One thing that’s become clear since the Green Bay Packers released Charles Woodson is they don’t think he can play anymore.
The Packers made the move to gain $10 million in salary cap space, but they were obviously done with Woodson regardless of what his salary was.
Coach Mike McCarthy and general manager Ted Thompson met with Woodson Friday morning. At no time did they reach out to his agent, Carl Poston, and Poston was not at that meeting.
We suggested the Packers would renegotiate Woodson’s deal and bring him back at a lower salary. The fact that they didn’t even float the idea to Poston shows they have no interest in doing so.
The Press Gazette reported they didn’t bring up the subject to Woodson either.
“I know there’s a salary-cap issue because of the kind of money he was going to make this year,” Poston told the Press-Gazette “But I don’t know that they even – they didn’t talk to me at all, they just talked to Charles. Charles didn’t bring (a pay cut) up, so I have to think they didn’t mention it. I think they just felt they needed to go in a different direction.”
We know Woodson’s career is almost over. He’s 36, his skills have started to decline and he’s broken his collarbone twice in the past three seasons.
All that being said, it’s a little surprising the Packers weren’t interested in Woodson at a lower salary.
As for Charles, he plans on playing in 2013 and wants to join a Super Bowl contender. We’re sure there will be suitors.
Right now our money is on the New England Patriots.
The Universe loves irony. With Woodson’s role in The Tuck Rule debacle, I’d bet money on him winding up in NE. I wish him the best of luck; with the exception of Driver he’s been my favorite Packer of the modern era.
Wow, if this is true, I’m a little surprised.
Woods @ $10M – Way too much, I agree.
Woods @ $5-6M – That’s worth a one year deal.
$5-6mil is TOP money for a safety, and Wood wasn’t a top safety: two steps slow and prone to standing on sidelines, while brittle bones heal…
Just how is that “worth it?”
So let me get this straight Monty…..because the Packers didnt offer to re-work Woodson’s contract makes you think they didnt want him anymore?….WOW….Where would we be Monty if you weren’t around to do our thinking for us? Thanks for posting the obvious.
And thanks for being an asshole ^
I think it’s a great move by Packer management.
I’m waiting for more.
Certainly Hawk comes to mind.
I don’t know if TWilliams is still recovering from the shoulder problem, or the Collins injury has him playing scared — but I don’t like what I’ve seen of him lately. Plus, he’s gonna be 30 in less than a month. Think he’ll suddenly pack a wallop going into his 4th decade ??
Kuhn is also a good candidate: he’ll be 31 the week after Labor Day. 67yds rushing? 148 receiving? Two tackles? Pass-pro questionable on a team that gave up 51. 3rd-n-short=4th-n-punt. That’s amazing productivity for $2.5 mil/year.
And then there’s always the Mouth of the Takeover…
Exciting times ahead…
I want FinMe and Woods money to go to Jennings. Far more impactful player than anyone on the team save AR.
Jennings is gone. There is no Jennings. I could be Jennings and you wouldn’t even know it.
And really the way he’s turned his free agency into a media tour is starting to annoy me. I honestly believe his best years as a player are behind him. He wants to be an actor. He’s spending more time setting himself for life after football than on actual football and maybe that’s why he’s on the sideline a lot.
It is time.
I’m for getting rid of Tramon but not against him staying.
It would be ballsy for them to let him go but I feel he’s just not a guy you want in your locker room. He’s getting paid all this jack and then only plays well like….every third game maybe? How would you like to be a guy playing well and scrapping for a comparatively low salary and have that guy sitting across from you getting paid huge and then running out of the way the moment he sees AP with the ball?
To me it boils down to that. Is the shoulder issue a career injury? It’s been how many years with that excuse? If it is he’s never going to get over it and never be the player deserving of that money.
You can’t have a guy making big money and tanking plays. It leads to animosity in the room where you just can’t have that.
It would be ballsy…but if I’m the GM I make it clear that this type of player has no future in this organization. It can’t be tolerated.
I agree 100% with the release of Woodson and not just because of the money. He plays outside the system and puts himself above the team and has done this for several seasons. That attribute and the obvious inability of the Packers to keep his ego in check led to a Favre-esque situation where maybe Woodson simply couldn’t be told what to do anymore. Part of me thinks that physically he’ll be a year older next year, but the other bigger part sees Woodson using this as fuel to play one more good season for someone else…before waiting on his first ballot hall of fame nomination. This is a good time for Wood to go for both parties involved. Now it’s time for Mathews or Bishop to be the leader out there on defense. We need someone to take command of the ship.
Huh? Are you kidding me? Okay, w.t.f. Are you talking about? When has Woodson ever played outside the system? And when has he ever put his own needs above the teams…or made himself more important than the team..which is what Favre did…when? You are making assumptions that you have no knowledge of and no proof either…would be my guess.
Woodson Is well thought of by his teammates…especially by Rodgers. I am sure that if what you are implying were true…his teammates would want no part of him and would be happy about him leaving…but that is far from the case. He as always been an outstanding leader for this team….and he is one of the most humble and respected players I have ever witnessed. He is quick to give praise to his coaches and teammates…and I have never heard him say anything that would be construed as arrogant or haughty. My conclusion is that you are nothing more than a fool who wants a little bit of attention…but knows zero about football….lmao go do some research buddy….and if you have proof to back up your ridiculous comment…please post them. Signed…..”Whatever!”
Woodson is not a cancer or poison to the team.
In a way, he’s a victim of his own success in the film room.
He’s been very prone to learning, and banking on, a QB’s tendencies — often at the expense of the game plan (ie: staying on his man, covering his gap, staying in his zone).
When he took a chance and defied the game plan and it worked, it was called “instinctive.” When he chanced and lost, it was called “gambling.”
When he was a CB, and had more speed, he could sometimes erase a bad guess. Additionally, if he didn’t have the closing speed to cover up his error, he had the benefit of a safety, who had his back.
Now Woodson is the safety — he can’t gamble and lose, because no one is there to erase his mistake. Also, when he gambles and is out of place, he can’t cover up the mistakes of other teammates.
This topic has been discussed by beat writers, tv analysts, game critics, and others — where the hell have you been, Mr. WTF Whatever ???
Lmao….right here. Playing instinctively and making adjustments when called for are traits I would love to see in my players if I were a coach….sure, it may not always work out to your advantage. But, I do not see that as “playing outside the system” …not at all. If you cannot be flexible as a player in the NFL…I don’t think you will be successful. Woodson is a great player because of those natural, God given instincts that he possesses. I would not refer to them as being a detriment to the team….Hombre’s comment implies that Woodson felt he was above the team…and could therefore do his own thing….I don’t believe that for a second. And I don’t believe that is why he was released…he was released for obvious reasons…cap space, and his age catching up with him…he is now injury prone and cannot play up to the Packers standards. Okay, smart ass?
Oh..one more thing…I am NOT a Mr.!
I’ll take your questions one at a time.
1. Huh?—-Go back and read it again if you didn’t get it the first time.
2. Are you kidding me?—Yeah…I am. Idiot. Great use of back to back rhetorical questions. See….overkill, redundancy, etc.
3. When has Woodson ever played outside the system?—
Wow…you’ve just successfully achieved zero credibility and not worthy of further response or reading. Thanks for putting in all that time though.
PS- Have a nice day.
Effin 100% on the money, hombre. And the hits keep on coming!
Don’t see CM3 as a leader. More of a wild man. Whether people like it or not, Hawk is probably the best leader the defense has right now. TT needs to draft a big time safety with some leadership skills.
And no bullshit as I write this I am watching Richard Sherman look into the NFL Network camera pitching Charles Woodson on joining the Seahawks.
Classic TT. Thinking he decides when players need to retire…I think, like Favre, he is one year off. Woodson is going to be a great addition and could cause us lots of problems. Bottom line I would rather play with him than against him. I can only say that for maybe 1 or 2 players on our defense.
He is not worth 10 million but his leadership alone is worth a million. would have like to seen at least at least an offer.
TT thinks of when guys need to retire…
Yeah, it is called his JOB.
TT wasn’t a year off with Brett. BRETT was two years off.
Ah, did you forget 2009 because I didn’t. Favre kicked the shit out of us, twice. If I recall correctly, as it pains me, he had 3 td’s in the first and 4 td’s in the second game with passer ratings of 135 and 128, respectively. Thank god he threw a pick; otherwise MN would have a ring. I’d say he was off.
You need to recall that TT was trained by Ron Wolf. Wolf’s mantra was that it’s better to let a player go a year too early, than a year too late. That appears to be EXACTLY what happened here.
TT must have skipped the course on how to sign a big name free agent. If memory serves me, Wolf signed the most sought after free-agent in NFL history, Reggie White. That signing made Green Bay a more desirable destination for future free agents, including Santana Dotson and Sean Jones.
TT didn’t make room to land Ed Reed (I actually think Woodson has more left then him), Doshan Goldson, etc…
That doesn’t mean he follows exactly in RW’s footsteps. Don’t you pick and choose what makes sense for you to do now, as compared to when you were learning your job?
In other words, because he follows that credo doesn’t mean he follows them all.
We are taking a safety with one of our first picks…lock it down. There’s a fairly deep and talented safety class including but not limited to: Kenny Vaccaro, Baccari Rambo, Eric Reid, Matt Elam, DJ Swearinger, Philip Thomas, Duke Williams, Jonathan Cyprien and a few others…
I like the sound of “Rambo” protecting the back end. Rd 2
I don’t shut up …ever….lol
I’m still waiting for the proof…evidence that Woodson puts himself above the team and that he has a giant ego? Even though I do agree that it is time for him to go…I do not agree with hombres assumptions.
How about you watch the games and quit being so damn emotional about the situation. I’ll tell you during our run up to the Super Bowl that Charles Woodson was the defensive MVP. He was one of the best players in the league for several years, earned his accolades, and is a first ballot Hall of Famer.
None of that changes the fact that for several years and at an increasing level, Charles Woodson has blown assignments and got torched doing it. Yes…when he made the play it was instinct but also an understanding of what he is capable as a player. Knowing to take those risk/reward scenarios and making the huge play or pick six. Now after several years of seeing him lose his speed and ability to make the play he once made….he keeps on doing it! That….is ego. Plain and simple. He will not conform to the team around him and be a cog in the machine even though we know he’ll be most effective doing that. Charles is too big for GB. Just like Favre was. Think back to earlier in the year when Woodson was supposedly healthy for weeks before we put him in. Why do you think that was? He can’t make the plays he used to make and he refuses to see it that way and that makes this an easy decision. He is no longer the representation of leadership we want in that room.
I am taking a fucking bow now.
Hahahahahahaha! So you are. Saying that because Woodson increasingly made the same mistakes as time went on…throughout the years….proves that he has an ego? First of all, I would say that 99.9% of ALL NFL football players “have an ego.” Some have huge egos! For example: Tom Brady, Drew Bees, Aaron Rodgers, Bret Favre, Payton Manning, Randy Moss, Adrian Peterson, D. Sanders…you get the picture? The truth is I wouldn’t want Woodson to be any other way than he already is. My point is, that his attitude and his ability to make a play when he needed to…when all others failed Woodson was often the guy who prevented the opposing team from scoring. Sure, I could go back and pst many, many times when he did that..but so can you. Even TT praised Woodson for being largely instrumental in the Packers 2010 SB win. I can’t believe that I am having to defend a payer of Woodsons caliber to another Packer fan.
Oops…I accidentally hit the submit button before I was done with my comment. So please ignore the typos…lol
I could not disagree more when you say that Woodson was intentionally blowing assignments and refusing to conform to the teams program. Just because that is how you interpret his play does not mean that you are seeing it correctly. Unless you have access to the teams locker and you are right there when plays are being called….hmm? I would be curious to know what Rodgers would say about your accusations made in regard to Woodson. He supports keeping Woodson..and believes it would be better for the team to do so. I have never known Rodgers to make statements like that about any player if he didn’t mean it. He obviously sees Woodsons worth. Look. As I have said before, I am not trying to say we should keep him on….I don’t…I just disagree with the premise of your comment. And IMO…you have not proven anything. So go ahead and take that bow…I will be there to boot your ass while you are bent over along with thousands of other Packer fans. Lmao
If you can’t back up your comments, don’t post them. If its just am opinion..then say so. My reading comprehension is perfectly in tact. But lucky for you…I can understand gibberish too. All I wanted was your source….too much to ask for? Lol