraying is supposed to be “young” does not mean that they actually are. Think Tara Reid from American Pie. She was 23 during the screening of the first one, as opposed to a 17-18 year old high school senior that she was portraying. Which given my age (26) is an attractive girl to me. Granted my idea of attraction will change in my 30s and 40s. I guess my point is with the recent strive for “sexiness” in society, people go to different lengths to look the part. I have heard horror stories about people hooking up with underagers at bars. Yes, older guys my age trying to intentionally hook up with high school students is creepy and just plain weird to me. But to each their own, I guess.
Why would you feel awful? Do you know fashion models are first recruited at sixteen. And I defy anyone to be able to consistently identity those who are 16-17 to those who are 18 or a little older.
Again, I implore folks to look up the term “legal fiction.” You might learn something.
Wow talk about getting off the subject. Who cares what those hillbilly, inbred, rapists from Minnesota put into their laws. Minnesota has to have the largest percentage per capita of mental rejects in the U.S. Hell look at some of the Elected officials the rejects have put in office. Ventura and Franken are prime examples. A body builder would be actor and a supposed comedian. Just look into their eyes and you see reject in their blank stares.
Kluwe probably has quite a few skeletons ( including his own) to air in the public forum. With Favre’s porno pics, Sharpers accused rapes, the love boat escapades, Jared Allen’s alleged livestock rapes, alleged child molestations,and Childress head and nose up Favre’s ass etc. their will be plenty of more opportunities for us to discuss the pros and cons of deviant behavior as the Vikings are clearly a study in deviant behavior.
So let us all remember the Vikings are the rejects not us and here’s to Kluwe opening the Viking closet for all to see. If he could only reduce the stench we would all be a little happier.
Let’s put it this way. Are people suddenly mentally competent to make decisions at 18 as opposed to 17? Take for example my cousin. She had her first kid when she was 16. She is now 30, and recently had a third kid with a third guy. She still is a fuckup. Some people never learn. In the end it comes down to good parenting, teaching your SON AND DAUGHTER the ramifications of their decisions. Make them work for a car and pay for all the stuff that goes along with that responsibility. I think that helps a lot, so that they see how much money it costs to live. Then show them hospital bills to show how much it costs to have a kid. I made the conscious decision to not have kids until I am well established with money where I could fully support them and I think a lot of it had to do with my upbringing
Can you tell we’re all bored waiting for football season to start?
I am disappointed in the profound lack of humor to be found in this article’s comments. Come on, guys, the jokes should’ve all but written themselves on this one.
Salazar: I really tried in my posts. It is amazing how subjects evolve some of the time. Kluwe is certain to provide us with more opportunities. We should take advantage and roast the Vikings rather than each other. The Vikings are easy targets with all their skeletons in the closet.
Sorry, man, but creepy pedophiles should be called out publicly regardless of which NFL team they rout for.
To look at the positive there are a shit load more posts to read and write while we are waiting for the real action. Is it possible some posters are trying to promote more action and may not believe everything they write even though controversial. Just a thought. It probably brings more hits to the site.
So we’ve all been duped…
Well played Wolf… I knew you couldn’t really believe that bullshit you were writing.
By the way, you know what show I kiss? To Catch a Predator. That shit was awesome.