Several players were reportedly asked about their sexuality at the NFL scouting combine this week.
No one came out and said, “Hey, so, do you smoke cock?” That was the implication, however. Colorado tight end Nick Kasa was the first player to admit that a team asked him the following questions:
Hmmm… I wonder what you’re getting at?
Since Kasa’s admission, Michigan receiver Denard Robinson and Michigan State running back Le’Veon Bell also said they were asked the same questions.
Obviously, the whole problem here is one Manti Te’o, who is either 1. one of the biggest idiots on the face of the planet, 2. a liar who perpetrated a story about a fake, dead girlfriend for personal gain, or… brace yourself for this one… 3. a man who knowingly had a relationship with another man.
OH MY FUCKING GOD! SOMEONE WHO PLAYS IN THE NFL MIGHT BE GAY! WHATEVER WILL WE DO?!
Someone’s solution to this perceived issue is to keep players who might like guys out of their locker room, which is not only discriminatory, but also totally illegal.
Did Alabama get an NFL franchise when we weren’t looking? Oh, wait… the Vikings… nevermind.
Then again, this could just have been someone’s way of trolling for ass. Wonder who that might have been.
I cant believe this is still an issue in 2013. That being said it took a bunch of years to get over black players and no one will every accept former viking douchebags into their locker rooms.
I always laugh at this Trestman photo……He looks like the poster child for aids…Not the leader of men.
Lol..yah, he is very sticky looking. Like he is anemic or maybe a vampire…..idk.
Lol..I meant sickly…
That is a hilarious photo and caption.
This is an interesting issue.
Obviously, an employer asking about one’s sexuality is illegal.
However, considering everything else the teams try to learn about these players before investing millions of dollars in them, is it unreasonable to ask about something as monumental as sexual preference?
In this case, I do think it would affect the desirability of a player, and thus his draft value.
When I go to work in my accounting office, it makes zero difference if the guy next to me is as gay as The Village People. In fact, all the better because at least then he has good personal hygiene and doesn’t want to talk about NASCAR all day.
On the other hand, on a football team, you room with each other, shower with each other, etc… It is a totally different ball game, and we’d already had a number of players come out and say they would NOT welcome a gay team mate.
Now, I can stand on a soap box right next to Monty and say this is all BS, but it doesn’t change the facts as they are. Inserting a gay player into your locker room is a risk, and anyone knowing anything about stock knows that risk affects value.
And yet, we are going to tell teams that they can’t ask. Huh…
As much as I agree with your ethical/moral stance on sexual orientation, the simple fact is that it is a Federal law that potential employers can not discriminate based on sexual orientation, by extension they can not ask questions pertaining to one’s orientation.
I’m sure there are players in the NFL who are racist, however, it is illegal to not hire an individual based on race because an individual in your organization has an issue with it. It is an analogous situation, except race is generally more evident.
Good post, PhatJC.
There is no debate it is against federal law, and therefore the NFL is obligated to look into it. As Kevin Bacon once said, these are the facts and they are indisputable.
It is analogous in the fact that in the 60’s when Vince Lombardi was ahead of the curve on drafting black players that it was conceivable there were racist players in his locker room.
However, it is NOT analogous in that Vince knew what he was getting into BEFORE he drafted the player. In this situation, by not allowing teams to even ask, GM’s aren’t allowed to know something that has the potential to affect their locker room ahead of time.
“…By not allowing teams to even ask, GM’s aren’t allowed to know something that has the potential to affect their locker room ahead of time.”
I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with you. You certainly post some valid potential concerns of future teammates and private employers; however, I think such an issue ultimately reduces to personality, not orientation.
I can certainly understand why players would be reluctant to shower with a gay/bisexual teammate, however the privileges of the many do not supersede the right of the few to obtain gainful employment.
Female reporters (and perhaps gay male reporters) are allowed in the locker room while players are undressing for interviews, there have been some issues with players purportedly harassing reporters, although I cannot be certain it was under these exact post-game circumstances (the Jets have had multiple separate events of such a nature).
Ultimately, I believe this boils down to a character issue (a nuanced one to be sure, but a character issue nonetheless). If the individual is immoral/immature/stupid enough to harass a fellow teammate, then it should be dealt with by the organization at that time (likely after said player gets the eternal living Jesus knocked out of him). Yes the player may get terminated, costing a team a draft pick, but that is an issue that can arise from an individual committing any other crime (e.g. drug possession/use, domestic abuse, DUI, etc.); thus a personality, not an orientation issue.
BTW, nice quote.
This would make a great indepth article. Interesting conversation.
so, are you saying that if a dude in the place you work at openly says he doesn’t like black people then your company is allowed not to hire any black guy just because someone in the office is a total moron?
Of course not.
In fact, that has no analogous connection to what I am saying at all.
I think if some player looks like a girl you they should ask if they have a vag just in case…ha really Iltarion?
You are going with “they shower together” as an excuse. That must be your fantasy. So you are saying when gays see another naked man it is all sexual. Like when a female doctors sees a male it is all sexual. Why are there still public gyms? oh my with all the gays running around. Come on that is stupid talk.
Real men are not scared of anyone who is not exactly like them weather in the shower or not. Being scared of gays in 1930’s talk. Wake up
I like chicks with dicks
Now this comment is just fun to rip on.
“some player looks like a girl you they (?) should ask if they have a vag”… Ah, they don’t have to ask. It is called a PHYSICAL.
“So you are saying when gays see another man naked it is all sexual..” Maybe you are different, but when I see a naked woman, some sexual thoughts typically slip in there.
“Like when a female doctor sees a male…” HAHAHA… So, all gays are doctors now. HAHAHAHA… man, that is funny shit.
“Public gyms…” I don’t know about you, but I don’t get naked or shower in public gyms. I go home for that.
“Real men are not scared of anyone who is not exactly like them…” Awesome. First of all, thanks for letting us know what “real men” are like. I am guessing you are Chuck Norris. Secondly, do you consider preferring a man’s ass over the female body being “not exactly” the same? Hahaha…
“Being scared of gays is 1930’s talk. Wake up.” No, apparently it is 2013 talk. If it is so outdated, then why can’t teams ask?
Good thing vijay doesn’t have to answer those questions under oath…. Creeeekkk. Closet door opening
I bet this guy is a cross dresser o the weekends. Him and Jay should hook up and go out!
Newsflash, most in the black community are at least wary of the so-called gay rights community. I can say from firsthand experience that I sympathaize with these sentiments that do not want gay men in the lockerroom. Some of the gyms here in NYC have had real problems with gay men trolling with sex. Equinox settled for a high five digit sum because a member complained about gay men masturbating or engaging in oral sex in plain view. A trainer told me how one guy was caught in the steam room fucking himself in the ass with a dildo while jerking off.
Consider the matter another way–would women want straight men in their locker room? Exactly.
This is very nearly the most asinine, out-right dumbshit amalgamation of letters ever composed and published on the god damn internet. Thanks for bringing us the news, you dolt. What’s this firsthand experience? You need firsthand experience to confirm that you have a given opinion? Or is this verbal diarrhea your way of trying to tell the world that one of those run amok gay rape orgies you people seem so worried about got a hold of you?
Furthermore, presenting anecdotes as evidence is faulty at best (really, are you ten years old or something?), and to fabricate the anecdotes on top of that is like forgetting to put on your pants before going out and trying to resolve the dilemma by eating your own underwear.
You unbelievable idiot.
Did I touch the nerve? How come California, irretrievably democratic, voted against the socalled “gay marriage” bill, hhmmm? It is because the democrat’s ethnic constitutiencies are not on board.
These are not just anecdotes. Equinox has made several settlemetns to members AND employees because of this stuff at select, certain locations here in the city. Google equinox and terms like settlement or lawsuit and locker room.
Oh and you never answered the rhetorical question. Would women want a coed locker room? No
“…Most in the black community are at least wary of the so-called gay rights community[.]”
1) Most? I find that hard to believe.
2) So-called gay community? Why are they a so-called community? They are no less a community than any ethnic, religious, political, or other group.
3) Of all the communities extant in the US, I would think the black community would understand the plight of oppression endured by the LGBT community.
Regardless, sexual orientation should not be a determinant in a team’s desire to draft a player; if such a situation as the gratuitous one you described, then it should be dealt with at that time. What such a situation boils down to is personality and respect for fellow players, not sexual orientation.
Who cares…..Teams will pay a lot of these players millions, i’d like to know what kind of person i’m getting for my money also.
Monte, one of the funnier articles you’ve had in awhile.