Part of the narrative of Super Bowl week has been that Peyton Manning isn’t among the greatest quarterbacks ever because he’s only won one Super Bowl. You know who can relate? Brett Favre.
Despite playing 20 years and holding all of the major career passing marks, Favre won just one Super Bowl, following the 1996 season when the Green Bay Packers beat the New England Patriots.
Manning’s only win was following the 2006 season when the Indianapolis Colts beat the Chicago Bears (the Rex Grossman-led Chicago Bears).
Both players are 1-1 in the big game.
While Manning has been in the best-ever conversation, you never hear Favre’s name, despite his accomplishments. You hear Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Johnny Unitas and John Elway (who lost three Super Bowls, by the way).
Favre seems to think it’s absurd that people are questioning Manning’s place in history.
“I kind of laugh at that really,” Favre told USA TODAY Sports. “I heard the same thing in my career.
“Statistically speaking, if you’re middle of the road and won a lot of Super Bowls, it does a lot for you. But not as much if you win (just) one (Super Bowl) and put up big numbers.”
Manning can cement his place among the all-time greats if he wins on Sunday. The question really goes beyond winning Super Bowls, though. At least up to this point.
As we like to point out, Manning has choked a lot of times in the playoffs. That’s something else Favre is probably familiar with.
Favre was 13-11 in the postseason. Manning is 11-11. If he loses on Sunday, he’d be the sole owner of the most playoff losses by a quarterback in NFL history.
So, as you can see, not exactly clutch when it really counts.
Of course, a second Super Bowl win will make everyone forget that. Just like they forget that Elway lost in his first three tries. He only won when he had Terrell Davis.
John Elway is the most-overrated QB in NFL history-the original Eli Manning, only he could run.
Tell me in what way, shape or form John Elway is “overrated.”
Yeah, he’s overrated just like Barry Sanders, Walter Payton and Reggie White are.
Your inclusion of Elway in that Pantheon of football players is the basis for my reasoning. Elway is HoF-worthy to be sure, but he is NOT one of the best to ever play the game let alone history.
A major reason Elway is so revered is that he had back-to-back SB wins towards the very end of his career-he left the best final impression possible. People like to give QBs the majority of the credit for a SB win (and vice versa), but the fact is Elway had lost 3 SBs already and he needed Terrell Davis, Rod Smith, Shannon Sharpe, Ed McCaffrey, and one of the best D’s of thar era to get his rings.
Look at his career stats, they weren’t that good, even for his era-he had five years of good-great production.
I can name at least 15 QBs off the top of my head who are (arguably) better than Elway: Montana, Johnny U, Brady, Starr, P. Manning, Rodgers, Otto Graham, Favre, Marino, Young, Aikman, Bradshaw, Brees, Warner, Tarkenton, Baugh, Nameth, Herber, Staubach, heck, even Jim Kelly.
The point being I can’t name 15 players from any position let alone one, who were even arguably better than Sweetness, Rice, Barry, Brown, the Minister, the Deacon, Montana, Johnny U, Costanzo, and the like.
Elway deserves his HoF status, but he doesn’t belong in the top tier, nor even the second, for my money. THAT is why he is the most-overrated QB of all time (Tebow, in just 2 years, sure gave him a good run though).
That is not the only reason Berty’s legacy should be questioned.
QBs don’t win games. Football teams do. Especially once you get to the postseason or most of all the Super Bowl. Your opponent is too damn good for one guy to beat them by himself.
The whole winning games or winning playoff games thing as an argument for a QB is one of the biggest BS arguments out there.
Same as we’ve seen with Aaron Rodgers, great QBs make their teams look better than they are. But you get to the playoffs and defenses figure out ways to slow your franchise player down, and the rest of the team isn’t good enough to win.
The one year that Rodgers, Favre, and Manning had a defense, they won the Super Bowl.
If you want to criticize Brett or Peyton for their individual numbers being down or for big mistakes they made in the playoffs, then fine, but suggesting they aren’t top all time QBs because they have one Super Bowl is idiotic. I would take either or Dan Marino over Troy Aikman or Terry Bradshaw in a heartbeat.
The problem is both Manning and that other gut have thrown away playoff games, literally.
I would HATE to see what Marino would do to defenses nowadays with the rule changes handcuffing defensive backs. Keep in mind this man threw for 48 tds and 5000 yards in 1984. And he had 44 tds the following year. If he was on the bears or 49ers in that era, those teams would have won 6 super bowls.
Favre threw picks that literally gave post season games away… Many times it wasn’t just once or twice it was over and over again on the back half of his career.
Once owner of a 4-1 record and 112.6 passer rating in the postseason, Rodgers has now lost three of his past four playoff starts, including two at Lambeau Field. The first loss, against the New York Giants, followed a 15-1 season in 2011 and the second, against the 49ers, followed an 8-7-1 campaign.
Let’s restock the cupboard and get this guy the help he needs.
Rodgers was also the packers leading rusher in that playoff game against the Giants.
how’s that petition comin’ along, e. wolf..?
Great. It remains a well-written, well-thought out effort to stop truly shameful pandering to someone who stabbed us in the back and did everything he could to foil the Rodgers MCarthy era and give our most hated rival the hardware. No regrets.
@e wolf – eh….you tried. we all need to fail to appreciate the victories in life.