Now People Are Debunking that Aaron Rodgers is Not Clutch Theory

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Aaron Rodgers is not please

Aaron Rodgers is not please

We told you about Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers’ record in games decided by four or fewer points earlier in the week. It isn’t good — he’s 5-17.

What’s more depressing is the fact that both Tim Tebow and Mark Sanchez have more wins than Rodgers in the same scenario. That first guy hasn’t started a game since 2011 and probably never will again.

Well, the Press-Gazette’s Mike Vandermause pays no mind to those numbers. Because he needs to stroke the players that he covers so they’ll give him interviews.

Here’s his argument that Rodgers and coach Mike McCarthy are good in close games.

In games decided by 7 points or fewer, which by most anyone’s estimation would be considered close, McCarthy’s record climbs dramatically to 27-27, including 3-2 in the playoffs. Rodgers’ overall record in games decided by a touchdown or less jumps to 18-21, which includes a 3-1 mark in the postseason.

Okay, great. But 27-27 is a .500 record. That’s the definition of average.

And 18-21 is still a losing record. Would anyone label a guy with a losing record in games decided by seven or fewer points clutch? Well, probably no one except for Vandermause.

He goes on to point out Rodgers’ overall record and then blame the defense.

Rodgers has a 58-31 career record (.652) as a starter. There have been seven times during that span in which he helped put the Packers ahead in the fourth quarter, only to see the defense give up the lead and lose those games.

To me, that just epitomizes what we said earlier in the week. The Packers are dependent on getting out to a big early lead and then holding on. Because they can’t come from behind!

Look, no one is saying Rodgers is a bad quarterback. He’s a great quarterback. He’s not necessarily the guy you want at the helm for a potential fourth quarter game-winning drive, though.

That’s not to say he can’t quarterback the Packers. He’s just not Joe Montana when it comes to finishing the game.

Rodgers is always the first guy to say — even after a great game — there’s stuff I/we need to clean up. Rodgers needs to get better at finishing, as do the Packers as a whole.

And if Big Ted surrounded Rodgers with some better players — *cough* offensive line *cough* — maybe both he and McCarthy would have a better record of doing so.

About The Author

Monty McMahon is one of the founders of Total Packers. He is probably the most famous graduate of UW-Oshkosh next to Jim Gantner.

24 Comments on "Now People Are Debunking that Aaron Rodgers is Not Clutch Theory"

  1. Really?

    Sorry Monty, but what the fuck are you talking about. There’s no other QB I’d rather have than Rodgers in the 4th quarter.

    • Savage57

      With apologies to John McEnroe, “you cannot be serious!”

      Forget about Elway, Montana. Never mind Brady or Peyton Manning. Just let me homer up and throw AR’s name in the hat, ‘cuz he plays for the Packers.

      The guy’s a stone-cold front runner. Comebacks, not so much.

  2. pf4l

    If Rodgers had a decent defense and O line to work with, sans the 2010 season. I’d argue Rodgers winning percentage to be about .750…..Think of something of substance to write about, move on already.

  3. Leon

    McCarthy’s career win/loss as HC is 81–44.

    Rodgers as a starter is 58–31.

    And you’re still not getting near the hot dog buffet table in the Lambeau Field press box.

    Boo fuckin’ hoo.

  4. the real russ letlow

    you can manipulate statistics and polls and come up with many scenarios. I like our QB, and wouldn’t trade him for any active QB in the league.

  5. FITZCORE1252

    If only Ted would’ve spent 2 of our last 4 first round picks on O-lineman… Think of what could be. But no, Teddy hates O-lineman and wants to get #12 killed, I mean, it’s obvious.

  6. Doug

    I would be curious to know how many games we were scored on in the fourth quarter, or were up (largely because of AARod) and the D gave up the lead on a late score to force the need to try to “come from behind”. This whole situation is akin to a basketball team consistently being up 1 and fouling with under 10 seconds, and then looking at their star player when they suddenly need a hoop to win going “what the fuck man?!”…when he can’t consistently hit the game winning shot with less than 10 to go. It’s bullshit.

    If we’re pointing fingers at anyone on this team over the last 6-7 year, the absolute last place they should be pointing is AARod. Without him, this team is lucky to be .500 every year. Not a fact, but I think most would agree.

  7. SA packerfan

    Lets get real, do any of you really have confidence when we are in the 4th quarter of a close game that we have the game in hand? Hell no you don’t.

    For me it is not ARod alone but the whole setup of which ARod is a player coach. I don’t think his playing is bad but whatever is happening in these games he is part of the problem. The team just loses fire and momentum like crazy in the 4th. Then they hold on for dear life.

    We are a winning team and Arod is awesome but to make a Superbowl run you must aggressively put away teams. Be realistic and know there is always room for improvement.

  8. PF4L

    Rodgers isn’t clutch…blah blah blah…Yet, most everyone of the other 31 teams in the NFL, would love to have him on their team. STFU about Rodgers already, and realize how lucky we are to have him. Rodgers has 1 bad area, 1 bad game and gets railed. Yet TT can make errors upon errors upon errors. How about we see an article about TT and all the weak area’s on this team that he cant fix, and all the wasted high draft picks? Or how about an article about McCarthys boneheaded play calling and bad decision making? Or maybe how James Campen and Shawn Slocum and Dom Capers are still employed?….Oh, I know why..Because we won a SB in 2010…I forgot.

  9. tedtomato

    Maybe if ted wouldve gotten a couple of decent safeties..and replace that shitbag williams with a guy that actually covers the receiver..and not that 10 yard cushion shit. Why not draft some of these big offensive linemen from the badgers..then maybe running game could be consistent..i dont get teds contempt for that program..at least those players can read!

  10. Deepsky

    I am so tired of this matra that Rodgers isn’t clutch.

    First, in the 4th quarter, he throw almost three times as many TDs as INTs.

    Second, when playing from behind, he throws three times as many TDs than INTs. Compare that to Favre, who threw almost as many INTs as TDs when playing from behind.

    Third, look at the individual games. You’ll find a lot of games, like the Seattle playoff game, where Favre gets the 4th quarter comeback victory even though it was Al Harris who intercepted the ball for a TD to win the game.

    Third, I can remember MANY games where Rodgers scored once or twice late in games, only to have the defense give up some lucky pass. Like the Fail-Mary game, Rodgers drives the Packers down to go ahead in the 4th quarter, only to let the defense lose the game with a 46 seconds drive for the winning score.

    Fact is, Rodgers almost never gets help from the defense and that more than anything is required to win late in games.

  11. Pack attack

    Rodgers doesn’t throw picks but takes the sack instead. He is always in the top 5 in sacks and has lead the league twice. And this is with multiple offensive lines so spare me the shitty o-line argument, Rodgers is the constant.

  12. PACKATTACKINMPLS

    Not to sound negative but the Packers are going to get THROTTLED on Sunday.
    They dont have the speed to match even half of the other teams in this league…
    There are to many things that need to be fixed with this team…O line….Secondary…Running game…..Passing game…….Coaching…..Injuries….
    I had this team going 11-5 this year now 8-8 if that. They will be in the tank with the Queens this year….Dont get me wrong IM 110% commited to the Green and Gold however reality is reality….I know its hard for some of you to hear that….Hey put it this way just deal with it less stress on Sundays….Matter of fact think how much shit you can get done without pounding a 12 pack and watching the Pack take a beating..
    IM still going to Lambeau on Sunday to watch the game and spend a ton of money on beer and listen to my wife bitch at me for bitching about the Packers playing another shitty game..Should be a GREAT DRIVE HOME!!
    GO PACK GO!!!!
    DONT FUCK THIS GAME UP!!!

    • Shawn iltarion

      I have seen the Lions play every week, and I continue to be unimpressed. They are soft on the back end, like usual. Stafford is inaccurate as hell, and they still make loads of stupid mistakes.

      Yeah, Bush has helped their offense, no doubt, but their defense is still their problem. The Packers should light them up.

      One thing I will say about the Lions is that they have played well at Lambeau in the last 3 seasons. You know that they WANT to end that streak there.

  13. valpoPackers


    PACKATTACKINMPLS:

    Not to sound negative but the Packers are going to get THROTTLED on Sunday.
    They dont have the speed to match even half of the other teams in this league…
    There are to many things that need to be fixed with this team…O line….Secondary…Running game…..Passing game…….Coaching…..Injuries….
    I had this team going 11-5 this year now 8-8 if that. They will be in the tank with the Queens this year….Dont get me wrong IM 110% commited to the Green and Gold however reality is reality….I know its hard for some of you to hear that….Hey put it this way just deal with it less stress on Sundays….Matter of fact think how much shit you can get done without pounding a 12 pack and watching the Pack take a beating..
    IM still going to Lambeau on Sunday to watch the game and spend a ton of money on beer and listen to my wife bitch at me for bitching about the Packers playing another shitty game..Should be a GREAT DRIVE HOME!!
    GO PACK GO!!!!
    DONT FUCK THIS GAME UP!!!

    Mike McCarthy has only lost once after a bye week – in 2008. Since the Matt Flynn game in New England, the Packers haven’t lost back-to-back games. Saying the Packers will get THROTTLED in Green Bay, a place the Lions haven’t won since 1991 is a pretty stupid prediction.

  14. Shawn iltarion

    I saw Matt Ryan and his 22 comeback wins last night, and I’d take A-Rodge over Ryan any day of the frickin week.

    If you think of A-Rodge’s all around game, same as McCarthy’s, it lends itself more to holding a lead than coming from behind.

    Regardless, as pointed out above, I believe that if you look at all these close games on a game-by-game basis, you’ll find that the real problem during McCarthy and Rodgers’ tenure has been the defense’s inability to hold a lead.

    We have even seen it already this season.

  15. Don Q

    There’s nothing guage the Lions from. They beat the Queens and Bears at home, sqeaked one out against the Redskins and lost to the shitty Cardinals. The Packers won’t get throttled unless they turn the ball over like they did in Cincy.

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