Brett Favre will not have his jersey retired by the Green Bay Packers this year and the main reason for that appears to be because the organization is afraid some people will boo him. Former teammate Mark Chmura also suggested Favre didn”t return for a game last season because he was afraid of being booed.
Not so, says Lord Favre!
“I”ve heard that was a concern of mine, and I”m here to tell you I”m not,” Favre said. “I”m not worried about that. I”m well aware that you can”t please everyone. Not everyone”s going to like you regardless and you know what, so be it? But I think the 16 years that I had in Green Bay speaks for itself.
“Yeah, you”re right, I have played with other teams, but I will be remembered as a Packer. I feel that. I think the true Packer backers, which there are オンライン ブラックジャック tons out there, feel the same way. I”m not the first player to play for other teams or rivals.”
And there it is.
You”re not a true Packers fan if you do not accept Brett Favre back into the fold and completely forget that whole bit of chicanery with the Vikings. Lord Favre said so! So let it be truth!
Hell, let”s take it a step further.
If you don”t love Brett Favre, you”re not American!
Brett Favre is America!
Anyway, Favre went on to talk about how he”ll always be a Packer and blah, blah, blah. But do you really believe he really isn”t concerned about being booed? We don”t.
His ego wouldn”t allow that.
Real Packer fans don’t cheer for ViQueens. NEXT!
It would be hard to boo Favre.All of us fuck up He reacted like a gunslinger would, trying to the last shot in.
Favre is still one of the best QB’s ever. People need to just get over it. Favre is in a way what we made him. We put him on the thrown and then we wonder why he is so arrogant.
God damnit CD….
You see, THIS is what pisses me off. Unbridled egoism. Everyone must adore him, and anyone who does not is a charlatan or imposter.
While my writings have not always reflected this, I understand, to a limited extent, the position favoring reconcilation, PROVIDED it does not suffer from fantastical revisionism (such as that it was just a busines decision or no different than Lombardi coaching the Redskins for a year). And of course that the voice of reconciliation does not come from turncoats who wanted the Vikings to win, of which there were many in our midst.
But to just assert that those amongst us prefer not to be so forgiving, that those among us who remember how dangerously close he was to wrecking our team and making the Vikings Super Bowl Champions, to just act like we do not matter, or that our opinions do not count, that we are somehow not Packer fans? My response to that is: FUCK YOU!
You pretend to be intelligent, and correct, yet you are evidently very immature, zealously holding childish grudges like this. How amusing.
I do not pretend about anything, ever.
And you’re as naive as a fucking child if you can’t understand.
Oh and it would have been very easy to please everyone, at least everyone in Packerland–not play for the Vikings. Oh wait a minute, there are those Berty nutlickers in our midst, who took such great joy in trading their colors. Nevermind.
you might as well kiss that petition adios, E. Wolf. take up leathercrafting, beekeeping or making maple syrup. my brother learned all 3 on the Web and he’s very good at all of them. ;)
You’ll see soon enough, you ugly petulant dog. The same sort of folks were most surprised that Ryan Longwell was booed. Not all of us Packer fans are just smiles and sunshine.
I know for a fact I would not boo Favre at Lambeau field. I would be hard pressed to BOO any past Packer player that was part of a championship or Super Bowl winning team. I would; however with Favre bring an old newspaper with Favre on the front cover in a Vikings uniform and read it while he was being introduced. It would be a great picture for the T.V viewing audience if their were thousands of papers in front of fans faces in the stands and no one would have to boo. I believe the point would be made by those who do not appreciate what Favre did without booing. After all Favre did help THE TEAM win a Super Bowl for the Packers.
This. The thing to do, is not boo. But just sit there with class, like he didn’t. Everyone nonchalantly claps 3 times and no one says a peep.
If I am there, I will boo. He was a great football player, but also an arrogant drama queen that expected the Packers to beg him to not retire for about 5 straight years. When they said enough is enough, he made sure to work his way over to that joke of an organization to try and stick it to the Packers and the fans. He did for one year, and in my mind, I will never view him the same.
He tried to stick it to us, the fans, for what management did. Retiring a number is for the fans.
@ E. Wolf – doesn’t matter if Favre gets booed or not. his number will be retired – and your petition will be for naught. the fat lady will sing!
It really amuses me that somehow you are far more invested emotionally in my petition than I ever was. Curious that what I write resonates with you so, whereas I really do not give two shits what you write or what you think, unless of course you happen to troll one of my comments, which seems to be the only way you have of getting my attention.
Have a nice day.
You serioulsy have a petition? HAHAHAHA! There is nothing like holding a grudge against someone who couldn’t pick you out of a line up of one…Fantastic use of time.
By the way, your articles suck… in fact they are a bigger waste of time than your Favre petition.
I love you too, schmookems.
You know how old this whole Favre argument is getting?
REALLY FUCKING OLD.
Too old to continue caring. Im too “invested” in aaron rodgers and the current packers team to continue caring about what favre did years ago. I didn’t like it at the time but now i do cuz it involved Favre getting out of rodgers way.
Kris! You damn well know, Favre doing EVERYTHING in his power to join the vikings had NOTHING to do with him getting out of AR’s way!
He tried to fuck you and me over by giving the fucking vikings a super bowl….
I don’t think we need Bert to tell us what real Packers fans would or wouldn’t do.
Favre just doesnt get it. What a moron. Mark Murphy obviously doesnt get it either or he would have hired somebody to teach this dumb shit the art of public opinion. They couldnt script a more asinine & divisive PR fuck up if they tried!!
Doesnt matter if you’re for or against #4 now…the fact is he split the fan base when he left & now he’s doing it on his return too. And he has the arrogance to do ALL the things he put the franchise & fan base through…and STILL, incredulously, think HE has the credibility to define what a real Packer fan is!! Anybody on the fence is giving him the finger right now.
The level of stupidity involved, given the objective of reconciliation & reunion….is just staggering. He couldnt bully TT & MM into taking him back in 07..and he’s not gonna bully me into accepting him back in 2014 either. Gunslinger? Please. Real gunslingers dont shoot themselves in the ass.
Brett is right. He gave a great 16 years and brought th ePackers out of a very long dry spell.
People get over it and remember the good
and just what is it that people should get over?
Only a vicious personal vendetta unprecedented in the entire history of sport, with the specific design and intention to give our most hated rival the hardware AND foil a super bowl winning regime in the McCarthy Rodgers era. Didn’t you listen to BRETTFAVRE? (always pronounced by the Favreists from John Madden on down as one word, BRETTFAVRE). It is no big deal. All he tried to do is destroy us. And, if remain cognizant of that fact, if you remain contemptuous of anything and everything Minnesota Vikings, you are not a real “Packer Backer.”
Mark my words. Brett Favre is not finished sticking it to the Packers. He goes back and forth because he’s unstable and has nothing but enablers surrounding him. He’s going to say or do something in another attempt to get in the last word. He’ll be forgiven by his sycophant hoard, but TRUE Packer fans will once again be offended.
Yes indeed. And I as, as the imminent visionary that I am, will be proven right once again. I love being right, and I love saying that I was right all along. It makes me want to sing and dance to the sound of music!
It’s not about you E. Wolf, it’s about the Packer Nation. Time to unite and kick NFL ass.
No, its not about FAVRE…..its about Packer Nation.
If you want to boo, then boo. If you don’t want to boo, then don’t boo. How’s that for splitting a fucking atom. Go Pack Go!
my sentiments exactly. Just because you want to boo doesn’t make you any less of a “real” Packers fan. And if you want to cheer, go ahead and help yourself. But don’t be ripping on the guy next to you who wants to boo BF’s butt the whole way back to Mississippi, or Minnesota, or where ever.
Egotistical? Yes, but he’s right. His 16 years with us stand on their own, and the Vikings went right back to sucking like they always will after his one good season with them. No harm, no foul.
Does intent matter to you? I think everyone would agree he would be banished for life had he succeeded. Is there anything that, if fully executed, would unforgiveable, whereas only attempted but just failed, would be forgiveable?
I have struggled to come up with a suitable analogy. Some include:
-someone tryng to kill my pet or dog
-Gordon Gekko’s nearly succesful bid for a hostile takeover of Blue Star airlines, selling off its assets and disenfranching its employees and patrons.
None of these analogies are perfect, but they illustrate that intent matters. This is a man who sincerely intended to make the Vikings Super Bowl champs and who did everything he could to sabotage the current regime at 1265 Lombardi. That he only just failed does not make his crimes any less serious, in my opinion.
I think some people just care about the Packers more than you do…
Its fine if you don’t care enough.
I respect the views on both sides of this. It’s a polarizing topic. His record speaks for itself. His choices were upsetting. He WILL have his number retired. There may likely even be a statue of him at LBF next to Vince and Curly. He was that important to the franchise. Not suggesting anyone back down from how they feel….just sayin….. Boo all you want. Won’t make a difference.
What I call the grim trigger brigade amongst us already is making a difference. It has deterred his return thus far. Oh and in case you failed to read between the lines, Berty basically called Murphy a liar. This in addition to him essentially slighting a remarkable gesture of largesse from those Packer fans looking to turn the other cheek (how many of those are ardent Favreists and were turncoats who were pulling for the Vikings is unclear to me).
And because his egosim demands absolute adoration, because he dares to suggest that anyone who refuses to turn the other cheek, he is once again creating sharp divides in Packerland. I guess that civil war in Packerland never really ended.
As far as a a statute of him next to Curly and Lombardi, no way. Alas, there may be a statute of him somewhere, but not there. Oh and if there ever is a statute of him, there damn well better be one of Bart Starr and, before all is said and done, of Aaron Rodgers.
“You Enjoy Myself,” is that aimed at me or Wolf? I believe the organization and the fans are better off trying to heal an old wound and move on united rather than divided.
Wolf, we ended up as Super Bowl champions and Favre made a fool of himself. We won. Let it go.
Please answer my question concerning intent. If someone fails in such wrongdoing, but only just, does that absolve him completely?
Definately at you Salazar. There is Honor in the name of the Green Bay Packers. There is no Honor in what Favre did, trying his hardest to give the vikings a Super Bowl, and in turn make out team look bad, not for himself, but in revenge against management. When who he is really hurting, is us the fans.
Some people just don’t see this, as they don’t live and breathe the Green Bay Packers.
God damn right. I salute you, and regret I am unable to have a beer with you and enjoy true community among Packer fans. Guys like you and me, we never traded on our colors, we never faltered. And we take such efforts to ruin our team as something above and beyond even a matter of life and death.
@ E Wolf – you stated to me “you are far more invested emotionally in my petition than I ever was.” now that’s funny. you went on and on ad nauseum about your petition you wanted to send the Packers about not retired Favre’s number. don’t kid yourself. it ain’t happening and you’re pissed. you also said, “i really do not give two shits what you write or what you think…”. and yet – you read and respond to my comments. don’t kid a kidder.
To the contrary, I only ever notice your comments when expressly directed at me.
Curious that none of you Favre apologists dare answer my question re intent. That’s because you can’t.
your question RE: intent is inane. as is you incessant obsession with hating Favre.