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Packers Still Blathering About Retiring Brett Favre’s Number

Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers at the NFL Honors

The Green Bay Packers will be retiring Brett Favre‘s No. 4 in some sort of feel-good, all-is-forgiven ceremony at Lambeau Field, but much like when someone dredged this up last year, the Packers still haven’t made a commitment to when that will be.

At this time last year the line was, sometime, but not during the 2012 season. Now, the line is, sometime, but probably not this season. Packers president Mark Murphy said the organization hasn’t had contact with Favre since the Super Bowl.

During Super Bowl week, Favre made an appearance with Aaron Rodgers at the NFL Honors. They presented the Comeback Player of the Year award to Peyton Manning. From the sound of it, the Packers had something to do with that.

Frankly, we wouldn’t doubt it. From our dealings with the Packers organization, we know they like to micro-manage the shit out of everything. I once sent a proposal to their website editor. It had to be presented to Murphy for approval.


Anyway, it seems clear the Packers stuck their nose pretty far into that joint appearance and it wasn’t just something Rodgers and Favre did just because they were asked. It was a stupid, calculated public relations move.

“I thought that was great,” Murphy said. “It was kind of a good first step, and our intent all along is we want to bring him back into the family and retire his number. He deserves it.”

So now the Packers have gotten Favre and Rodgers together and everyone had a laugh. Good job!

Next, the Packers will need to sit down with Favre and work out a date for the ceremony. Who knows when that will happen, but you’ll surely get treated to more contrived moments to make you forget what a debacle this all was along the way.

Monty McMahon

Monty McMahon is one of the founders of Total Packers. He is probably the most famous graduate of UW-Oshkosh next to Jim Gantner.



  1. Rkom March 19, 2013

    Murphy should have said ” i thought it was a good contrived first step. Our next step will be equally contrived and hopefully this Favre BS will all be over with someday…. Albiet when that day comes… It too will be contrived and superficial…

  2. Savage57 March 19, 2013

    I know I only speak for one side of the aisle on this one, but hasn’t it kind of reached the “who gives a shit” point by now?

    1. Phatgzus March 20, 2013

      Yeah, years ago when ESPN wouldn’t STFU about it.

  3. E. Wolf March 19, 2013

    I am against any reconcilation with him who cannot be named, also known as Berty Judas, Brettedict Favreold, Baron von Dongschotz. Berty played for the Vikings, and thus FOREVER betrayed the Pack! People forget how perilously close he was to leading the hated Vikings to the Super Bowl. Had they done that, they probably would have won. That would have created an environment so toxic, that 2010 would be not possible.
    Detractors will point out what “he did for Green Bay.” It is precisely because of his importance in Packers history that such crimes are so heinous, and so completely beyond even the suggestion of forgiveness or reconciliation. No figure who came to personify a franchise had ever played for a hated rival for the express purpose of foiling his prior team in such a manner. Of course, such sentiments overstate the importance of Number Four in the renaissance of the Packers, downplaying the role of Bob Harlan, Ron Wolf, Reggie White, and above all Mike Holmgren, without whom the quarterback may have never risen out of obscurity in the first place.
    People forget all this. People also forget the toxic, poisonous environment that man created for Thompson, McCarthy and even Rodgers, plunging the entire organization in a dysfunctional environment of chaos. People overlook the sort of brass balls it required for Thompson and McCarthy to stare into NFL immortality, with the cold, steely eyes of an assassin, and say “No,” and to then brave the firestorm of controversy that ensued. Of course, it then required Rodgers to put forth an unparalled, superhuman effort, culminating in a Super Bowl Victory, an MVP award, and all around the greatest career stats ever enjoyed by a quarterback to nullify this toxic environment that this man created. And in spite of it all, some turncoats and malcontents still express dissension in our midst even today. Very simply put, Berty Judas instigated an all-out Civil War in Packerland that still wages on in some pockets of resistance.
    For this, he must NEVER be forgiven. The old guard among us must organize to petition the Packers organziation for this hardline stance. Admit him to the Packers hall of fame–but do not retire his number, and above all do not admit him to the Ring of Honor. NO QUARTER MUST BE GIVEN FOR TRAITORS!

    1. DevilDon March 19, 2013

      You forgot Fredo Farte. Traitor to his family.
      Fuck all you who say what he did for the Pack, think of what the Pack did for him. Who here believes he would have ever seen his potential on Glanville’s bench?

  4. Nick Perry March 19, 2013

    Screw Brett Farve. With this talking to Jennings stuff I finally have many others and say screw him. It’s one thing to want to stick it to Ted when still playing. It’s something all together to keep screwing the team and fans years later.

  5. FITZCORE1252 March 19, 2013

    What Wolf said…

    GBP 4 LIFE

  6. Carl with a "C" March 19, 2013

    Craig who? Bring back Brett

  7. Rkom March 19, 2013

    Just a refresher for Favre lovers:
    Remember when Favre was asked on ESPN what he felt about Pack and Rodgers winning super bowl?
    He smugly said he was surprised it took Rodgers that long to win super bowl. (3rd year) Favre said he could have won super bowl too that year because they finally had some talent around the QB.

    1. PackAttack March 19, 2013

      What Rkom said. It’s one thing to be an icon and legend for the team you played for but this guy just doesn’t care about GB, Packer Nation or the fans. He’s a prick. Saying that stuff about Rodgers (what Rkom posted above), he advised Jennings on his move to MN, you know he’s secretly spanking himself to the fact that Rodgers is on pace to be better than he ever was and break half his records (excluding the interceptions).

      This guy wanted to leave GB, he wanted to play for MN, and that’s fine and all, you didn’t win a Super Bowl and your last season was nothing short of an embarrassment, but why not retire there with them and Jennings? Let them retire your number. That’s the team you wanted to retire with afterall.

      Maybe those two can hang out at that nice stadium at the Metrodome or that college football stadium the queens get to play at for the next few years and share dick-texting stories.

      One guy was jealous of Rodgers so he jumped over to MN and watched the Pack win it all in 2010. Jennings was jealous of Cobb so he jumps over to MN where he gets to play with Ponder. The same guy who skipped the playoffs cause his arm hurt. Jesus — and we should retire their numbers???

    2. Phatgzus March 20, 2013

      “Favre said he could have won super [the] bowl too that year”.

      1. He did not say that, he did say the team the year before was the most talented (all-around) he’d ever been on; you are inferring what you wish from that statement. Personally, I understood that as honest opine of that team.

      2. Nice sentence.

  8. the real russ letlow March 20, 2013

    I don’t think Bert has time for any hoopla in Green Bay. He is too busy in his job as PR man and recruiter for the queens. What a tool. Forget that bum and lets celebrate the QB we have right now!

  9. Savage57 March 20, 2013

    The early results are in. The first 10 posters make it unanimous.

    No soup for you!

  10. Abe Frohman March 20, 2013

    I “retired” Favre’s number when I burned it. You mean there’s more to it than that? Who knew?

    I was at the NFCCG against NYG when Favre choked away the superbowl AGAIN with an interception. He clearly did not want to be there in the cold. When his biography comes out years from now, I bet he’ll say that game was a turning point for him. He knew he had a few good years left, but he just couldn’t do it in the cold any more. So, as far as I’m concerned, that began this whole slow ride into purple hell.

    I don’t necessarily blame him for wanting to play more. He retired and we didn’t want him any longer because we had another HOF’er in the wings behind him. I DO blame him for the way he conducted himself during it all, and afterwards. The retirements were all contrived to get him to Minnesota and a dome. Still think Darrell Bevell had nothing to do with it? He’s proven himself to be of very little character. The latest contact with the Vikings re. Jennings proves exactly where his loyalties lay (could also say ‘lie’ here).

    1. E. Wolf March 20, 2013

      I don’t necessarily blame him for wanting to play more. He retired and we didn’t want him any longer because we had another HOF’er in the wings behind him. I DO blame him for the way he conducted himself during it all, and afterwards. The retirements were all contrived to get him to Minnesota and a dome. Still think Darrell Bevell had nothing to do with it? He’s proven himself to be of very little character. The latest contact with the Vikings re. Jennings proves exactly where his loyalties lay (could also say ‘lie’ here).


  11. icebowl March 20, 2013

    Hell will freeze over before we retire the number of a jerk with a track record of doing everything possible to Fuck this organization….

    “Part of me coming back last year, I have to admit now, was sticking it to Ted”

    Provided tips on how to beat Packers in phone conversation with then-Lions president Matt Millen.

    Exhorted Bears defensive end Julius Peppers to “go beat the Packers in a couple of weeks” after the Vikings suffered a defeat to the Bears late in the 2010 season.

    1. Phatgzus March 20, 2013

      Get your Parka ready, it’s gonna be a cold eternity for you after you pass.

  12. E. Wolf March 20, 2013

    I love the hatred and vitriol here. It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside. It shows us Packer fans are not all chocolate and sunshine.

  13. E. Wolf March 20, 2013

    “To the last, I will grapple with thee… from Hell’s heart, I stab at thee! For hate’s sake, I spit my last breath at thee!”

  14. Tucson Packer March 20, 2013

    Is there still that “petition” to never allow him or his number or anything related to Bert to touch hallowed Lambeau grounds being drafted? If anybody ever hears more about that, I think a few people here would like to know. I hate that person. With a sincere passion.

    1. E. Wolf March 20, 2013

      No petition as far as I know but I have been mulling the idea of starting one. Perhaps we could call ourselves the “grim-trigger brigade.” Grim-trigger is shorthand for a no forgiveness policy in gaming theory.

  15. What is a frush? March 20, 2013

    Would be awesome if they drafted a back up QB who demanded to be #4 and had to activate the number again…

    1. Abe Frohman March 20, 2013

      We should give it to Crosby – he sucks, too.

  16. Levi March 20, 2013

    If the Packers could forgive Lambeau enough to name the stadium after him, Favre definitely deserves his number retired.

    1. Shawn March 20, 2013

      Hey, great point.

  17. icebowl March 21, 2013

    Good stuff….
    Bring on the petition….
    Don’t we stockholders have any say in this

    “He is intelligent, but not experienced. His pattern indicates two-dimensional thinking.”

  18. Doug March 21, 2013

    I don’t get it. What was it Brett Favre did that was so bad. Players do it every damn year, its part of the business. he landed a job as the starting quarterback on another team because the Packers no longer had any use for his services. He wanted to play football, is that so bad? What was he supposed to do, just quit and be happy about it when his heart was on the field? Vince Lombardi went to another team and nobody has complained. Forrest Gregg and Herb Adderlety both went to Dallas and the Cowboys were always a hated opponent and nobody complains about that. James Lofton played for two other teams after the Packers, and there are a lot more.

    After Vince Lombardi left we had Jerry Tagge, Scott Hunter, John Hadl, Vince Ferragamo Jim Zorn, Lynn Dickey, David Whitehurst, Steve Bono, Jack Concannon, Chuck Fusina, Mike Tomczak, Matt Hasslebeck, Don Majkowski, Mark Brunell, Ty Detmer, Jim McMahon and out of all of those quarterbacks we had 1 good year and a couple of not too bads but not one championship.

    That all cgahnged when we gopt Ron Wolf and Ron Wolf went out and got Mike Holmgren and Brett Favre. How many years did Brett Favre lead us to the playoffs? How many NFC CHampionship games? How many Superbowls did we play in, win and or lose? None of those other quarterbacks got us close. Brett Favre put it all on the field for the fans and we are now perennial contenders year in and year out and it started with Brett Favre.

    Do fans have a right to tell a player he is done, his career is over just because his team is ready to move on without him? Hell no, and its pathetic and cowardly to even think that. he had a right to play somewhere if he wanted to, this is a business and that is how it works. The traitors are the hypocrites calling themselves fans who turned on a guy that took us to he promised land after decades of being losers year after year after year. Maybe we should just go back to losing you bunch of cry babies.

    You’re not Packer fans, your a bunch of sad sack losers who mouth off but I don’t see any of you walking in Brett Favre’s shoes, like you even could so shut the hell up.

    1. Phatgzus March 22, 2013

      McMahon, Brunell, and Detmer were all Favre’s backups, they were not starters during the Favre-Starr interim.

      That said, I agree with you with the utmost gusto, esp. paragraph four.

  19. Iltarion March 21, 2013

    Your version of events, of course, conveniently leave out the many lies told by one Brett Favre, his many fake “retirements” which were only meant to pave his way to the Vikings from the beginning, his trashing of this organization and its head office, and his betrayal of all TRUE Packer fans by WANTING to come back and beat us.

    I wonder why you would miss all that. No, actually, I already know. Because you are a Brett Favre fan, not a Packer fan.

    Notice that even though Packer Nation gave much more to Brett’s family than we ever did to Jennings’ or Al Harris’ or Aaron Kampman’s, there was no ad in any paper to thank the fans after Brett left. No, because if he would have taken out an ad, it likely would have been a picture of a giant middle finger to the fans.

  20. elafave March 25, 2013

    Lambeau’s family FORGAVE the PACKERS and ALLOWED them to re-name New City Stadium Lambeau Field. Lombardi didn’t want Curly’s name anywhere near 1265.

    Just sayin’.