We’ve been harping on this since the season ended. The Green Bay Packers badly need an upgrade at the safety position.
Not that we thought they didn’t notice, but we now have confirmation that the Packers will be looking at safeties in the draft.
ESPN Radio’s Charlie Bernstein is at the East-West Shrine Game, which is one of the college football All-Star games, and gives us this.
— Charlie Bernstein (@nflcharlie) January 13, 2014
Unfortunately, only seniors get to play in the Shrine Game, so the majority of the top safety prospects aren’t in the game.
The biggest name safety who is playing is North Carolina’s Tre Boston, who had 94 tackles and five picks as a senior. As of now, he looks like a second or third-round pick.
The game will be played this Saturday.
One of Ted’s many MO’s is that he neglects a position until it bites him in the ass (back up qb ). Don’t be surprised if he either takes two in the draft or goes after a FA and drafts another.
After all if your looking to upgrade the S position you may need two.
They need Deone Buchannon from Washington state. That dude is a beast. If you want to see what I’m talking about out on his game film against The Second best team in the country Auburn. He is a playmaker
Drafting someone is a 2-3y project at BEST! They need someone who can make an impact in 2014.
Yes, Dick Head (so clever), Lacy, Hayward, Matthews, Bulaga, Cobb, etc. have been major projects, it’s a damn shame they couldn’t contribute immediately.
Agree with that summation, but if you look at the recent trend on the defensive picks, the rationale for bringing in a FA at safety as well as high draft choice makes the best sense.
Yeah, Eric Reid and Kenny Vacarro had no impact. Maybe they’ll do something good in a couple years.
And Adrian Peterson, Russell Wilson, JJ Watt, and Richard Sherman-all garbage picks who contributed jack squat in their first years.
The bigger question you should be asking is, why didn’t we move up to take a safety like Vacarro or Reid? Well, we got Datone! He’s the better ‘project’ um I mean to say, ‘prospect’.
Do you enjoy having Eddie Lacy on the team? How about Jonathan Franklin, David Bakhtiari, or even Micah Hyde? Well, if we had Eric Reid (or even Vaccaro for that matter), then we likely wouldn’t have Datone Jones and Eddie Lacy, or Jones and some combination of 2 of the others.
TT gambled on McMillain and the Doctor and lost, it sucks but every now and then (sh)it happens. This years safety class may appear to be missing elite talent but may overall be pretty good (a handful of these safeties likely have equal or close to equal amounts of talent as Reid, but will cost a lot less) that’s actually a good thing for the Pack seeing as they
don’t usually get to draft in the area of the elites.
I’m telling you Buchannon is ahead of the curve
Ok you got me with all the impact safeties you listed…
Jesus Christ ilterion are you in Teds draft room Kenny Vaccaro? 1 pick and 1 sack?! Whew!!! While that is more impactful than that pos Burnett TT have a boat load of $ too…I wouldn’t exactly call that blowing the doors off the back end of a defense.
Are we moving up in the draft?! JJ watt, Adrian Peterson? Richard Sherman the drug addicted PED popper? Do they play safety? Are we getting a top 15 pick? Does Bulaga (which is a stretch to say the least as a hit pick) Cobb Matthews Hayward or Ed fucking lacy play safety?! Ok I see where you TT cockgager guys are going… In Ted we slurp!
Fatzeus (clever) learn to fucking read! Hey I’m not a TT hater.. We will just have to wait and see. The Packers are close yes… But other than Shields and JJ (and that’s a desire more than need) who is worth resigning? Time for Ted to open the wallet… Just a little.
Hey, thanks Glansyboy! I thought it was mildly so. I can read btw, pretty sure you meant comprehend, and I did that just fine (fun fact: I managed a 35 on my ACT in that category after a night of shroomin’ and 2 hours of sleep)-the implication being that draft prospects contribute minimally in their first and even 2nd years. Surely free agents who are accustomed to different systems and/or different teammates and even climates don’t take time to adjust to those factors because football players are nothing more than androids built solely for our entertainment (perhaps like your dream girl? ;]).
Let’s see, EDS is certainly worth resigning, Starks, Quarless, Johnny Jolly, Flynn, and even Kuhn, Lattimore, and perhaps Neal and Francois; might want to look into extending Jordy and Cobb as well. Then we also have to sign those draft
“projects” as well. In all reality, JJ is, unfortunately, one of the lesser free agents in terms of relative value to this team.
God you are smart.. You even tell us so! Fun fact: Doing just fine in dream girl dept…(didn’t you learn in school that hot chicks love dick heads?;)) most likely a lot better than some smart drug addict. But hey- tough to see what you’re working with through the walls of the net.
Ok comprehend this… The article was on safeties. Drafted safeties take awhile to develop. That’s a fact…. Esp so on already porous defenses. And since he’s hit on so many defenders lately let’s just wait and see how he does drafting 7 more defensive players… Hey one of them is sure to hit soon right?! I get it..you don’t need to sign Byrd for 7m/ but anything…ANYTHING… is better than that shit they put back there now!!
And yes- will the handful of 1.5m/ and under guys you so artfully described get signed?? Some will but at the Packers price. Depends on who TT drafts. The big $ ones are obviously JJ(who I do agree will most likely be gone for obvious reasons $/position depth) and Shields who will also be gone for the same reasons in all likelihood. Who would you rather have Shields or Byrd teamed with Hyde/Burnett?
Nope just told you I was highly capable in the requisite area, made no statement about my other faculties.
Not a drug addict either, just a youngster who wanted to wanted to experience and learn about the world in as many ways as possible. Taken in moderation psilocybin’s less
damaging/dangerous than alcohol, prescription drugs, and even over-the-counters such as the liver-killer acetaminophen. In (fun) fact psilocybin (as well as cannabis sativa and lysergic acid diethylamide) very well may be used in the future as medication in the treatment of psychological
Hugh Hefner’s a druggie, so is virtually every legitimate rock star who ever lived (and a number of them are pretty smart), they seem to be dealing with more trim than a Humboldt County farmer. Classy women tend not to like the douches (they don’t need ‘en cause they ain’t dirty), but hey if you like the fast-food, bathe-in-makeup-and-hair-dye, throw-a-Lil’-Smokey-down-a-hallway, by all means continue your personification of a German battle helmet. Glad to hear you have your pre-fabbed dream girl locked down, it’s good to have friends in low places (if ya catch my drift ;]) ain’t it Garth?
Now, if you managed to stay with us, tge relevant matter:
Troy Polamalu, Ed Reed, Nick Collins, Darren Sharper, Le-wah Butler, Adrian Wilson, every safety Iltarion listed above, all contributed significantly or even exceptionally in their first years.
It’s a shame a re-signing value over an arbitrary amount
such as $1.5M isn’t a legitimate metric for value to a team. That said EDS will certainly garner more than that, likely as will Flynn, Starks, and perhaps Jolly, Quarless, Neal, and Lattimore.
You can add Jonathan Cyprien to that list as well, and arguably Matt Elam.
35 on ACT? I am so impressed.
Deone Bucannon or Calvin “Fucking” Pryor. Look at their tapes. Two excellent players in each their own way.
And yes, you need to sign a vet back there just in case. And a good vet or two on the D Line would be nice too. Not too pricey but smart.
Fatgus you lost me in your psychobabble about 3 sentences in… You appear to have a love for the thesaurus almost as much as eWolfe. Are you him is fatguses clothing? Keep on slurpin bra… You do it so well!
No worries, Richie m’boy, that third one’s a real doozy, what with it’s big words such as “moderation” and “prescription” and “dangerous”.
In short, here’s a partial list of safeties who destroy your assertion about as well as a dog does a pair of slippers:
Brian Dawkins, Steve Atwater, Leroy Butler, Ed Reed, Darren Sharper, Adrian Wilson, Nick Collins, Troy Polamalu, Kenny Vaccaro, Eric Reid, Jonathan Cyprien, and even Matt Elam.
I get that you have no logical rebuttal, but a word of advice: Try to avoid ad hominem attacks, they make one appear desperate, small, and sophomoric.
Tre looks like Al Harris…sign from God? lol
Kenny Vaccaro = stud .. Just what they need on the back end 1 pick 1 sack.. Good call know everything. Yes….all of those guys had great numbers year one and year two. Spend sometime looking them up.. Make a chart or bar graph for us. I’ll do one for you Sharper 2 picks in year one, no sacks, 1 ff, 12 tackles (or 5 less than bj raji if you can’t add)… 0 of all in year two. Argue to argue to show how big yours is…that’s sophomoric fuckface!
I see some big impact safeties above & I’m just happy that no one mentioned (that I noticed but then again, I didn’t read all the posts) Rod Woodson, Brian Dawkins, John Lynch, Rodney Harrison, Larry Wilson, Jack Tatum, Leroy Butler, Darren Woodson, Bob Sanders! It’s common knowledge these scrubs were 2-3yrs projects at BEST! We need people who can do it now!
You are correct it’s ok to be wrong… Bob sanders had one pick in his first two seasons.. Butler played corner.. Until season 3 when he played ss and had one pick. Darren Woodson 0 picks, one sack first two seasons. Lynchmob had 0 picks, 0 sacks first two years. You did hit one with jack Tatum who had 8 picks in the first two years but the only problem is his first two seasons were over 4 decades ago, not really relevant to today’s game. Larry Wilson debuted in ’60. I couldn’t find Red Granges interception totals but I’ll throw him out there too for ya. Dawk 6 picks first two years.. Nice hit there. I could continue looking up stats, which is enjoyable because it further proves my point but I’ve got to get on with my life. I also know TT had a hand in drafting all those guys too. That makes it even more likely he will get someone next year to bail those turds out. Maybe .. MAYBE Hyde will be one of these types of guys in year two. But carry on, deflect and detract, just like the boys in Washington.
Do you watch much football? Or just watch the Packers? Hey my kid does the same thing, he goes to that shitty NFL.com, gets stats & thinks that tells the whole story! I was hesitant to mention Ronnie Lott, as he too started at CB but that would detract from your main point of contention, he (& all the aforementioned by all the above posters & myself) had initial impact. I’ve been watching football for many years & all the above (& aforementioned players throughout this blog that really did not need mentioning again) did have impact (regardless of stats, they locked their positions down) & the thinly veiled attempt to discredit one or two points of contention & emphasize “40 years ago & Red Grange” in further attempt to minimize based upon the abstract concept of time (like thats relevant for those “time” guys could easily play in the modern era) in hope that it will somehow discredit the whole argument & validate you (kinda like those Washington guys you make mention of). Now I understand you wanna be right & prefer that to promoting greater understanding between us Packer fans (for many, ego validation trumps all & you do seem proud of the “dickhead” moniker but hey, negative attention is better than no attention), so without further ado, let me be the one here, the first (besides you), to say: YOU WERE RIGHT!!!
You are welcome!
Feels good doesn’t it dick? Now, to real matters, do you believe your own bullshit or do you expect us to buy it so you can say you’re right (which you are clearly not) but you see that now so no need to rub it in. What is your suggestion governing the safety position(s)?
Address it…. It’s clear by the severe lack of playmaking in 2013 that this is the weakest point on the team. Having guys up front that make plays helps immensely, as everyone here already knows as well. This is will be the offseason that defines TT’s tenure in GB IMO. We will all just have to wait and see.
If I was armchair gm moving Hyde makes the most sense… As Phatgzus has mentioned brining in overpriced talent isn’t always a solution.. I do understand that.
I am grateful the packers are always in contention…. But am frustrated by the severe lack of attention to the non packer veteran free agents. Maybe 98% of them don’t make sense. TT should be able to find the 2% that do without sacrificing the future of the franchise. The 4 that are left have…