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The Green Bay Packers dropped a 27-13 decision to the Philadelphia Eagles at home on Sunday. Pathetic and embarrassing are a couple of words that come to mind about the game.

But a lot of other things come to mind as well, so let’s get to it.

What happened to the front seven?
I don’t really know where to put the blame here, but the Packers were stuffing the run earlier this season. They’ve now allowed 100-yard rushers in consecutive games. On Sunday, the gave up 155 to LeSean McCoy. He averaged 6.2 per carry. A week earlier, they gave up 125 to Matt Forte. He averaged 5.2 per carry. The Packers defensive line isn’t getting it done anymore. Neither are the linebackers. Tackling is an issue. Not to mention they can’t get off the field in the fourth quarter. What’s the solution here? Unfortunately, I couldn’t tell you.

We’ve got three bright spots.
You probably expected this whole thing to be negative, but there were some positive developments that should be pointed out. First, Jarrett Boykin continues to be a baller. Eight catches for 112 yards on Sunday. That’s his second 100-yard game of the season and who thought Jarrett Boykin was going to have two 100-yard games this year? Second, Datone Jones is finally doing what a first-round pick is supposed to do. He’s wreaking havoc. Jones has been invisible for most of the season. On Sunday, he notched two sacks. That gives him three in his past two games. Welcome to the party, bro. Third, we should welcome Brandon Bostick, too. Three catches for 42 yards and touchdown on Sunday. Bostick can stretch the field better than Andrew Quarless. We expect to see more of him going forward.

Welcome back, old Mason Crosby.
Boy, was Mason Crosby tearing it up this season. Until Sunday, that is. Crosby missed two of his four field goal tries, which probably reminded you of the Mason Crosby of last season. You know, the one who only hit 60-some percent of his kicks. Not that it matters, but if Crosby made both of those tried he missed, the score is 27-19. A one-score affair. That changes the whole complexion of the game.

The Packers will need to throw to run.
Yeah, we’re stating the obvious here, but you saw how teams are going to play the Packers without Aaron Rodgers under center. They’re going to stack eight in the box in order to stuff Eddie Lacy and James Starks. Lacy ran well enough on Sunday, gaining 73 yards, but he averaged just 3 per carry. Starks got even less room to run. Four carries, five yards. Scott Tolzien is going to have to whip it around and makes some big plays in the passing game in order to open up the running game. The good news is he should have plenty of opportunities against single coverage to do so. He needs to take advantage of those.

We said it yesterday, but feel the need to say it again.
The Packers secondary is awful. I don’t even know where the weak link is anymore. They’re all weak. Can’t tackle. Can’t create turnovers. The Packers didn’t even have a pass defended on Sunday. Oh, and let’s not forget the two Philly TD drives that lasted less than a minute. The one time a DB got their hands on a ball, it was like a scene from Keystone Cops. Tramon Williams and Morgan Burnett converge on a sure interception and instead run into each other and knock the ball up in the air for a DeSean Jackson touchdown. The Packers defensive backs have a total of two interceptions on the year. A total of 24 individuals have more interceptions than the Packers secondary has combined this season. That’s pathetic. Again, I don’t have an answer here.

Oh, and here’s a bonus. Mike Carey. Worst official in the NFL. So many shitty calls on Sunday. Both ways, although there were probably more against the Packers. Can someone explain to me how this guy has a job at the NFL level?

Monty McMahon

Monty McMahon is one of the founders of Total Packers. He is probably the most famous graduate of UW-Oshkosh next to Jim Gantner.



  1. Rodgers November 11, 2013

    Monty, normally I carry the same line of thinking as you, but I have to disagree with you on the Crosby bashing.

    He’s been nothing short of stellar this year, and the two field goals he missed were off by a couple feet from long range distances with lots of wind.

    Bad D, bad refs, and an unprepared green quarterback making his first NFL appearance contributed to this embarrassment.

    1. PF4L November 11, 2013

      1st of all…knock off the whining about the refs, leave that for bear fans….2ndly..Scott Tolzien did a hell of a job in his 1st NFL game. 280 yards? Hardly embarrassing for a QB in his 1st NFL game with barely any reps.

      1. Rodgers November 11, 2013

        First of all, learn to read. I didn’t call Tolzien an embarrassment, I said he contributed to one (the game itself).

        I agree with you that the kid did great, but that doesn’t negate the fact that he wasn’t getting first team reps all week, and this is a precision league that requires QBs and WRs to know each other. It seems to me you’re only backing up my point.

        Furthermore, I’ll bitch all I want about the refs if it is warranted. I’m not saying they cost us the game, but they did a shit job and need to be held accountable.

        1. PF4L November 11, 2013

          Fine. Cry about the refs. knock yourself out if it makes you feel better. Team play decides outcome of games, not refs. And if the game is so close, that a ref can dictate the game in the final minute, the “team” put themselves in that position. Refs are human, they will NEVER ever always get it right. The refs have a tough job. But overall, a bad call here, bad call there. At the end of the day it all evens itself out and becomes a wash

          1. Phatgzus November 12, 2013

            Dude, he explicitly stated that they didn’t cost the Packers the game. I agree that we need to avoid becoming the sports fans who whine about the refs constantly (like certain Seahawks fans) and that the refs are not the second coming; however, that last game was an absolute abomination. Mike Carey’s crew has been the worst in the league, not only this year, but last year as well.
            Much as organizations are obligated to their supporters (owners, fans, etc.) to provide the best team possible, the NFL is also indebted to it’s supporters to provide the best referee crews possible, it is part of the maintainenance of the “Sanctity of the Game”. Lord knows the NFL makes enough money off of the fans and players to identify and hire the viable replacements, but they’re too avaricious and now it’s likely that there’s a clause in their agreement that negates or impedes this process.

  2. PF4L November 11, 2013

    “What happened to the front seven?”
    “I don’t really know where to put the blame here, but the Packers were stuffing the run earlier this season.” ———–This is why, just because the Packers runners rushed for over 100 yards a few games, does NOT automatically make the Packers a great running team all of a sudden, you have to do it over time. Same goes for stopping the run. No one has talked about this…E lacy ran 24 times for 74 yards. A 3.1 average. LeSean McCoy ran against us 25 times for 155 yards, a 6.2 average. With that said, we’ve done a fairly good job stopping the run, maybe at the expense of the pass defense. As long as we don’t give up 200 yards/game to AP, i’m good. :) That was fucking embarrassing.

  3. valpoPackers November 11, 2013

    Mike Neal was Walden all over again. Horrible edge containment which allowed Eagles to run for 10 yards a carry. Couldn’t get to the QB either. Probably his worst game of the year. I’m not sure how the Packers are going to solve their lack of QB pressure issues. Those are where turnovers are created. Clay obviously was ineffective with the club and Perry did not look 100%. Palmer is basically a traffic cone sitting out there.

  4. Andy November 11, 2013

    I’m bummed about this one as i think 9 times out of 10 Jones and Jordy come down with the balls in the end zone, and we really needed a couple of those types of play to go our way.

    Also the tramon return for a TD is typical of our luck, the defence finally does something like that, and it doesn’t count. I’m not moaning at the refs there, its a bang bang play you cant always see those, but on another day the ref doesnt call it down and we get 7 closer.

  5. CA November 11, 2013

    Why the fuck does Brad Jones continue to play?

  6. Phatgzus November 11, 2013

    Packers were in the Nickel (2-4-5) for a large portion of the day, hence the shitty run D (the scheme combined with our personnel), Capers would have either had to trot out them base for most of the game and hope they could force some short drives or roll with the Nickel and hope for a bend-not-break performance. Obviously the rubber band snapped.

    No pressure on the QB makes it very difficult on the backfield, they still need to take advantage of opportunities when they arise and tackle, nit grab, grab, grab.

    Hopefully Hayward’s play is attributable to rustiness/lack of health and not a benchmark of his ability. As for Shields, he’s reverted to 2011 form over the past 2 games, hopefully he corrects course and assuages the doubt that’s beginning to insinuate itself in Pack Nation. Makes you a little relieved TT didn’t sign him to a huge contract (looks like he learned from the Tramon experience).

    1. PF4L November 11, 2013

      The Packers are in nickel about 77% of the time in each of the last 3 seasons. I know this, other teams knows this. Capers can’t innovate. I’ll help him pack his bags.

      1. rebelgb November 12, 2013

        “The Packers are in nickel about 77% of the time in each of the last 3 seasons. I know this, other teams knows this. Capers can’t innovate. I’ll help him pack his bags.” – PF4L


      2. Phatgzus November 12, 2013

        They use it a lot, no doubt, but different variations of:3-3-5, 2-4-5, Elephant, Psycho. Capers also generally uses it when he believes the opposition will pass; yes, he does also use it vs. the run, but not nearly to the extent that he did vs. the Eagles, when he was essentially forced to use it because of their no-huddle offense. That was my point.

        Furthermore: players not plays, it’s an aphorism, cliched, perhaps, but no less true; younalmost never hear (respectable) players blame their coaches, not only because it’s poor decorum, but because they know this simple fact.

        1. Phatgzus November 12, 2013

          Pardon me, *you almost, and gaffe*, I would be a bit disconcerted if Teddy had an arsenal of spears.

          1. PF4L November 12, 2013


          2. Phatgzus November 12, 2013


            Ah, cd, chill out cub scout, Amendment Number One, ya heard?

            BTW, it’s:



            Hope that helps :).


          3. Phatgzus November 12, 2013


            Too many periods in your elipsis, anymore than 3 is redundant, oh yee great balshy droog.

          4. Phatgzus November 12, 2013


            Use a comma when addressing people, not an elipsis.

            You’re welcome.

  7. SA packerfan November 11, 2013

    D is the major problem. No offense with backup QBs can be expected to win with having to score greater than 30 points in limited time. I am not even sure with ARod we can do that. Time for Capers to go and shake up the D. Nothing to lose at this point.

  8. organicbuzz November 11, 2013

    We need Lovie as D coach. D is consistently shitty for a couple seasons maybe 3 under Dom.

    1. PF4L November 11, 2013

      I wouldn’t be adverse to Kevin Greene being named Def. Coordinator.

  9. SoTxPhil November 11, 2013

    I agree, WHY is Brad jones starting??? Lattimore makes plays all over the field, usually in the other teams backfield. Jones is seen standing around 10-15 yds downfield as someone else finally makes a tackle. They finally pulled him yesterday, but the game was long over with. Our backs may have made more yardage if our lineman were allowed to hold on the edge like the Eagles were without any holding penalties.

  10. the real jeff ircink November 11, 2013

    can’t figure out why this blog/commenters bitch when people complain about the refs (other teams, other games), but when the shoe’s on the other foot, “LOOK OUT!”. funny.

  11. rebelgb November 12, 2013

    Look drones, that ref crew is the worst in the NFL, bar none. They couldnt even remember who the penalty was on half the time.

    Criticism was warranted. Im sure the only reason they are still around as a crew is because half of them are black (Equal Opportunity strikes again).

  12. PF4L November 12, 2013

    Sounds good. When’s the next Klan meeting?

  13. cd4packers November 13, 2013

    Listen Phagtzus, I have no idea who you are and why you are addressing me when I haven’t even posted in here. Lmao. Go get help grammar mammy…you need it. And if I want to type ……..all day long I will. :p

    1. Phatgzus November 13, 2013

      Is that your expert opinion? …? ….? …..?’ ………………………?
      I get it, those elipses are EEGs of your brain, aren’t they? …………………………………………………………………………………….?

      Don’t hurt yourself, cd4L, take a breath….now take another……………………..now one more, for posterity………….all better…..?

      1. cd4packers November 14, 2013

        STFU dude. Wowzers! I am not PF4L you idiot. You are obviously one of those jerks from SKA. I see you are still into attacking other users. Bad boy, no cookie for you. ::P